Matt Slick Live

The following program is recorded content created by the Truth Network. It's Matt Slick live. Matt is the founder and president of the Christian Apologetics Research Ministry, found online at KARM.org. When you have questions about Bible doctrines, turn to Matt Slick live. Francis, taking your calls and responding to your questions at 877-207-2276. Here's Matt Slick.

Welcome to the show. It's me, Matt Slick. You're listening to Matt Slick live, and as usual, if you want to give me a call, all you have to do is dial 877-207-2276. Why don't you give me a call?

Want to hear from you? And we can talk. And also, if you are so inclined, you can send me an email to do that.

Just send it to info at KARM.org, info at KARM.org, and put in the subject line, radio comment, radio question, and we can blab. It's easy to do. All right. Hope you all had a good Memorial Day.

And I did. It was nice, you know, not having to do a radio for one extra day of the week. Just being able to relax a little. I enjoy the radio, though. I do. I like doing it. It's a lot of fun. I've been doing it for over 20 years now.

So, hey, look, like I said, if you want to give me a call, 877-207-2276. Now, Friday, I'm going to be in a debate with a Mormon down in Ogden, Utah. And if any of you are interested in attending, it's from 4 to 6 p.m. at Weber State University, the Wildcat Theater. And if you want the information on how to get to it and all the details and stuff like that, it is easy. All you have to do is just go to KARM.org, C-A-R-M dot O-R-G forward slash Debates, Debates, D-E-B-A-T-E-S. Just hit Enter. And what you'll see is a page comes up, and it'll say Upcoming Debates there. And just click on it. And everything you need is right there.

All the information. There we go. All right. There we go. And so you can do that. And it's all there.

And if you have any comments or questions, you can call 801-645-7433. That's Russ East. He's a great guy. I've met him a few times. He runs the radio station stuff down there. He really is. He's a good guy.

A humble man, loves the Lord. And also, some of us, we're just going to see what's going to happen. They're going to go out to get something to eat afterwards.

There's a restaurant across the street or something like that. And so if any of you want to join, you can do that. It's going to be fun.

Not a big deal. So if you want to do that, if you like that idea, you can join in. We don't know how it's going to work, but we'll just do that. All right.

So, excuse me, if you want to give me a call, 877-207-2276. I'm debating the Mormon on does the Bible teach salvation by grace or by works? And of course, it's by grace. Faith. Actually, faith alone in Christ alone. You can't add any works to salvation, ladies and gentlemen. I'm going to just say this right now. If any of you out there say, well, you know, I believe in Jesus, but I have to do good works.

He's got to know I'm serious. This is how you have to add to it. Then you're not a Christian. You're believing a false gospel. Flat out.

This is how serious this is. The devil, what he wants you to do is insult the blood of Christ by saying that he didn't do enough and you have to add something to it. You're sincere.

You're good, but you can add what he did. That's how you prove that you're really his and that by it you can keep yourself right with God. This is just arrogant foolishness. It's demonic doctrine. Flat out. I'm not pulling any punches on this.

It's the truth. You have to understand that you cannot be saved by grace through faith and anything you do. Your baptism, your church membership, your good works, you're going to see a good movie, not going to see a bad movie, your cussing, not cussing, whatever it might be. You think you've got to do, not do, whatever it is. You do not add to your salvation, keep your salvation, maintain your salvation, attain salvation through faith, baptism, and the observance of the commandments as paragraph 2068 in the Catechism of the Catholic Church erroneously, heretically teaches.

In the Book of Mormon, 2 Nephi 25, 23, you're saved by grace through faith after all you can do. Wow. Pat yourself on the back. So this is the kind of stuff that is demonic doctrine.

I'm sorry, I've got to just say it flat out. It is demonic doctrine because it's not from God. Look, let me show you something here.

This is really simple. I'm going to go to Matthew 13. And you've got to understand, this is what the Bible is teaching. Matthew 13 around verse 30.

Okay. And this is where Jesus tells the parable of the wheat and the tares. The wheat and the tares. And then he goes on to verse 40 and he starts, about 30 actually, he starts interpreting everything.

Well, I said 36, but in 38 he says, the field is the world and the good seed. These are the sons of the kingdom and the tares are the sons of the evil one. What Jesus is saying is there's just two groups of people. They're the sons of the kingdom, the sons of God, the Christians, and there's a son to the devil. You're either in one or the other.

That's all it is. You have to find out which one you're in. Now, if you've trusted in the true Christ, not the Christ of Mormonism or the false gospel of Roman Catholicism, recent orthodoxy, or the heresy of Islam, or the false teaching of Christian science, or Christadelphianism, or the Jehovah's Witness stuff, or the Seventh-day Adventist, you have to believe in the true Christ, and that's the second person of the Trinity. The Trinity is one God in three distinct, simultaneous, co-eternal persons. One God, not three Gods.

Not one office with three officers and things like that. Not one person who took three forms. That's all heresy. One God in three distinct, simultaneous persons. Let me tell you, in all of theology and all the stuff that I've studied, that I've been studying for 44 years, I have never come across anything that approaches the doctrine of the Trinity. It is a unique doctrine found only in Christianity. The true doctrine of one God in three persons, not three Gods as Mormonism teaches, or not a God who takes different forms as United Pentecostal and oneness theology teaches, and not just one person as one God as the Jehovah's Witnesses, Islam, and the Christadelphians teach.

No, no, no, no. And not one of many Gods. The Mormon teaches many, many Gods. So, no, there's only one God in all existence, in all place, in all time. The one God exists as a Trinity, which means the one being is three distinct, simultaneous, co-eternal persons.

Now, I've taught on this before, and I can teach on it some more, but that's where it's at right now. So, you either affirm all of that stuff, maybe you're learning, you haven't figured it out yet, that's okay, but you affirm that stuff or you don't. And if you don't, you don't affirm that stuff, that one God in three distinct, simultaneous persons, just one being, one God in all existence, not many Gods, the only servant who worshiped one, not one God in one person who changed different forms or whatever. If you don't believe in the true doctrine of the Trinity, you're a child of the devil.

Okay, that's just what the Bible says, okay? You've got to have the true and living God. You can't believe in something that you want to believe in because you feel that it's okay. You see, a lot of people say, I want to make theology out of what I feel, because the Holy Spirit, he understands my heart, my sincerity. And you see, because God's so good that what he will do is he will not allow me to be deceived because of the goodness of my heart. You see, I'm sincere and I don't want to be deceived, so that's why God's going to tell me and that's why I know the feeling that I have, the testimony that I have. Oh, it's from God because it's based on my sincerity and God won't let me be deceived, right?

Wrong. Because as soon as you start saying anything like God won't deceive me because of my sincerity, that's foolishness, it's arrogance. If you're saying, God, he is obligated one form or another to tell me the truth because of the goodness in my heart. I'm going to pat myself on the back, hold on.

Here we go. You see, look, because of my sincerity, because of my heart, because of my goodness, when I talk to the true God, whoever he is, he will let me know. And then the confirmation that he's let me know is that feeling I get.

You see how superfluous this is, how superficial it is, how dark it is? Instead of submitting to the word of God, the glory of God, it's submitting God to your feelings. And this is the formula for deception. So there's two kinds of people, sons of the kingdom and sons of the evil one.

Which one are you? Do you add works to salvation? Do you say the blood of Christ, God in flesh, is just mostly sufficient to be able to save me, to be able to redeem me?

The faith in Christ that I have is just mostly able to do what I need to be saved because I have to add a little bit of works. I have to add a little bit of goodness. I've got to do the good things. You can't do bad things, man.

I can be saved. You've got to do good things. Well, I didn't say you do bad things, and it's okay. I said the bad things are because of your sin. The good things are because of God's grace in you. But that's the result of salvation, the good things. It doesn't contribute to your salvation. You don't walk up to the cross of Christ and take a list of your accomplishments and then nail it to the cross. You say, God, you will accept me because of what Jesus is doing right here on the cross and see this list of things I've got. Yeah, mostly Jesus did what was right. Mostly what he did was sufficient.

Mostly. But you see, I've got to add to it. That's why we're saved by grace through faith after all you can do. Second Nephi 25, 23. That's a false gospel. And the false gospel emanates out of the false God.

All Satan has to do is get you to believe in something false. You see, faith is only as good as who you put it in. Who do you put your faith in? Where do you put your faith in? Do you put your faith in Mary? Oh, I can tell you, I see so many memes on Facebook where Mary comes up and then these foolish, lost people. I'm not mocking them.

My heart breaks for them. They put their devotion and their trust in the hands of Mary. To you we look. To you do we reside. We put our faith and trust in you, Mary, who will deliver us.

I actually say things like this in these memes. And I write in, stop the idolatry. See, Satan wants you to feel good.

He wants you to feel like you're doing what's right. He wants you to feel that you've touched the true and living God and now you're serving, well, the creature. The creature is someone like Mary. Or the creature is someone like Elohim in Mormonism.

Who? An exalted man from another world. He's a creature. And in Mormonism, I mean, it's going to be in the Bible, it says that what happens is that they gave up the image of the true God, the glory of the true God, and exchanged it for the image of an incorruptible man. See, in Mormonism, God's a man. He could have been a sinner on another planet.

And that's what they call God. Is he infinite? No. Is he learning? Yes. Is he pure? No.

Why? Because he was a sinner on another planet as a goddess wife. This is man-made religion, serving and worshiping the creature rather than the creator who suffered over all things. You see, you could have all the faith you want. You can put it in Mary, you can put it in Joseph Smith, you can put it in the God of Mormonism, you can put it in the God of Islam, Allah.

You can put it in all the faith you want. So what? See, if you walk up to a bridge, and this bridge is just ready to just... If a bird walked across it, it would crumble. This bridge is in bad shape. But you don't know it. And you have faith in that bridge. You have faith.

Why? Because you've walked across it before and it's been fine. It's worked for you. It feels good when you walk over that bridge. But you don't know. I think it's crumbling because it's not a true representation of strength and righteousness. And so if you have all the faith, that bridge is going to help you and you step on it and it crumbles. Faith is only as good as what you put it in. You put in the false God of Mormonism, the false gospel of Catholicism, the false God of Islam, you're lost. You see, faith is only as good as who you put it in. This is why theology is so important. Theology, not your feelings.

God's word, not your own. One or the other, which are you? The son of the kingdom or the son of the evil one?

Or the daughter of the kingdom or the daughter of the evil one? Hey folks, we'll be right back after these messages. It's Matt Slick live, taking your calls at 877-207-2276.

Here's Matt Slick. All right, everyone, welcome back to the show. If you want to give me a call, all you have to do is dial 877-207-2276.

You can also email me, info at karm.org, info at karm.org, and just put in there the subject line radio question, radio comment, and we often get to them. So let's get to Buskman from Dayton, Ohio. Buskman, welcome. You're on the air. Hey, happy post-memorial day there, Mr. Slick. Did you enjoy your weekend, sir?

Yes, I did. I had a good workout. What else did I do? Bothered my wife. That's always productive.

I think it's nice to watch on TV. I'm good at all of them. Wow. I'm good at all of them. My wife can testify.

Sounds like it. I'm good at being irritating. I'm just letting you know what it is. So I know what to expect when you come to Dayton. I'm sorry, what? So I know what to expect from you when you come to Dayton. Okay, I've got to make sure he's got a comfortable couch.

That's right. And I need to be obstreperous. It's one of the ways of leaving my mark where I go.

I want people to, they're shaking their head, rubbing their forehead. Hey, good. We had a good time, didn't we? Yeah, okay.

It's a lot of fun. Question for you, brother. Put your pastor hat back on. Put your pastor hat back on.

Okay. Someone, say like myself, who is tired of the public school system with their indoctrination, especially on the sexual thing. I mean, that's actually happening in my area of Ohio. And I've been to the school board meetings and to voice my concerns. I even asked the school board members, including my kids and superintendent, Matt, if you'd like to talk to me about a relationship with Jesus Christ, please see me after the meeting.

I'll be out in the hallway. Obviously, none did. Well, I shouldn't say obviously. They're not being a little too far, but they're breaking Ohio's sex offender laws in some of these libraries and even the schools. I've gotten a hold of some of the curriculum, Matt, and it's extremely pornographic. It is in cartoon form. I mean, it's not actual photographs of male and female anatomy. But it is extremely graphic, sir. So I'm wondering if I walked into your church near the pastor and I said, hey, Pastor Matt, my name's Boston.

I'm really concerned and really being affected by my school system, allowing this porn in the schools. Would you help me with finances to sue them? I've got the attorney ready to go.

I've got the Ohio revised code already worked out. Is that something that you would do, Matt? If we had the funds and the eldership agreed because we have to do something by the eldership, it's not dictatorship. But, yeah, I think that Christian would need to sue the crud out of people all over the place. And I can't say what else I think should be done. And that's the reason I asked you personally, Pastor Matt.

I'm going to put you back there because you were in those office meetings with your elder boards, with your finance committees and such. And I'm thinking if the senior pastor, Pastor Matt Slick, says, hey, ladies and gentlemen of the board and of our finance committee, I'd like to go ahead and propose this be an actual event that we could do for our local community. Because I thought about this. I thought about this, Matt. I thought, you know, what would it be like if Mr. and Mrs. Smith moves into your community and they're not believers yet? And they put little Billy and Susie in the public schools and all of a sudden they find out, you know, Mr. Smith finds out that Billy and Susie is being given these pornographic books.

And I'm not kidding you, Matt. They're young. They're young age of the school.

I know. And they come back and said, we've got to do something. Then all of a sudden these church people show up to the school board meeting. And Mr. Smith finds out that these church people came in there and said, if you put this in our schools again, we are suing you under 2907 point, you know, and those are the sex offender laws category here in Ohio. It's 2907.

So if all any of your listeners are in Ohio, go to our Ohio advice code and just punch it in your search bar 2907. And there's all kinds of stuff in there. So I'm just wondering if that happened and the church people sued the parents off, just as you said, of this local school and they removed all that evil. What would that say to Mr. Smith as a non-believer who did not want their child exposed to this stuff? To me, if I was that unbeliever, Matt, I would say, oh, my goodness, I am so glad we moved here and thank God for these church people. Thank God for these church people. And just putting myself back in my own Christian days, Matt, I'd be like, I need to go talk to these church people and thank them if nothing else, Matt.

Just go and say thanks. You know, you've really changed my mind on what I thought Christians are. Does that make sense, Matt? Yes, we shouldn't do it for that reason. But it's one of the benefits. But we need to sue them.

Absolutely. Individuals need to be sued. The school boards need to be sued. It needs to be such that these, I don't even know what words to use to speak of the evil people who are wanting this kind of filth, smut to be taught to our children.

I'll tell you, as a parent, let's just say that angers me quite a bit. And I would have no problem just suing them into oblivion if I had the money and the resources. If I was a billionaire, I'd be saying, who wants to sue who? I will support you for sue that school district, that school district, that school district.

And I'd come on like a monkey in a cupcake, rip them up. We need to be done. The Christians need to come together. And I think churches ought to say, hey, we're going to have a sue that school district fund and everybody commits to it.

And you hire a good lawyer and you sue them. I can't say what else I want to say. I think we can bring a lot. Honestly, Matt, I think that's an awesome idea. So which is why I called you.

And I told you your strainer rather keep there. I said, I'm going to ask Matt to put his pastor hand on because I wanted I wanted Matt Slick to know some. I think there might even I would. Gosh, I would love to attend a church if there are a church out here in Ohio. I would love please call in to Matt Slick and say, hey, I'm one of them Boston.

That's got that going on. I mean, I live in the area. See the e-mailed e-mail.

We could we could forward the e-mails to someplace. But we have no organization. Look, I'm already working 60 hour weeks. I'm 67 years old. OK. And so I'm always working and working.

Don't have much to do. I need volunteers. A lot of help to do stuff like this. But we need an organization somehow or someone could put together some stuff.

Where you go in and you find people who have the like mind. And then I think we should do things like getting an organization together where ten dollars a month goes in. And it's for the purpose of suing school districts for this porn and this smut that's going into our children's minds and hearts. This is an attack from the evil one. And it I mean, if if if your neighbor was doing this with your children, he'd be arrested. If it's the neighbor. Come over here.

I'll read you these books. Absolutely. I mean, yeah. I know the school gets away with it. Why? Because Christians are permitting it. Don't permit it.

When when I went into my my children were in a public high school. OK. For a couple of years. And I'll tell you what happened.

We've got a break coming up here. What I did. I threatened them. And I'll tell you what I did. And it worked on.

Yeah. So hold on. OK, folks, we'll be right back after these messages.

If you've got more stories like this, call up 877-207-2276. Be right back. It's Matt Slick live taking your calls at 877-207-2276.

Here's Matt Slick. Welcome back to the show. Let's get back on with Buskman. All right. Well, there we go. Yes. You're there. Oh, you're right.

All right. This kind of stuff really makes me mad because it's the evil one working through his servants and he is corrupting our children to try to destroy their minds and condemn their souls to hell as they get addicted to porn. They get brainwashed into the alphabet mob mentality and they turn against the people of this country. They eventually will come against the Christians persecution.

This is what the ultimate goal is. And you mess with my children. You've got a problem. OK. And to this day, I can't watch any shows where children are injured. I don't watch it.

I just it's too precious now. So when I was in my daughter, one of my daughters was in high school. We found out. I'll give the short version that they were teaching this values clarification. And so I said, OK, I want to talk to the principal. And it was these morals for this and morals for that.

You can make up your own morals. This is stupidity. And so I had a principal meeting.

My wife and I with the principal. And I know what they're going to do. They're going to say, well, you know, we're trying this. And they give you these sentences that try and calm you.

Yeah, it's just a temporary thing. And we just do this because whatever. I just waited.

Whittledee was done with his stupid spiel of crap. And I said, look, I know what you're going to do. I said, you don't know what I do for a living.

Well, you got noise there. I said, you don't know what I do for a living. I said, I'm a researcher writer.

I have a radio show here in the valley. This is before I didn't. And I said, this is what I want to do. You either you either take my daughter out of these classes. She doesn't have to go in there.

I don't want her in there. I don't believe in this stuff. I know what you've done.

You tried to assuage me by giving me these certain senses. And I'm supposed to just kind of let it go. I'm not going to let it go. If you if you put her in this class, if you don't let her get out of this class because I want her out and I don't want to penalize for her grade or anything. If you don't do that, I'm going to mention you by name and the other people in the school by name over the radio and what's being done. I said, that's how it's going to go. And the guy stared at me and I said, I know what you're doing. I said, I can't say for everybody else with my daughter.

That's that's how it's going to be. And he said, OK. And he he just goes, OK, whatever you want. I said, I want her great suffering because of this. I don't want her in that class. I want to hear this.

She can leave and all this stuff. And he said, OK, because he knew I meant it and I would have. I would have said I went to the school on this date and talked to the principal.

Here's his name. This is what he said. This is what they're teaching my child.

This is what you're teaching your children to. And I said, I would have done it. And yes, I would have done it. And they sued me. I said, fine. Sue, let's go to court.

Let's tackle this. Well, it makes me mad. Well, that's what we mean, Matt. It's that kind of fight. I mean, there's a whole lot of talk.

I heard it in the school board meeting, sir. There's a lot of barking, barking, barking, but there's no biting going on at all. So they look at his parents like, yeah, we have to let you speak. We're not going to do anything about it. They don't care.

And they don't have any further to go. So, yeah, I know what I do, but I can't say it. I'm talking to my email. I would love to hear it. You have to be in my house with the phones off. Yeah, I don't.

I don't agree with that. I'm like, Christians, let's unite. Just as Matt says, let's unite. We'll find a way, whether it be a give, send, go account, something.

Whereas Christians can go in and, you know, like Matt says, get five bucks, 10 bucks, 20 bucks, 100 bucks and collect a fund. And then there's plenty of lawyers, but they're busy and we have to put them on retainer. Unless there's a dear brother out there or sister who would do it pro bono. We need an organization. We need something going. A suggestion I've got, and I don't have the wherewithal.

I don't know. I mean, I'm just some doofus named slick on the radio who talks about Jesus. But I'll tell you that we need to have a national organization where Christians and conservatives, whatever, they join up. They pay, say, $10 a month.

The funds go in for the purpose of lawsuits and protection. That's what it's for. I would give to that, Matt. As a Christian in Ohio, I would give to that. And even if it was just, you know, for a diverse all over the 50 states. It needs to be.

Yeah. It needs to be. And there needs to be people who are experts who can run this. There needs to be a website and a means of gathering funds and someone who's trustworthy to oversee the funds. And then you have contacts with lawyers. You have contacts with different people. Emails would come in. You have to have people who are going to work it and staff so the money would have to pay for them.

Because you've got to have people who work it. And then what you do is you arrange something like this. Like whatever month of the year, September, whatever it is. On September 1st, everybody with the last name starts with an A, the first Monday of that month.

You have it all scheduled out on a calendar. Everybody goes to the Capitol or to a relatively similar kind of thing. Because everybody can't be at a Capitol. The states are too big.

You're driving too far. You have Capitol or mayor's office, whatever. And you hold up signs. And you have a website, you know, give our country back or takeourcountryback.com. Whatever it is. I don't know. And you have something like this and you put the signs. We want our country back.

You know, stop with the crap. And everybody shows up very peaceful. They've already contacted the police. They've already got permits.

They've always got everything. They go out and they do this. And let's say on the first Monday, right?

And the second, on a Tuesday, whatever it is, the people with the last name, letter B, goes out. And you just inundate every place in the country like this. That's just the start.

And you have to be peaceful. I love that. Oh, it's a great idea. And if we did it for, you know, there's 26 letters and just say 21 days in a month. You just did it for a whole month. You did that or you spread it out the first week of each quarter.

Whatever. And you do this so thousands and thousands of people are showing up at these places all over the country. That's just a start. And you have people with cameras. And I can see retired people.

Yeah, it's just, yeah, there's so much. I can see retired people. Retired people, you know, the grandparents of the kids who's in public school, I think because they're retired, they have the time to go. I could see them, you know, really making an impact because they could stay there for hours while dad and mom, you know, take care of the home and dad works.

Yes. But we need some people who are intelligent, who are educated, who are capable, who are dedicated. And we are not going to get our country back by going to a school board meeting and whining and complaining. And then the school board goes, yes, yes, yes, yes. And then does nothing.

And they put corn into the brain. That's exactly right. So you sue them. That's what you got to do. You sue them. And you sue the individuals. You sue them. And you, I mean, you say, I'm suing you personally because you, whatever it is, you find the way the laws are and you sue them. And you say, I want a hundred thousand bucks or whatever the law would, not me, but you know, I want this. This is the thing that goes into this organizational group for more funding for more of this. Once it gets going, I'll tell you, people all over the country be thinking twice about it because they'll know.

The so-and-so organization, they're going to sue the bejeebers out of them. I think they should do something like this. Absolutely. Absolutely. Oh, what else are we going to do?

I love it. Oh, what else are we going to do, Matt? We're going to watch our kids, we're going to watch our kids get raped from the soul level out. If we don't stand up and do something like what you propose. Well, something, I mean, I'm on the radio and I'm trying and I'm on my website, you know, and doing what I can do.

I'm nobody. But there are people out there who have the ability, have connections, and they should do that. And if I was a national figure that had money coming in, you know, a couple million dollars, I'd be saying, we've got to get something going. Who's going to, we've got to hire somebody and they're going to take this and they're going to run with it. They're going to be in charge of it. And we fund it and we get it going so they can dedicate themselves to doing this because it'd be a lot of work.

And you know there's going to be counter lawsuits. And this is just what we have to do as Christians. But too many Christians, what they want to do is turn the other cheek because what they think that means is don't do anything. That's just an excuse for their laziness. That's all it is. It's an excuse to do nothing.

But, you know, we need to tie the $1,000 so we can get $10,000 back because we're children of the king. We deserve this and it's just that the children be abused spiritually and emotionally in these schools. They're not doing what they're supposed to be doing. It just makes me mad. This is one of the topics that gets me.

You know, it just gets me. Yeah, I talked to a para, like a para group, you know, not a church, but a Christian organization. And I talked to the leader himself. And he said, you need to just pray for those leaders and those trans people. I said, just pray? He said, yeah, you need to start praying for them. That's what Christians do.

You do. You pray. Jesus said, as you go out into the world, he said, do you have a sword? They said, no, we have two cloaks. He says, sell a cloak, buy a sword.

Jesus said, Luke 22, 36. See, when people say just pray, I'm not saying don't pray, but that to me is the lazy way out. Just pray.

That way I can do nothing. I can keep watching. I agree, sir.

That's what it is. All right. Got to go.

There's a break. Okay, buddy. Thanks, Matt. God bless you, sir. Okay.

Bye-bye. Hey, folks, we'll be right back after these messages. Please stay tuned. It's Matt Slick live, taking your calls at 877-207-2276.

Here's Matt Slick. All right, everybody, welcome back to the show. If you want, you can give me a call. All you have to do is dial 877-207-2276. I want to hear from you.

Give me a call, please. All right. Now, let's see. Let's see.

Let's see. Okay, we're looking at this, looking at that, trying to work on the sound things. Man, I tell you, I wish I had a sound expert who could come here and help me out. Okay, let's get on the air with Martin from Virginia. Martin, welcome. You're on the air, buddy. Hey, Matt. Hey, thanks for your ministry and all you do there.

Okay, sure. Hey, your previous caller had a question, and I think you even kind of alluded, sort of paralleled that, that you wish there was an organization that could stand up and sue a lot of these organizations, industries, school districts, et cetera. And there's exactly one that is doing that, and they're doing it quite successfully. They're very deep-pocketed. It's ALCJ.org, the J-Secular Law Group. They turned over that Colorado stupid ballot thing, and they helped with the abortion win in the Supreme Court. And recently, they had two big wins against the school district to stop the kid from handing out Easter eggs with a biblical phrase inside the Easter egg. The school just confiscated the eggs, so the parents called ALCJ.org, and they have all the resources online right there.

Right off their home page, you can download the form. I mean, you kind of have to show harm, but then you'll get in contact. They will contact you if you show valid harm, and then they will work with you and not charge you a dime. Good.

They need to be funded with millions and millions of dollars, and they need to hire more lawyers, and then they need to camp out suing the bejeebers out of people. We Christians have got to start becoming aggressive, not passive. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I'm telling you. You need to become passive. They will walk all over you.

That's how history is. Yes, I work with a federal organization, and we have some user groups that are very DEI-centric, but we don't have a Christian user group. And so I'm trying to get one organized. I'm getting the stiff arm, and ALCJ is saying, well, I've got to keep complying with what the company, what this federal organization, pseudo-federal organization states. But once they deny me, then if I'm doing everything by the book and by the rule, they're making stuff in. Okay, what happened? That noise coming in.

Boy, that's just weird. All of a sudden, a lot of static. Can you hear me? Okay. I can hear you, yeah. All right, dude, what that was.

So I'm sorry, I missed the last bit because I got distracted because of that static. Could you repeat that last statement? So this federal organization has several groups that are, a few of them are very DEI-centric. I'm not going to call them out specifically. But there's not a Christian one. And I'm not calling this group that I'm trying to form a Christian one.

It's an open faith, a foundational faith one. But I'm getting stiff-armed because my mission statement doesn't align. And I copied their mission statement. So that's the funny part.

So alcj.org will step in once they deny me if I'm following their rules specifically. Okay. Yeah. Well, a lot could be said.

We could have a lot of discussions about this kind of stuff. But I know what Christians can do if they decide to act like Christians and not like pre-tribulation rapture escapists who are not going to do anything and who don't want to get involved in the dirty work of evangelism and commitment to Christ. And I say that because it's true that a lot of Christians don't want to do anything that's going to be uncomfortable because they serve the blonde-haired, blue-eyed, Caucasian surfer Jesus who's dressed in a woman's nightgown. And they want him to comfort them. They want him to comfort them until they go to churches that comfort them because things are so bad. And they don't know what it means to fight the good fight. They don't know what it means to stand up against unrighteousness.

They don't know what it means to suffer for Christ's sake because we're so comfortable here in America. And so they need to study God's word and they need to follow to Christ. And he said, Jesus said, you've got to pick up your cross daily and follow after him.

And if you don't, you're not worthy of him. So that's the question I'm going to ask people. What are you willing to do? What are you willing to do? And most Christians I know are not willing to do much. Most Christians aren't.

It makes me mad. And that's why I kind of want to start this group, this work group, and open the door for those people that are maybe at a loss for trying to find a way. If this group is accepted, then the membership will grow, and I'm sure it will grow exponentially. And that is some kind of light that we can fight against that darkness. Well, we've got to do something.

We've got to keep fighting. But it just makes me mad. People just don't want to do anything.

They're just so stick and lazy. Yeah, I'm kind of glad. Some of these universities are turning away from that. MIT is taking out of their curriculum.

Taking one out. The DEI, the diversity curriculum, they've removed most all of it. And thank goodness MIT kind of...

I didn't look at their administration. I've got to believe that they're 100% not woke, and I don't know why they fought on to in the first place, but they're backing away from it full-time. Well, you know, yeah, yeah. I can't say too much. I wish I had my own show where I could just speak completely freely because there are certain things I can't say over the radio. And I get that. You know, it would be decent. But I get mad about that kind of stuff. I know. I hear you. I can hear it in your voice, and I think someday you might get triggered and tripped up, and then next thing I know, Charlie's running on the show.

Yeah. Well, I'm waiting to get arrested. I say things like the Biden crime family and that COVID was real, but the vaccines were harmful. You can't say that over the radio.

Not supposed to say stuff like that because it's not permitted. And they were harmful. I know the statistics.

And I can show you from the CDC website statistics. It's bad news. And so you're not supposed to say things like this because the left is in control. And the fact that our government has weaponized the DOJ, the IRS, the FBI against conservatives and this debacle that's going on with Trump right now, like him or not, they're trying whatever they can to stop him.

And I know that it's the child of the enemy who's working to try and stop him because if he wants America to be strong, but the enemy does not want America to be strong. As Christians, this is the ultimate thing people need to understand. They've got to stop going to these churches with women pastors and elders. They've got to stop going to these churches that teach Manby-Pamby theology. They've got to stop going to these churches that teach, oh, get raptured out of here, blonde hair, blood, Caucasian, surfer, Jesus, and he wants you to be healthy and wealthy.

Stop doing that kind of idiocy. Stop supporting churches that just teach man-centered hammock theology that's going to make you feel good. You've got to go to a church that says this is not easy. The Christian life is not easy. You're called to discipleship. You're called to make disciples. This is what it means to follow Jesus. He said follow me. Go to the cross.

That's what he says. Die to yourself daily. This is Christianity, but that's not what the Christians want here in America. They want the comfort theology. They want the comfort stuff.

Give me a breast to suck a lot because that's going to feed me. They want Christian milk. They don't want Christian meat. They want to be just diaper changed.

They want to be comforted and things like that. Well, that's not what's supposed to be in Christianity, but because we live in a culture that's so comfortable that what can happen is they're allowed to be comfortable and they're safe in the process, and they pray for more money, and they get it because they work harder in this country where you can do it, and they say, see, God's blessing me. They misinterpret actuality and what happens in their prayers with what is biblical, and so we become ineffective, and the fact that it's the case is because this country is in such bad shape.

We can take it back for the Lord Jesus Christ. If we were to be united, get on our knees first, start praying, asking God to work in all the pastors and start preaching biblical theology and start working with the elders and start preaching stuff. Get out of the bad churches. Let them die. Just let them die like Joel Osteen's church and the false teachers like Joyce Meyer. Just let them die on the vine. Prune them out. Get them out and start going to these churches and start tithing in these churches and start preaching good stuff. Reform theology and or good theology, the Trinity and justification by faith alone, getting out there, getting off your lazy rears and doing stuff, and being disciples of the Lord Jesus Christ, and you know what he said, if you're not willing to pick up your cross and follow after me, you're not worthy of me.

This is what Jesus calls people to do, and Christians don't want to do it in America because it's too difficult. They might suffer. I know what it means to suffer. I know what it means to be swatted. I know what it means to be threatened. I know what it means to have Satanists threatening to kill you and your family. I know what it means to be followed and have doors knocked on in the middle of the night. I know what it means.

I know how it is. I know what it means when they take your image, they take your words, they take them out of context, they try to make you look evil and stupid, and I know what it means. But this is what it means to follow Jesus Christ. We're going to do this as Christians. We can take the United States back within 10 years if we start doing it.

It'll take 40 to 60 because we've waited so long to do stuff. We've got to get the generations going, get the children being taught, and get them out of the public brainwashing schools. There's just so much we can do, but the Christians are so busy just waiting for the rapture to get out of here and make me feel good theology. It scares them. I'd love to go to a church and teach this and see what happens to the congregation.

They came out the door. As Christians, we got a lot lazy, and we let globalism creep in. I've got a friend who his church just split.

I think it's united. It was a Baptist, but they went down this United Methodist path. I press him all the time. He's my brother in Christ, and we talk about scripture almost every day.

I greet him with a God morning every day at work. But we've got some of these churches that are just flexing. They're giving up this globalism that is just eroding truth.

Look at this. America. I'm not happy with the pope. The pope is too globalist. We have so many things creeping into our churches that are like, it's not foundational.

It's not scriptural. It's a globalism that's creeping this world that is taking over slowly. That's right. Globalism, communism, Marxism, socialism.

Here's the thing. The United States is anti-Christ. It promotes homosexuality, the killing of the unborn, the woke idiocy, the brainwashing of the children, and pushing porn to the little ones, among other things. It is anti-Christ because it works against the churches, and it decries the things of Christ. So our country is anti-Christ. If the church is at peace with the country, then the church is apostate. If the church is apostate, then it will be lazy, because as long as it's comfortable and anti-Christ is allowing them to do whatever they want in their comfort zone, then that is a sign of the apostasy that's occurred in America. But we as Christians are called to move away from that apostasy and fight the enemy.

Jesus says in Matthew 16 and 18, the gates of hell will not prevail against the church. That means we go knock the gates down. We can do it, ladies and gentlemen, because we have Jesus as our king. Okay, here we go. We're out of time.

I've got to get going. Amen. Amen, Matt. All right, brother. All right, man, God bless.

Thanks for tripping me up. God bless. Let's make me go. All right. Okay.

Hey, folks, we're out of time. May the Lord bless you. Hey, question for you. Are you a child of the devil? Are you a child of God?

Are you in the anti-Christ church? How are you? What's your attitude? Do a self-check. We'll be right back. No, you won't. We'll be back tomorrow. Another program powered by the Truth Network.