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It's so obvious. I had a debate last night. I had a debate on limited atonement. And if you watched it and you want to make any comments, please call up. Feel free to give me a call and we can talk.

I'd love to hear from you about that. I thought it went well. I was very polite.

And the guy's a Christian. He just didn't agree with me on that view. And that's okay. That's all right. And so what I did was I just did what I thought was biblical.

And he did what he thought was biblical. It was cordial. It was very comfortable. And I hope that if you watched it, you enjoyed it.

And please, give me a call if you want. And what's interesting is I've been watching. I kind of reviewed it a little bit and watched a text that people will text in. And I'm telling you, there are so many haters out there. They're just full of hatred and ignorance. And they're supposed to be Christians.

And they're full of mockery and condemnation. And I want to tell you something. When I was talking to my old professor, a seminary professor today, about something. Let's see if I can find this. Love.

Yes. And this is a verse that Jesus said. I'm going to go to Matthew 24, 12 here. It's a verse that I thought was really interesting because what happened is that they asked him when were the signs of the end and things like that. And he gives a list of issues. And he says, because lawlessness is increased, most people's love will grow cold.

Most people's love will grow cold. And I'm sitting here thinking about that. And I told my professor, my old professor, he's a great guy. And I said, I used to think that was about unbelievers.

And now I'm starting to think more and more it's about believers. And then he responded with something very interesting. He said, he goes, you know, that he's got neighbors. And that he's surprised to find out that sometimes his atheist neighbors will treat him better than his Christian brethren.

And I know that one. And I know that it is the case. I know that Christians are getting tough. And I told him, I said, maybe it's because of the work I do and get into the controversial topics. And a lot of Christians come out and just are full of hatred.

In fact, after the show last night, after the debate, we did an after show. And some guys come in and they start telling me about how they don't sin anymore. And one guy brought me to a verse, John 834, where Jesus says, if you commit sin, you're the slave of sin. And he said, see, you commit sin.

I go, well, yeah, occasionally. He goes, look, you're the slave of sin then. And I'm like, wait, wait, wait. The Greek says here, it's a participial form.

Those who were practicing and continuing in it. And he said, I'm not interested in the Greek. I'm interested in what it actually says. The idiocy was just incredible.

And the lack of love, the lack of compassion, these are for people who post a follow Christ. Anyway, I'm just commenting. I think it's interesting.

I think it's really spectacularly interesting. In fact, this one guy got on and in the after show and I was talking to him. He said that he doesn't sin anymore. And I said, do you keep the law on the level of Jesus? He said, yes.

Wow. And then I was pressing him on something else. And I said, so one thing led to another. And he actually said, if I lie, it's not a sin.

And I go, what? So if you lie, if you actually commit, you lie, it's OK. It's not a sin. You go, that's right. It's not a sin. We're done.

I just kick him out. So this is the kind of stuff that I had to deal with last night from these so-called Christians. But anyway, there you go. I want to just give you a heads up. Hey, I want to hear from you.

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Remember, we're doing a matching year end of funds drive. And I've got some more stuff to talk about, but we'll get to the caller. Let's get to Erin from North Carolina. Erin, welcome. You're on the air. Hey.

Thank you. I'm excited. Oh, good.

At least nobody is. So my question for you is, yeah. My question for you is, is it wrong for women to be deacons in the church? Yes. Mm-hmm. OK. Simple enough. OK. And let me show you why.

I have a. Let me show you why. OK. I'm going to go to, let's see. Here we go.

All right. Now, this is in 1 Timothy 3. So what I'm going to do is read what the word of God says. And people are going to maybe be a little bit surprised by it. But I've got to read the whole thing here so you can see what's going on in others who are responding. Say, wait a minute. That can't be true.

But it is true. This is 1 Timothy 3, 2. An overseer, that's a Greek word episkopos, which we get the word bishop. An overseer then must be above reproach the husband of one wife. The husband of one wife.

That's what it says. And a woman can't be that. And it goes on and says down in verse 8, it says deacons likewise must be men of dignity, not double minded or addicted to wine, et cetera.

These men must first also be tested. Deacons must be husbands of only one wife. So that's verse 12 of Titus chapter 1 Timothy 3. And so that's it. That's it. That's what it says right there. Great.

Thank you. And because it says that, then that's what we got. So I'm in a church. Women are deacons. I'm not a deacon. But there are women who hold that position. If you were in that position, would you even be in a church to have women deacons?

No. So what I would do is I would go to the pastor and the elders and say, look what it says here in 1 Timothy 3. And I'd say for the elders. I'd go to the elders first. What I would do is this.

I'd set them up because I don't want them to react too quickly and then get their dander up. But it says, let's see. Yes. Titus 1 verse 5, for this reason I left you in Crete. This is Paul talking to Titus.

That you would set in order what remains and appoint elders in every city as I directed you. Namely, if a man is above approach. The husband of one wife. Now that's aner in Greek.

Aner mias gunikas. Husband, one wife. Husband of one wife. And that's what it says. I'd ask them. So women can't be elders, right? And they'd say that's correct. Good.

Now I'd go back to Titus chapter 3. And I'd say deacons must be husbands of one wife. And it says andres mias gunikas.

It's a slight variation on the same word, aner, andres. So it says the same thing. So can women be deacons? Now you see what they say.

And then if they were to say, well, we don't care about that. Okay. Well, here, watch me back out of the church. Watch. I'm dusting my feet as I back out of the church. I just want you to know I'm leaving because you guys are not submitting to the word of God and I can't trust you. Okay. Thank you.

That clears that up. I do have a second question. Is there time for me to ask another? Sure. Is it wrong for a church to take a loan out with a bank to expand their building? I can't say yes. I can't say no because I don't know all the circumstances that a church might have. Let's just say, for example, the tornadoes in Nebraska and the church was growing and they want to reach out and a bank comes and says, look, we'll offer you a loan at 1% and we'll even help you out here so you can rebuild the church. Would that be a good thing?

Maybe. The elders need to get together and talk and see if, here's the thing, see if the people would have enough money to fund the rebuilding of the church while they're rebuilding their own homes. So you see, it's not so easy to say yes or no. We don't want to just have somebody, some church in the middle of some megalopolis and then say, hey, let's just add on another something. Let's buy that building over there and we'll gut it and make it a bigger church. Well, the elders need to be involved and see what happens. Okay. So, not so easy.

I like the idea of not borrowing money, but seeing if it can be raised from within the church, I think that's the best way, normally speaking. Okay? Okay. Okay. All right. Thank you. That helps tremendously. Have a great night. You too. Thanks a lot. All right.

Three open lines. If you want to give me a call, 877-207-2276. Welcome, Anthony from Kansas. Welcome, Anthony. You're on the air.

What do you got? How are you doing, Matt? I'm doing all right, hanging in there. Yeah. Anyway, I had a question and the context is I was listening to some progressive Christian speaker who's written a book. I try to listen to some of these guys so I can critique what they're saying, you know. But this particular individual said, kind of in the context of maybe liberation beyond you, but basically she said that there are parallels between how we treat the earth or the planet, the way we treat women, and the way we treat people of color. It's kind of mentioned things like extraction, control of black and brown bodies, and exploiting and taking and not giving, that sort of thing.

I wonder what you're talking about. I didn't quite understand the last thing you said, but this guy was talking about how we treat women, people of color, and the earth. What was the last sentence you said?

Well, it just sounds like all woe-giving to me. Well, I don't know what he's saying, though. You can repeat what he's saying.

Hold on, we've got a break, okay? We'll get right back. I'm sorry.

So you can formulate a question. That's all right. That's all right. So you can formulate this question a little bit better when we get back.

All right, buddy? Hey, folks, one open line, 877-207-2276. We will be right back. It's Matt Slick live, taking your calls at 877-207-2276. Here's Matt Slick. All right, buddy, welcome back to the show.

We have one open line if you want to give me a call, 877-207-2276. All right, let's get back on the air with Anthony. Okay, Anthony, let's continue. Am I back on again?

Yes, you're back on the air. Uh-huh. Okay, what I was saying was she seemed to speak from that angle of liberation, theology, red letter Christianity, that angle. So I know there's a certain worldview behind all that, but she was making parallels between our treatment of the environment, our treatment of women, and treatment of people of color. How about did she mention the treatment of white people?

No. Oh, well, then she's prejudicial because there's prejudice against white people as well from people. So, you know, I guess she's just not interested in talking about how treatment should be from all perspectives.

Are you there? Mm-hmm. So, yeah, that's what she was saying. She seemed to say that white patriarchy maleness seemed to be the problem. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a bunch of crap.

Yeah, I get so sick and tired of this. It's just one of the ways of destroying our culture and trying to destroy masculinity. The idea that masculinity is evil, bad, not to be trusted, and dangerous. The patriarchal system is a pejorative because men are the ones in charge. You can't trust men.

It's an attack, and it's sickening. So, I'm going to just say this, that we Christian men need to act like Christian men, and there's different ways that that can be manifested. But in 1 Corinthians 16, 13, be on the alert, stand firm in the faith, act like men, be strong. How did Jesus act as a man? Many men need to emulate him, and what he did was he didn't put up with crud, and he spoke the truth. He treated all people equally.

He treated them lovingly. The Pharisees are the ones who he rebuked for their false religious system teaching, and he taught and he forgave, and this is what we need to do. And this is something a lot of people don't know about, that he led, and he led by teaching and going. He led by followers who went after him.

He was a leader, and men are supposed to be leaders. We're supposed to emulate Jesus. And so, this is what we're called to do in the Christian church. It doesn't mean we pull women around by her hair and make me a sandwich woman.

That's nothing like that. And Jesus also laid his life down for the bride, and we're to do that for our wives as well and treat women honorably and with respect and honor. This needs to happen in the Christian church, and the idiocy that's going on in the world is the attack on masculinity, particularly the white culture, because it's the white males who largely built this country. That's not to say that the blacks and the Chinese and whoever, whatever, all the others weren't involved with it. I'm not saying that. But you can understand that the great majority of the people were white, and they did a great deal of work in this country and got it where it is.

Now, good, bad, and ugly, it's all there. But the idea here is that white masculinity is now the thing to be attacked. And the patriarchy is going to be attacked along with Christianity because Christianity teaches that Jesus was a male and that wives are to submit to their husbands, but that submission is not obedient.

It means submission in a willing way the way they would do that with the Lord, who is leading. And this is what it's supposed to be. I'd love to teach a seminar on this, but nevertheless, that's what's going on. And that woman sounds like she's just full of woke idiocy.

That sounds like to me so far. Yeah, I speak as an African American. I'm an African American. I'm frankly suspicious of anyone when they start talking that way because even though have black people been oppressed in America? Yes. Have women been oppressed? Yes.

Have we put poisons in the environment, destroyed many species like the passenger pigeon? Yes. But I think that's just kind of used. It's like these are being used to not turn people back to God but turn people away from God. Right. And they forget the great progress that we have made in this country, the incredible progress.

The blacks were treated so badly in the early part of the century, in the 1800s. They were. It's a fact. But that's not the case anymore. Now there's so much difference that's occurred. We should rejoice in that. We should rejoice that women are even freer than they were before.

We should rejoice in that. Who's the one who's pushing these things? It's like saying, oh, all the white males are against all the rights for women and blacks and Asians and whatever, only themselves. This is what the implication is, and it's stupidity. It's idiocy.

It's not the case. I live in Idaho, and there's like 2% or 3%. Well, we're 97% or something like that white people here in Idaho.

But I'll tell you this. The non-whitish people, when we encounter them, we don't care. We don't care at all. All we care about is what kind of person are you.

That's what we're interested in. Are you conservative? Are you liberal? Are you Christian? Are you not? We don't care what color you are. It's not our thing. And it's like that all over the country.

Just what kind of person are you? That's what we want to know, and that's how it should be. Yeah, that's the bottom line. There's a little bit over a million people in Idaho I know and also a lot of potatoes. But one more quick question. We have 2 million people total. Two million? Oh, okay.

Total, yeah, the entire state. Probably more potatoes. Anyway. Another thing I'm suspicious of, Pat, is so-called climate change. We're already saying that that tornado in Kentucky was because of climate change. And frankly, I get very suspicious and weary of people doing that, because I'm in Kansas. This past year, we haven't had hardly any sisters at all.

And we're kind of famous for that out here. So let's just say I'm a climate change skeptic. Yeah, I'm skeptical, too. But what's happening is, think about this, climate change is being used along with the oppression of the whites in order to reconstruct our country and push socialism in to get control. And wokeness is assisting that, along with BLM. BLM is a horrible organization. They did research on them early on, and they teach stuff and promote stuff that is so incredibly ungodly. It's definitely anti-Christ.

It is. Just like a white supremacy group. That's anti-Christ.

Come on, we don't believe in that stuff. There's extremes everywhere. Just because you're black doesn't mean you can't be prejudicial. So that's the thing. Everybody has problems. Everybody is the same.

Sinners. Why do we hide behind or hide under in order to make ourselves feel better about who we are at the expense of others? Instead of standing up and doing what we're supposed to do with ourselves and be better citizens and help others.

That's what we're supposed to be doing. But the enemy gets in and causes division and causes dissension and anger. And by doing that, the left can come in and sow more discord and gain more control.

So they've opened the borders, let the illegals come in who are going to be voting socialistic. They let the evil come in with the drugs that's coming over. That's happening a lot. Biden, the branded administration, just basically equipped our enemy with billions of dollars in weaponry. Inflation, they're printing money like it's going out of style, ruining our economy and our building purchase. So what's happening? Disharmony, distrust is abounding and this causes problems.

And the left is able to look at the solutions, the solutions that they create. Okay. Yeah, that's right. Okay, buddy. We've got to go on a break. All right, man.

God bless. Hey, folks, we'll be right back after these messages. Please stay tuned. Welcome back, everyone. All right, let's get to Bill from California. Bill, welcome.

You're on the air. Good afternoon, Matt. How are you? Oh, hey, Bill.

How are you doing? Good. Hey, watching last night's debate, I don't think Joshua Gibbs fully understands Calvinism and he couldn't really answer the question on Colossians 2.14. No, he couldn't. No. Yeah.

No. I think his point here, he's trying to get across that. That extend debt is by all 613 commandments was nailed to the cross. So we're no longer under that law.

We're under the law of grace. Right. I mean, I don't want to put words in his mouth, but I think that's where he's trying to get across. Yeah, I thought there were some inconsistencies, and he thought there were inconsistencies with my position. But I thought it was cordial, and he's a pastor, so praise God, and we just disagree on this issue. It was very nice.

The after show was interesting. I got attacked again. Yeah, I think I should send out posters of me with darts so that people can just get it out of your system. That'd be nice. You don't want a poster of a man's leg you can throw darts at. That'd be good. Why not? You know?

So, yeah, I thought it was a good debate left out. I'll buy one. I'll buy one. Throw darts at you. Throw darts at you. That's right.

Throw darts at you. Yeah, so those two guys were... What's that? The preacher guy was absolutely clam.

And the other guy says, oh, mine's not as thin. Like, really? Yeah, yeah. They were whacked. Uh-huh. Why don't these guys come up with stuff? They, yeah. You know, I've got... A few people have sent me, let's see, three shirts.

Three different T-shirts. So much heresy, so little time. So they just, you know, they get on these hobby horses and then what they do is they believe one point and they interpret all of everything else in light of that one thing. And this is what causes them to be so whacked.

They don't have a holistic understanding of Scripture. And like that one guy, when he took me to John 834, where Jesus says, if you commit sin, you're the slave of sin. And I told him, in the Greek, it's a participle, which means an ING. It's an ongoing action.

That's what he's talking about, the participation and the abiding. You're not a Christian. You're just in sin. You're sinning.

He didn't want to hear it. That's not what it says. If you commit a sin, you're a slave of sin. You ever sinned, Matt? Well, yeah. You're a slave of sin.

It's like, dude, you're not listening. And I said, here's what the Greek says. I don't want to hear about the Greek.

I just want to know what it says. I just said, your ignorance and your arrogance are just astounding. Because they were. Yeah. And I thought it was great when he goes, do you know Greek? And he goes, yeah. And you had to parse that verb. He couldn't answer you.

I do that all the time with people. OK, what's the verb a-me mean? What is it? What's the word agathos? You can tell me. And what's a nominative and genitive distinction?

What is it? Have you learned this in the first couple of weeks if you've taken Greek? So it was pretty bad. He was arrogant. And he's biblically illiterate, too.

Oh, yeah. I'm not saying he's illiterate. But biblically, he was illiterate. Yeah, he's almost an idolater. Not pretty harsh.

They have an idol that they bow to. That John 834, the way they interpret it, not the way it actually is. But yeah, it's pretty bad. Yeah, it was. But I thought it was a good debate. And the guy, though, the debater, he was great. He was polite. Oh, yeah. I love him. Oh, yeah. He was a great guy.

Yeah, he was. But he doesn't understand the sound of it. And I don't fully understand the need of it yet.

I'm trying, in the last couple of years, to get into it. Yeah, there's more to it. People think it's his five point. It's not. It's a very, very, very deep theology.

And some of the most spiritual people in the history of our country were in the Reform camp, as well as in Europe. And so, yeah. Anyway, you know, that's that. No big deal.

But all right, buddy. And the best Bible teachers are Calvinists. The what? The Bible teachers are what?

The best Bible teachers now are Calvinists. I think so. Don't you think? I think you are so intelligent. And obviously well-learned when you say stuff like that. Oh, yeah. It's so true.

Which of that map Slick does? That guy's an exception. He's got problems. Whoever that guy is.

A guy named Slick, you can't trust him. All right. All right, man. Thank you. All right, man. God bless. God bless.

All right. That was Bill from California. Let's get to Tony from Charlotte, North Carolina, who's going to talk about women in the pulpit, which I would love to have talked about.

Let's see. Ron from Ohio. Welcome. You're on the air. Hey, Matt. How you doing, buddy? I'm doing all right.

Just busy. Okay, good. Can I tell you a really quick story?

It's kind of a testimony, but it's really cool. All right. Is that okay?

Yeah, very fast. Okay. I live in Ohio. I live in Ohio about three years ago.

I went to Ohio State. Well, God sent me to an Ohio State football game to pray with people, okay? Okay. So there was people on crutches, and God was having me doing healing prayers with these people. And I walk up to this gentleman, and I said, hey, would you like a free prayer? He says, no. He reaches out his hand to shake my hand. He says, I'm going to give you one. I'm a pastor.

And I'm like, wow, out of 90,000 people, right? Okay. So keep this in mind. Now, Jesus was baptized in the Jordan River, correct? Yeah. Okay. So he says, hey, wait a second, because we're about to part ways. He goes, I just got back from Israel. He said, he reached in his pocket, and he pulled out these stones. And he says, here, you can have one. I'm all, well, thank you.

You know, thank God. And he says, wait a minute. I got something else in my pocket. And he reaches in his pocket, and he pulls out a vial of water from the Jordan River.

Cool. And out of 90,000 people, God sent me over there to pray with people, okay? And out of 90,000 people, here I end up, God puts me with this guy. Kim, come on.

He had to be the only guy there at a 90,000 that had a vial of water from the Jordan River. Praise God. Right? Come on. Praise God. Yes, it was a God moment for sure. So anyway, he proceeded to baptize me, you know, through Jesus with this water from the Jordan River. Oh, okay. He poured it on you? Is that cool?

Yeah, it is. He poured it in my hands, and I wiped it on my face after he said the prayer. Okay. And I felt like, I felt like just, you know, even more weight came off of my shoulders, you know. Okay.

I just felt like so light, I could just float it right away, you know. But isn't that cool? Yeah, it is. You know, I've been to Israel, too, and brought back some of the stones that did not cry out and was in the Jordan a little bit, and some other place. It's a wonderful place to go.

It is absolutely awesome. Yeah. I'm probably not going to get there. I mean, you know, anything, with God, anything's possible, but I'm probably not going to get there. I'm a Jew for Jesus. Okay.

I was born in a Jewish family. Now I have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. Amen. Amen. Well, there's a break coming up in a minute or two. Do you have a question?

Yeah. Okay, so I went to this church with this lady. She said, hey, come to my church and check it out. When I was there, there was a lady that was given the message. And I'm like, okay, well, in the body of Christ, there's no man, woman, old, young, black, or white.

We're all just one member of the body of Christ. So to me, that's okay. If this woman's going to begin up here and give a... Wrong. ...and give a message, I would say there's really not much wrong with it.

But the problem with that... Wait. Hold on a sec. Hold on a sec.

Hold on, hold on, hold on. That is incorrect. What you did was you went to Galatians 3.28. There's neither Jew nor Greek nor slave nor free nor male nor female. They're all one in Christ. Now there's no male or female, so it's okay for...

Hold on. So it's okay for a woman to be a pastor? No, it's not. That verse in Galatians 3.28 is about salvation. It's not about being in the pulpit. And the issue of being in the pulpit is it's not for women, it's for men.

And they need to step up and do their job. Okay. Okay?

All right. Yeah, and then she changed the words. Now do you believe, like I do, I don't know if you believe in this, but the Holy Spirit is a person, a man.

A man? Wait. Oh, so you're repeating what she was saying. Okay, okay.

I'm getting you now. Okay, so she said that the Holy Spirit is a man. Well, what I'm saying is... Yeah, you need to explain that for a little bit.

No, that's what I said. She called the Holy Spirit an it. Okay, okay. Hold on, hold on, hold on. The Holy Spirit is a person, not a human being, but person in the theological sense and not an it in the sense of non-personal.

Okay? Yeah, I know. She called it an it. She said the Holy Spirit is it, and I'm like, wait a second. You just took the word, you changed the words of the Bible right there.

It says he in the Bible in the King James Version, it refers to the Holy Spirit as a he. Well, you understand, though. She called it an it. Hold on, we don't have much time.

I've got to tell you this, okay? It's like Spanish. Okay.

When you conjugate a verb, you have he, she, and it are all one form. We distinguish them in English. No kidding. In Greek, it's the same thing. No kidding. So you have to know, yes, that's correct, and you have to know what it is by the context.

And so the Holy Spirit will be in the masculine form, and sometimes it doesn't move it. Okay. Okay? But there you go. That was a really cool story, though, wasn't it?

Yeah, it is. Praise God, now. All right. Talk to you later. God bless you.

You too. So that's the end lines. The last segment coming up. We'll be right back after these messages. We'll see you soon. It's Matt Slick live, taking your calls at 877-207-2276.

Here's Matt Slick. All right, welcome back to the show. Before we get on the next caller, I just want to remind you, we're doing an end-of-year fundraising drive, a matching fundraising drive. So if you were to donate 10, it becomes another 10, and it becomes 20 automatically. If you want to help out, the instructions and the information are all there on CARM, and all you got to do is go to CARM.org, C-A-R-M dot O-R-G, forward slash donate. We need the, we really depend on the end-of-the-year thing because it helps us for the beginning of the year when we've got to pay out a lot of money for the missionaries and for insurance.

So that's just life with the ministry. All right, let's get to Amor from North Carolina. Welcome, you're on the air. Hey, Matt, thank you for taking my call. Sure. I've been listening to your, I don't know, I'm driving my car, and I got to listen to some of the Christian local radio here I got to show, and I've been listening to you now for, I don't know, maybe almost a year now. Good. Almost like that, and I really like it, I love it.

God bless you, continue what you're doing. It reminds me of, I told you a while ago, it reminds me of a guy I used to watch on YouTube a lot. He passed away, Zechariah. Oh yeah, Ravi Zechariah, uh-huh. Yeah, what do you think of him? He was a very good communicator, and yeah, he was a very good communicator, and then he was found to have been in some pretty bad sin.

Say it again. Yeah, he was a good teacher, but he was found to be in some pretty bad sin after he passed away, we found out. But yeah, he was a very good communicator.

All right, yeah, it is. Yeah, yeah, I think he passed away. He got sick or something like that. But I worked last night, I had my break, and I tried to YouTube, sometimes Zech, I got to know your show, and I got to listen to others.

He passed away, but I passed another, you know, Stanley, and Jaxxo, and all those guys, you know. And I encountered, I used to be, I'm originally from the Philippines, right, and I grew up Catholic, you know, not anymore. And I got encountered with the guy that you debate.

I think this has been made, and all this is not new. You have, like, Catholic apologetic, Mark Kowie, or something, you remember that music? I've debated so many people that I can't recall who they all are. I'm keeping records now, for the past couple of years.

But yeah, I don't know, I've just debated a lot of people. Mark Kowie, he's a Catholic apologetic, and you said, I read a lot of your comments, when you said, he's talking about, I listened to the whole thing, and you said, you kind of make a joke, and I'm like, why, you're gonna go to hell, then? You see, all that, that was good. But anyway, I just want to tell you, I have no question for you, I just want to say, continue what you're doing, I really love what you're doing, and God bless you, and I listen to you every day. Well, thank you very much, appreciate it. And God bless, okay, God bless. Thank you, thank you, and continue what you're doing. Thank you very much, God bless you. By God's grace, amen. Thank you for taking my call.

Oh, sure, okay, all right, well, praise God. All right, let's get to Mark from Florida. Mark, welcome, you're on the air. Hey, Matt, how you doing? Doing all right, hanging in there, barely.

So what do you got, man? So, interesting situation in my work there, and without saying certain things, I could get, you know, flax or anything like that, but they're offering an opportunity for religious exemption for the Grandpa Joe's cough syrup, and I'm taking the position, right, exactly. I'm taking the position that they don't really even need to have any right to know my religion, nor my medical history, and.

I would agree. My question about that is, am I treading the line of being ashamed of my faith when I do that, or could that be a perception of others when I say that? Well, you can't control the perception of others.

You need to do what you think is right before God first, and then try and be a good witness to others as well. So I've written a lot on COVID and some other things on the website, of course, and I've got some information there. But the religious exemption thing, I've got a letter for that, you can print it up.

The, a lot of vaccines, let's just say, are developed using aborted fetal material, and we talked about this yesterday. Various things are, and I don't want to benefit from that. And so it's a religious thing, and I think that if that's your conviction, that you should let them know. And if it's a religious conviction, because if you're an atheist, you can't do a religious conviction. So I don't have a problem with them saying, well, if you need a religious exemption, that's okay.

I would have no problem with that. And say, yeah, that's right, I'm a Christian, and I have this, that, and I don't want to participate in this or that. And if they say, well, you're gonna lose your job, you know, then you're gonna face the issues, the consequences, and the whole bit. And this is what's happening in our totalitarian government that is becoming totalitarian. People don't know what totalitarianism is, but it's where the government is in complete and total control of everything. And what they do is they try and move us along towards submission in every way they can. This is what's happening now. And so masks are necessary when you have a pandemic, but when the pandemic has passed like it has, then they continue to force you to wear them.

That's a control marker. And controlling people and forcing them. You can't have, can't buy, sell, or eat, or drink, or move until you have your passport papers, your papers, your papers, you know, as a guy, I'll just, this is the problem with it all that is being used for control. I'm not against vaccines. I don't have any problem.

I know people who've gotten the jab. Okay, I don't care. Doesn't bother me any, but. Well, could the religious exemption itself be considered a control marker or be used as a control marker in and of itself?

It depends on how much used it might be. Right. It might be. It's like the woke thing is being, I think, being used to get rid of people in the military. So that the ones who are left over will do whatever they're told. And then they can turn on the population.

That's what I'm worried about. So, basically anything can be used as a control marker. Having dealt so much with the cults for years, one of the marks of a person in a cult is the lack of critical thinking and the lack of the right to examine what the leadership says and to be heard. And disagreement by that same leadership. And when, this is how cults work.

So Mormonism, Jehovah's Witnesses, Christian Science, et cetera. You're supposed to submit to the leadership. They know more, they're in position. And if you question, then you're punished.

And this is how it is. So, in Christianity, if you're questioned, okay, well let's talk about it. Let's answer it.

Let's go through this. But in cults, they do this. They punish you for resisting the authority above them if you say, I'm not so sure about this. And this is what's happening in our society. The people in control, the few that they are who are usually millionaires and who are out of touch with the average Joe are the ones who are trying to punish people who don't get jabbed.

And if you do your own thinking. I'm just wondering why that is, the punishment. I'm still trying to write up my brain around why. Because they want control. If they can cause you to fear, then you'll do what they want.

That's what it is. It's an issue of fear and control. Fear is what they use to control.

So what does the news media do? Oh, you know, this omicron, they skipped xi, the letter xi in Greek. And that's because, I believe, because the Chinese leader's name is Xi.

And so, there's a very quick similarity there. So they are appeasing the Chinese, which is, it is so bad. It just enrages me.

I can't even say what, okay. So now they go to omicron, which apparently is pretty benign. But no, now they're gonna have new lockdowns. It's more control. The more people get used to control, the more they will become the more they'll be able to control. They will become controlled. And then they will just say, yes, I'll give up my weapons. Yes, I'll give up my rights.

Yes, I'll give up everything. And then when the state gets in control, it will then confiscate all private property for the betterment of everybody else to get rid of white supremacy and inequality. Because you've gotta have equity for everybody, and the state will tell you what is equitable. And that's Venezuela. That's what happened to Venezuela. Does that include religious freedom? Religious freedom is almost always suppressed in a socialistic totalitarian regime. Oh, boy, this is what they're trying to do.

Absolutely. This is why the Christians need to be very aware of what's going on, and the pastors need to be speaking about this from the pulpit. They need to be aware of it. They need to be addressing this, addressing this, and we need to resist socialism. Socialism is not biblical. And I could teach and preach on what is biblical. There are biblical things there. So anyway, biblical models, and it's capitalism, believe it or not, but not raping and pillaging the land. The idea within that is to care for others. There's the gleaning thing in the Old Testament.

There's considering others to be, you love them and things like that. And so that's supposed to happen, but people are not Christians. What happens is they have benefited from the foundation laid by so many Christians within our history that were woven into the Constitution and Bill of Rights, which were derived out of scriptures from the Puritans. People don't know this. The history, they don't tell you this anymore.

They don't want people to know this. And so they get rid of that, but they're building on the foundation that was laid by biblical principles, by the founding fathers of our country. And then they're kicking them out and they don't want anything to do with it and they want to remake everything according to what they want. It was not socialism that made America great. It was not socialism.

It was capitalism with its problems, because people are sinners. It's not a social system that makes something right. And that's the other thing about social stuff, is it removes individuality and you have to be part of the group and it causes group think.

And if you don't step in line with group think, then you're punished publicly to stop others from stepping out of line. This is what's happening. It's kind of frightening in a way, but I appreciate you helping me with that answer.

Yeah, I see, it's frightening. I'm gonna do some, yeah. Before I go, I just, I heard last week that just off the topic that you're struggling or having issues with pre-diabetes. And I just want to maybe offer, oh, are you? Yeah, I gotta go in Friday and I'm 6.7 A1C or something like that, it's very low.

And I could probably fix it with diet and some other stuff, but you know, yeah. Getting older, I just turned 62. I just went through this situation actually just recently. And while I'm still listening to your show and I was in the same situation, I was having symptoms and I searched for, I searched. Mark, you gotta call back tomorrow. We're out of time, sorry buddy. Okay, all right, no problem. All right, sorry buddy, I wanna hear, okay. All right, and Curtis from Delaware, my apologies. Nelson from Bakersfield, my apologies.

And Brayden from Idaho, I know who you are, tough luck. And hey, folks, we'll be back on here tomorrow by God's grace. We'll talk to you then, see ya. Have a good one everybody. Another program powered by the Truth Network.