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If you want to give me a call on March 13, 2024, you can dial 877-207-2276. It's nice to see and to talk to someone who loved the Lord and was willing to risk so much to get out there and serve the Lord Jesus Christ. So there was this woman and she said that she had stopped by and was talking to him too, but she was not with him and she had a couple of kids. And so they were supporting him too and so we all got talking and she said she loves the Lord and she goes to this one church. I said, wow, what church is it? And she gave me the name of this church and now I remembered.

I go, oh, I emailed them. It's a church in Boise. She said she loves that church. It's a great church. She drives 20 miles just to get there every Sunday. She thinks it's great. She's awesome.

She looks forward to it. And I said, do they have women pastors and elders there? Oh, yeah, they have a pastor so-and-so, she, blah, blah, blah. And so, because I had actually emailed that church about that, if I remember correctly.

I believe it was that church, I'm pretty sure. And I said, so, in the email, I'm interested in talking to you about this. The Bible says give an answer and I'm asking you about this, why you have women pastors.

And I said, the Bible certainly seems to put the kibosh on that. So I haven't heard back or I haven't checked to see if they've emailed me back. I need to do. They did email me, though I will say this.

They emailed me and it's a standard thank you very much and we'll get back to you. And I haven't checked since, but I'll check. And so I said to her, I said, you know that women pastors and elders are not biblical. I'm trying to be nice, you know. I mean, I'm just a stranger.

She's out there praising God. And she's looking at me and says, oh, yeah. I said, look. And I said, here are the verses and I get quoted some stuff and I said, no. I emailed them asking for, you know, a discussion on why they do this. And I do that with churches every now and then.

I say, why do you do this when the Bible says this and this and that and that? And in fact, I'm checking right now to see if, yeah, let's see if I'll look. Yeah, I got some stuff.

But there's nothing from them back, which is often the case. I can do a research. I can search all my emails.

I have a program at Lesnar to do that pretty quickly. And it's very often the case that a church won't email me back. They won't respond. And I find it really interesting. Because I'll ask them a question, biblically based.

Can you please give me an answer according to the scripture? And they don't contact me. They don't write back.

It happens like 80% of the time. And I think it's because they don't want to deal with what the word of God actually says. I told this lady that 80% of the churches and denominations that adopt women pastors and elders in two generations, they start approving of homosexuality and stuff. She's looking at me. I said, yeah, it's a really high percentage.

And they said because they're not taking that area of scripture seriously. So I gave her my card and she thought that was interesting. But the light changed.

They were waiting a few cycles of light and they had to go across the street. I said, okay, well, nice talking to you. It was really good.

It was all smiles. So I go into the store and I get some stuff and I got to get out of there because I got so much to do all the time. So I hustle.

Not too fast, but I get it done. And I go into the self-checkout line and there's a guy there and he's working there and he's checking everything. And we get talking. I don't know how we got talking about this, but we got talking about the Lord and he goes to a local church. And I asked, you know, I was just out there talking on the street out here about this and that. And I said, talk about women pastors. And I said, does your church have one? He goes, oh, yeah. So here I am again. I said, well, you know, this is what the scriptures teach.

I gave him my card and he goes, Carm? He goes, oh, I like that site. So I said, well, praise God. He goes, yeah, I've been there a while.

I'm going to have to go back. And I said, well, there you go. And so it was nice.

It was a nice conversation. But it's really irking me. It irks me. Thou shalt not be irked.

You know, I almost want to say it, but I'm irked. Why is it that so many churches and denominations affirm that which is against scripture? It's just against scripture.

I'm going to do this like I always do. After all these decades, I've been doing radio now, I think, 23 years. So I'm offering to do a formal debate in person, let's just say at your church, and we'll debate, does the Bible support women pastors and elders? That's the topic. It narrows it down to scripture, which is where we need to go. So I have been offering this debate challenge for 20 years.

Not a single person, not a single church has ever accepted the challenge, not one. Now, why is that? Why is it? Oh, maybe because they know I'll go straight to God's word, and they know the verses say this and that, and they don't want to face it, because they'd rather hold their finger up into the doctrinal wind of secularism and see what popular stuff is around so they can adopt that and go that way. Is that why?

That's what I think. So as Stephen says, I probably irk them with the question. Yeah, so I guess you could call me an irker. I irk people. I have them to become irked.

It'd be fun to have a t-shirt like that. I dust. Do I irketh thee? I don't know, so we'll see. At any rate, there you go.

It's just one of my days, one of my average days. All right, all right, all right. Hey, if you want to give me a call, 877-207-2276, and if you want to e-mail me info at karm.org, that's C-A-R-M dot O-R-G, and put in a radio question or radio comment, and we'll get to them. Let's get to Jamal from North Carolina. Jamal, welcome.

You're on the air. Thank you, Smith. Appreciate you taking my call, sir. No problem, man. What do you got, buddy?

Cool. I wanted to ask about, I think that's Jeremiah 10, where it's talking about cutting down a tree and adorning it with gold and silver, to a conversation with a friend of mine who is using that passage to say that we should not worship, not worship, we should not celebrate Christmas. And after listening to you a while ago, and you're saying that, you know, we don't worship any tree, and we're not celebrating any kind of, I think he said not celebrating any kind of pagan rituals.

We're just celebrating the birthday of Christmas, of Christ. But he continued to say, no, look, clearly he says that he cut down a tree and adorning it with all silver and gold, that's going against Christmas. So I said, okay, fine. I'll go to the common denominator, the Bible and Netflix and see what you have to say about that.

All right. So does Jeremiah 10 forbid Christmas trees? Well, no, it doesn't. And the reason it does not is because the context here is idolatry.

Because notice what he says, thus says the Lord, do not learn the way of the nations and do not be terrified by the signs of the heavens. Although the nations are terrified by them, for the customs of the peoples are delusion, because it is wood cut from the forest, a work of the hands of a craftsman with a cutting tool. They decorate it with silver and gold. They fasten it with nails and hammers so that it will not totter. Like a scarecrow on a cucumber field, they are, are they? They cannot speak.

They must be carried because they cannot walk. Do not fear them, for they can do no harm, nor can they do any good. So what this is obviously talking about is using this thing of a tree in idol worship and pagan worship.

That's what's going on. And it's not talking about that, or excuse me, it's not what it is when we have a Christmas tree. A Christmas tree just says, hey, it's a tree. You don't put presents underneath it. People come around, we're celebrating that traditional date of the birth of Christ.

And that's all it is, and that's what the difference is. We're not using it as an object of worship or adoration or in a church service. And we don't do those things with gold and silver and bow down and when God says, don't worry, it doesn't speak. It can't do anything.

Well, why would it say that? Because it's an idol. That's what that is, and it's not an idol to us. Hold on.

Sorry about that. Furthermore, in 1 Corinthians 10, there's something really important. I would ask that guy, I said, well, let's just say that you're a missionary in a foreign country and a lot of pagans. And up on this one hill is a pagan temple. And they sacrifice animals that are pagan gods. And then you go down in the marketplace and you can buy the meat sacrificed to those pagan gods. Can you buy that meat and eat it? If he says no, well, then he needs to familiarize himself with 1 Corinthians 10, where it says, yeah, you can eat that meat because those demonic forces really are not any true gods or anything and it's not going to hurt you. So, well, wait a minute. How can we eat meat sacrificed to idols?

Well, not to do it if it stumbles somebody else, but it's not going to hurt you, Paul says. So there's something very specific. This was used in their idolatry services, and yet we can buy that meat and eat it. So I would ask them, in light of 1 Corinthians 10, you go to Jeremiah 10, with the tree. Now, are the people who have trees in their homes, are they worshipping them? No. Sacrificing the idols? No.

Well, then it's not a problem. We'll be right back and then comment after that. Hey, folks, we'll be right back after these messages.

Please stay tuned. Hey, everybody, welcome back to the show. Well, let's get back on the air with – okay, which one was it?

Oh, man, we have – now I'm confused because – let's see. Maybe he's gone. No, it's right – there he is. Thanks a lot.

The producer came to my rescue. Hey, Jamal. It's right there. I can see it. Yeah, I'm looking at all this stuff. Hey, thanks, Keith. Okay.

All right, man, what do you got? We were talking about Christmas in Jeremiah 10. Right.

And then you were kind of wrapping up with – I'm sorry? Yeah, that's right. And so I gave an explanation there, so we're free to use a tree if you want. You don't have to if you don't want to, but he doesn't have the right to say that it's sinful for you because it's not an idolatrous thing, which is what the context of Jeremiah 10 is. Okay.

Right. So he is going to look at some specifics because, you know, he can be pretty detailed. So what can I point to specifically that would say that that chapter is saying that what they're doing is idolatry and what we're doing in Christmas is not idolatry? By reading Jeremiah 10, 2 through 5.

Just read it, study it, and you'll see what it says. They decorated it with silver, fastened nails, hammers, so it won't totter like a scarecrow. He says they must be carried because they cannot walk. Do not fear them. They can do no harm.

No, can they do any good? So why would you fear a tree? It's because they represent the pagan idolatry that's going on.

That's what's going on there. And you ask them, is that what's happening when you have a tree in your house? See, the cross was invented by the Phoenicians and then the Romans borrowed it, copied it as a means of execution. Well, the pagans are the ones who invented it.

The pagans are the ones who used it to enforce their pagan rules. So ask them, do you have a cross in your house? Do you wear a cross? Do you promote the cross?

Because it's a pagan origin symbol. And there's a thing called the genetic fallacy. My neighbor next door is an atheist. He taught me algebra, so therefore algebra is false. It's called the genetic fallacy. It's a fallacy of logic.

The source of something doesn't mean that it is by nature bad. So if the decoration of the trees was done by pagans, does that mean we can't decorate a tree? I'm sorry, you'd decorate any tree to pagan. Well, what if you have a tree in your backyard and you're having a party, you know, barbecue at night. And you put lights up in the tree, make it look cool. I'm sorry, you decorated a tree. You're pagan. Right.

So how far do you want to take this? Yeah. And that's the whole point. And then you go to 1 Corinthians 10, talks about meat sacrificed to idols. And so you can eat the meat sacrificed to idols. But what I normally do with people, I don't tell them about that. I say, if you were a missionary and temple up there and paganist, would you eat the meat sacrificed to idols?

Would you buy it and eat it? They go, of course not. Then you'd hit them with 1 Corinthians 10, where it says you can. That's 1 Corinthians 10, 25 through roughly 30.

Okay. So there's another thing. We're under the new covenant. We're no longer under the law. Now the only real laws that are reiterated in the New Testament are nine of the Ten Commandments. And the one commandment that's not reiterated is the Sabbath, because Jesus is our Sabbath.

So I have an article on this on Karm. So we're not under the law. We've died in Christ, Romans 6-6, Romans 6-8, Romans 3-3, or Colossians 3-3. So we've died with Christ, and those who have died are no longer under the law. That's Romans 7, 1 through 4. So are we obligated to follow this aspect of the law of Jeremiah? It's just a theological question. You can ask him.

And then again, you go to 1 Corinthians 10. And so, you know, with all of that, that should be a good response for him. And if he disagrees, have him call me on the show.

I would love to. I doubt he would do that, because, you know, he's more of a kind of a, I don't say low-level, but more of a, I guess, person-to-person debater. You wouldn't want to call a big radio show and have a big audience and go back and forth, you know, that kind of a scenario. I wouldn't think. But I can always ask.

And if you get a call from him, that means he accepted. But I wouldn't hold my breath, though. You know, looking at the chat text, and Humbled Clay says, strip the tree, stick it to a pig and roast it. And, well, it's a funny comment, but, you know, could you do that? Well, yeah, but the Bible says don't eat pig and pork.

In the Old Testament, so does he eat pork. There's a lot of things about this that we could ask questions. See, we're free. If you want to have a tree in your house, have a tree. You don't want to have a tree, don't have a tree. You're not using it for worship and adoration or any object for that. You shouldn't do that. Well, then, what's the big deal? Okay? Simple. Thanks, sir. And I have some other questions, but I'll call back and get back in line. Sounds good, man. Okay. Sounds good, brother. God bless. All right. God bless. God bless.

Well, that was Jamal from North Carolina. Let's get to Tom from Raleigh, North Carolina. Tom, welcome. You're on the air.

Hi, Matt. Question. Sorry, I may have to run out of here in about five minutes to drive my daughter to volleyball, but I needed to ask you about the Nephilim, and the Nephilim are referenced in Genesis, chapter 6, and the sons of God went into the daughters of men, and they produced offspring. My question is this. Is it possible that the Neanderthals are actually the Nephilim of the Bible?

Well, I want to say no. Neanderthals have a larger brain capacity than Homo sapiens sapiens. Furthermore, there was a test done where people took computers, and they took pictures of people from different ages and used the computers to figure out how to age them.

So they use it in detective work, police work. This is what the so-and-so might look like by now. Well, someone said, what happens if you take them two, three, four, five hundred, six hundred years in the future? And guess what they looked like? Neanderthals.

That was a, they went, oh my goodness. Well, that would support the idea of people living a long time. So what the, it's not the Neanderthals, but I believe Neanderthals were just humans and stuff like that.

And I studied science too. But at any rate, so the Nephilim are the half-breeds, and they were giants. So they were the ones who, yeah, let's just say there was an offspring between fallen angels and women, and the flood came and destroyed them, and some people think they might be demons, because there's fallen angels and then there's demons, and demons always want to be inhabiting a body of some sort. So the theory, just a theory, that it might be them. So who knows?

Alright, let me ask you this then, for the dinosaurs, since we don't find DNA in dinosaur fossils, but we do find DNA in mammoths, for example, is it possible that the dinosaurs were in a pre-existence before God covered the water, the earth with water? No. Okay, hold on. We've got a break, and then we'll get back, and I'll show you where dinosaurs are in the Bible, okay? So hold on a minute, I know you've got to go, but if you have to go, just listen on the radio if you can. Hey folks, we'll be right back after these messages. Please stay tuned. Okay. Yes. What you want to do is go to Job 40 and 41.

You can read them on your own. But, in Job 40, 15-24, Behold now the strength of behemoth, the power in his muscles. He bends his tail like a cedar. The sinews of his thighs are knit together. His bones are tubes of bronze, his limbs are like bars of iron.

He's the first of the ways of God. Let his maker bring near his sword, surely the mountains bring him food, and all the beasts of the field play there. Under the lotus plants he lies down. He converts the reeds of the marsh. Anyway, the lotus plant covers him, and when the river rages, he's not alarmed. And he goes on, and he says, with barbs, can anyone pierce his nose?

Can he be caught when he's on watch? So they're describing something humongous and ferocious. Now, some say it might be an elephant or a hippopotamus, but it talks about the power of his muscles of his belly and his tails like a cedar tree, which is huge.

So it's not fitting that. And then there's a water-based sculpture in Job 41, and it says things like, who can strip off his outer armor? Who can come within his double male?

You know, those male that the knights would wear, you know, those chain stuff. Who can open the doors of his face? Around his teeth there is terror. He sneezes flash forth light. So this is one of the theories about this creature, was able to put fire forward. And that's where dragons come from. People say that's just myth. There's a beetle, a bombardier beetle, that can actually produce fire out of its rear. They have two chemicals, and when they mix, it flashes, it explodes.

It's a defense mechanism. So it does exist in nature. It goes out of his mouth, go burning torches, sparks of fire leap forth. Out of his nostrils, smoke goes forth, as from a boiling pot in burning rushes. And it goes forth. Because of the crashing, people are bewildered when he raises himself up. The sword that reaches him cannot avail, nor the spear, the dart or the javelin. He regards iron as straw, bronze as rotten wood, and it goes on.

So what the heck are these things? Furthermore, just so you know, the dating method in science is different. Now people have heard about carbon dating, but it only goes back to about 100,000 years. And they're finding carbon inside of coal shales and diamonds, which there should be no carbon-14, because it has a half-life of 5,370 years, I think it is. So after 92,000 years, there should be nothing left. Yes, I'm aware of that.

I've heard those same reports. Right. Well, here's the thing, is that they're finding polystrate fossils, which are trees that fossilize through 600 million years of rock layers.

Oops. You find cave drawings of dinosaurs. And there's been tribes out in jungles, I think of Africa, that when somebody showed them some pictures of dinosaurs, they point out in the jungle, all of them point in the same direction, pointing out there. So I don't believe that they are separate by millions of years. I don't buy that. And then we have dating methods of rock strata, the potassium argon, and then there's another one.

They get millions and millions and millions and millions of years of difference of readings. So this is not that accurate. I'm just saying, you know? Okay.

So in that case, I've been to Answers in Genesis Creation Museum and Ark Encounter, and they teach that dinosaurs were on the ark with Noah. I mean, is that something that we should go along with as Christians? What do you think? Sure. Why not?

I don't have any problem with that. They're reptiles, and they're cold-blooded, most probably. And so they would be dormant, largely. I've written an article about the size of the ark and how many animals it could hold if the average animal was the size of a sheep. And it's immense.

It's a humongous amount. There are all kinds of issues here, and I don't have any problem with dinosaurs being on an ark. You could have small ones.

What's the problem with that? And they sleep and are fed and stuff like that, and then they're released. No problem. Most people don't know this, but 98% of all species that have ever lived are now extinct. I remember reading an article once that in dinosaurs there's like 40 or 60 species, and that's all. It's all.

And so what the heck? Then there's what's called the Cambrian explosion, which is about 520 million years ago, plus or minus 10 years span. And the Cambrian explosion deals with 40 body types that suddenly appear at the beginning of the Cambrian explosion, not during a 15 million year period of evolutionary development, but at the beginning. How do you have 40 different body types suddenly appear in a rock strata? According to evolution, that's a problem, and they don't have an answer.

But if it was a flood and everything was layered, and that's why, then it wouldn't be a problem. Okay? Yeah, there's lots to this.

Yeah, I've read that also. Good. All right, well, that's all my questions. I'm a little surprised about the Nephilim, your answer on that, but I'll accept it. Maybe one day we'll understand why the Neanderthals were so different than the humans. Still human, yet very different.

No, they were very, very, very, very similar. And you can have, in present genetics, you can have all kinds of sizes of people, brain capacities of people, shapes of heads. So another thing is, guess how many pool tables it would take?

I read this like 30 years ago. How many pool tables it would take to put all the human ancestor fossils, to lay them all out. And at the time it was two. So there's not a whole bunch of evidence. I've heard that they would all fit in the bed of one pickup truck, is what I've read. Yes, yep.

I've been generous with two. And so there are problems, and what they do is they produce all kinds of stuff on evolutionary theory based on a tooth, a pig's tooth, which turned out to be false. They have homo habilis, they have homo efferensis, they have australopithecines, theanthropus disonii, they have all these hominid ancestor lines. But the problem here is ultimately information transmission and development. Because genetics, deoxyribonucleic acid, which is formed from four nucleotide bond pairs, adenine, quinine, adenine, thymine, guanine, and cytosine. These things form in the helix, the sugar phosphate helix of the DNA molecule, and they form information bonds. But these things are so incredibly complex that to have them match inside... Oh, you've got something going on back there. I'm going to mute yourself.

People just panicked listening on the radio while they're driving. So the mathematics of information formation and transference genetically to alterations of new phyla is basically mathematically impossible given the conditions that have been present and the time durations. So there's a lot of evidence against evolution, but it's not taught because the leftists are in control of information, and that's a serious thing. But anyway, that's another topic, okay?

I totally agree with you that they suppress it. I do not believe in evolution. I was raised believing it in public school, and I completely reject it now. Micro works, but it's a reduction of the gene pool through predation and environmental pressures, not an increase in genetic information, which is macroevolution. And genetic information has to be then modified, and it has to be transmitted upon a gene pool. So the species, if you have thousands and thousands and thousands of breeding pairs of something, then the genetics has to gradually overtake all of it in many different environments.

And the time that it takes for this kind of a thing to occur, I read another article about this, that mathematically it's possible, but the universe has to be 200 billion years old. There's so many problems. Anyway, okay, buddy, we'll get going. Appreciate it. All right, Tom. All right, man, God bless. You bet. Okay. All right. Yeah, I could talk about that.

I love that stuff. Let's get to Luke from Washington, D.C. Luke, welcome. You're on the air. Hi, Matt. How are you? Doing all right, man. Hanging in there.

What do you got? Hi, question. Did Jesus have a fallen human nature? No, he did not. He did not have original sin out of Romans 5, 19, that through the transgression of the one, the many were made sinners. But this is due to the issue of federal headship, that the male, not the female, represents a descendants. And so, Christ did not fall into the genetic line of male descendancy because he was only born of the Virgin Mary, and not in the genetic line of the father, Joseph.

So, therefore, he did not have a sin nature, and he did not have a fallen nature. So, there you go. Okay? All right, man. I'm going to do it.

I almost can do it. We've got a break. Hold on, we've got a break, okay? We'll get back to you after the break. All right, buddy. Hey, folks, we'll be right back after these messages, please. Stay tuned. It's Matt Slick live, taking your calls at 877-207-2276.

Here's Matt Slick. Hey, everybody. Welcome back to the show. Last segment of the hour.

Let's get back on with Luke real fast before we get to the callers. All right, man. What do you got? Hello? Yep. Still there? Yeah. Yes, sir.

I'm still here. Do Christians allow alcohol every day? I'm sorry, what? Do Christians drink alcohol every day? The question is difficult to answer. Do Christians, all Christians everywhere, is someone drinking alcohol in a day, in a particular day? Probably, yes. So, I would say, yes, Christians drink alcohol every day. Do all Christians drink alcohol every day? I don't know. I don't think so. I'm a Christian. I don't.

Okay. Do Christians allow to drink alcohol every day? Yeah, they're allowed to. Yeah, they can drink alcohol. In Proverbs 31, 6, I believe it is, it gives strong drink to the one who's perishing and wine to the one who's in distress. So, you're allowed to drink alcohol, just don't have it master you. Don't use it as an excuse to be mastered by something and be addicted.

You just do all things with care. Okay. So, the previous question, because he says, he says, born in flesh with incarnations. So, he's saying that he's not born in sin. He don't have a sin nature.

Right, he does not have a sin nature. That's correct. Okay. So, yeah. Previous caller told you, you told him that Nephilim, that was in Job chapter 40.

Nephilim is in Genesis 6, but in Job 40 and 41, it looks like it mentions dinosaurs, a water-based type and a land-based type. Okay. Alright, thank you, sir. You're welcome. Alright. God bless.

Alright. Now, let's get to the next longest waiting is Derek from Virginia. Derek, welcome. You're on the air. Hey, Matt. I'm a new listener. How are you today? Oh, I'm doing alright, man. I've got the great privilege of being able to talk to people about the Lord. So, what do you got?

That's right. Yeah, I caught your radio coming on from work and I've been listening for the last couple of days and it's been a real blessing. Well, by God's grace, because I'll tell you, if you knew me in person, you'd not be impressed. It's bad.

Same here. Yes, I got a question. I guess my question is about healing. I guess it's about sixteen years ago I lost my mother to pancreatic cancer and I was raised in a church and I've known the Lord all my life and I can scarcely think of anyone who has prayed over more than my mother and I know you've dealt with loss. I was listening the other day, you lost your son, I think you said your wife dealt with some kind of pain issue or whatever, but my question is, there's a verse in the Bible and I'm paraphrasing, I think it's James, it's like, it says, is anyone sick among you, bring them to the elders and pray over them and I think it's a prayer of faith, the person could be healed and I struggled with this for a while because, like I said, she passed away and my sister, which is a wonderful Christian woman, she was basically telling me, Derek, maybe you lost your mother, maybe that was her healing, maybe that was God's healing for her by her home going and just kind of wanted to get your take on that. Does this verse apply to us today or was this applied to people back in the times of Christ?

It applies today and the question is, what does it mean? So different theologians have offered different explanations and what's interesting about it, it says, is anyone among you sick? Then he must call for the elders of the church and they are to pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord and the prayer offered in faith will restore the one who is sick and the Lord will raise him up and if he commits sins, they'll be forgiven him.

Why do you throw that in? It says, therefore confess your sins to one another. So is this an issue then in the context of sickness due to sin? And so with the elders coming in, then it looks like they are aware of a sinful issue and so they are anointing, he's being forgiven, etc.

and then he's healed. So because of this, some say, well it just has to do with just physical things and anything. My wife has a very rare condition and my son died from a very rare condition. So these conditions occur and people get pancreatic cancer, they get lung cancer, brain aneurysm. So is God obligated then to heal everybody who prays this?

Well no, if that were the case, no one would ever die and we've got problems there. So this is for the will of God. Now in Exodus 4-11, Moses is talking to God, he says, I'm not a good speaker, etc.

etc. You sent me to Pharaoh, I'm not very good at this. God says, who makes the eye blind, the tongue dumb and the ear deaf? Is it not I, the Lord? He's saying that he's in control, don't worry about what you're saying. But in this process, he talks about God actually making people sick. People say, well that's never the case. Yes it is, because he said so in Exodus 4-11. Okay, now wait a minute, what about that? Well if God makes someone sick, there's going to be a reason for it. Not just an arbitrary, hey I'm going to slap this guy down. So then if you're praying against what God's will is for that, now what do you do?

So you see, this is not an easy topic. So what we do is move forward by faith and we say, Lord, would you please heal? I pray almost every night, 99%, except last night I forgot, but I pray for my wife and her healing. We pray together each night, she's out of state right now, and I pray for her and she's still not healed. It's not my business, it is, but God's the one who heals. And so I pray in faith, and she does too, and we're waiting for that healing. And if God takes her home to heal her, then that's the answer. And if he doesn't, but in the meantime she's praising God through everything about it, that's more glory for God and a greater reward for her.

This is a hard one to, yeah, it's a tough one. And I've seen good, I mean I've seen a lot of good that has come out from my mother's passing, I mean it was several people have actually come to know the Lord through it, and we've actually, there's a girl at church who's dealing with the same type of cancer, and I've seen so many good things that have, you know, I can see God's handiwork in his fingerprint on that, and it's a lot of good that comes out of it. Yeah, there is. And so the tough thing for us is to live through it, and by faith, pray for healing, expect healing, and trust God when it doesn't happen, and praise God either way if it does or doesn't. Well I'll be praying for your wife, and pray things go well for you, and keep up the good work on the show, like I said it's been a blessing, I've been listening to it the last couple of days. Well good. Yeah, praise God man, and I wish I had better answers for questions like that, but sometimes I just don't. It's tough, yeah.

Yeah, it is. All right, all right, okay, God bless you. Thanks, sir. God bless you. All right. All right, now let's get to Amy from Wyoming, Amy, welcome, you're on the air. Hi Mr. Schleich, thanks for having me again.

No problem. So I'm a person that I believe what the Bible says is true, and I don't really, but I'm also a person that questions why a lot, not always what, but just why, I like to know why for things, so is there any evidence you can put forth of a why, you know, because I believe in the trying God, so why when Jesus was praying in the garden of Gethsemane did he say if it be your will pass this cup from me, and then I get on the cross, why he asks why have you forsaken me, why is that even important to include, to show his humanity? Yeah, that's part of it. The why have you forsaken me is a quote from Psalm 22 verse 1 where the crucifixion is actually spoken about in that particular verse, and if you read Psalm 22, which is a thousand years B.C., then you can see, oh, he's talking about crucifixion. The forsaking is a poetic kind of a thing to look at because it's dealing with the tragedy and the pain and the suffering that Jesus is going through. So he has two natures, a divine nature and a human nature, and we call this the hypostatic union. So what's going on here is that each nature has a will. This is called diselitism, and yet the two wills are in the one person, and Jesus as a single person has one will. How this works we don't know, but what we do know is that Jesus would say things like I'm thirsty, I'm hungry, I'm tired, because he's manifesting the attributes of humanity. Well, within that we could ask questions, you know, he's on the cross, he doesn't want to go through with the pain. Why wouldn't he?

Because it hurts, it's painful, it's serious, and so this is the natural thing that he's going to be saying because, yeah, it's part of what he has to go through. It's a simplistic kind of a way of looking at it, but there you go, okay? Okay, good enough for me. That helps? Yes sir, thank you so much. You're welcome so much. All right, well God bless. Okay. Bye. Okay, bye. All right, now let's get back to Jamal from North Carolina. Hey Jamal, welcome man, we've got about two minutes or so.

What do you got, man? Okay, I have two questions, I just thought about it right now, so I apologize to the screeners. One of them was about having church at home online versus going to the building, but I want to swap that out for this one. There was a church that had a main pastor who was a male, but they had female, female pastors for other roles like youth ministry and women's ministry and things like that.

Is that acceptable? No, they should not be called pastors because they're not pastors. A pastor is an elder, that's out of 1 Timothy 5.17, 1 Timothy 5.17 talks about the pastors being an elder and Titus chapter 1 and 1 Timothy 3, an elder is to be a husband of one wife, so by default a pastor can only be applied to a male. So to say a woman is a pastor of this and that is a misuse of the biblical term and a failure to understand proper biblical theology. Can she be a director? Of course, can she work like that and do stuff over the kids or whatever it is, maintenance and not, of course, but she should not be addressed as a pastor because she isn't one. And so the problem here is that, oh she's just a pastor of youth ministry or whatever they want to call it, of children's ministry, oh okay, and then someone goes to another church and there's a woman pastor, senior pastor.

Well they had a pastor at that old church, so I guess it's okay, and it gets better. Alright well thank you very much Mr. Slick and God bless you and your family and I'll also be praying for your wife as well and you take care sir. Hey, thanks a lot Jamal, really appreciate it, God bless. Alright, I like his questions, he has good questions, now we're about out of time, there's the music going to start any second and I hope that you enjoyed the show and may the Lord bless you. I just hope He blesses you correctly tonight, I don't know why I said that, but I'm asking for that. And so by His grace we're back on the air tomorrow and hopefully we'll talk to you then. God bless everybody, good night. Good night.