Matt Slick Live

The following program is recorded content created by the Truth Network. It's Matt Slick Live. Matt is the founder and president of the Christian Apologetics Research Ministry, found online at carm.org. When you have questions about Bible doctrines, turn to Matt Slick Live for answers, taking your calls and responding to your questions at 877-207-2276. Here's Matt Slick.

Hey everybody, welcome to the show. It's me, Matt Slick. Listen to Matt Slick Live. I got a bit of a chest cold. It's a little one, so my voice is a little bit deeper than normal.

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That's really good.

So there you are with that. I want to hear from you. And we have three open lines. Three open lines if you want to jump in. Let's get to Jermaine from.

California Jermaine, welcome, buddy. You're on the air.

So hey Matt, um I was doing today. Oh, it's going. Already been busy. You know how it is. I'm always busy.

So yeah.

Okay. Yeah, you kind of sound like you have one one of those Batman voice modulators. Disguise your voice while fighting crime. Yeah, it's a little bit, just a little bit of congestion, and it's a little bit deeper than normal. But when my wife was still around, and we would be, and I'd get like this.

She'd go, ooh, nice.

So she always liked that. And uh anyway, working it.

So what do you got, buddy? What's up, man?

Well, um, I was just meditating on Luke chapter. 15, I think it's verse 10 around where it talks about rejoicing in heaven over the repentance of. of uh or or just over sanguine pentate. Right. Yeah, it just kind of got me thinking about the value of a human soul look at it cre at a creation and all Because would I be wrong in saying that one human soul would be worth more than the entire planet since the planet's just a creation essentially?

Of course. Yeah, because we're made in the image of God, that's where our value comes from.

Now a lot of people don't value human human life because their perspective is materialistic. But we know that the soul made in the image of God will continue for ever and ever.

Sorry Annihilationists, you're flat out wrong. And we know that God will bless us in heaven. And there's going to be sorrow on that day of judgment for those who are condemned to eternal power. Hellfire, and that's just the way that's going to be. Unfortunately, it's a reality.

But yeah, the human is worth a great deal because we are. Made in his image, and Jesus, who's a human, and still is, of course, died on the cross for our sins, thereby establish a big Establish a establishing even more. that we have that value before God. All right. Yeah.

Does the Bible really elaborate on why there's so much? Rejoicing it would just give him glimpse into what's going on Spirit now. Yeah, from what I understand, it doesn't tell us why, it just says that the angels do. But I think we could conclude the why is because they're going to be in the presence of the Holy One, the King, forever. And that's a great and good thing, and so they logically, properly rejoice in those good things, which is glorifying God.

So praise God, yeah.

Okay, that makes sense. That's why I said what I said about the value of a human soldier. That sounds completely insane to someone who worships creation. This creation is beautiful, but it's perishing. And things that look great now, you look at pictures from decades ago.

in your mind. It was brand new. You see this in movies all the time. Nicest cars at the time, but then you watch that same movie decades later, it's like, oh, wow, that thing doesn't look as impressive as I thought it did.

So I kind of. Yeah, I kind of see the planet that way versus a human soul, which I believe God created to be eternal.

So that that's where my thought process came in.

Well, good for you. And you know, you made me remember something from my very early days of life, you know. I remember seeing a movie where there was this gigantic uh bird creature monster after some people in a plane. And I remember thinking, boy, that is so awesome. Look how great that is.

And then. And then I saw it 30 years later, thinking, wow, that's horrible. But uh you you maybe remember that man It's a good memory for me, believe it or not. But yeah, you're right. A little off topic there, but good stuff.

So good. Yeah, for me, it's Star Wars. The old school lightsaber battles were great when I was a child. And then I got older I looked back and I'm like, oh, this is terrible. Yeah, you know, except I will say this: the movie Aliens when I was younger, I thought it was great.

And when I watch it now, I think it's great.

So there you go.

So All right.

Well, thanks a lot, man. Appreciate it. All right, brother. God bless. Thanks a lot.

Hey folks, we have White Up online. If you want to give me a call, 877-2072276.

Somebody wrote 50 sci-fi loves it. You know, I did too. And.

Sometimes, you know, a few years ago, I would watch these. D- sci-fi movies. My wife would say, What are you watching them for? They're bad. I'd go, I know they're so bad that they're good.

And it was like watching a car accident. I can't take my eyes off of it.

So it was good. Anyway, having said all of that, maybe we can get into some questions. We've got a few of those. Let's see. Let's see.

Radio questions coming in. Um It is a good question. What is this? I have a question. I know that tithing is an Old Testament practice.

Let's assume it's still practiced today. Can someone divide his tithe? For example, I have a churchmate that gives 5% here and abroad and 5% in the Philippines. Despite only 5%, the other 5% is sent to the Philippines. Again, let's just assume that tithing is this practice.

What's your answer? I say tithing is for the work of God. Tithing is to expand the kingdom of God. And if you are giving money or what it is you have, there's not any money. For the expansion of the kingdom of God, then put it where you think it belongs.

That's what I say.

Now generally my rule is uh tithe at your local church. and if you have any extra, tithe to other ministries that may need your help. And it doesn't necessitate that you have to tithe to your local church. When I was going to one a few years ago, it was a big church. I know and I knew for a fact that my money wouldn't make any difference there.

And so what I did was with my wife's uh agreement, Is that we would use our tithe money to help people we knew who were really not doing very well. And we would just help out. And it wasn't for bragging. It wasn't for anything like that. It was just, you know, we'd know that there was a mother with several children, and the father had committed adultery and was out of the picture, and she was left to pick up the pieces.

Well, does she go to a church and then ask for this, ask for that?

So, what we did was: well, let's help this person out. And I have no problem with that. I have no problem that that is a valid way of expressing giving funds to help people. Because that's what the tithing is to do, among other things. Part of another thing is to do is to help the clergy.

do their job of preaching, teaching, prayer, counseling and things like that. And so the local church does need that kind of income in order to enable the pastor and or the elders to be able to do what they can do.

So it's needed. It really is needed.

Now sometimes they don't have enough to enough tithing to get someone uh full time like that. That's just the the reality of it. And they become tent makers. Rudy, for example. in Provo.

I'm thinking of you, Rudy, if you're listening. And that's a great thing. It's a great way to serve and meet the needs.

So, can we, in my opinion, can we tithe, split up our tithes for different needs? I don't see a reason why not, unless doing so would, I must say this carefully. hurt. the work of the church where you're going to.

So what I mean there is If the pastor is working hard and doing stuff to feed the body of Christ. And you're and he and there's not much coming in. every bit that you give would be a real help. And so in that condition, I think that The majority, if not all, of the tithing should go into that local body, that local Uh facility. To support the work of ministry right there.

And if the church is flourishing enough that that's not an issue, then uh you can divide it up. And work at other places where you see the needs. I think that that's a viable thing.

Now, there's something called tithes and offerings. tithes and offerings and tithes offerings are above tithes.

So that was in the Old Testament as well. And there you go. All right, now Grumble. Says Matt does sound kind of like he's using a Batman voice. Yeah.

I've got a bit of a chest cold, just a little one, and so my voice is a little bit different. deeper than normal. I have a deep voice anyway. And so when I get like this, it's really, really deep. And I remember once, just once, once, my voice was so deep from a chest cold that I went to speak and nothing came out, and I had to wait an hour.

Uh before it started uh coming back and man it was so deep in my My wife, she goes, This is awesome. She thought it was great. They make a kick out of it. But anyway, so that's what's going on. Hey, if you want to give me a call, it's easy: 87720-722-76.

All right, now let's get to another one. I have a question. Oh, that's the same question. That's the same one. Let's go into this.

Hi, Matt. Praying you're doing well. I'm listening to this show. I would like to ask, if I may, does God get older? Does he age?

Getting older and aging are different. Um So I'm getting older and I'm aging. And we use those terms interchangeably.

Now, how do we define getting older? If we mean that it just means you have more time associated with your existence, then God is getting older in a sense, only in the sense of Of more time experienced with God if God is subject to time or related to his essence, and that's a whole other topic.

So I'm being kind of generic here.

So in the sense, does God change? And get older? No. Does he age as a change in his condition? No, it doesn't happen.

He is immutable. Malachi 3:6, he does not change. He does not decrease in ability, agility, agility wouldn't even apply to him, ability, cognition, or anything. He doesn't deteriorate in any way, shape, or form.

Now, that would be an interesting question to ask a Mormon because they teach that God is an exalted man from another planet. And he's a body of flesh and bones, and he's about So the prophet said, about six feet tall. Stupid.

Sorry, it is. God from another planet with a goddess wife. Let me think about that. Where did that God come from? And you know what Mormons are doing, isn't it?

Kind of digressing on my own digression, is they're trying to sound more Christian. Like. that they uh but we've always been teaching there's only one God. No, he didn't. And more I have documentation, so much documentation.

On this from Mormon sources, and I'm going to give kudos to where it's due. Bill McKeever is a friend of mine in Sandy, Utah. And he he wrote a book Where it's his quote from Mormon sources. He's been working on it for years. And I have the electronic version because I know him.

I said, Can I have the electronic version? He gives it to me. And I immediately said, when I got it, I go, man, this would all look great on my website. And he goes, Madge. It was At any rate, so I have the ability to search this document, and oh my goodness, it is so helpful.

So many of the LDS people, prophets, apostles, etc., 70s quorum. Their official publications have taught that God's an exalted man for our planet who was not always God, who became a God, etc., etc. Mormonism is changing. What a digression. Anyway, we have three open lines.

If you want to give me a call, 87720. 72276. We'll be right back. It's Matt Slick Live, taking a call at 877-207-2276. Here's Matt Slick.

All right, everyone, welcome back to the show. If you want to give me a call, three open lines 8772-07-2276, let's get to Ryder from South Carolina. Welcome, Ryder. You're on the air.

Hi, how are you? Oh, I'm all right. Got a little bit of a chest cold, but other than that, I'm doing okay.

So what do you got? Um, I want to know your stance on. Once saved always saved. Yeah, once we're saved, go ahead. I'm sorry.

I I grew up in a Independent Baptist Church, and that's what we were always taught. Yeah. But I have relatives that are of different faiths that don't believe that.

Well, yeah, I definitely believe once we're saved, we're truly saved, we'll stay saved. God does not abandon us, He does not make mistakes when He grants us faith. When we believe, he makes us uh born again.

Now, if you can lose your salvation, does he make you unborn again? It says in Colossians 2:14 that Jesus canceled this sin debt at the cross. Is the candle to the cross? Not when you believe. Not when you get baptized, but when Jesus was crucified.

Well what? When you unbelieve, does uh it suddenly become uncancelled to sin dead? It it just doesn't make any sense. And then there's the error of uh trying to keep yourself right. before God in part by how good you are.

And so, you know, I definitely affirm eternal security, that we're secure in Christ. Absolutely, I defend it.

Okay? Right. And and that's kind of my stance. Um, the Bible says that your name is written in blood in the book of life. They're not going to erase that blood out of the book of life just 'cause you do something wrong.

That's the whole part of the getting the forgiveness of sin. And um People don't understand that. I don't know why. If you have a child, if that child does wrong, they're still your child. Yeah.

That's true. That's true. And just for clarification, I don't know. If it says that her names are written in blood in the Book of Life, I can check.

Okay. But.

Okay. Maybe. Let's see. Because it says uh written the book Ban Lamb's Book of Life. Uh I don't know if it says that, but it's a nice thought.

So, nevertheless, no, I believe that God doesn't make mistakes. He grants us faith, Philippians 1:29. He grants us repentance, 2 Timothy 2:25, He justifies us by faith, Romans 5:1. and that He will never leave us, He will never forsake us. Uh Hebrews uh thirteen, I think it's eight or it teaches this.

He's not going to leave us. Jesus gives eternal life to us. Not mostly eternal life if you are good enough and stay good.

Okay. All right. And Amy and Sebast. Amen.

Well, good for you. Yeah. Have you been listening to the show very long? Just curious about it. Tonight is my first time listening.

And I've enjoyed it so far.

So I will listen again.

Well, good. You know, keep listening. I've been doing this for over twenty two years, and it doesn't mean I'm right about everything, but I love answering questions and teaching biblical theology as I see it, according to God's Word.

So I hope you continue to enjoy it.

Alright. Yes, sir, I will. Thank you. Thank you again. And I hope you get the cylinder.

Me too. A little sleepy. It's wiping me out a little bit, but that's okay. Push through the show and. Take a take a nap, you know.

That's what happens. Yeah. It's it's all right, but yeah.

Okay. All right, well that's talking to you, Ryder.

Okay. You too. Bye-bye. Yeah. All right, if you want to give me a call, the number is 877-207-2276.

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Thank you, Eama. How are you? Doing all right by God's grace. Hanging in there. Hanging in there.

Good. I have.

Okay, I have a question. Um. My aunt My uncle just passed away, um, Monday morning. And they're my aunt and uncle, they're very You know, Christian Uh people And they go to a church called the Church of the Brethren. Are you familiar with that?

No, I'm not, but what I'm doing right now is: like a denomination or something? Yeah, what I'm doing as we're talking, I'm looking up the site. And right now... I'm looking at their beliefs. The first thing I do is go to a site or denomination.

I look at their beliefs, I look at their staff. And um So one of the things that she um And I looked a little bit online. I really couldn't find much, but I was hoping you knew more. Um She told me uh not long ago that Our belief in what happens when we die are a little bit different. And I'm I'm a Christian, born-again Christian.

And I I We didn't get to elaborate on it, and I'm. Just wondering. What that difference might be Huh. Um Let's see. Um Okay.

Try to help each other out. They, you know, live a simple life. Like, I wonder if it's kind of like a. Mennonite or Type of a Yeah, it could be. Yeah, it could be.

I'm looking through their beliefs. They don't believe in. It said they don't believe in uh Soul sleeps, so I thought, Well, that's good. Yeah. Well, anyway, I've got a break coming up.

We got a break, so hold on. Let me look at some stuff during the break, and we'll talk, okay? I can scrape stuff pretty quickly. All right. Hey, folks, we read the fight.

Write back after these messages, please. Stay tuned. It's Matt Slick Live, taking your calls at 877-207-2276. Here's Matt Slick. Alright everyone, welcome back to the show.

Let's get back on with Becky from North Carolina. Becky, welcoming back on the air.

Alright, did some research, found some stuff, okay.

Okay. So they're pacifists, all right? And that that's interesting to unfold. They do, however, hold to the Trinity and therefore the deity of Christ. On the bad side, they affirm women, pastors, and elders.

And I always recommend that you ab I always recommend churches abandon, that all Christians abandon any churches that have women, pastors, and elders. didn't hear you all that clearly they do what with Pastors and elders, what? They affirm women pastors and elders. Oh, women, women, women.

Okay, yes, okay. And just to reiterate, I've heard you say that before. Yes. I always recommend people abandon any churches with women, pastors, and elders, or any denominations that affirm it, because it's just clearly not taught in scripture. And once again, I'll offer this after more than 20 years of doing this.

I will flounce. I'll debate anybody. I'll flatten somebody. I'll fly out to somebody's church and I'll debate the issue: does the Bible support women, pastors, and elders? I'll fly out at my own expense.

Yeah, and they've never, you know, you know. All right, so some of them taught what's called a restorative punishment issue. That's a heresy.

Now, they don't necessarily teach that today, but it looks like they're restorative, which means that people get punished. for a while then they're restored to fellowship with God. And in the afterlife, there's something of that. If your friends said that not a purgatory, but a punishment in hell, purgatory is for the saved in the false church of Catholicism, because purgatory is not biblical. But some of their original.

Founders have taught the idea that you punish for a while, then you're restored to God.

Well, that would be a heresy because that would mean then that you earn. Your salvation by the compliance with the punishment according to the law. That's bad. And some of them have leaned towards universalism, which makes sense with the restorative thing, and though not all of the adherents today hold of those things.

So there's warning flags right from the beginning, potential of universalism, restorative punishment, women, pastors and elders. And so because of that, I could never recommend this church. I would recommend people leave it. Right. Okay.

Yeah, I saw something on there and I've heard the term, I'm just don't know exactly what it means that they're Anabaptist. Yeah, uh and a yeah.

Well, I just turned the phone down. Anabaptists. Yeah, and and it has to do with the issue in the Uh In the past Of denying certain aspects of baptismal requirements and various things like this. And so they may or may not practice this kind of baptism, but it's supposed to be in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit from what I've seen and what it is they've said. All right.

Yeah. Okay, um All right.

Well, that gives me a little bit of information. I was thinking of reaching out to her and asking her, you know, what exactly did you mean that time you said that? But it's just, I don't know if I should. It's a very sensitive time. you know, dealing with loss right now.

Did she what what what loss was that again? Her husband, my uncle.

Okay. How long ago? Yeah. He just died. He passed away just the other day, Monday morning.

Oh, yeah.

Now's not the time. And he was only 67, so it was like, you know, very sudden. Yeah, now's not the time. Give it time. Yeah.

Yeah, it's just too much. That's what I'm doing. I just lost my wife a couple of months ago, two and a half months ago, and it just takes a while to get through stuff enough. to build a focus on other things and just give her that time. Yeah.

Mm.

Well, I'm sorry to hear that about your wife. Yeah, it's yeah. She's better off than I am.

Sorry. Yeah, exactly, right? Yes, exactly. All right, well, thank you for your time. I appreciate it.

And God bless you. You have a good night.

Alright, thanks. Thank you. Bye-bye. All right, we have nobody waiting right now. If you want to give me a call, the number is 877-2072276.

Let me just reiterate, ladies and gentlemen, that you should not attend a church. As women, pastors, and elders, you should leave. Yeah. You may disagree with me. You may say match at your opinion.

And I'll offer this challenge again. I'll fly anywhere in the United States at my expense. to um Debate the issue. Does the Bible teach or support women, pastors, and elders. And I've been doing this, offered this challenge for well over 20 years now on the radio.

Not a single person that I'm aware of. But a single person has accepted. Maybe someone's emailed me. And I haven't seen emails because I get thousands, but you think that they'd be persistent because I haven't seen anything in years and years like this of studying this.

So, why is it that people will not take this challenge up? Because they know I'm going to go straight to scripture, they know I'm going to quote the verses, they know I know the topic, and I'm going to call them to repentance, and they don't want that. And why is that? Oh, because they're in sin and rebellion against the Word of God. The Bible does not support women, pastors, and elders.

I don't care what you think. I don't care if you think, well, it's misogynistic or it's anachronistic or whatever. I don't give a flying rip. The Bible says, Paul says, I do not allow a woman to teach or exercise authority over a man, but remain silent. For Adam was first created.

He tied it into the created order. This is coming from Paul the Apostle. It always gets me when I I've talked to so many people.

Well, they could be pastors and elders. Why? How can they be?

Well, because that was just written back then, and they just trample the word of God. I'm going to say it again, you need to leave every church. Everybody going to a church with women, pastors, women, elders, leave. Just leave. Just stop going.

Go find a church that holds to the Bible. And the Bible says the elders to be Anermias Gunaikas in the Greek, a man of one woman. Married to one wife.

Okay, how do you how does a woman fit that? That's what the Bible says. This is so simple. This is so easy. Yes, I know about Phoebe.

Yes, I know about Deborah. Yeah, I know about these things. I know that people are out there saying this, and I'm just going to say it again. Don't do it. I remember once in Escondido, California, San Diego County.

And I was at a coffee place or whatever it was, and there was a woman. collar on. and reading the Bible. And I could tell, you know. She had a Bible open and some notes, and she's writing something.

And so I could tell she's a woman, pastor, priest, whatever it was. And I Very politely said, Oh, yo, you read the Bible. She goes, Oh, yes, the Bible's great. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Yeah.

Oh man. I said, wow, okay. You're a pastor? And she looked at me and She goes, yes. And I said.

Can I ask you what you do with the passages that Say the the elder the pastor's and elders supposed to be a husband of one wife. She says, I'm not talking to you about this. Just go away, I'm not talking to you. Just that fast. You know, and I remember uh And I just go, okay, fine.

I'm out. I'm gone. But what I could have said was: doesn't the Bible tell you to give an answer to everyone who would ask you, 1 Peter 3:15? And I've done this with people. Let me tell you another story.

I was asked to be a pastor to an ABC church, American-born Chinese. And they were great people, great. They loved the Lord. They were good folks. and uh was in the EL uh the Presbyterian PCUSA, Presbyterian Church United States of America, which is very, very liberal.

But this congregation was conservative and they're great folks, and they wanted uh someone who would preach the truth. And so then they eventually asked if I would apply to be their pastor. And I said, okay. Let me look at it. We all knew it was not going to work, but they wanted to try because miracles are going to happen.

So we had this big meeting in the PCUSA. The Presbytery came together and I had a degree and been ordained. And, you know, anyway, so I still remember this room. And um We had this meeting, and they were asking me questions. The Presbyterian board asked me questions.

And, you know, I know my theology, I know stuff, and not a problem. And then they said, women, pastors, and elders. And I said, well, the Bible says. I quoted a verse or two that they're not to be in authority over men in the church. And they just said, okay, we're done.

And they said, we're done, we're just gonna, the meeting's over, you're not gonna be approved. And I said, well, wait a minute, over this? I knew what was going to happen. I said, Over this, you're going to deny me a pastorate? And they said, that's right.

And I said, well, can you give me the defense for your position from God's Word? and they wouldn't do it. Like five or six of them, a couple women, a couple, and the rest were guys, and they started walking out of the room. and I said You are obligated by God's word to give me an answer. For the reason of the faith that lies within you, you're denying me a pastorate, I'm quoting scripture, and you're denying me that right.

What is your reason? This one man This one man turned around and said, You know, you're right. We have to give you an answer. I said, what is your answer? And he says there's neither male nor female in Christ.

And I said, oh, Galatians 3.27. I think it was Repton, and I said, that's about salvation, not about pastoring. I said, Do you have another verse? And he says, Okay, we're we're done and he walked out. You see The Word of God cuts.

And it divides. And people are going to pick sides. and they picked the side of heresy.

Okay, we'll be back after the break. We'll get to Oscar, then Terry. May the Lord bless you right back after these messages. Please stay tuned. It's Matt Slick live, taking a call at 877-207-2276.

Here's Matt Slick. All right, everybody, welcome back to the last segment of the show. Got a correction on a verse citation. It's not Romans 3, 24, 27. I mean, not Galatians, it's Galatians 3, 28.

There's neither male nor female in Christ. And that's what that pastor quoted. I misused that text, did not understand what it said. Man, so much heresy, so little time. Let's get to Oscar from New York.

Oscar, welcome. You're on the air.

Yes, sir. I don't fully understand confession. When a person confesses, is it for sins or is it for salvation?

Well, it depends.

So uh Mm-hmm. We're told in the Bible to confess our sins, to repent of our sins, and have faith in Christ. Romans 10:9: If you confess with your mouth, Jesus says, Lord, well, we are to confess that He is the Lord King.

So, what we do is we confess, as Christians, we confess our sins for the further establishment of fellowship with the Lord Jesus. He has already cleansed us and will continue to cleanse us, and our confession is for that.

Now, confession is also part of. Becoming saved.

Now, when I say that, what I mean is confession of sin is not what saves you, but confession of sin is part of Of admitting our fault, admitting we have sinned, admitting that we need to be forgiven, and trusting in Christ.

So, in that sense, yes, it's for salvation as well, but not to obtain it. It's part of the process of repentance and being made aware and things like that in order to be saved.

Okay? Oh, okay. It makes sense for me, yeah.

Okay, thank you very much. Thank you. You're welcome. Bye-bye. God bless.

Alright. Now, let's get to Terry from Ohio. Terry, welcome. You're on the air.

Hello, thanks for taking my call. Sure, no problem. What do you got? I know this is probably just a trivial question here, but I've always been a little frustrated when it comes to Romans eight, twenty eight. It says, we know all things work together for good to them that love God and to them who are the called according to his purpose.

Well, some versions have Um you know, to them who are called And if you look at the word cold, if you have duck cold, cold is a noun. If you have R cold, then cold is A uh Verb.

So I'm wondering you know, in the in the actual um Greek understanding of this, is it proper to say it one way or the other, the cold or are cold? In the Greek it's an adjective. And so the adjective is is a descriptor. And so we are called. It is describing a condition of the saved.

They are we could say they are the called ones. They were the ones called. And which is why, if I ever started a church, which will never happen, but I'd like to call it the call. Just for that reason. the Called Ones.

We have been designated for salvation by God. He's appointed that, Ephesians 1:4. And Acts 13:48.

Now, some translations say the called. And some just say who are called. Right. You've got King James, New King James, or are the ones that. Use that.

Many of the others have archold, so I was just wondering about that. Yeah, and you know, different translations will uh You know, it says like the RSV is just called, LEB is called, NIV is called, because the Greek word, the, the definite article, is not there. In the Greek. What it does say is to those who are. called.

And so you can say they are the called, and it works. It's not a real altering.

So it's just saying that they are the called. They are the called ones.

Alright, so that's what That is, and uh Yeah. I don't know if that makes sense. Yeah, it does. I was just concerned because I know one pastor that is. Very far with the King James Version, but when he quotes it, he leaves out the word the.

I'm thinking, okay. Where does this all fit in here? You know, I I I probably use it with the cold. I was just wondering if it was proper either way. Yeah, I've referenced it both ways because I understand what's going on.

And it's the function here in the date of case is. It's about the issue of the it's called the indirect object. And so there's a direct object. I hit the ball. That's the ball in this sense is the accusative.

And to you, now to you, you becomes a dative in the sense that it's the indirect object of what's going on.

Well, this is a dative in the Greek, which means it's an indirect object.

So We know that God causes all things. To work forget it for good to those who are of God.

Okay. To those who are called. And so it's saying that the issue of called is the. the indirect object of what's going on. Love God to those who are the call.

I believe those is accusative. Let me check. And I'm wrong again, it's a data that makes sense.

Okay, so that's all that's going on. It's just taught, it's a collective there of the recipients of the calling of God, of those things that work together for those who are in that condition of being called. Which sometimes sometimes is very difficult as you're a Christian if you you've been around for a while. You know, fuck me. That's my gut.

Whew, that was tough. You know, a lot of that.

Okay, well Heist, thanks so much. I really appreciate it.

Okay, no problem. All right. Take care. God bless. Okay, God bless.

We are out of callers. If you want to call me, 877-207-2276. You can. Do that if you want. And uh So let's see.

Okay, I'm going to try this. What I'm doing is writing down some of the questions because I'm going to write articles on them. All right, and let's get to some more of the answers, or some of the questions and stuff that were. and or proposed and emails. if someone has incurred both debt at fault and just allotment.

if someone has incurred both or debt, both at fault and just life.

Okay. Is it unbiblical to stop tithing and pay all extra money to get out of debt as quickly as possible so you don't need to keep dealing with it? Yeah, you can do what you want. We're not obligated to tithe. It's not a legalistic requirement.

is that uh So, you don't have to tithe to the church in order to pay off your debts. There's no legalistic requirement. Having said that, What we need to understand is Uh where is that verse? I wanna Find a verse. Let me see if I can find it.

It's a really neat verse. I was reading through the Bible. And uh let's see, I think it's uh Let's see if we can find this. Yes, here it is. First Chronicles twenty nine fourteen.

He says, but who am I, and who are my people, that we should be able to offer as generously as this? Talk about David building the temple and stuff. For all things come from you and from your hand. We have given you. It's like saying, from your hand, Lord, we give back to you.

I think that's really important. That's 1 Chronicles 29, 14.

So is a person free not to tithe in order to pay off debt? Yes. Is a person free to tithe and pay off their debt? Yes. I think that depending on an individual's circumstances, where they're so broke they can't tithe.

That they need to pay off something in order to not go bankrupt. I think then pay it off. Just do that. That's fine. If I were a pastor and someone came to me and said, Look, I can tithe, but I won't be able to get out of debt for 10 years versus two years, whatever it is.

I'm saying, get out of debt as fast as you can, you know. to be enslaved to no one. Said the Lord will provide, but we're we have to understand this is not a legalistic thing, either way. You are free. Two.

Tithe and not tithe. We're not under obligation of the law. But just remember this. It's from God's hand that we give back to Him. And just remember that.

and then weigh that and understand that God will not condemn you. either way, because we've passed out of condemnation. We passed out of the Condemnation. Let's get to. Eddie from South Carolina.

Eddie, welcome. You're on the air.

Yes, sir. Hey, man. I just had a question. I wo I was wondering, do animals have souls?

Okay. not the way humans have souls.

Okay. Now when we define the word soul Then it becomes important because if we say soul, as a human, we're made in the image of God, but animals are not, in that sense, they have no souls. Do they have a life force?

Well, yes, they do. but they're not made in the image of God. All right. Okay. Okay.

So thank you so much.

Now that clarified a whole lot better.

Okay, and when they die, this is what I believe: when they die, they cease to exist. When we die, we continue to exist apart from the body. But the animals, I see, no. Reason to say that any particular animal continues to just live and have the continuity of essence. I don't believe that's the case.

Now, I could be wrong. I just don't see it in scripture, all right? No. Yes. Yes, sir.

Now when I was younger I had his cat named Punch Face. For real, punch face. because he's one of those flat-faced cats, you know. And uh With a uh got it the mother got out and met a traveling salesman cat, produced these offspring, half punch face. And I call this it's a punch face cat, because it likes a punch cat flat.

And so I had this cat that was just awesome. He played tag, he played fetch. He talked to me. And I still miss them. I'd like to see him again.

Well, oh so Yeah, is it going to happen? I don't know. And if it doesn't I know God has something far better than that, and in heaven. I'm not worried about it either way.

Okay. Yep. Yes, sir. Thank you. Thank you so much.

All right. Well, God bless. All right. Well good. There we go.

So, even though in the Hebrew nefesh is used of animals, living creatures, and people. It does not mean that they have the same kind of nefesh. life force that we do. Humans are immortal. But the animals or not.

That's what I've seen in Scripture. And uh They don't have the spirit.

Now, here's where we get into the word terminology: the word spirit or the spirit of God, the spirit. That we have. We can get into the issue of the spirit-related, and it's only with humans in that sense.

So. The scripture reserves the what's called the imagio de the image of God. Out of Genesis 1:26, for people, for human beings, not angels. not animals. not plants.

And we are alone who have that spirit made in the image of God, but as far as the The soul in the sense of nephesh, simply being a life force, then both have that, animals and people. But they do not have that thing we know as that spirit from God that's in God's image. All right, having said that, we're about out of time. Got about 30 seconds. Just want to let you know that we'll be back on the Air Lord willing on Friday the 13th tomorrow.

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