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This is simple stuff. The problem with it is that if you preach it, that's going to make people uncomfortable. You mean go door to door? Maybe. You mean get to politics? Maybe.

Being nice to your neighbor? Yeah. It could be whatever it is. God works it, filters it down to different people at different levels, at different situations. But it's scary and it means to trust in God beyond our ability to understand. And that's what we've got to do. That's what we should be doing.

I agree with you totally there, Matt. It's very much the same. The difference being, we're seeing this huge divide between Canada and the U.S. right now. I can say safely in the U.S. you have a right, political right, and you have a political left.

In Canada, I can't start to say that. We have a left and we have a little bit left. Not so far left, a little farther left, and a little farther left. That's really where it is.

The Christians need to get organized. Sorry, I interrupted you because I was impatient. Not with you, but because the situation gets me. So go ahead, go ahead.

I've got to be patient here. It just gets me. I'm with you.

It gets me too. But I think here in Canada we've gone so far, maybe we've been complacent as the church for way too long. Even the church has become so far off to the left that I know the big thing with churches with given pastors, that's a good indication of the state of the church. I agree with you totally on that. How many churches here in our city of a million people are there that would agree with that simple place?

I would say I don't know. That women are not to be pastors and elders? Most of the mainstream, all the Baptist churches in the area are pretty well okay with that.

They're unbiblical. So it's a very small number. It's a short number. It's just a tough thing in terms of people in politics that I would say are at least godly people.

I've got more fingers. Yeah, I know. It's bad.

Even though it's gone so far here in Canada, I just wonder whether it's over the fault. Well, here's the thing. God has his ways of being able to deliver people. He's not dumb.

He's capable. Just because it might appear to be a lost cause in your country and becoming that in our country, it doesn't mean God can't raise up people, hasn't already been raising up people to do incredible and mighty things. And if Christians knew this and Christians believed it and Christians would get off their lazy rears and start doing what's necessary, I believe that there needs to be a national organization of religious leaders in America and that it's opened up to people supporting it financially so that they can institute lawsuits against people and organize groups for petitioning, not for rioting, but for public gatherings and withholding of signs. And I think that we should do such things as peacefully as possible. Like say, for example, the first day of, let's say, let's pick September or October.

You know, whatever. October 1st on a Monday, the first Monday of October, everybody with a last name that starts with an A goes to the capital. Or if they're not too close to the capital in their state, goes to an alternate designated area with signs. We want our government back. We want our culture back. We want this back. And then the next day, people's names will start with a B.

And we start doing this all over the country. Organization means something. The left, these wackos who the leftists and the commies, the antifa, they're organized.

The homosexuals, they are organized. And so they are able to influence. The Christians don't want to get organized. They don't want to be responsible in their Christianity.

And we need to. Yeah, it's that and the combination of that I think was during the church do not even understand the foundation of what they're standing on. Like in terms of Canada and our political prisoners, which we have and have had, right? I'm not sure how much of it actually gets out of the country, but for the individuals that have been locked up in jail, including pastors. Are there pastors in jail in your country? Not at present, but up on charges. And were the charges based on, where are the charges? Like as in, they had a church service? That kind of thing? No, the way the government come around, they're basically based off of health orders.

So the way the government has done it in our province here is they've used court orders and then by making basically like they told our pastor, you're not allowed to leave your church until, you know. Hey, we've got to go. There's a break. Sorry about that. Call back again. We need to talk about this, okay buddy?

Hey, we've got to go. Hey folks, we have three open lines, 877-207-2276. Be right back.

... ... It's Matt Slick live, taking your calls at 877-207-2276. Here's Matt Slick. Alright everyone, welcome back to the show. We have three open lines. If you want to give me a call, all you've got to do is dial 877-207-2276.

We lost that person about women being silent in the church. Call back. We can talk about that. Let's get to Nate from North Carolina. Nate, welcome. You're on the air. Hey man, how you doing? Doing alright.

Hanging in there. I've listened to you every day for the last two years, I guess, and the issue has come up to me in my church. We have three elders, two pastors, and two evangelists in our pulpit. And they're women. I can't get them to understand what the word Titus means. That's because they're full of pride. Oh, they're not going to sit down.

They're doing everything to try to get me out of there. They're prideful. They have pride. Because they do not want to humble themselves before God's word and obey God's word, therefore they are prideful and they are not going to listen. And you need to go to the congregation, get others, get some men in there who know what the truth is, and you approach them.

And they need to be rebuked politely and lovingly with respect. And I would be glad to coach any of your men. You get them together in a group. We'll have a phone call. Put me on speaker. We'll go through and talk.

We'll talk about what you guys can do and how you ought to do what's right before the congregation before God. Oh. Yeah. That sounds good. I'm serious.

That's definitely good. I have a website. I'm sorry? I'll just email you.

You can email me at info at karm.org and I would be glad to coach you over the air, over the air, over the phone. And they also take up where they... They what? Oh, you're breaking up. You're breaking up.

You're breaking up. Okay, say it again. I want to hear.

I got the radio down. Okay. I can't understand you. I'm sorry. Say it again. Okay.

Go ahead. They take the scripture where Jesus said in the word that in the last days that his spirit upon all flesh, you know, men see visions, old men, and young men prophesy. They take that as saying women should preach.

But God gave man dominion even from the Garden of Eden. Well, what they're doing is they take that verse out of context because what it's talking about there is the fulfillment of the arrival of the Holy Spirit which is prophesied as being poured. And it's the movement that God has upon the church. And the arrival of the Holy Spirit, the pouring of the Holy Spirit is manifested in the charismatic gifts.

This is what the context is. Also in Acts 10, 44-48, people are speaking in tongues because the Holy Spirit had been poured out upon them, the Gentiles as well as the Jews. So there was this movement of the power of the Holy Spirit. I'm a Calvinist and I believe this stuff.

So it's there. It has nothing to do with women pastors and elders because Paul the Apostle says in 1 Timothy 3.15, he's giving instructions on how to behave in the household of God the church, but the previous chapter he says women are not to be pastors and elders, not to be in positions of authority over men because Adam was first created. So these women who misuse that verse and take that verse out of context to exalt themselves and to hold themselves in a place of power and authority are prideful in rebelling against God. They need to be rebuked.

Flat out. Okay, I would be glad to help you if you can get men in your church and if there's women who agree with their husbands, and even if they're not married, but you know, then they get together and you start praying because what you need to do is prepare to confront the false teaching and the false positions that these women are having. And we can talk about what to do. The first thing you've got to do is gather people together and you've got to be in prayer. I'd be glad to coach you on the truth of all of this stuff. And then what I can do is help you prepare a document, a writing, to give to them that you also give them first once they refuse it, then you go to the church, you go to the body of Christ and you show this. And I would be glad, glad any time you put this information on, you know, after the female pastors reject the truth of God's word, then you go to the congregation to even have a meeting in a congregation where I'll come online on the phones, we can have a meeting visually, they can fire questions, we can go at it, and we can talk about what it means to follow the word of God. I will help you.

I will help you. I believe in this. Yeah. It's the word of God. Amen.

So I'm serious brother. Nate, you know what your name comes from and what it means in Hebrew? It means to give. It comes from on to give. And so I think it's interesting your name is to give.

And so it means other centered and so this is a good thing. And plus you recognize this is a serious issue. Now let me ask you, are you married by any chance? I'm divorced. I've been divorced four years.

I live by myself. I live according to the word. And I'm one of the ministers. They've moved me down now. I'm ordained, but they moved me from elder to minister.

Because look, the sword cuts both ways. And so with the men, we've got to make sure that you're qualified to even be in that position having been divorced. Because there are issues. And so you may not be qualified to be a minister, you may be.

It just depends on what the issues and circumstances are. But I'm not married no more and I don't live according to the word. I don't do things on to the flesh. We can talk about that another time. But we need to understand that the pulpit needs to be revered. The pulpit needs to be revered and uplifted. And so when I get to preach, which isn't very often because I'm not a pastor anymore, but when I do get the privilege of preaching, I love to preach, but I also don't like it. And people be leaving out while you preach because they can't stand it.

Oh that happens, yeah. But the thing is I take it so seriously that in order to get to that place of the pulpit, just physically walk up, I have to have prayed beforehand, confess my sins when they're worshiping before the sermon. I'm talking to my Lord, I'm asking for cleansing because I'm going to go preach the word of God to his people. I take it very, very seriously.

And this is what needs to happen. The people who hear the word of God need to know that the preaching of that word of God is dead serious and it's out of the word of God. If they're going to have women pastors and elders doing that in contradiction of the scriptures, you can't trust what they say. And they couldn't execute their way out of a wet paper bag.

I thought you were telling me what they said. That's true. And it's everywhere. I mean if I leave here, it's still everywhere. It is everywhere. It's part of the apostasy.

It's part of the apostasy. That's right. And I'm going to offer this one more time. I know there's people out there in the Carolinas and Georgia and Virginia and all that stuff. I'm here in Idaho.

That's on the west coast area. I will be glad to fly out there and have a teaching time, debate time with anybody out there about this issue. I've been offering this for 17 years of radio. I've not had a single person take me up on it in 17 years. I will debate it and teach it. Yeah, they won't because they know what the Bible says and they know what the Bible says and they refuse what the Bible says.

I'd be glad to come out there and teach on this and hold a seminar on it with love and with compassion. But men don't get up. Because we have to get back to our first love, you know. Jesus Christ and Him crucified. But the men, the men got to stand up. The men have got to do this.

I don't know. There's nobody out there but the bishop and myself, the rest of them women. Yeah, well the men aren't doing their jobs. The men, come on man, you've got to get up.

Adam and Eve in the garden, she sinned first, they're both hiding and the pre-incarnate Jesus came and said to the man, where are you? It's the men's responsibility first. And so this is why I talk like that.

I want men to be men. You know? Alright then, I'm going to be working on that too. You email me and if I don't respond, you call me up in a few days, whatever it is to him, the guy, blah blah blah, and I'll go, yeah, okay, gotcha. Alright? Alright, thank you man. Alright man, God bless.

Bye bye. It's a serious issue. I should teach on why it's a serious issue. I should do a show on it or a video on it or something. Why it's so stinking serious.

And it is serious. Let's get to Anonymous from North Carolina. Welcome. You're on the air. Hello? You're on the air.

Okay, we've got a break coming up pretty quickly, but what do you got? Hello? Can you hear me?

Yes I can. With what's coming, with what you're talking about first. There's the break. Could you hold on please? I apologize, but can you hold on because we've got the break right there. I've got to go. We'll be right back to you after the message. Hey folks, please stay tuned. Three open lines, 877-207-2276. We'll be right back. ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...