Matt Slick Live

The following program is recorded content created by the Truth Network. It's Matt Slick Live. Matt is the founder and president of the Christian Apologetics Research Ministry, found online at Carm.org. When you have questions about Bible doctrines, turn to Matt Slick Live for answers, taking your calls and responding to your questions at 877-207-2276. Here's Matt Slick.

Hey everybody, welcome to the show. It's me, Matt Slick, and you're listening to Matt Slick Live. Today's date is June 29th, 2026. If you want, you can give me a call. And it's easy, 877-207-2276.

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So, you know, as you often have. comments about encounters and stuff. One of the things I want to talk about is the encounters I've had recently with Eastern Orthodox believers. And also, I watched the movie last night. I watched Disclosure Day.

I want to talk about that as well. And so uh Uh, it was interesting. It was an interesting movie. I want to comment about that. I wrote a movie review on it, and uh, I'll talk about that a little bit.

Let's get to Alberto. From George Alberta, welcome. You're on the air. Yes, you're on the air. Yes, sir.

How are you doing?

Okay, I got a question. How do you balance? With God enslaving his future other foreign nations to enslave Israel. versus African slavery. And the slaves didn't enslave uh didn't sell other slaves that they pay trade.

What's your qui just give me a basic question. What was God used God using foreign nations to enslave Israel compared to African slaves?

Well, when God had other nations enslave and work against Israel, it was punishment. for Israel's idolatry. And modern day, so to speak, past few hundred years, slavery is, of course, not God's discipline. At least I don't know if it is or isn't on nations, but it doesn't seem to be. And it's not the same kind of slavery that was experienced inside of Israel, which was not chattel slavery.

So there was this different different context, different uh different things.

Okay.

Okay, so I hear t videos I seen On YouTube the guy said that Africans didn't sell other applicants, but they were the scores were different. Africans did not catch or sell other Africans? Is that what they say? No, they were Israelites because the atheists were different compared to the African skulls. The African skulls were elongated.

You know, I don't know about that stuff. I have no idea. And a lot of people just say things. Our skulls are different, whatever. Um So I wouldn't put any credence to anything like that.

People's skulls are just different because they're just different. And uh that's it. They didn't sell out some selling out some big trade for goods in the job. I don't know who the they is. Look, you're giving me a lot of stuff so generalized from people, I don't know what they're talking about.

I really don't have the ability to respond very cogently to what it is you're saying.

Alright.

Okay, so so basically the w So doing so on slavery, doing Israel's time was totally different compared to modern slavery. It was not shadow slavery.

Okay.

So Israel was treated.

So when Rome enslaves other countries, it's it they do a chattel slavery either in that time either. Yes, Israel did not have chattel slavery because chattel slavery means that. the person is actually it means the person is actually owned and it as property. But in the Jewish context, when a slave left or escaped or did whatever, he was not to be returned. As property was.

He was not property. There was other things going on. A lot of people don't know that. But and I've written a lot on on it as well. But Okay, we did on your articles, on your website?

Yes, yes. If you go to Carm, I think, let me just check. If you go to Carm forward slash. Slavery, was it half? Yeah, and you can see articles I've written on it, okay?

About okay, all right, that will show my friends and minds. All right, thank you. Sure, no problem. Thank you.

Okay.

Hey folks, if you want to give me a call, we have wide open lines, 877-207. 2276.

Okay, so last night I watched the movie Disclosure Day, and the reason I did. was because someone said To me, on, I think it was a Saturday. I said, Matt, you need to watch it because it's anti-Christian. I said, Oh, okay, you know, so I like to watch movies on Sunday night because as late as possible, as few people in the theater as possible, because they are there specifically not to watch the movie, but to irritate me because they're talking, going on their phones, talking to each other, and eating candy out of bags that are designed for the maximum amount of sound dispersion of the cat. Drives me crazy.

And so I go on Sunday nights. It's just my little whine there. And so, but you know, it turned out really nicely. There were a few people in the theater and. And people actually made comments about it on the way out.

They they made comments, and uh so I got in a conversation with a couple of people. They thought it was very interesting. But what was the movie about? It's about uh disclosure days about the idea of a of the proof in this fictional story, the proof that there's actual aliens from actual spaceships that have been been around for many decades and that the US government has known about it, and etcetera. And so it was kept under wraps because of what might happen to society.

That was a basic thing. And so, disclosure day is: well, it gets disclosed that they're real. And that's not a plot, not giving it away because it's called Disclosure Day. It's the movie.

So I'm just saying on Disclosure Day.

So what happens? And Um So It was interesting because I'm gonna just say the the This bit, there's great car chase scenes in there, a great car and a train scene. I've never seen that done before, it was really well done. And the acting was all good. Emily Blunt does a great job.

Uh the CGI animals were, in my opinion, below below par. But uh you know it worked. And the plot was pretty interesting. It's a good plot twist. No sex scenes, which is great.

And I don't even know if they even kissed anybody 'cause I don't know. Anyway, but so the issue here was what would happen to society. If um Aliens are proven to be real. Would it then collapse, for example, Christianity?

Now I'm going to say a compliment actually to Spielberg at this because he had a one of the characters, a nun. And the discussion occurs about this very topic, and the nun says. Why would it Okay. it wouldn't uh affect Christianity. What's the big deal?

And I agree. Even if there were aliens, I don't grant that there's aliens out there. The mathematics doesn't allow it. The mathematical improbability of abiogenesis is just massively, incomprehensibly against it. And uh My personal opinion is that they're just demonic forces.

And. We can get it another time. But the movie, I didn't think it was particularly anti-Christian. I thought it was anti-ignorance and what would happen to people. This raises the questions.

It doesn't answer the questions, except some proposals. One side says it'll be an economic collapse, and the other said, no, it won't. And it went back and forth, and then upon disclosure, you don't see what happens. It just ends at that point. I think it would be interesting if you made a part two or sequel to that movie.

I think it would be interesting because you could run through a lot of scenarios of what possible scenarios in your mind might occur.

So I wrote a slight movie review. When I do movie reviews, I do them differently than a lot of people. I haven't done one for a couple of years, and I just write the, hey, I enjoy this, didn't enjoy it, didn't. And I say, didn't have any. I mentioned sex scenes and cussing.

Do they have these in there or not? They want Christians to know if they're there. And stuff like that. And so there's that, and I wrote a review on that.

Now that reminds me. Friday night, um One of my brothers-in-law, my late wife, texted me about a movie. I think it was called. Civ Citizen Vigilante. And he said, Have you heard of this movie?

And I said, No, what is it? And we're texting, and he was saying, It's been banned in Germany. This movie for real. Is recently released and banned in Germany. And I heard another country is is downplaying it quite a bit.

And Musk, Elon Musk, let it be on X for free for forty-eight hours. Because it was banned in some countries. And what it's about is the. immigration invasion that's happening And The vigilante goes after the immigrants who are I'm going to be careful how I say things here, because there might be children listening, but let's just say that there's a lot of crime and sexual crime that has been on the humongous increase since the uh Muslim Uh Um immigrants. I've come in.

Because Islam teaches that women are to cover themselves up because. If they don't, it's their fault that they're tempting men. And so, if men do something bad to them in that context of being aroused and done it, then it's the woman's fault.

So, this is the kind of stupid, stupid mentality that's there in that. And this is addressed in there. And let's just say that this vigilante. takes care of business. And at the very end of the movie, they made a statement, and I actually, my eyes, I just bugged out.

Like, are you kidding me? You actually said that on the movie at the end, and it's talking about this topic. And it's hitting uh the nerves with a lot of people. They It's very interesting. And years ago, I haven't done an update.

But years ago on the website CARM, I did Islamic statistics. And let's see if I can find it really quickly. Islamic statistics on violence, RAPE. I'm going to be careful how I say things: Sharia, terror, things like this. And uh So they're about 10 to 15 years old, some of these stats.

But You could go through and you could look it up. Islamic statistics on violence. If you go to Carm, look it up and you can see I've got the documentation and stuff like this. But it's bad. It is bad.

Because they're coming into Western countries and crime rates just skyrocket. And I've heard all kinds of statistics. of uh they're on the dole, they're on welfare. And then they go around in gangs and do stuff. And I've seen videos.

Where just a girl in Europe is just walking and they'll attack her. because uh she's not dressed the way they want her to be dressed. And so they impose their values and they are violent. Uh So anyway, it's an interesting movie. It's called Citizen Vigilante or Vigilante Citizen.

I think it's Citizen Vigilante. And I watched a couple of uh reviews on it uh this morning when I was cleaning the kitchen. And uh Now I'm not advocating violence, of course, but um It seems to be touching a thread. on on um in a lot of a lot of people's lives.

So it's interesting, it's interesting. And that reminds me. That reminds me, I'm going to touch on this. Do Christians Have the right. of physical self-defense.

Do they? You know, with the breaks coming up here in a little bit, and what I'm going to do is go through this article. that I wrote back uh in 2021. and go through some stuff. that the Bible talks about.

I did a really extensive study. On what the Bible says about the self-defense and violence, when it's appropriate, when it's not. And it actually suggests when it's appropriate. For real, the Bible actually suggests it. And let's just say the the information is being passed out to Christians in Nigeria.

The information in the article is: we have a connection there, and the Christians. are being murdered. by Muslims. With AK-47s and motorcycles coming into villages and just decimating. And our contact there has known 15 pastors who've been killed by Muslims.

In the past few years. Anyway, we got the break there. I'm going to come back. I'm going to go over the issue of do Christians have the right of physical self-defense. We'll get through that.

If you want to give me a call, the number is 877-207-2276. I'll be right back. It's Matt Slick Live, taking your call at 877-207-2276. Here's Matt Slick. All right, buddy, welcome back to the show.

Before we get into this discussion on the right of self-defense, which I think is a very important topic, I'm going to get to Roger from Utah really quickly. Roger, welcome. You're on the air. Hi, Matt. I met you a few years, several years ago, but I was.

We used to listen to Sean McCraney and his show Heart of Matter and actually have accepted G left Mormonism. But I've been out of touch with them for several years, and recently I had gotten on YouTube and noticed that he was A couple of things that he is now promoting himself as Sean the Baptist. And also that he has on his website. A course that you can buy on how to start a cult. And um When I was listening to him about the differences between Mormonism and Biblical Christianity, I found it interesting, but now I'm I'm just wondering uh if what's going on here, because it just doesn't sound right to me.

Yeah, I've I've known Sean. Yeah, sure. Uh I I've known Sean and met him m many times. I don't even know if I still have his cell number. But, long story short, I wouldn't trust him.

Okay.

He's got the heresies. And we our first encounter was at a restaurant and I happened to be down in the area. And so we met and we talked. And one of his comments was, I forget what the topic was, but he was being challenged by certain theological and logical issues. And I answered him.

And I said, What about this? He said, No one's ever answered him that way before, where it made sense. And we, you know, we hit off a good relationship from then on. And I liked Sean the whole bit. But long story short, he's gone off the deep end, okay?

The wheels came off his cart.

Okay.

Okay, and the other thing I wanted to ask, if it's okay, Matt, is that he's teaching this. thing on on that Jesus already came back uh preterism and it's kind of bothered me a little bit. And I want to know what you think about that. Praetorism is false in that it teaches that Jesus returned in the armies of Jerusalem, armies of Rome, and attacked Jerusalem in 70 AD.

Now The refutation is very clear. You go to Acts 1, starting at verse 9. And it says, after he said these things, he, that's Jesus, would lift it up while they were looking on, and a cloud recede them out of their sight.

So Jesus ascended into heaven physically. He went up into the clouds, into the sky. That's where it is. And as they were gazing intently into the sky, he was holding behold two men with white clothing stood beside them and said, Men of Galilee, why do you stand looking into the sky? in the Greek as heavens, why are you looking up into the sky?

This Jesus who's been taken from you into heaven will come in just the same way you've watched him go into heaven. That's how the prophecy is that he's going to return.

So, this refutes praetorism. And I know the counter-arguments preterists give for this. The sky can mean this, and the crowd can mean that. And then they just spiritualize the bejeebras out of it. But It just simply says that's how he's going to come back.

So he did not come back in the issue of the Of the armies of Jerusalem and Preterism is refuted.

Okay.

Is that simple?

So it's called preterism.

So it's pre so if we're traditional Christians, which I believe I've become, then we are still looking forward Jesus' coming, or second coming, I guess we call it. Right. The second coming has not occurred, and when it occurs, the rapture will occur because they're on the same day. And Jesus says in Luke 24, after the tribulation of those days, the rapture will occur when he sends forth his angels to gather people. And in 1 Thessalonians 4, 16 through 5, verse 2, the gathering of the people occurs on the last day, the day the Lord comes like a thief in the night, which is the same day that the new heavens and new earth are made.

So this stuff is very basic, very easy. And all you got to do is believe the Bible and you don't have any problem. But I just, you know, I don't even know if Sean's listening right now. He might be listening because he's down in the area and my radio show is down there. But I wouldn't trust him.

And I wouldn't trust his j judgment geologically.

Okay.

Can I say one more thing, Matt? Sure, real fast. Yeah. I support I help support praise Buy and price center. It's a it's a it's in Nigeria and And Pastor Joe Milcoy, you know, he was just telling, he just recently told me about.

In fact, he sent something to me about how they're killing Christians over there and everything.

So I'm really going to look forward to that article. I'm going to go on your website and look that article up. He actually got invited to go to Washington to meet with Paula White, whose Donald Trump's putting in charge of some kind of a a scene where they're in where they're where they're looking into this stuff that's going on. Apparently it's horrible about how these Christians are being killed in Nigeria.

So I'm glad that you're saying something about that. Yes. We have boots on the ground there and uh on Fridays we have meetings and things like this. And uh I don't want to give too much information now, but we call him Moses. And that's not his real name.

And uh we let's just say we've received videos and received stuff of of beatings and killings and things like this that are going on. It's been going on for a long time. He's had his life threatened uh more than once. He's had to leave his uh Is his home. Uh did flee and they shot it up and they're after him and there's a fat waw against him to kill him.

And a miracle occurred when he was arrested in Nigeria a couple years ago. He was arrested for passing out literature. And the literature exposes Islam, one of the things. And of all things, I think, was an Islamic judge who set him free. And we just don't understand what happened.

But it was a it was a miracle. That is a miracle. Yeah. And he's a great guy and uh He's got a doctorate, and we support him financially. It's one of the things we do.

It's one of the reasons we need support. In fact, I'm due next week. to go pay our missionaries. I I try and pay them every two or three months in advance. That way it's cheaper for us in the long run.

And if we do that, and if we don't have enough, we can't pay them a month and we've got to do monthly, which costs more money because of fees and things like this. But. And we support him. And uh and we also support a guy in Mal Malawi. in Africa.

We have two guys in Mala in Africa we support. And what's your I'll check into that when I go. I can Google it, but what's your website where I can donate? Sure, it's carm.org, C-A-R-M dot O-R-G. Christian Apologetics Research Ministry.

Yeah. And uh I what I need to do is I need to get a A URL, I can just have forwarded to it. I'm going to do that. I've got to do that. Anyway, so that's what's going on.

And, um,. And we support, and we do have support. In fact, let's use this as an opportunity. Folks, if you want, support this ministry. It keeps the radio on the air, the website running, and the missionaries paid.

Those are the main issues. And then we have taxes, we've got to pay ministries. Anyway, so we do need that. And just go to carm.org at the top of the page, you'll see the word donate, and we ask some people help us out. Because this is for real.

All right.

Well, I I listen to I don't catch your show all the time, but uh When I when I'm in my car and I'm listening, I Find it on this station, and whenever I do, I listen to it, Matt. And thank you very much.

Well, praise God. Thank you.

Appreciate it.

Okay.

God bless. Thank you.

Okay.

God bless you too. All right.

Okay.

All right, now we got a break coming up here, so I'm going to get to Brent from North Carolina, and then after the break, I'll do the self-defense thing. Then we'll get to Elijah. Go ahead, Brent. You're on the air. Hey, Mr.

Br uh Mac, how are you doing today? There's the break. Man, I was off a minute.

Okay, hold on, brother.

Okay, we got a break. We'll be right back after these messages. Before you give me a call, the number is 877-207-2276. We'll be right back. It's Matt Slick live, taking a call at 877-207-2276.

Here's Matt Slick. All right, everybody, welcome back to the show. Let's get back on with Brent real fast from North Carolina. Brent, welcome. You're on the air.

Hey, Mr. Mike Schlick, how are you today, Terry? Doing all right. I'm just hanging in there. Hanging in there, where you got it?

All right.

Do y'all ever discuss about the Hebrew Israelites? The people that the chosen people, do y'all ever discuss on your program about them? Yes, it's a racist group that's false, and if you believe in his doctrines, you're going to be eternally damned. Yeah, we talk about it. Yes, sir.

Why why is it, you know, you're saying so? Do you believe in Abraham? Do I believe in Abraham? Yes. Ardic?

Jacob? And it's where Patriarch. They existed, yes, they did.

So do they still exist to this day? Yeah. No, those those gentlemen died. Abraham doesn't live any more. He died Thousands of years ago.

No, the Patriarchs, the twelve tribes, sir, Zebola, the twelve tribes, yes, they do. They still exist, but God knows who they are.

Okay.

Where are they at? Do you know where they're located?

Well, Judah is not the American blacks. Benjamin is not the West Indian Blacks. The Levites are not the Haitians. Ephraim's not the Puerto Ricans, etcetera. We we didn't we deny that.

Okay.

Yes, sir. Okay, so you don't believe that if you don't give back the Hebrew Israelites their stuff and what they rightly deserve, don't be able to curse and come upon you. No, I believe that you're believing in a false gospel, a false God, and that black Hebrew Israelite stuff is just a racist or a group. That's what I believe.

Well, I will concur in some instances. You're right. A lot of them are racist. But there are some out here that do show the love of your highway. Yeah, I mean, we're racist groups.

Right, yeah, I've been caught a while. I agree. I've been called a white devil by some of them, uh, more than once, you know. Mm-hmm. But you can't do that.

Even though, you know, you still have rock, rock, racist Christians as well now.

So you can't just put it on. all on the Hebrew Israelites, you do have well you concur, you have uh Christians that are racist as well. Oh yeah, yeah. There's racism all over the place. And it sh needs to be abandoned, yes.

But the Black Hebrew Israelites, or the BHI as it's called, is just a false group.

Okay.

All right.

Well, I will concur with something interesting what you're saying, but there is a true group, there's a true people out here that is living for him, honoring him. No, there's not, because you know not uttering him truthfully. It is Elohim, not God. God is a pagan title. It is not Lord, that's a pagan title.

Those are pagan titans. Either Elohim Or Adona. Yeah, that you're just showing your ignorance, I'm sorry, but you don't understand. The word the Lord is simply from out of nine, which is something the Jews themselves did, to show respect and honor to him, to God, that's all. And Yahweh is is uh his name.

Okay.

That's correct. Yahuwah is his name. Yahushua HaMashiach is the Savior of the world. Do you acknowledge that? uh Jesus, God in flesh, is a Savior of the world.

Yeah. What about Yahushua Wahamashiach? We go by what the Bible says. His name is Jesus. Matthew 1:21 should call his name in Greek Jesus.

That's what the Bible says.

So that's what we do. Yes, I understand.

Well, that's what itchy ears want to hear, nothing but lies, so that's where they're getting. And they're going to get it at the end, right here, because it's right here, owners. The demons are coming to get you.

Now their demons are already here and they're in the BHI.

So do you believe that Jesus Christ is God in flesh? No, sir. I don't believe that Jesus Christ died for my sins. I believe that Yahushua died for my sins, and he's Elohim in the flesh. All right.

So Jesus is God in flesh, according to the Bible.

Okay, so. Uh Yeah. Oh. Uh and you said what, sir? What verse?

John 1, 1 and verse 14, Colossians 2.4 or Colossians 2.9. Go to Acts 25 through 28. We go to Hebrews 1, 6 through 8. John 14, 23. Yeah, lots of verses talking about him being God in flesh.

Yes, sir. He did become God's flesh. John once in the beginning was the word, the word was with Elohim, and the word was Elohim. And the word became flesh and dwelt among us, which is Yehushua Mishiach. That no, it doesn't say that.

See, if you're not. If you change God's word to make your theology fit, then your theology isn't in the Bible. It doesn't say in the beginning was Elohim, it says God, which is the Greek word theos. Elohim is the name of God.

Okay, that's what it is, the name of God. Right. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. That's a title, not a name, sir.

No, Yahweh is the the name of of God. You you say that God is a name. No, uh God is the word in Greek theos, the word Elohim is the Hebrew word for God. The name of God is Yahweh. That's correct.

But in your Bible, it says, in the name of the Lord, in the name of God.

Okay, correct?

Okay, it just depends on what verse you're talking about. But since you deny that Jesus Christ is God in flesh. You can't be saved.

Well, not through yours. Acts 4 and 12, there is no other name under heaven by which man must be saved. And what name is that? No, it's means all praise to Yah. No, the word there is is Jesus.

Because that's the context where it goes. And Jesus is mentioned two verses earlier. It's Jesu Christas in Greek.

Okay, so it's not yet. The Greek Yeah. Yeah. Who were the Greeks? Do you know?

Who are the Greeks? The Greeks were the Greeks. Greeks were pagans. Yes, John. The Romans were pagans.

Alexander the Great came through 300 years B.C. and conquered the Mediterranean area, and Greek became the common language. And so the New Testament is written in Greek, okay, and in Greek it says by the name of Jesus, Jesus Christas. Jesus Christas, okay? That's what it says.

Oh, what's the Hebrew name though? There is no Hebrew name there in Axefort. It's not a Cebre name. It's Greek. You telling me that our Savior don't have a Hebrew language?

But there's no recorded Hebrew name for Jesus. Not in the new not in the Bible. Really? Wow. You need to do your little study, sir, because.

There is a Hebrew name which is Yahushua. Is it in the New Testament? It's not going to be in your pagan books because it's been altered and edited by the councils of Nicillia, Trent, and Constanobo. No, you've been brainwashed. You've been brainwashed.

56 books, sir. There's 88 books, sir. Not 56. You've been brainwashed, okay? You're open by.

It's a cult, and you're in a cult, and you need to repent. And when I I ask you things, you just kind of change a topic a little bit.

So there are there is no Greek manuscript that has the Hebrew spelling of anything. It's all in Greek.

So his name is Jesus.

Alright.

Okay.

Okay.

Now, what are you talking about? We question our question a couple weeks ago. We're talking about the aliens. Do you believe? that aliens are coming into the White House are are are part of the religions now?

What do you think about that?

Well, yeah, aliens are definitely in the White House in many areas uh of Congress and Senate are called Democrats. Do you think they'll hear them? all these Illuminati's, all these best killing, you think it's all aliens? No, I'm just I was just saying the Democrats weren't the Democrats' party's moving towards communism and uh I have no respect for Democrats at all. And um I it's making a joke there about um yeah, what?

Uh-huh. What? Do you think it's all corrupt? I think Democrat, Republican, all is corrupt. I don't know.

I don't know. I don't know if every individual there is corrupt, but I believe if, for example, the Democratic Party is an anti-Christ, ungodly, anti-American party. Folks, you don't send the real public diet either? Republicans are where the Democrats used to be in the 60s and 70s. They're moving towards a bad way, too.

They're getting worse. I'm not a Democrat or a Republican. But do you not think we it was all set up to work? and our corruption when it was created. Republican Antiki division.

The Republican Party, if I remember Kreppy, was generated or started to work against slavery in the 1800s. The Democratic Party is the party of slavery. and oppression. And I have documentation on it. Yeah.

Okay.

Right. But you need to come to Jesus Christ. You need to come to the Lord Jesus and believe and trust in Him.

Okay.

And the Trinity is true. Jesus died on the cross, rose from the dead. He rose from the dead three days later.

Okay.

But down, but there. Do do do the ethos equal belief of the Hebrew Israelites? Uh uh uh do the do the Hebrew Israeli Probably Lean out or do the East C East Count Sea probe leading? Couldn't I'm not sure what you're saying. Esau, the Edomites you're talking about?

Right. Elements which is like they're live in creatures. They ain't supposed to be challenging but he's like supposed to come in and be challenged. Um You're not very precise in how you're asking the question, and there's a lot behind what you're saying. But you know what?

There's the music.

So we're going. I got to get to an article after the break, and then we'll get to it after Elijah. Anyways, we got to go.

So nice talking to you, Brent. Hey, Elijah from Pennsylvania, stay tuned, because after the break, I'm going to read an article. We'll do a little bit of something about self-defense, and then we'll get to you. We'll be right back, folks, after these messages. Please stay tuned.

It's Matt Slick Live, taking your calls at 877-207-2276. Here's Matt Slick. All right, buddy, before we get to Elijah, I want to get to this article because I talked about it, and callers came in. But I want you to understand that you have the right as a Christian of physical self-defense. You have the right to do that.

And I was surprised by what I found in Scripture. In fact, in Luke 22:36, Jesus says to the disciples, buy a sword. Yeah, she told them. by a sword. Luke twenty two thirty six.

But I'm just going to go through some of the summary points of the article that I wrote. And it took a while, it was a very interesting article. But physical self defence is permitted, but is not an obligation. You have the right of physical self-defense, but you're not obligated. to defend yourself.

That's a critical statement. I'm not advocating violence per se, but I'm just saying you have the right of self-defense.

So when my wife was here, she, you know, if we're out someplace and we're shopping, if someone were to injure her or attack her, I'm going to defend her with violence if I have to. And no problem. And We have that right of defending others as well. Self-defense, if someone comes to me and attacks me, I have the right to self-defense, but not the obligation. If they want to attack me because I'm a Christian, I can just sit there and take it.

Yeah. But what's interesting is we have the right and the obligation to defend others. Psalm 8.82 and Proverbs 24, 11.

So we have this right where it says protect the wit the weak. and go out go after those who are harming the innocent. It tells us to do it. It tells us what the Bible does. We are not to take vengeance, however.

and we're to speak peace whenever possible. We'll go through the points and my and the summary points of the article. We are allowed to flee to avoid persecution. And we're to pray for our persecutors. We're to love our enemies, and we are going to realize we're in a spiritual battle.

You must defend the gospel. were to resist evildoers, and whether smaller in number, as well as bad governments, were to resist them.

So, you know, this comes down to the issue here in America. If our government becomes bad, are we obligated to resist it? Yes, we are.

So if the government says it's okay to or it promotes homosexuality and abortion. then we're to resist that, because it's against Scripture. And we have to understand things like this. We also have to understand our suffering is granted to us by God. That's Philippians 1:29.

And Um Here's a suggested plan of action. Generically speaking, about violence, pray for and love our persecutors. Seek peace with them. Seek a verbal self defence first. Uh seek a legal self-defense afterward.

and use physical uh force if necessary in order to protect oneself and others. Yeah. And this is the summation of what it is that we have there.

So, for example, the the uh the pagan Islamic religion. The Death Cult of Islam. That is a cancer in societies, that it overtakes societies. It's not consistent, and it doesn't work with. Democracy.

In fact, I recently read an article, I think it was Friday or Saturday, I wrote an article on this. Is Western civilization compatible with Islam? And the answer is no, it's not, because Islam is a religio-political movement, so it replaces constitutions. And it puts in Sharia. as the final arbiter of what rights you have.

It it doesn't work with a democracy. Republics. It doesn't do it.

So, as you can tell, I have no respect for Islam. It's a false religion. It denies all the essentials of the Christian faith, and it promotes violence. And the statistics demonstrate it. You can go to thereligionofpeace.com, thereligionofpeace.com, all one word, and you can see the documentation from sources all over the world of the The violence perpetrated on us by on the world, by Muslims.

In fact, the number now is 49,619. Since 9-11.

Okay, forty-nine thousand six hundred nineteen. And so uh from June twentieth to June twenty sixth Their jihad report: 21 attacks, 78 people are killed. Twenty four injured. uh in different in six different countries.

So Islam is like this.

Okay, now so do we have the right to defend ourselves against Muslims? Absolutely. The people in Nigeria have the right as Christians to defend themselves against the the Muslims who are coming in on motorcycles with weapons and killing people. that the Christians have the right of self defense. If I was there I'd be telling em that.

Yeah. But the Government in Nigeria doesn't want Christians or others to have weapons. And the leaders in Nigeria are a lot of most of them are Muslims.

So they're not going to equip or free the Christians to be able to defend themselves. Why? Because they're Muslim. That's why. I mean, if you've got to read Surah 9, it talks about fighting and killing people.

for Islamic uh progression.

So, uh it's bad news. But let me just say, you have the right of physical self-defense.

So if someone's breaking into your home, You have the right to defend yourself. you have the obligation to defend your family. If someone is being accosted, you have the obligation as a Christian. To to stop it within reason if you can. You know, it's not exactly always easy.

Check this out. This is Psalm 82. It says, Vindicate the weak and the fatherless. Do justice to the afflicted and destitute. Rescue the weak and needy.

Deliver them out of the hand of the wicked. That's what it says. And we're to do those kinds of things. And there's lots of verses in the scripture that talk about this, I think. Isaiah 1 talks about this kind of stuff too.

I'll try to remember. I was trying to get this straight, but um Or maybe it's not there. Yeah, probably some place else.

So We have that right, the obligation to defend ourselves. We have the right to defend ourselves, but we have the obligation to defend others.

So that's what I would say: is study the stuff. You can go to Psalm 82. Proverbs 24:11 talks about. the obligation to defend others. And but don't take vengeance.

Don't take vengeance.

So, anyway, folks, just letting you know that we have that right. And we're not to be pacifism, it is an option for Christians, it's not a necessity. That's just not common stuff taught from pulpits, but it needs to be. Let's get to Elijah from Pennsylvania. Elijah, welcome.

You're on the air. Hey man, um Uh Before I get to my scripture question, I just want to back right off of what you just said. I I've seen call in shows where atheists like to downplay you know the whole Christians being persecuted in Nigeria. They like to downplay and say it's not as bad. as uh of Christians in America are making it seem.

They're just trying to They're trying to make it seem all bad so they can try to play the victim. And then they'll also try to downplay the the violence that Muslims are causing in Europe and all that stuff and saying that it's just it's just white supremacists that are lying and trying to make it seem like foreigners are doing all this stuff. Yeah, they're just servants of the evil one and they they they use lies and false information. But yep. That's right.

So what what your question or Yeah. Yes, I'll get to my question now. Um, so. Um All right, so this is something that atheists like to point out.

So. They'll they'll s they'll point out when black people like to say that uh during slavery um Because of the slave Bibles that they gave black people, they removed the book of Exodus so Africans wouldn't read that and like get inspired to rebel and like try to free themselves and all that stuff. And black people like to say that Exodus is proof that God is against the enslavement and mistreatment of other people. But then atheists will bring up other passages in the Old Testament that say that no, just because God freed them doesn't mean that he's against slavery. He just chose to free those people.

And they'll go to passages like Leviticus twenty-five, forty-four through forty-six. Where they'll say this is just like shadow slavery because it's a generational. Possession, we cast down the uh slaves from generation to generation to be owned. by the family lineage and and they'll say that even in these passages here. uh v very cruel To your slaves, because it says that they were not allowed to.

Okay, well, hold on, hold on. You're saying a lot of things, and if you could do one at a time, I could address them.

Okay.

Do you need to ra raise a particular one? We can look at it one at a time. Yeah, so uh I guess we can Good.

So the argument that atheists bring up is that um Inherited slaves. Yeah, yeah, and that and that and that God permits being uh cruel Your slave because they can't work.

Okay, hold on. Let's just okay.

So. The inheritance issue of slavery, the individuals were not owned, it was the work that they would do. And Jews' slaves were set free in the year of Jubilee. Leviticus 25 talks about it.

Okay, and they were not to be returned to the owner. if the uh if the slave was mistreated. In fact, they were beaten, but so were they were under the exact same laws as others were beaten. And I've written on this. A lot of people don't realize that it wasn't just slaves who were struck with the canes and whatever it was, that other people too, Jewish people, were as well as part of the system.

And I have it recorded in Scripture. Both could be beaten for punishment. Deuteronomy 25, 1 through 3, Exodus 21, 20 through 21, Proverbs 22:15.

So what happens is a lot of times people are just they take one side of things and then they say, See, this is how bad it is. But they don't read context, they don't understand what's going on. I'm not saying slavery is okay, but I'm just saying it's not as bad as what they like to make up to be and how evil they want to make God out to be.

Okay.

Yeah. So so on to verse forty six, because they'd like to point out that it's Because I'm reading on Google where it's just like summarizing. It's not like we can break them to your sons to receive as a possession. You can use them as permanent slaves, but in respect to your countrymen, these sons of Israel, you shall not rule them with severity. Yeah, like on on on Google it it summarizes it up.

It says it differentiates this from the treatment of fellow Israelites who are not to be ruled ruthlessly. Right, non-Jewish slaves were mostly captured in war and sold to Jews or captured by Jews in war. the slaves were freed, they would have no immediate families by which they were to go, you know, and be economically sustained.

so what would happen is they would stay in households and they were passed down. I mean, I'm not saying it's right or wrong, I'm saying this is what's going on. A lot of times slaves wanted to stay in the households.

So, when there was a war going on, I'll go through this quickly because we're almost out of time. A war would go on and a country or nation was destroyed. Usually, it was the men who were destroyed, crops were destroyed, cattle was destroyed.

So, the means of production by which the The defeated could survive was greatly reduced. And a lot of times, if they were allowed to continue, they would rise up again and go against Israel.

So one of the orders was go in and dissipate them, distribute them among Israel, and they were then not able to rise up again. And so then the issue of them could be passed down, from what I understand, could be passed down to the sons and daughters. But they could be freed also. They could earn their freedom and they could just leave. But a lot of times the slaves would just say, I'm going to stay here, because they're being well treated.

And that's just part of history. They're called bond slaves at that point. Is this is this like something they did after they uh conquered like like Canaanites and like other tribes to like like make sure that they don't uh rise again and like stra start like like like commit sacrifice to be his babies. Right, there's logistical things that people just don't know about. And I'm not saying all these things are perfectly normal and good.

We judge them by our modern ears. But you know, if you talk call back tomorrow, we can go through some stuff and go and go with more particulars of why Why things are done the way they were and what they really mean.

Okay, we're out of time, brother though. Gotta go, okay? Hey folks, we are out of time. May the Lord bless you and by his grace. We'll be back on here tomorrow and we'll talk to you then.

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