Matt Slick Live

The following program is recorded content created by the Truth Network. It's Matt Slick live. Matt is the founder and president of the Christian Apologetics Research Ministry, found online at KARM.org. When you have questions about Bible doctrines, turn to Matt Slick live. Francis taking your calls and responding to your questions at 877-207-2276.

Here's Matt Slick. All right. Welcome, everyone.

I hope you're going to have a good time listening to the show. And if you want to participate, all you have to do is dial 877-207-2276. The last four digits spell C-A-R-M on your dial on your phone.

KARM.org, C-A-R-M dot O-R-G. That is the Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry. So I've been working on that for, let's see, actually, on the 25th of this month, it's going to be 26 years old. What day is that? What day is the 25th? I'm going to look at that on my calendar here. So how about that?

Isn't that cool? 26 years old, and that'll be on Tuesday. It'll be on a Tuesday. No, Monday, 25th, because that's October 25th. That's when we started. So how about that? Praise God.

And hey, look, folks, if you want to give me a call, we have four open lines, 877-207-2276. Now, last night, I had a debate with a well-known Muslim apologist, Shabir Ali. Don't know if any of you watched that. If you did, you'd like some feedback. Now, I had three approaches in the debate.

Look at this very, very quickly. I brought up the issue of the expression of personhood and the problem that it poses inside of Unitarianism, the issue of solitude and how it's related to a torture as it relates to Unitarianism, and the one and the many issue, which is a philosophical issue, but it's plagued theologians, philosophers for centuries, and how the Trinitarian view held and solved that problem, but the Unitarian one does not. And we also went into the issue of the Trinity. So the opening statement's up on CARM. You can go to the CARM website and just go to the left-hand side, apologetics, go to debates, and then you go down to the atheism section and look on that. Or you can just go to the homepage, and it's listed there, Shabir Ali, or just type in Shabir, S-H-A-B-I-R. He's a real nice guy.

I'm sure we'd get along if we lived next door to each other, a nice guy, but he's a Muslim, and he does not believe in the true and living God, and that's a problem. So if you saw the debate and want to make some comments, give me a call. If not, no big deal. I did do a Patreon video on it today and went over that. And let's see what else. And we got other stuff we could talk about, but no big deal.

So we have four open lines. Give me a call, 877-207-2276. Oh, that reminds me really fast. We had Bill McKeever on from Mormonism Research Ministry. Had him on yesterday.

He was great. Talked about Mormonism all day. And tonight, I've got to be on with Eli Ayala, which I was teasing him on about his name, Eli Ayala.

Ayala, Ayala, Ayala. It's like a Muslim called war. And we're going to be discussing the Jehovah's Witnesses, Jehovah's Witness stuff tonight in about three hours from now, 9 p.m. Eastern time. And I have to put that link and stuff up on the calendar as well.

So busy, busy, busy tomorrow night. Bible study continuing through Galatians Chapter 5. And there you go. See what's happening. All right. Okay. Let's get to Chris from Indiana.

Chris, welcome. You're on the air. All right. Cool.

Hello, Matt. Thank you for taking my call. Sure. Okay.

I spoke with you a week or so ago. Okay. And we had mentioned Joyce Meyers. And you said that you called her a heretic. She is. Yeah. Yeah.

Okay. And wait a minute, because you used First Corinthians, Chapter 2, I think 12 through 15. And I think that was you were saying that as Christians, we could judge.

Because I sit under a pastor, and he's always preaching that we're not allowed to judge. No, he's wrong. And he said, well, okay, that's what I'm saying. So if you can help me understand that, those verses, because he said, if I can tell him separately, that he would change his position.

That's what he said. But do you help me understand? Yeah, sure.

It's not a problem. You know, when it says don't judge, what does he mean by judge? If a murderer murders someone, are we to judge that as being sinful? Well, of course we are. If he just said don't judge, don't say anything's right or wrong, we can't say that.

It's not true. We do make judgments all the time. And as far as calling Joyce Meyer a heretic, she is a heretic. She flat out is. And I've read stuff, and I've got the quotes. She has done stuff and said things that are just heretical. If he does not know what she's taught, and he said, well, don't judge. Well, then what you need to do is go to the website, go to karme.org.

It has the audios of her saying what she says, as well as the quotes from the books. And do that. Show them. And if he cannot, let me tell you something. If he says no, even in light of this, we still should not judge her, then he's disqualified from being a pastor. Because the elder, pastor's an elder, is supposed to be able to refute error. And if he can't do that, then he doesn't meet the qualifications of being a pastor.

Right. Well, he didn't really say anything about her. I was just saying, I remember you using those verses for a right to call Joyce Myers out, basically. So, but I have a real issue with him, the way he tries to get us to understand. Like, I mean, always not judge, because like, every time I'll point out a fault or a wrong in someone and try to kind of correct it or help them see it, you know, they'll say, don't judge. Don't judge. He always says, we're not supposed to judge. No, that's not true.

1 Corinthians 2.15. I know that. I know it's not true. I know it's not true. What is wrong with him?

I don't know. I need to explain to him. I need to explain to him that it's not, that we can't judge. And you said something really specifically about those verses that I just didn't catch it all. But those things, those verses came back to mind when I heard him say, I was thinking about when I had that conversation with you and I tried to look him up and to understand it, but I didn't really get any clear understanding how to use these verses and explain them to him that we can judge. Of course we can.

Is that what I'm saying? It depends on what we're judging. We can just go out to somebody and say, hey, you're not a true Christian. I don't like you. I'm not a true Christian.

That's not fair. Right. But if we're judging in the sense of, if someone were to say Jesus Christ is not God in flesh, we can tell them you continue in that. If you do, you're not going to be saved because Jesus says, what if they were committing adultery or something? We say, Hey, you know, yeah, you condemn that. You judge that as sin. Absolutely.

Okay. That's the kind of stuff I think I'm trying to figure out. Can I use those verses that, cause it says like we judge all things. We then who are spiritual, how I saw verse 15 says spiritual person judges all things, but is himself to be judged by no one.

So, right. How do you interpret that? That we can make spiritual judgments.

That's what it means. We can make spiritual judgments. We can, if someone denies a Trinity or the DT of Christ or his resurrection, we can say you're outside the camp of Christ and they need to repent.

It's very simple. And we need to expose that. If you're committing a sin, because even if we, you know, like, I think I said, you know, like sometimes they'll pick out my fault. I'm not trying to pick out their fault, but I'm trying to like, I feel like sometimes I'm warning them or I maybe myself that I don't like that their lifestyle is not in tune, but I, I think I believe the scripture says we're to live godly, holy lifestyle. Right.

And whatever that looks like, I don't know. Yeah, we all, we all stand. None of it gets it right all the time. Right. That's true. None of us do, but we are called to be aware spiritually. It doesn't mean we had the right to go around just judging everybody.

That's not what we do. That's what, when I say things like Joyce Meyer's a heretic, she is, I document it. I show, and I, you know, that's what she says.

And it's heresy that she's teaching. I mean, I believe you with that part, but I'm just trying to get through to my pastor. I'm like, I don't get his position and why he has such a stand with that. Well, why don't you have him call me up and we can talk. All right. I will, I'll see if he will.

I will a little better understanding though that I can bring that to his attention here. It says that we judge all things, right? Yeah. We can make spiritual judgments in all kinds of categories, right?

Okay. We can make spiritual judgments in all kinds of categories and all kinds of topics. We can, because we compare it with the word of God.

And if we were saying we can make no judgments, then we can't condemn any sin. Can we? Of course we can. And we should.

We do. All right. Okay. Yeah.

There's, that's the point that I need. Okay. Okay. All right. All right. I'll wait till I get another question to come across my mind. But I've been waiting on you to come on because I was on the phone the other night.

Something came up and then I got called disconnected. So it's all right. Well, good. Okay. All right, man. All right. Well, God bless me.

Okay. Hey folks, we have four open lines. Why don't you give me a call?

877-207-2276. Let's get to Anthony from Kansas. Anthony, welcome.

You're on the air. How are you doing? How are you doing, man? Doing all right. Hanging in there, man.

What do you got, buddy? Good. I know I called. I know I called. Yesterday, but I had another question, but you were talking about Mormonism.

So I had to postpone it. What do you do when, and I've seen this video, this one, um, this one lady preacher, whatever, saying that Matthew didn't really write Matthew, you know, and, uh, you've heard stuff like that for Matthew didn't write Matthew. Luke didn't write Luke, et cetera, et cetera. Um, is there any books you recommend to refute that or Matt? Well, first of all, how would you refute that Matthew didn't write Matthew? How would you refute that? Well, it's not necessarily, I'll address that, but it's not necessarily a reputation. You have to ask them, show me your evidence.

You made a statement that Matthew was not written by Matthew. What's your evidence for that? I would like to see that. It's up to them. They've made the assertion.

So hopefully they can back up that assertion. If that person cannot back up the assertion and you say, well, if you can't back it up and you shouldn't say it, if they say, well, scholar so-and-so says such and such. Well, at that point, you know, you need to go, you know, check out what that scholar says and then find other scholars and see what the other scholars said and see, and then you can compare. And then I have a saying, you know, my church father can beat up your church father.

My scholar can beat up your scholar. So what she would be doing, well, she's a, if she's a pastor, she's a heretic for being a pastor anyway, but she shouldn't be attacking the word of God. Furthermore, the early church recognized that the Gospel of Matthew was written by the Gospel of Matthew. That's what the early church said.

They were right back there. That's what, that's what, what it is. And so that's why we, we affirm that. Okay. Okay. That's, that's, that's a good place to start. Yeah. But can you recommend any book that talk about this issue?

Maybe by a believing, a believing scholar. Well, let me look online during the break. Okay. And I'll see if I can find something. All right.

All right. Hey folks, 4 Open Lines, why don't you give me a call? I want to talk to you.

877-207-2276. We'll be right back. It's Matt Slick live, taking your calls at 877-207-2276. Here's Matt Slick.

Hey everybody, welcome back to the show. We have 3 Open Lines. Give me a call. 877-207-2276. All right, Anthony, are you still there?

Yeah, I'm still here. All right. So, I would look at what's called the Baker, what is it? The Baker Encyclopedia of the Bible. That's a book you can get into.

Okay. There's another book, the International Standard Bible Encyclopedia. There's another book that will probably have information on that. One of the books I've read lately.

I'm sorry? International Standard Bible Encyclopedia. International Standard Bible. Standard. Yeah, International Standard Bible, ISB.

ISB, known as the ISBE. International Standard Bible Encyclopedia. Also, you can get the Baker Encyclopedia of the Bible.

That's good. And also, there's a book that was going through an outlining called The Canon Revisited. The Canon Revisited by Michael Kruger, K-R-U-G-E-R. So, those are the books, The Canon Revisited by Kruger, K-R-U-G-E-R. And also, what you can just do is just do a search on the web, Church Fathers authorship of Matthew, and you'll find all kinds of stuff. And so, the Gospel of Matthew doesn't describe itself as being written by Matthew.

So, who was it written by? Well, the early Church Fathers said Matthew. Now, I don't usually quote early Church Fathers. I don't usually reference early Church Fathers for doctrine. But when the Bible itself doesn't say who the author of Matthew is, but he was a disciple, and the early Church Fathers, the church people say, very early, that's who wrote it. Well, then that's what we go with, because it makes perfect sense. They were the ones who were closest to it and would have information that we don't have. And so, when people today say, well, it couldn't have been written by Matthew, well, why not? And a scholar, Bob, says, okay, so then all the Church Fathers who said that the book was written by Matthew are just incorrect. He's got to give justifications for that. So, that's how he would tackle it, okay. Didn't Bruce Metzer have a book out called Can You Trust the New Testament or something?

I believe so, but I don't recall. You can just look for that, too, you know. That's what I do when I am checking things out is, you know, I'll just see, does that book exist, I'll go check it out, I'll go look, I'll go see, try and understand who said what, when, where, and just learn as I go.

And I recommend you do the same thing. Yes. Okay. Well, I'm a budding apologist. I'm hoping, praying about having my own, like, YouTube program about it, because I started starting it back in 1985, and who turned me on to apologetics was, I had a friend who turned me on to apologetics was, well, actually, D.A. Carson was the, what lit the fuse and Chuck Colton was the accelerant.

And then they led to Hank Hanegraaff and many other really cool, I met both of those men, by the way. Okay. So, that's what I'm, because there are so many attacks on the Bible, it's hard to know where to begin. I just picked up a lot of things about it. You just begin where you are. That's where you begin. Okay.

Well, you're studying. You don't know. Go check. Just go look. Do searches.

Go to, you know, what books are good for defending the doctrine of the Bible, the canonicity, the reliability. You just go through and study. And you, of course, you've got to get, yeah, Josh McDowell's book, Evidence that Demands a Verdict. You've just got to get that.

There's a lot of good information, documentation in there. I do have that. Okay. Well, there you go, then.

Okay. Well, thanks a lot. Thanks a lot, Matt. All right, man. Well, God bless, buddy. All right? Thanks a lot.

God bless you, too. Okay. All right. Hey, folks, if you want to give me a call, all I got to do is dial 877-207-2276. We have four open lines. I want to hear from you. Give me a call. Let's talk to Roger from North Carolina. Roger, welcome. You're on the air. How we doing, Matt? Doing all right.

What do you got, buddy? My question is this, but it seems like there's an uptick in, you know, Unitarianism. Okay. A lot of people seem to defend them because they, you know, don't deny the deity of Jesus or the Holy Spirit or the Father, but it's hard to explain to them. What's the best way to go about explaining to one of these people that what they're teaching is heresy and why it's wrong?

Yeah. They are denying the true God, who's a trinity, and they are not affirming the total incarnation, which means the person of Christ is in doubt, according to their theology. What they teach is that God is one distinct person. That's it, who's existed eternally.

Now, actually, what I'd recommend is, if you're interested, is go to my debate with Shabir Ali, my opening statement, and I attack three issues that are very prominent, and some of them are difficult to understand, some are not, but the issue of personhood, solitude, and the one and the many, and these are related issues to this, but nevertheless. When they deny the trinity, they deny the full and complete incarnation of the Word in Christ, and they lean towards what's called Nestorianism. What this means is, the correct doctrine is the hypostatic union, and the one person are two distinct and simultaneous natures, the divine nature and the human nature. This is correct theology. Related to that is the communicatio idiomatum, which means that the attributes of each nature are ascribed to the single person.

Jesus, the one person said, I am thirsty, I'll be with you always, even to the end of the earth. He claimed the attributes of both humanity and divinity as a single person. So this is the correct doctrine. Nestorianism would say in the single body of Jesus are two persons, a divine person and a human person, and then they interact with each other. Well, if that's the case, and only the human nature died on the cross, then there is no sufficiency of divine sacrifice, and that denies the sufficiency of the atoning work. In oneness, what they'll often do is say that the human nature was speaking to the divine nature in Luke 22 42, when Jesus says, not my will, but your will be done. Well, that was the human nature speaking to the Father in heaven, our Father who art in heaven, Matthew 6 12. Well, if that's the case, then how is that Jesus was incarnated?

The best they can do is say God was indwelling Jesus. Well, he could indwell all kinds of people, but he's not incarnated. To be incarnated means to become that. And that's what happens when the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, John 1 1 and verse 14. So they don't have a true incarnation. They have a hint towards Nestorianism, two persons in one body. They have another hint, depending on which person you talk to, where the human person is talking to the divine person, you know, not my will, but your will be done, etcetera. Well, that means that Jesus is not fully completely God, just indwelled by God.

This is back in the Nestorian era. And this is why it's so bad. Okay? Now, there's a break, so hold on, we'll get back, we can comment some more, we can come back to the break. Folks, we'll be right back after these messages, please stay tuned.

We'll do it right back. It's Matt Slick live, taking your calls at 877-207-2276, here's Matt Slick. Everybody, welcome back to the show. Let's get back on the air here with, let's see, Roger from North Carolina. Welcome. You're on the air.

Hey, Matt, this is Roger Still. Okay, so if they have Jesus as man, speaking to God, that's God, so they have a man interceding for the saved people, how does that work? So if they're speaking to the Father, if they're saying that Jesus is a man speaking to the Father, then Jesus can't be fully man, fully God.

Right. Now, the reason this is a little difficult for a lot of people is because they don't understand very well the hypostatic union, and as it relates to the communication of the properties. Now, the reason I'm talking about this is not to impress anybody, not to shame anybody, but to say that these kinds of issues that are raised by modalists need to be addressed in the context of a more precise understanding of proper Christology. These issues have come up before, throughout the centuries, and Christian theologians have dealt with these, and part of the solutions and part of the issues that have been raised as answers to the challenges of things like modalism is the hypostatic union and the communication of the properties of the communicatio edumatum, along with diethylatism and not monothelitism. And so these are issues, and they've had to face things like eutychianism, where the two natures of Christ are intermixed so much you can't distinguish, Nestorianism, where two separate persons in the body of Christ, monophysitism, where it says that the two natures, the divine and the human, formed together to form something new, a third new thing called the God-man thing. And so stuff like this, there's other things, Sasinianism, there's a lot of heresies that have come in throughout the centuries, and so the Christian church has dealt with these on a theological issue, on a theological level. So what I'm doing is, is simply exposing the Christians to these problems and the solutions that the church has come through for centuries.

That's what I'm doing. So these things are there, okay? Okay.

Well, I appreciate your time, Matt. Does that make sense? It does make sense. It's just, trying to articulate that is a different story.

I'm not saying completely, but trying to, you know, tell somebody that. If modalism is true, ask the question, how is there a true incarnation? Because it cannot be... See, that was my question, because if God changes forms and goes to be the Father, be the Holy, to become Jesus and to become the Holy Spirit, what happens to Jesus when he becomes the Holy Spirit? Is Jesus just a man in heaven now? Right.

Exactly correct. And 1 Timothy 2.5 says he's a man. And also, he was baptized in order to fulfill Old Testament law, and in his baptism, he entered into that office of the priesthood after the order of Melchizedek. And he's a high priest after the order of Melchizedek.

Hebrews 6.20 and 7.25. You can't be a high priest if you're not a man. So if Jesus is not a man right now, we don't have a high priest, and we're damned.

So what do they do with this? So when we talk about this with modalists, they'll say, well, he's a man right now in heaven. The human part is exalted. And I'm going to ask them questions. Is that man divine in his personhood?

Because they're going to have to answer that question. And if they say yes, well, then Jesus is his own person, right? Yes. And then the Father is his person, right?

Yeah. And the Holy Spirit is. Then you have a trinity. And then they're stuck.

And then it gets into this. That was my question of, OK, if Jesus is a person, then the Father is a person. And if you have a moving form, even if you have Jesus as the person, and they're saying that God changes forms to the Holy Spirit, Jesus is still a person, then God is a person. Two persons. Two persons, at least.

That's right. And that's why it's important at this point to understand the communicati, because if Jesus, in the argument, is a person now, and the Father, or the Holy Spirit, what mode is a person, then the question is, is the person of Christ also divine? Because the attributes of both natures are ascribed to the single person. So when Jesus said on earth, I will be with you always, even at the end of the earth, he's claiming divine attributes. Is that still true of his personhood?

You see why this is important, how it relates? Oh, yeah, I mean, this is, I mean, they've, like you said, they have another God. This is something they've made up.

They do. They have another God. That's not to say that all modalists are not saved, because I believe that people can be in error not knowing stuff in their ignorance and trusting in Christ. But normatively speaking, if anyone believes and knowledgeably believes in modalistic theology, one is Pentecostal, they're not Christian. They're on their way to hell.

They believe in a false god. I agree with that. A lot of people can't even describe the Trinity, but people are saved even though they can't explain it. That's right.

One God in three distinct, simultaneous, co-eternal persons. That's it. That's what the Bible reveals. That's what we teach. All right. All right. Thank you, sir. Have a good day. You too, Roger. God bless. All right.

We have three open lines, 8772072276. Joe, are you from High Point, North Carolina, welcome, you're on the air. Hey, Matt. How are you?

Doing all right. I have a question. I keep seeing this thing pop up on my Facebook page, The Book of Enoch, and I don't know anything about it.

I figured if anybody would know, you would. It's a book written a long time ago, and it deals with the fall, the Nephilim, with the angels and things like that. Some people think it belongs in the Bible because Jude quoted, in part, from the Book of Enoch. They say, well, that means it must be inspired, but that's not the case. Just because a book is referenced and even quoted doesn't mean that the whole book that was quoted was also inspired, because it would be a problem, because if that book quoted anything else and it was inspired, then all the other books are also inspired, and it just becomes ridiculous. So the inspired writer of Jude quoted Enoch and said, this is correct. So it's just giving an approval on one section. It doesn't mean the entire Book of Enoch is correct. And so the Book of Enoch was written a couple hundred years B.C.

and was around and known at that time. Gotcha. Alrighty then. Alright, man. Have you ever read the book?

No, but I think I have a copy of it on CARM, and I've gone through parts of it. I just haven't sat and read the whole thing. You know, it's just, I will if I have to.

If I was doing a debate about it, I'd read the whole thing, but, you know, I won't do it if I don't have to. Alright? Gotcha. Alrighty, sir. Thank you. Alright, man. God bless. Hey, folks.

Four open lines. Why don't you give me a call? Yes, I'm on my way to work, and I'm listening to the radio, and I hear the preacher say, all you have to do is believe and you'll be saved. And I was thinking to myself, I've heard that maybe a thousand times, and the first time I've ever questioned it in my mind, I thought, is it that simple?

Because to me, it seems like there might be something else required like baptism or repentance or developing a relationship with God. That was my question. Well, that's a good question.

It's going to take a bit to answer it, so we're going to break coming up in a couple of minutes, but we'll just work around that. So there's different aspects of this. Belief is only as good as who you put it in. So Mormonism, for example, teaches that God came from another planet and that he and his wife have relations and produce spirit children, and Jesus is the brother of the devil, along with all of us in the pre-existence. So if you were to say, do you believe in Jesus? They'll say, well, yes, but they're not believing in the Jesus of the Bible. So when we say, when Paul says, you know, if you confess with your mouth, Jesus has Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you'll be saved. Well, Jehovah's Witnesses say that God raised him from the dead, but not physically, only spiritually. And they deny that Jesus is the true Lord, Lord as in God. So people can say, yeah, I believe he's Lord and I can believe he was raised from the dead.

But what do they mean by these things? What Paul is talking about, Romans 10, is those who believe in the true Christ and that the issue is we're being justified by faith, not by faith and baptism. Baptism is not necessary in order to become a Christian.

Now I'm going to say a comment here that a lot of people may not get, but I have to explain it. Repentance is not necessary for salvation in that it brings you salvation, but repentance is a necessary work of regeneration that God brings to us. And so we're able to repent of our sins. And so you've got to repent of your sins, but it's not the repentance that saves you.

It's faith in Christ that does the true love in God. Hope that made sense. So hold on, we've got a break and we're going to get right back to you after the break. Okay. Hey folks, phone open lines. Give me a call for the last segment. 877-207-2276. I want to hear from you. Give me a call. We'll talk to you in a bit. It's Matt Slick live, taking your calls at 877-207-2276.

Here's Matt Slick. Everybody welcome back to the show. We have four open lines for the last segment. Give me a call eight seven seven two zero seven two two seven six Let's get back to Bob from Utah alright, Bob So did that answer the question sufficiently? No, you brought another question in mind when you say sure you need to worship the true God. So, how do you find the true? God Well, you go to the Bible. The Bible is the revelation of God and So in the Bible... That's the answer, huh?

Yes. I would agree with you. Yeah, so Mormons for example in eighth article Mormon Church The statement of faith was eight article the articles of faith. They say that the book the Bible's correct insofar as it's correctly translated So the cast doubt on the Word of God Satan did in Genesis 3 did God really say when he spoke to Eve? The this is one of the things that false religions do is cast out on the Word of God then there's another way that they Misuse the Word of God when they believe it's authentic and then they alter it like the Jehovah's Witness Organization has done. They've actually altered what the Bible actually says in some specific areas particularly dealing with Christ and So then they submit the Bible to their authoritarian System and in so doing they arrive at error So the Mormons teach for example that God has a goddess wife and he came from another planet Well, the Bible never says that the Bible contradicts it clearly by saying that God has always been God and he's doesn't even know the other Gods, he's always been what he is. It says that that means Mormonism is false right there But they don't believe it because they doubt the Word of God And this is why God gives them over to the depravity of their heart and their mind So they'll believe a lie and they're under judgment. They think they're okay They feel good, but they don't realize that they're lost and under damnation and nothing but God's mercy keeps them alive Until that day of death then they'll go to eternal damnation that they've not found the true living God The same thing occurs with Jehovah's Witnesses and the same thing occurs with Muslims and Roman Catholics who believe in the true God in the true Christ But have a false gospel because they had works to salvation and denounced the true faith of the true work of salvation in Jesus So when we say go to the Bible to learn who Jesus is in the Bible Well, this becomes a little difficult because well, how do you know whose interpretation of the Bible is correct? Well, what I do is say Just read Just read I say do two things one speed read Like, you know a few chapters of the Gospel of John speed read as fast as you can and then get the you know The bird's-eye view of what's being said and then go back in and just read it slowly the same thing and you'll see different thing from different angles and This is how you can one of the ways you can teach yourself. You can always go do research You know, you can call me up and ask questions now the problem with that is, you know one joke I say is you don't want to trust a guy in the radio name slick But I do have a lot of experience in debating and teaching and writing and research and I provide the references and the links to various things in order for people to check them out because they have to go to the Word of God to check them out and So I recommend that people do that because if they don't do it themselves, they're not going to know If they're what they believe in is true or not and God holds us responsible For knowing what the truth is and the pastors and the elders are supposed to teach truth They're supposed to teach things like the Trinity the deity of Christ the hypostatic union the communicatio idiomatum diethyla tism justification imputation propitiation Atonement covenant they're supposed to be teaching these things because these are the fundamentals of The basic Christian theological perspective and most pastors and elders don't ever teach this stuff all of it some teach parts of it and So the problem here is that then Christians don't have the tools necessary to understand what the faith is and then when more trained individuals in their cultic false doctrines come along the Christians are easy prey to the lying machinations and reasonings of the false teachers and and so this is why people get confused one of the things I hope to do is provide truth by examining the Word of God and providing people with articles and And doing that that kind of a thing so Okay Thanks for the enlightenment. Thank you very much. Okay.

Now. There's something called hermeneutics H-e-r-m hermeneutics, okay, and What I would suggest you do is look up hermeneutics You could go to CARM and you can just type in in the search engine how to interpret the Bible And what I do there is not give you the slick method of a Bible interpretation according to what Reverend slick says No, I'm saying the basic principles are what does the text say? What's the context? What's the immediate context?

What are related verses? How's the word usage? Of what the dictionaries might say, you know things like that. It's just common sense stuff.

What's the cultural context? Is there anything relevant in that area? How do you discover that? Well, unfortunately, this takes a lot of work at some time and a lot of times people are just not ready for it They don't have the tools so In light of that, let me give you a recommendation now I have certain things on my computer that I use a great deal But most people don't have access to the stuff that I have because this is what I do for a living So I say to people is go to blueletterbible.com It's great Blueletterbible.com and for example, you can I'm doing it right now. Okay, I'm looking at it and I'm going to use the NASB 20 which was is the NASB Released in the year 2020 and I'm going to type in for example, let's see, John 3 16 it's a verse that we know about and now John 3 16 shows up with other verses and I'm going to hit the word Tools and all of a sudden all kinds of stuff is there Bibles cross-references commentaries Dictionaries miscellaneous stuff and you could spend hours right there there Just studying and this site among others and I think there's another one out there.

I forgot They can tell me what it is in the chat room. That's like this and you can go there. It just has information and so That you can study and you can learn and you can learn it on your own.

There's stuff for Greek There's stuff The commentaries cross-references everything check it out. You'd be surprised what you can find All right That was blue letter Bible calm blue letter Bible calm I wish That I'm pivoting it. I'm actually coveting how good this site is.

I wish it was a section on calm That's how good it is They've got a crew working on it. They do a great job God's called them to do it and I recommend that people go to blue letter Bible dot org. Excuse me It's done. I think God brings it a dot org and then you can check it out.

So They're having the 25 years of sowing God's Word and then they have a hey look at that to read the story how it worked they started November 3rd 1995 and I started October 25th 1995 so In beginning of blue letter Bible see how it worked. You can see it. Anyway, it's cool. All right, there you go. Okay? All right, man.

God bless All right. Oh, sorry about that cut him off Hey, we have nobody waiting if you want to give me a call all you have to do is dial 877-207-2276 I think there was another website that Has stuff like that on there. Maybe someone could point it out to me write it to me and things like that We have nobody waiting right now folks.

Why don't you give me a call? Now about that site, you know, it is it's important for people to study and I really believe that This is a good way for the average Joe To just go and and find out information again. It's blue letter Bible org I just saw you know, they're not paying me for this. I don't they're not Advertising we're not doing anything.

They have no idea. I'm saying this right now I'm just just letting you know it is a great research You can do all kinds of searches and all kind of stuff and you can donate it too and which I recommend you to just as I recommend you donate to us because we certainly need it and we really do We have a lot of fingers out there in fact that reminds me Um, I'm gonna talk about something in Africa because I want you to pray and I'm talking about that a minute here because we had Nobody waiting. I'm just gonna fill the rest of the time talking about a couple of things It's blue letter Bible org Which I think is an incredible tool and I believe that you should check it out as a Christian Go check it out and just type in a verse and start reading about it. You'll be surprised You will how many great study tools are there? They have commentaries audio. They have videos. They have topical indexes It is wonderful. In fact, if I didn't have all the sources that I have now I would just be going there all the time. Why bother? We could just get whatever you want. Of course I do stuff like searching for certain constructions of Greek which I can do in my Bible logos program and I could search all Kind of stuff and you know, I need that kind of thing But there you go. All right, so I was saying that We have some missionaries this kind of ties into you know Financial support that if you guys would be so kind as to do this Let me tell you one of the things that's happening and why we one of the areas we need support in and why?

Can I kill two birds with one stone by doing this? We have a full-time mission. They're not a full-time but a missionary in Africa in Malawi we also have a guy we've become con in contact with and He joins us on every Friday meeting now, and he is in Nigeria and in Nigeria The Christians are being killed by Muslims they're going in and in the middle of the night on motorcycles with guns and shooting people and killing them and Many are being slaughtered so He asked me of a few weeks ago and I've talked about this before he asked me to write an article about the Christians right Of self-defense and I spent a good week maybe two weeks going over it and writing it because I knew that when I released it that The Nigerians would be using it and that it would affect a lot of stuff very seriously and now he's told me that literally thousands and thousands of of these articles have been printed up and distributed in Nigeria that pastors are asking for them government officials are asking for the copy of this article and That they've all there's been changes that have occurred in the behavior of some of the Christians now the summation of the article is we have the right of self-defense, but not of vengeance and we can use the amount of force necessary to stop a threat and And that's what basically it is. We have the obligation to defend the helpless more So that we have the obligation to defend ourselves if you want to read the article Just say just go to calm org and type in in the search engine there type in the right of self-defense and the article will Come up alright so Our our connection there has run out of paper and we paid for a printer and toner and paper And so he says he's printed thousands up and they're out and more people are asking so we're Gonna get some funds together and send him some more money so that he can buy more printer stuff and You know toner to laser printer This does black and white and he's also printing up the carm statement of faith and giving it Distributing it and now churches are having Bible studies around the statement of faith and they want me to go in and have online Seminars with them over the internet. They said they want churches are asking for my input They want to ask questions, so it's becoming a big thing out there So we're trying to raise funds and this is one of the reasons we need support. It's a real thing that's happening out there So if you do want to support us just go to carm.org forward slash donate And you'll have all the information need right there. We do appreciate it We do need it to the word bless you and there's the music talk about good timing Hey everybody by his grace. We're back on here tomorrow And I hope you have a great another program powered by the truth network