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October 18, 2021 4:00 pm

Open calls, questions, and discussion with Matt Slick LIVE in the studio. Questions include---1- Is the analogy of a person having body, soul and spirit good to explain the Trinity---2- Have you heard of depopulation movements- How much sway do they have---3- Matt discusses the tenants of socialism.--4- Why doesn't our government stop atrocities in other countries---5- A nurse discusses her concerns with the vaccine.--6- Does the vaccine have any biblical significance-

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We'll be going what's going to be happening with that. So there you go. And you know, it happens. Persecution happens. He says, I don't have the right to discuss COVID and vaccine stuff because I'm not a scientist.

And of course, he's not a scientist either. And yet he has the right to tell me what I can and can't do and stuff like that. But what he feels understand, what a lot of people feel understand is all areas are under Christian authority. This is the Lordship of Jesus Christ.

And we have the right to examine everything. Okay, by the way, I'm going to just give you a little bit of a heads up. I ask that you pray for our missionaries in Africa because I've got some interesting information today in our meeting. One guy, Joster, a great guy, he's going around and preaching and teaching and the internet connection there isn't that very good. But he's been spreading the word of truth and been working with a seminary in Miami and out there in the southern part of Africa.

I'll just kind of leave it that way. And we've got a guy in Nigeria, I will say this, and a while back I wrote an article, I've mentioned it on Karm on the radio, I wrote an article about the right of self-defense that a Christian has. They just lay their lives down and just do nothing and get killed. And we have the right of self-defense, not the right of vengeance though. And so I wrote this article up and he's been telling me that thousands and thousands and thousands of articles are being copied and printed up and distributed all over the place. Government officials are interested because the Muslims have been coming in and killing Christians and the Christians don't know what to do.

So this article is being disseminated. Now I'm not advocating violence but we have the right to defend ourselves as Jesus said, buy a sword to sell your cloak and buy a sword, Luke 22 36, and that was in the context of going out into the world being Christians, we have the right of self-defense. And I've talked to people about this, experts in Christian theology, and they agree.

We have that right, not the obligation, but we have that right. So please pray for the Christian church in Nigeria where hundreds are being killed weekly by the Muslims. You know that religion of peace, which reminds me, go to and it's an interesting website, and it documents the atrocities committed by Muslims all over the world on a regular basis.

You could go check it out. Oh man, I should be kicked off the air for saying that Islam is not peaceful and that Muslims are killing Christians because that's probably not something that's allowed to be said in our free country with our free media and the freedom of religious expression. If I say, nope, Islam is not a peaceful religion, it's a violent religion and it's a dangerous religion, nope, you can't say that, you're Islamophobic. They're Christophobic. So anyway, this is what happens and the unfairness of the world, the hypocrisy of the unbelievers is alive and well, but we have our hope in Jesus Christ and we're going to be going to heaven and we'll be with him and unfortunately, I don't seek glory in this, I don't seek satisfaction in this, but unfortunately those who've resisted him will face the judgment of Christ and I don't envy them. I don't want that for anybody.

I just don't, but we are in Christ and he is our king and our Lord. All right, now what we're going to do now is get on the phones here and we have two open lines, give me a call, 877-207-2276. Pearl from Rockville, Virginia, give me, I mean, you're on the air, just messed up. Hello. Hi. I want to get your opinion, sir, on a definition that I felt led of the Holy Spirit to give to a Jehovah's Witness or two Jehovah's Witnesses that came to my door. I knew who they were, but when I asked them who they were, they said, you know, Jehovah's Witness. I said, oh, you don't believe the Lord Jesus Christ is God, do you? They said, no. I said, well, how many versions do you see standing before you?

They said one. I said, well, God made me body, soul and spirit, but I'm one person. He manifests himself in those three different portions that he gave me as a human being. And I said, I am a mother, I'm a wife, I'm a sister.

None of the three are a combination of any of the other, but there's just one pearl. And if you don't believe that the Lord Jesus Christ is God, because God is God the Father, he's God the Son, he's God the Holy Spirit, but he is one God. And he manifests himself in those three different personalities, but he is one God. I said, do some research on the Lord Jesus Christ, and if you don't come to the conclusion that he is God, you will go to hell.

Now, I wanted to get your opinion. I had not read anybody, I'm a reader, I had not read anybody saying that God made us body, soul and spirit. When he made us that way, it was in three different personalities expressing themselves in one person.

Pearl, hold on, I want to jump in and help you out here a little bit, okay? You don't want to say that God is three personalities. That's not a correct way to say it. We say three distinct and simultaneous persons, not personality. There's a theological reason for this.

Would you repeat that again, sir? Distinct persons? Yes, I've written it on the website, what the Trinity is. Okay, distinct persons, okay, but not personalities. Yeah, I've written about this on CARM. You can go to and type in what is the Trinity.

I have a... You have a phone, right? You can go on a phone and you can look it up there, but the Trinity is one God and three simultaneous distinct persons, not three gods and one God. That's not what we teach.

We don't teach polytheism. It is one being who is God, who exists. Simultaneous is three distinct and simultaneous persons, not personality. So it's not a personality, it's person. Yes, a person. And you don't want to say he manifests... God the Father, in other words, bear with me, God the Father manifests himself in the person of God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit. No, no, I'm trying to help you out here, so hold on, okay?

Okay, I'm sorry. Okay, so you want to say three simultaneous and distinct persons. That means the three persons have always existed distinct from each other, yet at the same time have always been the one true God.

We don't know how that worked, but that's what the Scriptures revealed. You don't want to say the Father manifested as the Father or God manifested as the Son because that's modalism or Sibelionism or called modal binarcheism. These are varying degrees of errors on the same thing, where there's one God who has three personalities, three manifestations, and so this is what oneness Pentecostal teach, and it's a cult, it's false doctrine. This is why you have to say one God and three simultaneous and distinct persons, the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit. Okay? Well, for some reason I can't get that straight, sir.

Could you break it down for just a little child? One God. I mean, I realize I believe in God, but that's just the way that, you know, he...

The word person, the word person... No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, the Holy Spirit is not God the Father. That's a false doctrine. Isn't he simultaneous with God?

Okay. Being simultaneous with the Father is not the same thing as being the Father. So you said he was the Father, if I heard you correctly, and I said that's not correct, and then you said, but simultaneous. You've got to understand, you've got to be very precise, and I've written about this on the website, and there's a lot of articles on the Trinity on Carm.

I go through it. One God, one being, he expresses himself as three simultaneous and distinct persons. We say the word person because a person has a will. You can say you and yours and me and mine, etc.

A person is self-aware. So Jesus is a person, and he speaks to the Father. The Father speaks to the Son. The Father and the Son send the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit speaks. They're all three called God. They're all three indwelling us. They all three have a will. And so that is why we say three distinct simultaneous persons.

That's the correct doctrine. It is not correct to say that there's three gods, like Mormonism says. One God, the Father, another God, the Holy Spirit, and another God, Jesus. And that's three gods.

That's polytheism, and it's completely unbiblical. And that reminds me, on Tuesday, just so everybody knows, we're going to have Bill McKeever on the show the whole hour talking about Mormonism. He's a world-class expert. He doesn't like me saying that, but he is.

He'll be on Tuesday in a few days. We'll be discussing Mormonism in depth. All right, so you don't want to say that the Father is the Son and the Son and the Father is the Holy Spirit or are the Holy Spirit.

You don't want to say that. That's what Oneness Pentecostal says, and it's a false doctrine. Well, I didn't realize that.

Do you understand from whence I came, though, body, soul, and spirit is pearl? Yeah, I understand that, and it's not the greatest analogy. People use it. The one person has three... But it's not...

This is why it doesn't work. You're saying one person has three roles, but that's not a proper representation of the Trinity. See... That's just for the human being. No, it's...

I've done this for decades. That's not the best analogy. I understand you're trying to represent it to them, but to say that you as one person have different roles, that's modalism. I never heard that word, sir. How do you spell it? Yeah, and it's also... M-O-D-A-L. Modalism.

I-S-M. M-O-D-A-L-I-S-M. There's also a form called dynamic monarchianism, which deals with the issue of... These are all things that history has dealt with through the heresies, or God is... I'll just leave it at this.

Just say this. There's one being who is God who expresses himself as three simultaneous and distinct persons, and it's not that one person has different roles. That's a heresy, and it's not that one person became the son and then that person became the Holy Spirit. That's a heresy. Okay? No, I didn't mean that.

So it's just a matter of wording it properly, and you probably mean the right thing, but a lot of people just don't practice it wording it, and that's how to word it. One being, one God who is three simultaneous and distinct persons, the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Six and distinct negates the other heresies. Okay? All right, Pearl. And guess what?

The Greek word for Pearl is margarita, just letting you know. It's fun. Oh, thank you, sir. Can I just ask you one more question? We gotta go.

There's a break, okay? Okay, thank you. All right, God bless. Hey, folks, we'll be right back after these messages. Please stay tuned. It's Matt Slick live, taking your calls at 877-207-2276. Here's Matt Slick. Hey, everybody, welcome back to the show. If you want to give me a call, we have two open lines, 877-207-2276.

Let's get to Charlie from North Carolina. Welcome. You're on the air. Hey, brother. Hey. I was wondering if you've ever heard of the term depopulization? Yes. There's a movement, the idea of having only 500 million or less people on the earth.

It's put up in the Georgia Guidestones, which I think is in Atlanta, or it's in Georgia, and put up in 1980. Yep. And basically, it means something like 90% of the world's population needs to die. Wow. And it's a movement among, I guess, the elite or the powerful?

Yes. Now, I don't know to what extent it is, how many actually hold to it, but I've heard, and I need documentation for this, if anybody has any documentation from individuals who said that we need to depopulate the earth. It's one thing to say, well, we need less people on the earth. Okay, well, let's say we need less people on the earth.

How do you achieve that? Well, you just have less births, and you'd be wise about things, so you don't strain the earth, so to speak, and its resources. Well, okay, but if it's, hey, let's introduce a disease and wipe everybody out, most everybody, well, that would not be the right thing to do, or introduce wars to destroy life all over. Who knows? Yes. So, we are overpopulating. Well, I don't know. I've actually read different articles about this.

We can have as many as 100 million people survive on the earth, if it's managed properly. But, anyway. Yeah, because I was thinking about those graphs and charts you put together, and the less, the more vaccines are, the more deaths. Yes, there's a relationship there. Uh-huh. Yeah, there's something there, because I heard there was more deaths.

I heard there was more deaths this year, and this year, not even done, than we had last year, and we got more vaccinated here, so it's consistent with your research. Yep, it is. Yeah, it is. Yeah, and that's a little scary, because they're pushing hard, and they're pushing the elderly, and those with underlying health issues, and I just think you're onto something there, brother. Yeah, and here's a question.

Well, my question is this. If we can trust what the government says, which I don't, why is it that they say, hey, you better get vaccinated and have passports to be able to go to restaurants and whatever, this kind of thing, which we know is moving towards more of an actuality here. Why is it then they just open the borders up for illegals to come in against the law? They break the law to do that, the government does. Doesn't it force the laws that are there, and then allow people to come over with COVID? And yet, hey, buddy, this is serious, you got to wear a mask, you got to get vaccinated.

Not them, the illegals that we're opening the borders up for, not them, but you do. It just does not add up. Something is going on. It doesn't make any sense. It does not make any sense.

I know a big part of it is the spiritual wickedness in high places. That's definitely going on. You know what, uh, just popped up on my phone. Okay.

Literally, I think someone sent it to me. Bill Gates talked about using vaccines to control population growth. Yes. I wasn't going to say it, but I was going to wait till somebody else, but I heard that. Yeah. Okay.

He just popped up on my phone. Yeah. So, uh, you know, who knows, but here's a question. Am I allowed to say things like this here in America? Am I allowed to, uh, freedom of speech less and less last time I heard it, we killed cannon, right? Well yeah, no, the, uh, what happens, I'm writing an article on, um, on the rise of socialism and, uh, you know, I've got so much going on, but, uh, I've been doing this and let me see the dangers and methods of socialism.

And so I write this article and I have 10 steps where I'm going to come back to it probably tomorrow fresh and then modify these steps. Socialism is a lesser form of communism, which means, uh, increasing governmental control with the corresponding decrease of personal freedom. Socialism claims to provide equity to all by increasing its own control over the means of production and distribution. It is socialism cannot thrive in a culture that is unified in a religious or ethical system that centers on personal freedom, responsibility and accomplishment. Socialists use the increase of disharmony and in society by setting groups against each other and fomenting disharmony so that it can come to the rescue. And number five, socialist bureaucrats use them.

Yeah, that's right. Socialist bureaucrats use the media to guide the population's thinking. Free speech is restricted.

Socialism takes over the schools to indoctrinate the youth. It increases its own power by passing more laws, uh, to restrict a while. It's restricting the freedoms of the people. It uses various means to enforce his policies, whether it be fines imprisonment or confiscation of rights. And, uh, it uses a lot of blame shifting, not to mention confiscation of weaponry and various things like that.

And uh, so it's a control system and this is what's going on in America. And uh, there's control markers. Maybe some of the control markers are, are you going to get vaccinated or not?

Are you going to wear the, uh, the mask or not? No, no. Just so you know, I'm not against vaccines. You want to take it, take it.

But what does the government get off on telling us if you want to, so to speak, buy and sell and travel because it's the rights that privilege is given to you by the government, you have to take the vaccine while they open the borders of illegally and let people flood in who are infected. Something's not right. I don't trust them. That's me.

Um, I just want to say real quick, I know there are other call words. I love you, Joe. I love you, man. And uh, uh, even though I didn't vote for Biden, we do need to pray for our leaders. I pray for it.

Guess I want to let everybody know that pray for, pray for the leaders and uh, all the politicians and the president, the vice president. And I can't wait to meet you in heaven one day, man. We're going to meet in heaven. We're all going to meet in heaven and praise God. Praise God.

That's right. Okay. All right, man. God bless.

Thanks a lot. Okay. Hey, let's see. Let's get on the air with Anthony from Des Moines, Iowa. Anthony, welcome.

You're on the air. Professor, how are you? Uh, well, I'm not a professor, but I get to play. I'm doing fine. Doing fine.

You always tell me I'm mad, but you know what? You're a learned man and with your experience and your knowledge of stuff, I grant you the title of professor with much love. My brother. Oh, well thank you. Appreciate that. All right.

So what do you got? Well, you were talking about this issue of all these, uh, Christians, uh, was it in Africa you were telling me about that the Muslims were killing like hundreds of people. Yep. And we were just, and I had talked to you before, um, on the show about that Christian's right of self defense. We're both into martial arts.

We talked about that a little bit and so on. And uh, or some, I'm a firm believer that we're not just supposed to lay down our lives. We're not supposed to be a doormat in the face of violence or opposition. Uh, but my question is, okay, we're one of the most, uh, we used to be one of the most powerful military presence on the face of the planet.

Why doesn't our government, why doesn't our government go in and do something about these atrocities? I mean, it's just, it's, it's abominable. Well, I'll tell you what, let's, we'll get back on the air. We'll talk about it. Okay.

So hold on. Hey folks, we'll be right back after these messages. I want to give you a call. 877-207-2276. We'll be right back. Stay tuned. It's Matt Slick live. Taking your calls at 877-207-2276.

Here's Matt Slick. All right. Welcome back everybody.

Let's get back on the air with Anthony from Des Moines. All right. Are you there?

Right here, brother. All right. So why the government's not helping out the Christians? Is that what you're saying?

Or the atrocities? Well, Matt, here's the question in my mind. The government and, and I voted for Barack Obama twice. Okay. And I'm not going to get into all that, but I thought at the time that he was a good man.

Well, under his watch. Okay. They took out Osama bin Laden, which was, uh, it needed to be done. We took, we took out, uh, uh, uh, uh, the other guy, uh, so that was, yeah. So what's your question? Well, when we're seeing all these atrocities going on with the innocent people, Christians, and we're just standing by and we're not doing anything, we've got a military presence.

I mean, we've got crack. I have a question. Okay. I have a question.

What's your question? My question is why aren't we doing anything? The government's not doing anything because the government is against Christianity. Uh, we are not a Christian nation. Something like really, you know, I'd say less than 2% of real Christians in the country, as is my estimate. Um, and the government is, is hostile to the truth of God's word. Special interest groups, uh, homosexuals, Muslims, uh, leftist socialists are, are moving in control. Christians influences waning. And so they're not going to be defending Christians here and the Homeland.

And they're certainly not going to go across the pond and defend Christians. Like for example, in Nigeria who are being murdered by Muslims, not going to do that because we've got oil in Saudi Arabia. We need to have, and, and you can't go in there and, and cause a problem in another country that, uh, the Muslims might say, Hey, you want your oil? And so that's a problem. And since we have people like Biden who took us off the, um, you know, what undid what Trump did with you like him or not, uh, you know, Trump made us oil independent and then Biden messed that up. So now we're beholden to the Middle East for oil and power and things like that. And so there's problems. So it's just all a big mess because people don't have their eyes on God. They put it on their selves or pocketbooks, what their power is. And so, uh, they're not going to help the weak and the need, the needy.

What they're going to do is help themselves. And that's what happens in government. Let me tell you guys something here. Let's see. I think it's Isaiah one 17.

Let me check. Remember this, right? Learn to do good. Seek justice, reprove the ruthless, defend the old orphan, plead for the widow.

This is a command. That's what we're supposed to be doing. All right, let's get to Ryan. We lost Ryan.

Okay. Now let's see if we've got another one. We can lose.

Nope, we got him. Or let's get to Sarah from North Carolina. Sarah, welcome. You're on the air. How are you, Matt? I'm fine.

How are you? I hope you slept last night. I was the one that called yesterday in reference to Joseph. Yes. Uh huh.

Did you find, did you find anything that I was missing? Nope, because I had to teach a Bible study last night. And so I had to prepare for that. And then that usually goes for two to three hours as people are here. And then I just relax after that. And then today is working on some other projects and stuff. And I got to do at five 30, which is an hour from now, I'm going to be on being interviewed by Tony Costa, Tony Costa, and we'll probably be talking about, uh, melanism.

So I got a debate on Tuesday. You got to do. Yeah.

So just busy. Okay. I was just hoping that I was just wondering, did you find something that I, that I did?

No, I haven't found anything. I haven't looked. It's a good question though, but I just haven't had time. All right. Right. I understand. Thank you very much. Well, you're welcome very much. God bless you. All right.

I do want to research that if I can be interesting. All right. Uh, we have four open lines. Why don't you give me a call? 877-207-2276. Let's get to Alberto from Georgia.

Alberta. Welcome back on the air, ma'am. Are you there? Alberto? We have a little phone problem again. Like we get every now and then.

I don't know. Alberto, are you there? Uh, Hey Keith, is there a problem? We off the air? Are we off?

It's a phone problem or is it just Alberto? He's going to check. Okay. So I'll just stall here.

We don't want any dead air time. So, uh, we're still on the air, which everything's looking good. All right. Well, let's try it one more time. Let's see. Hey Alberto, you there?

No, he's not there. Okay. We'll just drop him. And then another call is coming in. We have four open lines. If you want to give me a call.

877-207-2276. I hope you guys enjoyed the, um, uh, the Bible study last night. There's not been a show on, I mean, not been a show on Odyssey since the fourth. Of course there has been or supposed to have been a Clicut on a regular basis. Uh, when I do the feed, maybe I, I missed, I don't know.

It's something to look at. Um, someone's ordered weekend rest for minister slick on the chat. Yeah, I wish.

Yeah. I haven't had a vacation in years. I got, I, you don't need a vacation. I need, I'm telling you what I need a house on the beach. That's what I need a house on the beach. I love water and uh, just the ocean and uh, just, I just sit out in the back and watch waves.

You go, Hey, look at that wave for like a month. Oh yeah. Okay. Let's get to, let's just jump on the lines here. We'll get to anonymous from Des Moines, Iowa. Anonymous. Oh, Hey, I just jumped in on you. So you wanted stuff by religious exemption, huh?

Right. Oh, hi. I'm at fleck. I'm calling from Wyoming and I wanted to thank you for, uh, posting all that information for religious exemption. Um, I'm a nurse and I'm probably going to be fired for not taking the vaccine and I'm hoping that your religious exemption would work. Uh, I'm not sure if it's going to work or not because the hospital I work for is predominantly Mormon. So they're the ones that are going to be reviewing my exemption.

Yeah. Um, I'm going to just give you some advice dealing with Mormons, um, that if you can get a audio recorder to record any meetings you have with them, that's what I would be doing all the time because, um, there, there are, let's just say there's plenty of instances around the, uh, the globe of Mormons, um, bankrupting people, doing things unethically because you're not a Mormon is justified to do some bad stuff. I'm not saying every Mormon is like that, but it happens a lot. I get a lot of stories like that. So that's one issue. And, um, you're just seek, you're just, you know, now let me ask you, you're a nurse. Tell us all, why is it you don't want to get the vaccine? Um, one is, uh, you know, religious with the, uh, with the things going on for the aborted fetal cells. And I just take issue with the submission, uh, with it. Um, the other issue I have is I'm a frontline nurse and I take care of COVID, uh, patients and I see vaccinated injury people coming in.

And after seeing that, I don't even want to be involved with that. What do you mean vaccinated injury? Well, people that are coming in with pulmonary embolism, head bleeds, um, internal bleeding, um, stroke. How do you know it's related to the vaccine?

Just curious. Um, these people that are coming in, I've taken care of them previously and they don't have previous, um, health history. And then they get vaccinated and then all of a sudden there's a, a spike in, in these things. Yeah.

Yes. And we have, so all this business of people saying that it's the unvaccinated getting people sick. Um, that is not true. Half our patients are vaccinated. Although we do have a small hospital, um, we have a large hospital that we ship people to.

And, uh, I've talked to the flight people and, uh, who fly, you know, patients across the United States and they said 80% of those patients are vaccinated that are getting sick with COVID-19. Yep. This is, uh, this is it. But you know what, you're not preaching the proper, uh, the status quo. You're not preaching the proper message.

Submission and obedience is the proper message. And, uh, you know, so I don't want the vaccine. That's my personal opinion.

My brother has had it. Okay. I, you know, that's fine.

That's up to you. And you know, but, um, I don't want to do it. And, uh, the religious fact, the religious issue is important because they're using aborted fetal material in a development and or testing of the vaccines. And that is an ethical violation as far as a Christian goes.

We can't benefit from the death of the unborn. I know. And that's, that's an issue. And that's something that the Mormon population where I work at don't understand that. Yeah.

Because you know, they, they, uh, heard from their alleged prophet from Utah and they said, you guys need to take the vaccine to save the church. And a lot of that, can you hold on? We've got a break.

Would you want to continue? Cause I'm glad to talk to you some more. Okay. Hey, hold on then. Hey folks, we have one open line eight seven seven two zero seven two two seven six. We're right back. It's Matt Slick live. Taking your calls at eight seven seven two zero seven two two seven six.

Here's Matt Slick. All right, everyone. Welcome back to the show. All right.

Let's get back on with anonymous from Des Moines, Iowa. Okay. So what were you going to say?

Uh, this is, uh, from Wyoming still. Yes. You know, I'm still on there. Oh yeah.

Okay. And um, another thing too is that, um, you know, I actually survived COVID. I was hospitalized for respiratory failure and those people who took care of me, they harassed me in that hospital for not being, uh, not being vaccinated.

I had two of them come in and I was really sick and they're asking me why I didn't get the vaccine. Wow. Yeah. It's a serious illness.

I thought it was inappropriate. It is a serious illness. I'm not knocking, getting vaccines. Um, but, uh, yeah, you know, they don't have the right to do that kind of thing and hassle you. And, uh, you know, you make your, your statements, it's you and your life unless of course it's, you know, you're pregnant and you can kill the baby, but that's another thing.

Hypocrisy of the left. Yes, it is. Yeah, it is. But, uh, but I, um, really appreciate everything you do.

I signed up for your school and I'm listening to a lot of your podcasts for, uh, talking with Mormons, which is helping me out a lot because they were trying to convert me when I started working there. Yeah, they will. Yeah, they will. And they're nice people.

They just, uh, they just, they just believe in a false God and a false gospel and false Christ. Yeah, they do. Yep. That's right.

They do. And you debate really well with them and I wish you could come here and debate with them. Well, you know what, if people want me to come speak at their church and do an evangelism thing, apologetics thing, I can do quite a bit and, and hopefully teach a lot of people. It's up to them, you know, I'm always available or do online seminars or whatever. So, yeah. Okay. All right.

Well, uh, it was great talking with you. Thanks for taking my phone call. You're welcome and God bless. All right. All right. God bless you.

You know, if nurses and or doctors want to call anonymously and talk about all this, I'm good with that. That's fine. All right. Let's get on the line with Chris from Indiana.

We lost Chris. Let's get to, how about this? Let's see. Next longest waiting is Logan from Burlington, North Carolina. Logan. Welcome. You're on the air.

Hey Matt, happy Friday. Hey, thank you. Hey, uh, I got, I got a question about the rapture. Okay.

Yeah. So I was just wondering about the vaccine and all that. And, uh, if this has any type of biblical significance, well, I don't think the vaccine really does. I don't really think it does. Uh, you know, vaccines are good things for the most part, uh, have saved millions and millions of lives are very good. The question becomes when can they be used to exert control over a population? That is the kind of thing we need to be concerned about.

It's supposed to be that you have your own right to be able to accept it or not accept it without being punished by the government for not submitting to its will. That's the concern. That's the concern. Major concern I've got. Well, besides that and the aborted fetal material. So use it, but, uh, if I'm not able to go ahead, if I'm not able to go to the grocery store and be able to work and I lose my job and my whole life basically, you know, uh, differently than what it was, what I planned it to be. Um, and that, that, that, that's happening for a lot of Americans. So I'm just kind of wondering if this has any, any type of, you know, biblical significance. Yeah, I don't know.

Um, you know, what I can do is ask questions and then answer variations of the answers. Um, you know, we, we don't want a sickness to come through a population and wipe it out if there's a real sickness and there's a vaccine that's not going to hurt you. Uh, and it's really a good thing that, you know, it's wise to take it. If there are reports of people having problems with it, then there needs to be, it needs to be slowed down and examined. And like I said, I keep bringing this up. Uh, the government's inconsistency is causing problems when they demand that we take it and yet they don't demand that the illegals take it as they open the border and let them flood in. Uh, the hypocrisy is so clear that it's w I believe it's not a health issue.

It's a, it's a political agenda issue that causes me to just put the brakes on. I don't trust them. I don't trust it.

Yeah. It's kind of strange how they're not making the Congress or the senators get vaccinated, you know, all the high ranking people. Um, I like documentation on that.

If there's documentation on that, I want it because this is the kind of stuff I need, you know, and ask the questions. Why are the government, if it's, if it's verified, why is it the government officials don't want to get vaccinated, but they want everybody else to, why is it the government officials do things like, Hey, you guys need to be taxed at this, this rate, but we're exempt. You know, the hypocrisy is there. You can't trust a government that is hypocritical. It doesn't watch out for the, the, uh, the best for its own population. And when our government opens up the borders against the law and then penalizes people for enforcing that law, threatens the border patrol agents for enforcing the law segment, they can't do saying, we need to be vaccinated, but they don't. It is absolutely a political thing.

And then when they push through simultaneously, all this crap going on, they pushed through a trillions, trillions of dollars, a spending bill and their socialist stuff woven all through it. You come on, you know, it's like, no, no, no, no. I don't, I don't, you know, and then some people go, no, you gotta take that vaccine. Why? Well, you can't eat by yourself.

What is going on? Yeah. It's a control thing. That's how I see it. That's my opinion. Yeah. The, the pianist that are at our church actually got vaccinated and uh, she, she's not able to, she's not able to play her piano anymore. She actually got this thing called a cerebral palsy and she's got, uh, she paralyzed in her hand and Eric Clapton hospital now.

Eric Clapton lost the use of his hands. Yes. Yeah. After a vaccination, I think he got them back, but it was like that for weeks. He put up a video against the vaccine. You don't hear about that on the news media. Yeah.

It seems like it's kind of selective what you do. Yes. Yeah. Now my brother's had it and he's fine.

You know, he didn't have any problems and I know a pastor's wife who had it. No problems. Okay.

No problem. But wait a minute. I mean, personally, I believe that I believe that God is strong enough where, you know, if you receive 20 vaccines, it's not going to do anything.

If God, you know, wants to protect you from all that. That's right. Would you, would you agree with that? Oh yeah. Yeah. I would agree with that. That's right.

He'll take care of you. And, um, but we have to be wise also. And if we race our car and we get in a car accident and we say, well, God wants to protect me.

No, you were being stupid. So we need to be smart in what we do and trust God as we go along. And I know a lot of Christians are losing their livelihoods because they don't want to participate in a vaccine that was developed in part at the expense of human life, the precious human life in the womb. And that we are then benefiting from that. That's qualifies as religious exemption as far as I'm concerned, which the constitution of United States says we're not to pass any law that prohibits the free exercise of it. Congress shall not do that.

It doesn't mean companies can't do that. So now we have our budget companies run by leftists who don't care about our religious rights. They think they're ridiculous, you know, and, and me, I would love to debate them. I would love to debate publicly, nationally, these guys on abortion, on, uh, um, morality on rights, on all this stuff. I would debate them, but see the left doesn't want people who debate. They want to have an agenda because if people are debate that what happens is the other side can be presented.

They don't want that. They control the information. This is what socialism does. The rise of socialism and unfortunately more and more of the youth are so brainwashed or useful idiots. They say it's okay to censor people because you have to have the right things to say.

Then it's okay to be free to speak and more and more of the youth believe in this and they don't realize that it'll come knock on their door one day. Yeah. Anyway, I'm actually about to be losing my college degree because my college is going to require the vaccine. Um, I guess I could do a religious exemption, but try it. I don't know. I don't know if you get a lawyer, sue them. Yeah. And if I were in there, um, I'd be recording every meeting I had with them and um, I would, uh, I'll be looking into getting a lawyer and I'd be looking into suing them because you can take classes without having to be on campus.

There's no need for you to have to get vaccinated. It's a political, uh, it's political, um, what's it called? Uh, uh, blackmail.

You have to submit to what we want you to do with your own body or we're not going to let you have a degree. This is totalitarianism. It's ridiculous. It just seems like communism at this point. Yes. Cause communism and socialism are forms of totalitarianism.

Yeah. They're in control of our government completely just in the past three years. Well, the Christians, the Christian need to stand up. There needs to be a conference online what we can do about this, what we need to do to be united.

That's the only way that we're going to get back America is if we all come together. You know what I'm saying? Oh, and someone just wrote in the thing, no, no vaccination, no kidney transplants or organ transplants are now being denied. You don't have a vaccine. So in other words, we're gonna let you die if you don't take a vaccine. This is not America anymore.

It's a socialistic regime in the, in the, the old shadow of a, of an actual Republic under constitution with people who are running the country who are basically not really elected. We can't trust the election results. I certainly don't. And you don't trust the government equity. I don't trust them.

I don't. And I'm saying it over the radio. How long, which longer before I get arrested for what I say, you know, you got, you got to stand up for truth. I'm standing up for being persecuted. I've been persecuted, been swatted, been threatened with death that had Satanists say they're going to kill me and my family. I've been followed in cars with a threat with physical abuse.

I've had various things happen and I grew up with bullies and I tell you, it just emboldens me to fight harder all the more. That's just me. And I have a large voice. I have thousands of people on an email list.

I've got thousands of people daily, minimum 15,000 a day come into the website and we've got a radio show. And so I'm going to continue to speak and promote the Lord Jesus Christ. And people have got to know this. Jesus is Lord of every area of life, political, medical, everything, home, church, family, everything. He's the Lord of everything. And we Christians need to submit to his Lordship in all areas. We have the right and the obligation to examine the issue of truth because all truth corresponds to the mind of God and what God says is true. What he reveals is true and we need to study his word, study Jesus and live accordingly.

And if the government's lying to us that we need to expose that lie for telling the truth, we need to submit to that truth. Yes, sir. Um, I got a question. How do I join your email list? Bottom of the car home page. Just go to the home page. Bottom of the page.

It says Joan, I'll join up for the newsletter. Okay. I should.

That's a good question. I really appreciate it. I really appreciate your help. Thanks a lot, man. Call back on Monday. Everybody call back on Monday. We're out of time. I'm sorry about that. I hate that, but we got to go.

That was Logan and sorry, Alan from California and Alberto from Georgia. Hey everybody, I hope you have a great weekend. May the Lord bless you by his grace. We're back on the air and it'll be by his grace. We'll talk to you next week. God bless. Bye. Another program powered by the truth network.
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