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MSL- April 17, 2024-The Matt Slick Live -Live Broadcast of 04-17-2024- is a production of the Christian Apologetics Research Ministry -CARM-. Matt answers questions on topics like The Bible, Apologetics, Theology, World Religions, Atheism, and other issues- -You can also email questions to Matt using-, Put -Radio Show Question- in the Subject line- Answers will be discussed in a future show.-Topics Include---MSL- April 17, 2024--Does God Save All----History of Hell--Homosexuality in the Church--What Happens After Death----The Omnipotence of God--MSL- April 17, 2024

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So there's mentions of it in the Old Testament, obviously. Just read them. So there you go. Okay. All right. I got one more I just found in my notes that's a pretty good one, I think, if you want it. Sure. Sure. What is it? Okay.

So this one, I'm glad I found it because it's pretty good. So, the disciples, you know, prior to when they were with Jesus, let's say, you know, the Holy Spirit hadn't been given to dwell in people yet and the Day of Pentecost hadn't happened yet, yet they came to Christ. And so my question is, were they regenerate, even though the Holy Spirit hadn't been given?

I feel like they would kind of have to be, right? There's discussion about what regeneration is and it's the same thing as asking, was, like, David regenerate? Or Abraham? Now Abraham was justified by faith, so we want to say yes. There must have been some form of something related to regeneration that occurred to them in order for them to believe.

So if we take the New Testament revelation of regeneration and it's concomitant with faith and they had faith in the Old Testament, then we can imply that they were regenerate there. Okay? Okay, cool.

Well, yeah, that's all I got. Thank you very much. All right, big man. Thanks a lot, buddy.

All right, God bless. All right, so last night, you know, I'm on the internet a lot and, oh, if we have nobody waiting, if you want to give me a call 877-207-2276, I'd say email me, maybe you could email me, try email me at info at and if you have a radio comment or radio question and put in the subject line, put in radio comment or radio question and we'll see if we get them because we're having email problems for, just to let people know we're having email problems. So okay, so last night I met somebody in real life that I've met and encountered over the internet and so we were really surprised that he and I live in the same city. So, you know, on Discord, it's a chat system and I've been doing this for, you know, years and we get talking and he goes, no way, dude, I live in the same city. So we met up for, you know, a little cookie and then something at a place in Nampa, you know, cookies on the drink, that kind of thing. And so, no big deal and it was fine.

Alright, he's a great guy. Now, what's interesting is that before I got there, before I got there, what happened was I pull up in my car across the street, I stopped the car and I look out my parking, I look out my window and it said, Nazarene Church, right in front of me on the window, like an office building kind of a thing, Nazarene Church. I'm looking at it because to the left of it was a gay pride flag that was suspended inside the church. I'm like, what? What are they doing?

Are they supporting gay stuff, you know? And so I get out of the car and lo and behold, people exit that building right in front of me. I mean, the timing was just, it was like it was in a movie, you know? And I said, there's this guy and this girl, husband and wife, I guess. And I said, hi, did you just come out of that building, the church there? And he said, yeah. I said, you're Nazarenes? Yeah, yeah.

So the gay pride flag there, I'm curious, what's up with that? And I said, you guys support that? He said, yes, we do. And he got angry. And he says, because we love them.

Do you love them? And I'm like, dude, I just, I just asked, do you, do you support this? Right. And he got mad at me because he knew, you know, I'm just saying, because I said to him, homosexuality is a sin. And I'm just wondering why you guys would have that flag up in your thing, promoting homosexuality. And he, this is no lie. He, he gets close to me. He's not threatening or anything, but, and he, he says, homosexuality, do you know what the Greek word is for homosexual? And I said, yes, Arsenequitas. And it's in 1 Corinthians 6, 9. He didn't expect that, you know, he actually asked me, he goes, do you know, it's a challenge. Do you know what the Greek word is?

I go, yeah, Arsenequitas. And it's right there. And he, you know, he kind of stopped. Like he said, you know, what? He knows. And he said, well, well, the word, the word homosexual didn't occur until this, you know, the 1900s. I said, yeah, I know that. But the word, you know, the concept is, you know, and then he interrupted me. Right.

And he says, you're just not loving. And I said, yeah, I am. Yes, I am. Do you love them? I said, yeah.

Cause do you love me? I said, yeah. You know, I said, but it's a sin.

And they can't be Christians and continue in that sin. And he didn't like that. His wife, whoever it was, okay, time for us to leave. We got to leave. And he says, you're, he called me something like a bigot or a hypocrite or something unloving and all this stuff. And I'm like, man, you know. And so I'm walking, okay, so the conversation's over.

Cause he's walking away with the misses, I guess. And I'm walking across the street and it occurred to me and I just looked back at him and now there's about 40 feet between us. And he's looking at me as he's walking away and I point my finger at him. And I said, you are an apostasy. Your church is an apostate church. You need to repent.

You need to trust the Lord Jesus and believe what he says in the word. And he's staring at me and I kept my hand pointing at him as I walk it away. So then I kept going and I go, okay, fine, I'm done. So there you go. All right.

Causing problems. Matt slick, you know, but I told my wife this, right? I told her last night what happened. Guess what? You know? And she said, you know what the Greek word is? Yes, I do. And she laughed and she goes, how many, how many times?

How many people? He's going to ask a question or two. Yes, here it is. Here's where the verse is.

And it really caught him off guard as she got a big crack up thrill out of that. So I thought it was kind of funny. So there you go. And by the way, homosexuality is a sin and it needs to be repented of.

It doesn't mean we don't love them, but it does mean that it's something that is sinful and needs to be avoided from all people. All right. Hey, there you go.

We've got the break coming up. Give me a call. 877-207-2276. Be right back. It's Matt slick live taking your calls at 877-207-2276.

Here's Matt slick. All right. Welcome back. We're playing with the email thing and now it's acting differently. So if you email us and it doesn't quite work, you don't hear something back quickly.

That's why. Let's see. Let's get to Vivian from North Carolina. Vivian, welcome. You're on the air.

I thank you so much for taking my call. So I have a quick question about 1 Peter 3.19. Can you give a brief description of what that means? Which it talks about where Jesus preached to the spirit in how? Yes. So, um, they're just theories.

We don't know what the actual event is and people are, they put them together different ideas. So, uh, it does say enough as is related to this. It says in Ephesians four, it says to verse seven, to each one of us, grace is given according to the measure of Christ's gift. Therefore it says when he ascended on high, he led captive a host of captives and he gave gifts to men. Now this expression he ascended.

What does it mean? Except that he also descended into the lower parts of the earth. He who descended is himself ascended above all things. Okay, so, all right, so there's some information and it's related to the crucifixion. So when we go to 1 Peter 3 19 because the verse before for Christ also died for sins once for all the just for the unjust so that he might bring us to God, having been put to death in the flesh, but made alive in the spirit in which he also went and made proclamation. Now the spirits now in prison. So the word, uh, proclamation, uh, proclamation is from the Greek word kairoso and it means to proclaim generally to proclaim. It's not the preaching necessarily. So what one of the theories is that, uh, when he went and made proclamation to the spirits now in prison, who were once disobedient when the patience of God kept waiting in the days of Noah.

All right, so there's a lot going on here. So the days of Noah, it deals with the Nephilim. This is Genesis chapter six. Now I am of the opinion that the Nephilim of the offspring of the fallen angels and women, and this is what the Jews always taught. That's what the church taught until the fifth five hundreds.

And then it got attacked and they changed their view and adapted. But any rate, so that's what it was in Genesis six, nine, it says Noah was perfect in all his ancestry, his generations. So it looks like what was happening probably, not certainly, but probably those spirits, those false, whatever they are that were imprisoned at the flood and stuff when they were destroyed that they're held in bonds and that Christ went and basically made proclamation saying, this is who I am and this is what I've done.

And this is why you're in trouble. And so a related verse to this topic is just Jude six, an angel who did not keep their own domain, but abandoned their proper abode. He has kept an eternal bonds under darkness for the judgment of the great day, just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities of strange flesh.

So it's talking about the sexual perversions that went on then going on now in our country today in the world. So it looks like that that's what he did. He went and made proclamation.

So here's the general theory. He died. He went down into Hades, said to everybody, this is who I am.

This is what's going on while you guys are in trouble. And then one of the theory goes that he took the people who had died in faith but could not yet enter into heaven because the blood of Christ had not yet been offered for the cleansing that needed to be done. So they were in a holding place, which is representative of what Jesus says in Luke 16, nine through 14, excuse me, Luke 16, 19 through 31, excuse me, where it talks about Lazarus and the rich man and went to Hades and paradise. Paradise was Abraham's bosom where they went, where the good people went. So the theory is Jesus proclaimed to the bad, this is why you're in trouble, and took the good and ascended into heaven with them. That's the general theories when I lean towards myself. Okay. Okay. Well, that is a very good explanation.

The first that I have heard so far. So there are some people I believe that also think that it's to those, you know, who are dead in the sun, physically dead. And so those people are spirits, and they still have a chance to, you know, get into heaven, so to speak. No, no, it says in Hebrews 927, it's a point of undemended die once and then judgment. There is no afterlife second chance. No purgatory, no limbo.

No, that's it. Yeah, yeah, I agree. So you know what now that you're talking about death and all that we are talking about this and that I am just thinking of what are your thoughts about when somebody dies today and they are a Christian? Do they actually go to heaven and be Jesus? Because doesn't the Bible say that the dead in Christ shall rise at the time of the rapture.

So how does that make sense when somebody dies, and they meet Jesus, but then the dead in Christ rise again? Okay. Those are different. You know what I mean?

Yes, I do. So the second Corinthians five eight says it's better to die and depart and be at home with the Lord. So when someone, a Christian dies, it's an annihilationism and soul sleep errors.

They're errors. Say that you don't exist anymore or you're just unconscious and there's problems with that. But when a Christian dies, he goes to be with the Lord. His spirit is with the Lord. At the rapture spoken of the first Thessalonians four 16 through chapter five verse two, what it's saying there is that the ones who rise first is in the context of the resurrection. So that's what that's going on. So we go be with the Lord and we're with him, but we return with him at the time of the rapture whenever that occurs. And then we're that we're resurrected and the ones who are resurrected first are those who had died first and then those who are alive and remain should be caught up together to meet him. And that's what's going on. Okay.

So, okay. So when the Bible says you are asleep, so in several places that says asleep, what is does that mean? It's just a poetic way of, of is when someone dies, it looks like they're asleep. And so when we know that that's not true because there's a very good reasons not true.

Two good reasons. One is that a second Corinthians 12 verses two through four, which was where Paul says, I know a man, whether in the body or out of the body, I do not know, but such a man was cut up in the third heaven and he saw and heard things. So that means that is possible. He had died. And that's one of the theories when he was stoned and thrown out of the city. And that's something that he died at that point had what's called an NDE, near death experience. And he went and saw things. If soul sleep is true, then he couldn't have done that. So that refutes that right there. But another more important issue is the person of Christ.

Hold on one sec. So Jesus has two natures. He has two natures, the divine nature and a human nature. And each nature has attributes. The attributes are ascribed to that single person. This is called the communicatio idiomatum.

That's what that's called. Now, if a human being goes to sleep and is unconscious at death, then that would mean then that the human nature of Christ went into a state of unconsciousness without activity. And that would jeopardize the communication of the properties and related to the hypostatic union.

So it's a serious error. We're out of time, so we can't go into detail. Okay? Okay. I appreciate that. Thank you so much. All right.

You're welcome. God bless. Hey, folks, we'll be right back after these messages. Please stay tuned. It's Matt Slick live, taking your calls at 877-207-2276. Here's Matt Slick. Hey, everybody. Welcome back to the show. Let's get to George from North Carolina. George, welcome. You're on the air. Hey, Matt. Good evening.

How you doing? Oh, hanging in there, hanging in there. So I've always been brought up, you know, under most of the teaching that I've been under is it's been a rapture before the tribulation. And I'm just wondering that my first question is, do you think that Jesus could come back at any time now or that other things have to take place before he could come back? Other things have to take place first. Okay. Okay. So that sort of answers the question that is I'm wondering when the mark of the beast comes out, if we're still here, Christians won't take it. But you, I mean, so Christians will be killed during that period of time, you believe, for not taking the mark of the beast. Okay.

Yes. I believe we are going through the tribulation. I don't believe in pre tribulation rapture. I don't believe that will be a, that will be a warning to people though.

It'll sort of give them a timeframe of when he's going to come back, when that starts happening though, wouldn't it? Yes. And in fact, if you go to Matthew 24, they asked Jesus, cause he, he says the, the stones of the temple will be destroyed. I've seen those. I've been to Israel and saw the fallen stones.

It's really awesome to see that actual thing. But, uh, he says they ask him, they ask him, uh, what, when will these things be that he's talking about? Everything's going to happen and what will be the sign of your coming? So two things he's asking when will the stones be taken down and what would be the sign of your return? Well, I'm not gonna read everything, but he goes on and he talks about the delivery to tribulation. Uh, many will fall away. Uh, he says, uh, the man, I mean the false prophets will arise.

Lawlessness will increase. Uh, therefore when you see the abomination of desolation, he goes on and on. And then he says immediately after the tribulation of those days, this is verse 29, the sun will be darkened, et cetera. The sign of the son of man will be, uh, appear in the sky. And he says, along with that, he said, that's when the great trumpet occurs and they will gather together as people. Now the great trumpet out of first Thessalonians four is when the rapture occurs.

And so it, the Jesus is saying that it occurs after the tribulation. Okay. Go ahead. Things worse. Yeah.

Make things worse. When you go to Matthew 13, the parable of the wheat and the tares, this really is interesting, but the parable of the wheat and the tares is where Jesus says, uh, allow both to go together until the time of the harvest. And I'll say to the reapers first gathered the tares.

And he says that the tare, the gathering is the end of the age. That's what he says. I'm familiar with it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

I'm going to have to do an article and stuff on this. Yup. It is a more comfortable feeling to think that there would be a pre tribulation rapture, but I'm definitely open minded after all the things that I've been hearing and studying. I'm definitely open minded to let the Lord open my mind. Uh, you know, as long as everybody agrees on Jesus crucified for our sins, I mean, that's the main thing, but it is kinda, it is kinda interesting to wonder about the end times. That's for sure.

Yeah. Well, you know, I see it's like this is I'll just make this comment. A lot of people believe in the preacher rapture and they'll say, you know, two men in the field, one is taken, one is left. And they'll say, that's the rapture.

And it absolutely without a doubt is not because when you read the context of Matthew 24 and Luke 17, the ones who were taken are the wicked. That's the context. When I've shown people this, I mean, showing it to them a hundred percent of the people have said, you're mad. You're right. That's what it says. I mean, seriously. Yeah. That's one of the main points that I've, that made me start doubting with it.

There'll be good. Well, here's the point I want to make about that. Why is it the preacher raptures, rapture assurance and teachers will use those verses two men in the field, one is taken, one is left about it being preacher rapture when it is not. And all you have to do is read the context and they, they just don't get it.

It really concerns me that they're not, uh, just seeing that that is, those verses aren't about preacher rapture. So, right. Well, I appreciate it, man. I'll, uh, I know you've got some, uh, I know you got some literature out on that.

I plan on, uh, looking at over it. And like I said, I'm definitely open-minded to it. It's just hard to change. Have you been brought up under a certain feeding the whole time and it's a change of mind on it. It is. I appreciate it, sir. It took me years just so you know, it took me years to gradually change and you just don't go, here it is or you're done. No, you know, it takes a while to get to work it out. So no problem.

I hope the preacher. You have a great evening, right? You too, brother.

God bless. All right. Take care. All right.

All right. Let's get to Peel from Virginia. Peel, I guess I got your name right.

Welcome. You're on the air. Are you saying Pearl? Pearl? Oh, it's not spelled right on the screen here. Hey, Pearl, how are you doing?

I'm doing fine. I want to ask you something, sir, because you, uh, what I love about you is that show me that in God's word. That's right. In God's word. So anyway, but this is not in God's word.

It's something else. I heard a minister, just the end of his talk the other day, sermon, whatever, that he believed that God killed us from himself so that he could save us for himself. It doesn't make any sense.

Killed us from himself. I don't understand that phrase. In other words, this said to me, and I know you would tell me, well, you're wrong. You're right.

I believe that God almighty in the scriptures is the only God that there ever was, is, or ever shall be. That's good. And that he can do absolutely anything he wants to do. That's correct.

Is that correct or not? That's very correct. He can do whatever he wants. He will never want to sin or lie, for example. We can't do those things, but whatever he wants. That's very good.

Whatever he wants, when he wants it, to whatever extent, forever and ever and ever. That's right. Good Reformed theology there.

Good, good for you. And that he is God almighty, uncreated, sovereign. He is all.

That's right. So what's this mean, yes, what does it mean that he killed himself for us, or us killed, I don't understand, what's that? Well, I'll try to explain.

It came to me. He killed us. What do you mean killed us? He killed us because, he killed, he killed us because we were sinners so that he could save us for himself.

Well, okay. I would not say that he killed us. I would say that in Adam we all die. Okay. Would you not say, though, could you not say, is that absolutely wrong to say that in Adam we all die? Well, listen, the Bible says, in Adam all die, 1 Corinthians 15, 22.

So I would stick with what it says. To say he killed us, it raises too many questions and too many issues. And then you have to explain what you mean by this, and you have to discuss it, and then you have to go through and defend that, and those kind of statements can provide opportunities for problems.

Okay. Well, do you understand where I'm coming from, where I told you that I believe he is God Almighty and he can do anything, anytime, any way that he wants to do because he is God alone forever. That's true. But what, I wouldn't say, though, that he killed us. Yeah, a lot of people don't believe that.

You know, they don't believe maybe that the Lord Jesus died for us and, you know, things that are in the Word. But I believe he is uncreated. He is God Almighty. He can do anything he wants to do.

I don't care what it is, he can do it. I'm not saying he does it, but I'm saying that he is God Almighty and that he can do anything he wants to do. That's correct. That's good theology. That's his omnipotence.

That's right. His omnipotence. And our preachers don't preach that. Well. Even if it's, well, when you ask somebody, are you saved? Do you know the Lord Jesus as your Savior? They may say, yes, I've gone, you've heard this. I've gone to church all my life.

I was reared in a Christian home and a blah, blah, blah. And I'll say, no, I didn't ask you that. I said, if you don't have a ticket to go in a theater, they won't let you in. I said, what is your ticket?

It's not you at all what you can do. I said, if you don't have the assurance of the blood of the lamb. That's right. But you know what, Pearl, we've got a break. You are not going to heaven.

I don't care what you've done. That's true. That's true. But we have a break. Can you hold on? Okay. Yes.

We've got a break. Okay. Hey folks, we'll be right back after these messages. Please stay tuned and Lord willing, we'll be right back. It's Matt Slick live, taking your calls at 877-207-2276.

Here's Matt Slick. All right, welcome back to the show. Let's get back on here with Pearl.

All right, Pearl, welcome. Sir, I just want to say my favorite verse from God's word at this point in my life is Deuteronomy, I believe it's chapter 30 verse 39. I, even I am God. And there is no God beside me. I kill, I wound, I heal.

And there is none that can deliver out of my hand. That's right. So that's my favorite verse. And so that's why I guess I say that my precious God can do anything he wants to do. It could be that his plan was to have people that fell and he allowed them to die. He just said I kill in his word so that he could have us in classroom with God the Holy Spirit to learn exactly what he wanted, how he wanted us to be in eternity with him when we live with him. So I just wondered if that, like I said, it kind of shocked me that a minister would say that. I didn't hear the sermon he was given. But it sounded, when you think about it, that God Almighty is absolutely God. There is not another one.

He can do anything he wants to do. That's right. That's true. And as I said, ministers don't preach that and they don't preach the precious blood of the Lamb.

Well I don't know if all do or don't, but what you're saying there is accurate. God can do anything he desires and he does that. He's a jealous God.

His name is jealous. And therefore, when we like little children turn our backs and walk away from him, when he tells us in Psalm 12, do you know it? Not off the top of my head, but it says this, God the Father is speaking as far as I'm concerned. Kiss the Son lest he be angry and you perish from the way when his wrath is kindled but a little. Now I know that doesn't mean we lose our salvation, but kiss the Son.

We don't hear that. I asked three ministers one time. We were looking for another minister and not one of them knew it. They didn't know it was in the Bible. The Bible is a big book, but the NASB says do homage to the Son, honor or reverence to the Son. Well this is new King James that I have and I love that because he has taught me and I'm not just preaching to you, sir. I reverence you not as God but my brother. That to me is so beautiful and he has taught me and you might say you're going too far, but to me beloved means darling and so the Lord Jesus has taught me to call him my darling.

Now people would probably say I'm a fanatic, that's okay, but I used to tell my husband before he died that I didn't have one darling but that he was my sweetheart and that darling is the Lord Jesus because darling, if I'm not wrong, means the only one. Okay, we're seeing a lot of different things there, but I do appreciate it and do you have another question at all? No, I guess I was warning you to say that you agreed with the fact that God could have killed the whole entire creation before they were ever created and then it came to pass like on a stage and to have killed us so that God the Holy Spirit can teach us exactly what it means to be born again. There's a lot of concepts you're mixing in there and God killing people, he does that out of righteous execution. He can also destroy the life of the believer if the believer is in wanton sin and unrepentant.

Those are just another, but I appreciate that and thanks for the nice words there, appreciate it. Well, I do, nobody ever told me to listen to you, I won't say I happen to hear you because nothing just happens. I believe that my God is, he says that, I love that in Deuteronomy. I even I am God and there is no God beside me. Our poor world, and you would agree with that, is in such a darkness not to know that the only God that there is is our God and that he took on human flesh so that he could die for us. I think that it's so beautiful of him. There's nothing that's not beautiful about him.

Nothing. And while we can't see that, I can see where he would allow, if he is God he can do anything, he can stop it. You understand from where I'm coming. He is God Almighty over this whole universe.

Yes he is. And I would definitely appreciate your kind words and good stuff about the Lord and we'll get to the next caller now, okay? Okay, thank you, sir. All right. Bye bye. Okay, thanks, bye.

All right, that pearls a sweetie. Let's get to Luke from Washington. Hey Luke, welcome you on the air. Hi Matt, how are you?

I'm fine, how are you? Good, I was talking to a Muslim guy, he's my friend, and then I was talking about the election and then he asked me, how do you know that you are an elect? Second question.

Let's do one question at a time, okay? How do you know you're elect? If you're saved, you know? If you're saved, you're a Christian, you're elect. Okay, no problem.

All right? Yeah, then question, that's right. How do you know that you are saved? How do you know you're saved? Muslim is asking a question, not a Christian question. How do you know that you are saved?

If you've trusted in Christ Jesus, believe he's God in the flesh, died in the cross, rose from the dead, you put your faith and trust in him, then you're saved. Because that's what the scriptures teach. I told him, and then he said, how come the Bible saying that Jesus is the son of God, and how do you know that I own God in the Bible? Can you show me that in the words, God is my own?

And Jesus is the son? Yes, I can. Yes, I can. I can talk to Muslims. I can show the Trinity, the Bible. Yeah. So what's the big deal? Yeah, he's been debating with me.

Show me on and then he's a hero in trial. Our God is one. That is what the Bible says.

Okay, then you say, yes, we agree God is one. Uh huh. Yep.

That's right. Yeah, but yeah, but show me a verse in the Bible. So how do I sort him? And I do it. Do it. Hey, hold on.

Do it on to me. Six, four. He says hero Israel, the Lord, our God is one.

We agree. And his problem is that the Quran, this represents a Trinity. It says in Surah five 73, Allah, okay, you get a mute yourself, man, because it's just, I don't want to put you on hold.

It's just too loud. Um, this is what the Muslims, uh, they deny the Trinity. They think the Trinity teaches like three gods and it doesn't.

This is out of Surah five 73 in the Quran. They do blaspheme who say Allah is one of three and a Trinity. There is no God except one Allah. What they're doing there is misunderstanding the doctrine of the Trinity because it's saying there's one of three, one of three.

What? There's no God. He says only one God. So the, the, the, what's the statement is saying is it's implying the Trinity is three gods. That's what the implication is. That verse is.

That means he didn't understand what that is. And so they are taught that the Trinity is three separate gods out of the scriptures. The no, no, no. They'll say God is only one.

And we, I say to Muslims, we agree God's only one. Uh, yeah. So what's the problem?

And they're not used to someone saying that and agreeing with them that, uh, that is the case. So anyway, there you go. Uh, I can't, I can't reactivate Luke, so I can't get him back on.

It was just so much road noise where he was. So let's, uh, let's try this again. Luke, are you still there? Okay. Yes. Yes. Yes. I can hear you can respond that you can.

So that's one of the ways to respond. Okay. All right.

Are you there? Yes. Yes. And you know, you know, he's asking me, I said, you are an unbeliever. What do you mean by unbeliever? That's next question. You cannot understand.

I don't understand the question. He's asking, what does it mean to be an unbeliever? If a Muslim said to me, what does it mean to be an unbeliever?

I'd say it means to be a Muslim for one thing. According to me, you are an unbeliever and I am an, and Christians are unbelievers. And according, I'd say, and according to me, you're an unbeliever. Do you believe in a false God? He said to me that you believe in a false God, three gods, and that Jesus never said, I am God. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Don't throw a thousand things out at me at once. I need to respond to one thing at a time. So if he says you believe in three gods, no we don't.

So 573 gets it wrong. Look, dude, there's just too much noise in the background. Okay. So we're just going to have to move along. Okay.

And, uh, we'll just move along. So, um, Muslims often get the Christian theology wrong. They, and this is something that I've, I've had to face countless times with Muslims and I've offered something to the Muslims with them.

For example, they might say the Trinity's three gods. I say, no, it isn't. And I'll say, look, would you be interested in me teaching you what we really actually teach, actually believe, and no Muslim is interested in it, which is really interesting because if, if I were to talk to a Muslim, he said, man, that's not our position. He said, would you like me to teach you the position for real?

I say, yes, I would. I want to know what you, what it really is. Cause maybe I'm misrepresenting it not on purpose. Maybe I just don't have a thorough understanding. I have no problem with that. But when I offer the same thing to Muslims, not a single one has ever taken me up on it.

Now there's a huge difference. I think it's because they're just simply brainwashed and they're, they're taught that we don't know what we're doing. Don't know how to think, can't anything, but they're just brainwashed. And when I offer them, no, that's not what we say. Let me teach you what we really do say. They don't want to know. I haven't had a single instance where a Muslim has said, okay, uh, I want to know what you actually teach. I'd have to teach them anyway. I say, nope, the Quran got it wrong.

We do not believe that the Trinity is three gods. Okay. And things like that as sort of five 73 says, okay, Hey, there's a music. I'm out of here. May the Lord bless you by his grace or mine, but back on here tomorrow and we'll talk to you then have a good evening, everyone. God bless. Bye. Other program powered by the truth network.
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