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Yes, I have a question. In Isaiah, it talks about when we get older and our hairs get gray, God will comfort us and take care of us. Well, why is it, I mean, I'm older and I just got out of a rehab and I know lots of people in nursing homes. Why is it they're all suffering so bad? Their hair is gray and they're not being taken care of at all.

They hire convicts, ex-convicts to work in these nursing homes. Yeah. There's a lot of bad stuff that goes on. Well, no, but I want the answer to that scripture. Is it true or it's not? Well, scripture is true in so far as it's intended to be true. We can't take everything it says and say here's a formula and this is something that must always happen every time.

It doesn't work like that. A lot of people make that mistake of thinking that's the case, but it's not. And so it talks about people of Israel will take care of you. And what people will do is they'll say, well, that means everybody.

No, it doesn't. And so it's talking about Israel and the covenant people of Israel and he'll take care of them. And usually it's under conditions. If you are faithful to me, I'll be faithful to you. And a lot of times they're not faithful. And so God doesn't take care of them.

He sends them into bondage, he sends them into persecution because of their unfaithfulness. So we can't take one verse, and if you were to show me which verse it was, I would be able to examine the context and say, well, here's what it means. It's in Isaiah. It's a very familiar verse. It's in Isaiah. It says God will take care of you even when you're old and your hairs are gray, he will comfort you.

Let's see, hairs are, I don't see that, how about gray? G-R, whoops. Even to your old, okay, listen to me, house of Jacob and all the remnant of the house of Israel. This is talking about the nation of Israel. You whom have been born by me from birth and have been carried from the womb, even to your old age, I will be the same. And even to your graying years, I will bear you.

I have done it and I will carry you and I will bear you and I will deliver you. So he's talking about Israel. He's not talking about us. Oh, so other good Christian people languished for years in nursing homes and cry out for mercy. I mean, that's confusing. That's why so many people were agnostic or atheist. Well, hold on, hold on. First of all, what you quoted me or referenced is about national Israel and about God's covenant relationship.

Yeah, I hear you. About his covenant relationship with Israel, not about Christians today. So it's a misapplication. God does not promise that he will take care of you in a nursing home.

We're supposed to do this. There are problems. There are people with sicknesses, with illnesses of varying forms, and God allows it to happen. So if you want to think that it's supposed to be that you're not supposed to be suffering at all in a nursing home, please find me the scripture that says that or implies that, okay? No, I think that there are so many promises that God has for us, but you can't prove them that when you see a lot of bad situations, that's why so many people are agnostic.

Look, I'm old. I know the Bible pretty good. That's why people are agnostic. No, they're agnostic because they rebel against God and they use whatever sinful reason they can to reject him. It's part of their fallen nature. They reject the things of God. They're haters of God. They don't seek for God.

They don't do any good. They're dead in their sins. And they use excuses like this to say this is why God doesn't work. And I ask them, I say, is God obligated then to take care of people in nursing homes? Is he obligated to stop all suffering? And they'll say, well, yes, he is.

Where did you get this? Where do you get off? I ask them, I say, where do you get off saying this is how God ought to be in the world? You want to say, well, God doesn't do what I want him to do, so therefore I'm going to reject him.

That's fine. You reject him and you'll reject his saving offer for your sins as well. And then the judgment of God is upon you.

I deal with this kind of thing all the time from people. And in their arrogance, they want to challenge God as though they have a leg to stand on as far as righteousness goes. So they reject God because of their sinfulness.

Yeah, I don't think he's explained it well. Are you an atheist? I was born a Christian for years. Are you an atheist? Not sure. You're not sure? Okay, so you don't know if God exists or doesn't exist.

Okay. Well then let me ask you, do you believe that there's absolute truth values out there? Do you believe in absolute truth?

I always like to fix the Bible with the inerrant word of God, but as I look around... I ask you a question. I ask you a question.

Do you believe in such things? You don't have to be so arrogant. Excuse me, ma'am, but I've asked you a question. You ignored the question, and then when I say you didn't answer, you call me arrogant. What's wrong with you? Why are you so hostile?

No, I think because you're probably not the best person to ask questions to about the Bible. Okay, thanks. Goodbye. Goodbye.

Wow. Let me tell you, that's interesting because something else happened today that's really interesting. I try and talk to people, and I try and relate with them, and you can tell when they've got their minds made up and they're looking for a fight.

They're looking for something to complain about. When I asked her the question about absolute truth, I had a reason for asking, and she just dismissed it. When I asked the same question of those who doubt God's word, and she's basically an atheist, I would believe. She said she's not sure, but that modeled my experience of being an atheist.

I don't believe in God. So you start asking these questions, and then notice what happened. She went on the attack. I'm like, whoa, excuse me. It's really interesting. Well, I was in this venue today while I was working on a list of questions. I was organizing a bunch of questions, and let's see how many came up with people that have sent questions in. I haven't even hardly added any of them.

I've got 673 to do. So I'm listening in a chat room, and I'm listening to people from the Eastern Orthodox Church talk, and I'm going to tell you, they were arrogant. They were condescending. They were rude. They misrepresented.

I'm a Calvinist, and they misrepresented Calvinism. They were talking down to people. They were talking arrogantly, pridefully.

They were mocking. I listened for an hour while I was working on this file, and I didn't say anything. People started coming in and asking me questions in the chat, and I'd hardly respond.

I'm just there to listen. I did ask one question, and I was attacked for the question. But as I was getting ready for the show, I had to go and stuff like that. Oh, no, this is before that. They shut it down.

But at any rate, before they did, they had to leave and shut down the room. I asked them. I said, Colossians 4, 5, and 6 says, conduct yourself with wisdom and be patient and kind. I quoted a couple of places in Scripture, not to mock, not to do this, not to do that. I said, you guys have just shown me.

I typed it out. As I've been listening, I've seen mockery, condemnation, attacks, misrepresentation. I said, I haven't seen you follow what the Scriptures say to do. They actually started responding to that, and they didn't really have much to say because they knew they were guilty of it. It's just interesting that this lady calls up, and I hope she's still listening, but I think she's just looking for a fight. That's what I was thinking. She's looking to justify her denial of God.

I think that's what it was. I wanted to show her that there was a problem with her position. I'm just going to show it to her politely, but she didn't want anything to do with it.

She, like the EO, Eastern Orthodox people, was very similar that you really can't ask questions in order to hopefully maybe shed some light on something. They are the ones who are right, and you, because you don't agree with them, are not. That's how it is. This kind of thing is increasing here, I've noticed a great deal.

More and more, I'm matching it with what the Scriptures say. I'm not doing it perfectly, but I'm being known or getting to be known as someone who, if you're rude to them, I'll just take off. I'm not going to talk to you. I ask people to be polite. I ask them to be patient, and they don't want to be.

I still blow it, I know, but this is the goal. In 2 Timothy 2, 24, 25, the Lord's bond service must not be quarrelsome, but be kind to all able to teach patient when wrong, with gentleness correcting those who are in opposition. Then Colossians 4, 5 and 6, this is what I said to the Eastern Orthodox people. Conduct yourself with wisdom toward outsiders, making the most of the opportunity.

Let your speech always be with grace, as though seasoned with salt, so that you may know how you should respond to each person. They did not respond to the Scriptures of God's word. I can't help but wonder, why is it the increase within Eastern Orthodoxy, Catholicism, Atheism, Islam, the rudeness and self-righteousness are on the rise?

Because they don't have God in them. Anyway, hey, we'll be right back after these messages. Let's get on with Alex from Florida. Hey, Alex, welcome.

You're on the air? Look who's back. Oh, man.

You know, we're supposed to have a filter on for incompetent, but you got through anyway, so what do you got, buddy? Okay. Well, first I want to say before I get my question, I want to plead with your listeners to support the matching funds ride this month.

Me and my wife helped out, you got the donor who's matching. You know, CARM, you guys are defending the faith. You've been doing it for almost, what, four decades now, right?

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You know, everything's been matched, and they could really use it right now. I just wanted to get that out of the way. But you tell them, I didn't put you up to this, you know. No, no. You didn't put me up to it.

I said on the radio, I tweeted it because I've learned a lot. He's a good brother, and he's got his quirks, he's got his flaws, he's imperfect like all of us. What? What are you saying? Man. You know, sometimes, I don't know, Alex, I don't know, man.

I'll still be your friend, but boy, with that, I don't know. Just don't tell my wife you said that. You defend God's will, you know. That's good. Just don't call my wife up and you say that.

She'll go, amen. That's right. So, yeah.

So, my question is, I ran into some Church of God people last night. Oh, okay. Oh, yeah. It was interesting. Send me that on the phone, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

It was wild. We were talking about the resurrection. So, they deny that Jesus has been a physical body at the right hand of the Father. So, they deny that. And they can't be Christians. Yeah, no, they're not.

They're in a non-Christian cult, and I told them that at one point, you know, it got to that. So, my question is, I was thinking about this. Where is Jesus, so after he was resurrected, before he appeared to Mary, where was he? Was he in heaven? In the physical body? All I can do is give you the theory that seems to be supported by Scripture. It seems to be.

Okay. And the idea is that during the state between his death and physical resurrection, it looks like, and I'll read it to you here. It goes to Ephesians 4.

I think it starts in verse 8. It says, therefore, it says, when he ascended on high, he led captive a host of captives, and he gave gifts to men. And so, some think, well, he ascended on high and led captive a host of captives.

So, here's one of the theories. Before Christ died, people would die in faith, but they couldn't go to heaven because the sacrifice of Christ had not yet been offered. So, they were in a holding place, paradise. And this is spoken of by Jesus in Luke 16, 19 through 32, 31.

Okay, sorry about that. And so, you have Lazarus and the rich man. The rich man's in Abraham's bosom, which is related to paradise. And the rich man tradition says his name is Diocese.

That's just worthless trivia. He was in a bad place. So, one of the theories is that people who died before the crucifixion of Christ, where that had occurred, went to this holding place. And after the death of Christ, he went and made proclamation to the spirits. Now, that is found in, let's see, 1 Peter 3, 18 and 19. For Christ also died once for all, the just for the unjust, so that he might bring us to God, having been put to death in the flesh, but made alive in the spirit, in which he also made and went and made proclamation to the spirits now imprisoned, wow, in prison, who were once disobedient when the patience of God waiting in the days of Noah. Now, I don't really think that pericope really matches the theory, but this is one of the areas people go to when they talk about this. They say, you know, he went and made proclamation to the spirits now in prison.

Well, does it mean the good or does it mean the bad also? So, one of the theories is that he went to the bad place and says, this is why you guys are in trouble, and the good place that said, come with me, went up to heaven with them and then reentered his body in the resurrection. That's one of the theories.

Okay, okay. So now, if that's one of the theories, if his body wasn't found in the tomb and he's in a physical body now, was he in a physical body in that state, in that theory? No. Would you say that that's the case?

No. No, because his physical body was dead and he was separate from his physical body, though still human. Okay, so during that period, it was separate, and then when did he get the physical body back? When he resurrected.

Okay, so that was my question. So, when he resurrected, he had the physical body right after the resurrection, right after the three days. He had the physical body. Well, his body was in the grave and had holes in it, and it was the body that had died and that he died in. And so, at that point, what happened upon his resurrection is that the body was then glorified.

There was a change that occurred to it. And this is talked about in I Corinthians 15, 35-45, and the glorified body. So he's the first fruits of creation. He's the first one to have the glorified body.

And that's the, so to speak, down payment proof that we will have the same thing happen to us. Okay. So, here's another question. So, when he had the glorified body, did he go to heaven first and then come and appear to the disciples, or was he on the earth still with the glorified body, continuing as he appeared to the disciples? Well, that one I'm going to have to, I'd have to study because, just to do a chronology thing, because at his resurrection, the women were there at the tomb and they saw him. Does it mean then that there was, you know, say a five hour period of time between that and his next appearance of somebody? Did he go up to heaven in that five hour period of time and come back?

These are logical possibilities. Is it possible that he could have been in the grave resurrected before he walked out and left or moved? Apparently, he just appeared in a room, you know, in John 20 with the disciples. Just there he was. People say he walked through walls.

Don't say that. It doesn't say he walked through walls. It just says, and he appeared. So, if he seems to have had the ability to be able to just at will move here and there, which I'm hoping is what happens to us as well. And so, within logical possibility, could it be that he went up to heaven and did some stuff and then came back? It's logically possible. Did he do it?

That's the question. And we don't know. So, there was a 40 day period where he was ministering to people after his resurrection. Could he have gone to heaven logically? We can't say no, but we can't assert that it was.

So, we don't know, but it's a possibility and we're just ignorant about that. Okay. But when I talk to the cult, I should just assume after the resurrection he had a glorified body. Of course.

Absolutely. Okay. Without that resurrected body, then there is no resurrection. Now, a resuscitation is different because with Lazarus in John 11, he resuscitated him.

It wasn't resurrected in the glorified body, which is what Jesus has. Okay? Okay. I got one more question. You got more questions? Can I hold?

No, you can't. Hold on, buddy. All right. That's Alex in Florida. He's a good guy.

I cheese him. And if you want to call, we have three open lines. 877-207-2276. We'll be right back. Here's Matt Slick live, taking your calls at 877-207-2276.

Here's Matt Slick. All right. Welcome back to the show, Alex. Hey, buddy. You still there? Yeah. I'm still here.

All right, man. So, first, to change topics with these Church of God guys that I was talking to, 1 Corinthians 5, 6-8. They were using this, basically they trust in so many words, like baptism, taking Passover. They have really a problem with saying the word communion for some reason. They think it's a man-made thing, just like Trinity and stuff like that.

That's a cult, yeah. But, so, yeah, they were taking 1 Corinthians 5, 6-8, and they were talking about the Passover and how we need to keep the Passover in order to have salvation. And so, one question I had was, did the early church celebrate Passover? Well, yeah, as communion, because communion occurred on Passover. When Jesus was crucified, it was Passover meal.

So communion is that, it's a replacement of Passover, so, yeah. Yeah, okay. See, that's what I was saying to them, but, man, they're so deceived. They also believe in the God the Mother stuff, that's just, I mean, it was, I left the gym and they cornered me, invited me to their service, and the gospel, but, so, yeah, well, no, so it's a Zoom thing. I'll send you the link, and they said you can ask a question. The questions I like to ask of groups like that is, are all of your sins forgiven right now? Yeah, that's a great question. It is.

It's throwing a monkey wrench in there. And I'll, you know, and the Eastern Orthodox don't like it, I've discovered this recently, the past couple of weeks I've been using this question, EO, Catholics, Muslims, they don't like the question, they attack you for asking it, which is interesting. So it's a good question to ask them as well, you know, send me the link, and maybe go on again or there, we'll check it out and see what happens.

Yeah, I'll send you the link. When you started using that question, how are your sins forgiven or are your sins forgiven right now? I've been using that a lot more in the Van Gogh. Are all of your sins forgiven right now?

It's a little bit of an open-ended question, all, I mean, up to this point in the past, all present and past, or any future, and you have a discussion, but at any rate, yeah. Yeah, that's good, that's a good one. Hey, can I plug my ministry? Sure. All right, if you guys want to pray for us or support us, you guys can visit vesselsforchrist.org. We work with missionaries and pastors in Belize, Myanmar, and India, so come check us out. The CARM prayer team has been praying for us for a couple of years now, and we can use your prayers or support, just like my brother Matt here, and, you know, we're just trying to do the Lord's work and spread the Gospel, and got a lot of opposition coming in against us, but we just keep fighting and fighting, and, you know, take to heaven, or take heaven by force, you know, just like the verse, the verse of violence, yeah, take to heaven by force. So if you guys want to support us, then just pray for us, pray for CARM, and really we could use it, because there's a lot of oppression these days, and a lot of opposition that a lot of people wouldn't even understand, to be honest.

That's right, and it's going to get worse, which is all the more reason to preach the Gospel more, because when sin abounds, grace abounds all the more. So there you go. All right, buddy. Amen. All right. See you, brother. Okay, God bless.

All right. Let's just jump over to Ryan from Utah. Hey, Ryan, welcome. You're on the air.

Hey, Matt. Thanks for taking my call. Sure. So earlier this week, I think I caught the tail end of a conversation when I popped on your show, on the radio, of course, and it sounded at the time like you were kind of denouncing a little bit other people for following their feelings, and you specifically mentioned members of the Mormon Church.

I happen to be part of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and it seemed like it might have... That's why I'm calling. So why don't you just clarify... You broke up for a second. It seemed a little hypocritical. Sorry. Go ahead. Sorry. You broke up, and I'll just... Can you hear me? Yeah. Yeah, we'll work with it. Go ahead.

I'm sorry. It seemed a little hypocritical. A couple of years ago, you shared your conversion story, which was amazing, by the way, and I appreciate that. And so I was just wondering if you could clarify if you were kind of denouncing other people for kind of following their feelings and their experiences like that, when it seemed like obviously you had a very special experience of your own. Yeah, I even check that incredible experience with Scripture. I don't trust my feelings. I don't trust it. I submit it to the Word of God, and as long as it agrees with the Word of God, then I'll affirm it.

And so the presence of Christ, the forgiveness, et cetera. Mormons don't do that. You submit, no disrespect.

I do. No, you don't. Because you do what is ungodly. You do what's ungodly. You serve a false god and have a false gospel. And you pray about truth to see if you get a feeling about truth. God never says to do that. Never says to do that. The Word of God is true because it's true.

You don't pray about a book to see if it's true, as Mormonism says. So it's a form of idolatry. Interesting take on that. I'd like talking to you, but it's interesting because every little conversation, you're so good. That could be an hour-long conversation. Yeah. Well, you can talk.

Take your brain for that. Well, it's just funny. I mean, every time that I have a talk with you, I totally disagree with what you're saying. And I know you have, in the past, you've mowed me down with 20 Scriptures that I can't even have time to...

I'm actually driving right now, so trying to read words to that is almost impossible. Yeah, I agree. But yeah. But I've been studying this for so long, and I've studied Mormonism off and on for decades and stuff. As have I, yeah.

And Mormonism is logically impossible. It can't be. So let me ask you a question. Oh, totally not.

Oh, yeah. Let me show you. But let me set you up, okay?

Let me set you up first. You know I'm not against you. You know I'm not trying to hurt you. Oh, no, no. Okay.

No, I totally know that. I don't take it personally. I appreciate this. But I do believe that you're doing good work, that you're trying to unify people. And that's good.

Having good conversations is why I listen, so... Okay. Yeah, go ahead. All right, so if something can't be true, should you believe in it? All your questions are so loaded. It cannot be true. Oh, it is. Well, here's the thing.

You know I'm setting you up. I know from logic and from the Bible that what I believe is true is that you're interpreting things differently. I didn't ask that. Like every scripture can be pulled up for whether it's the... Okay, go ahead. I asked, if something cannot be true, should you believe in it? That's what the question was. Well, how would you determine if something could not be true?

Well, two plus two is 8.375. It cannot be true, so you should not believe it's true, correct? Yeah, this is going to be a rabbit hole where I'm going to get nowhere, and you're not going to change me. I'm not going to change you. So I love you, appreciate you. I'm going to take off now.

I'll show you. Okay. All right. So, what I was going to do before the break here is talk about the Mormon god concept, and I'll show you why it's impossible and it can't work. Hopefully I can get this across. In Mormonism, their god came from another planet who was exalted by the god from another planet and was exalted by a god before that, exalted by a god before that, exalted by a god before that.

All right. So this means then that the further back in time you go, the less gods there are. That's the logic that's necessary. The further back you go, the less gods there are. So think of a pyramid, you know, laying down, a triangle laying down on a surface, and as you move forward, it's coming to a point in the future, because this is logically necessary because as we move in Mormon theology, as you move now into the future, there's more gods, because there could be, you know, hundreds of gods that come from our planet that go in Mormon theology, that go off to be gods of their own worlds, and then they start the process again.

So this triangle idea, as you turn around and you go into the future, it's broadening. As you look, it's broadening more gods, more gods, more gods. So picture yourself standing in these two lines that start at one point, and they're moving away from each other, and the further you go out as they move out, the more gods there are. Well, that means when you turn around and you walk back towards the less gods, because that's what the past would necessitate, if there's less gods, then as this continues, there has to be a point where it started by one.

This would be a logical necessity. Now, the problem is that if there's only one god that started it, according to Mormonism, he has to be exalted by another god, but he can't, because there is no previous god, and so therefore, it's a logical impossibility from this scenario. One of the things that Mormonism also teaches is the intelligences, and I've had different discussions, and I can't find out what the exact definition of all of this is, or how many there are in Mormonism, because they don't know, because there's logical impossibilities with it. And the intelligences, I've heard some say, innumerable, infinite, but that's not possible, and that they inhabit human bodies, and how is that possible if Mormonism's true? You can't have it both be true and also not the case that it's true. And then that brings up the issue of logic, which requires a single, unchanging mind. That's a whole other thing.

And you can prove Mormonism's false just by using logic and common sense, and that's one of the ways, hey, there's the music. We'll be right back after these messages. Please stay tuned. It's Matt Slick live, taking your calls at 877-207-2276. This is Matt Slick.

Hey, everybody. Welcome back to the show. If you want to give me a call, 877-207-2276, just want to let you know that we stay on the air by your support. Please consider supporting us.

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You're on the air. Thank you. Actually, after you now spoke about the Mormons, would you mind if I changed the question?

Sure, go ahead, it's all right. My understanding is that the Mormons believe that Quetzalcoatl was Jesus, and to me, it appears that Quetzalcoatl is more like Lucifer. Well, Quetzalcoatl, yeah, I would agree. There's some similarities and some stuff, and they'll say that he went and appeared to the Americas, I think it was the Incas, and that's what Quetzalcoatl is, and had blonde hair, or light hair, blonde hair, which I say, see, that's Jesus, Jesus doesn't have blonde hair. And so all they're doing is imposing what's called ethnocentricity, an ethnocentric view on Christ, because he's going to be like us, he's going to have white skin. He's obviously Jesus Caucasian, he wasn't nigroid, or what we call mongoloid, and what people don't understand is, a lot of people don't. There's three main races, they say, the Caucasoid, the mongoloid, the nigroid, and the mongoloid are the Asians, nigroids are African, and then the Caucasians, Caucasoid. So that's why I say, don't trust a blonde hair, blonde hair, Caucasian surfer Jesus, because that's not what he was like. He looked a little bit darker than us, and it seems to be the case, but nevertheless. So the Mormons have been guilty of just imposing a ethnocentric view of who Christ is. When you go to the temple square and you look in their buildings, you look in their stuff, he's got blond hair, blue eyes, or sandy blonde hair, blue eyes, really nice looking feminine, et cetera, et cetera. And so they said, well, let's transfer that over to Quetzalcoatl, who has some resemblance, and they say, see, that's him. And that's what's, you know, it's bad news.

Well, I think that the indigenous accounts actually describe them though as being rather fair in color and appearance. Who? Jesus? Quetzalcoatl. Yeah, Quetzalcoatl, right, yeah, okay.

Yeah, and that's just it. Still fair-haired, Jesus wasn't, we can't say he wasn't, but he was from the Semitic line, you know, the Jews. How many Jews have you seen on TV and movies or, you know, Jewish nations are blond-haired, blue-eyed? This doesn't happen, okay, because they came out of the one father, Abraham, and he was from the Ur of the Chaldees.

And so the genetics doesn't fit that blond-haired, it's not to say that they couldn't have had a mutation, which is what some people think blond-haired, blue-eyes is, and it just became favorable in some contexts and some areas. We won't get into all this stuff, but all they're doing is just saying that, that is that. And, you know, Quetzalcoatl is the serpent, if I understand, the feathered serpent deity. You know, it's a serpent god.

And so if they want to say it was Quetzalcoatl, you know, it gets tiring, fatiguing, doing everybody's homework for them. And the Mormons are a good example, they don't research this stuff, they just believe whatever they're told, and the Bible says, when the blind lead the blind, they both fall into the pit and perish. I actually think that they did some research, but it was of a counterpoint, you know, to our view, and that it was much more Luciferian. Yeah, well, there's a lot, there's a lot in Mormonism that people don't know. Someone brought up a point about the Mormon temple ceremony, and I'm not going to say anything what it is, except to say that in it, Satan does a lot of the teaching in the Mormon temple ceremony.

Someone pointed that out to me once, and you can go online and you can get the temple ceremony transcribed and the scenarios you can get it, and it's amazing how much Satan does the teaching in their own ceremony. And, now this I will say, that the Mormons go in, they're given a green fig leaf apron that they don't wear until they're told to put it on later. And it occurs after, I believe it was Adam who asked Satan in a certain scene, what's that apron you're wearing?

And it's a dark, very dark fig leaf apron, the same pattern, just a different color. And he says, it's a symbol of my priesthood, my power. And then the film stops. I was told this, okay, film stops, the Mormons are told to put on their aprons, which should scare the crud out of you. And I've heard, as people have told me about this, that a lot of Mormons, when they're done with that ceremony, they walk out and they leave Mormonism, they don't go back to the church, they're done.

It happens a lot, I've been told. So all non-Christian religions are ultimately demonically inspired. Mormonism, Eastern Orthodoxy, Islam, Roman Catholicism, some of these groups originated out of the truth and then deviated because they refused to put the word of God, which represents God's character and his truth. They took the word of God in the scriptures and then cast doubt on them, just like Satan did with Eve in Genesis 3, 31. Did God really say? The principle of doubting God's word.

And people do it in different ways. The Bible is correct insofar as correctly translated, you know, the eighth article of the Mormon Church. Or in Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy, you can't interpret the Bible on your own. You need the authority of the magisterium to tell you. Or Islam, the Bible's been corrupted, even though the Quran never says it's corrupted.

It's quite the contrary, surah 33, 1094. And so you get these things that happen like this, where people will do this and are open to deception. And so ultimately, this is the enemy who, in Genesis 3, 1, is the author of doubting God's word and then the author of contradicting God's word. And so all these false religions who don't hold the word of God in its rightful, ultimate place as our final authority that God has provided for us here on earth, then they're open to being deceived. And what they'll do then is don't realize that Satan goes around prowling on whom he'll devour as an angel of light. He can make you feel good about what it is you believe. God from another planet, you can become God with your own handshakes, as Mormonism teaches. Or the Jehovah's Witness organization, that you maintain your salvation by obedience to the commandments, as the Watchtower teaches in 1983.

Age 12, it does. And so Islam, Surah 23, 102, 103, talks about if your good deeds outweigh your bad deeds, you can get salvation, your sins forgiven, hopefully. And this is what religions teach. Mormonism says, for example, in 2 Nephi 25, 23, that you're saved by grace through faith after all you can do.

All false religions, because they doubt the place of God's authority in his word, then subject it to their prophets, their prophetesses, their magisteriums, and their own private interpretations. This is what happens. Anyway, you got me going there, that's what's going on though. Well you know, I've been doing this for so long that I started seeing the commonalities long, many years ago. And I could just tell you, this is how they do these, these are the similar things. Sometimes what I'll do is, depending on which group I'm talking to, I'll quote a different group and what they teach about salvation. And they'll go, yeah, that's what it is, that's what we teach. And they don't realize what I'm doing is quoting the Quran to the Mormons.

Or they don't realize it. Or the Book of Mormon to the Muslims or the Jehovah's Witnesses or the Catholics. And they go, yeah, it sounds good to me. And one of the ones I'm trying to memorize, I've just got me going here, just kind of rambling, but is with the Jehovah's Witnesses. I need to memorize this because I'm starting to use it more and more. And like I asked an Eastern Orthodox guy, a Catholic guy, he says, well, do you believe it in order to have salvation, you have to obey God's laws, conform your life to the moral requirements that are in the Bible, and that you have to refrain from a debauched immoral way of life.

And they go, of course you do. That's how you get salvation. I said, good, that's the Watchtower, February 15th, 1983, page 12. And this is what happens because- For a second, I thought you were quoting, what was it, Sabatini, what was his name?

The 1666 guy, was it Sabatini? Oh, I don't know what that is, but there's a lot of people through history who teach this because it's man-made religion. Man-made religion reduces God's omniscience, omnipresence, and the power of the word, and the power of God to preserve his own word.

And then they say, it's not authoritative, it's not authentic. We are going to be the ones who restore and tell you what God really meant. This is all utterly demonic, and they don't realize it.

Now, they're not directly serving Satan on purpose, but they are deceived. That's why Jesus says in Matthew 7, few people, few make it, few, that's what he says. And he says this, oh, let's see, there are few words right there. Could I ask you one other question real quick? Sure. Callers are waiting almost out of time, but go ahead. Let you go to the next caller. Thank you very much. Take care. Call back tomorrow. Okay. Call back tomorrow then. All right. Okay. Thank you. God bless. And it's Matthew 7, 14, for the gate is small, and the way is narrow that leads to life, and there are few who find it. Why?

Because they don't submit themselves to the word of God. That simple. All right. So the next caller, as long as waiting, that would be Rachel from Utah. Rachel, welcome. You're on the air. Thanks for taking my call.

I really appreciate it. Sure. Sure.

Brief question. Someone has posted something, and it sparked this question, wondering if Christ washed the feet of Judah, knowing he was a traitor. Looks like he did, yes, out of John 13. Wow.

So this is on me to swallow, as this girl was trying to explain to me on mine. How it's provoked it is she posted this picture online, and it showed Christ washing Biden's feet, Christ washing Mussolini's feet, and it just didn't sit well with me, but maybe that's on me. I was like, no way is the Lord. And her comment was, you know, we've got to wash the feet of all these sinners. And I don't know why, in my mind, it just didn't seem right to that picture that these people aren't humble or submissive, you know, I understand the Lord serves as submissive, but I don't know, it just didn't sit right with me.

She said, well, look, he's washed Judah's feet, he's going to wash all the sinners' feet. We're out of time. Can you call back tomorrow and let's talk about that, because there's context and some information we need to look at as well. Okay? Okay. Okay.

We'll talk about it, okay? Thanks. All right.

That's a very good question. All right. God bless. Sorry about that.

And Monique from Greensboro. You waited a long time too. Sorry about that. May the Lord bless you all and by his grace, we'll be back on here tomorrow and we'll talk to you then. God bless. We'll be back tomorrow and we'll talk to you again tomorrow and we'll talk to you again