Matt Slick Live

The following program is recorded content created by the Truth Network. It's Matt Slick Live. Matt is the founder and president of the Christian Apologetics Research Ministry, found online at Carm.org. When you have questions about Bible doctrines, turn to Matt Slick Live for answers, taking your calls and responding to your questions at 877-207-2276. Here's Matt Slick.

Everybody, welcome to the show. It's me, Matt Slick, and you're listening to Matt Slick Live. If you want to give me a call, as usual, it's easy. All you have to do is dial 877207-2276. You can also email me.

And that's easy. Just send an email to info at carm.org. Info at carm.org and put in the subject line, radio comment, radio question, one of those, and we can get to them. And just to give you a heads up, I'll not be live tomorrow or Friday. because I'll be in Dallas.

Uh, at a debate, there's gonna be a bunch of people uh debating. I'll be debating. Um, Anthony Rogers, uh, James White, uh, Eli Ayala is gonna be there. I don't know who else is gonna be there. And uh, if you go to carm.org forward slash calendar.

And I'm doing it right now. There's a link, the Gospel Truth Conference. And it's got Anthony Rogers. Avery Austin Uh I don't know who Avery Austin is. Uh oh my goodness.

Ooh. Hey, Jeremy, good to meet Jeremy. That's good. Jeremy Nortier will be debating Dr. Layton Flowers.

Oh, man, I want to PCA him. Let's see, James White's going to be there. And uh Eli Adyala. will be there and I'll be there.

So there's supposed to be six of us doing debates. And their schedule, you know, I forget what day. I think I'm on Saturday. Let's see what it says. I'm just curious.

We have nobody waiting. Um I'll be uh doing what's Jesus more than a prophet. Let's see. February 7th. Yeah, I don't know.

I'm on one of those days.

So it'll be interesting because check this out: Dr. James White versus Dr. Dustin Smith concerning does the Bible teach the Trinity? Oh, man, I would love to be on that one. Lastly, it says Here's how it goes.

Let's see. Three headliner debates, Avery Austin, Uh second debate will be February 7th. James White. And SolarScope Tour, Dr. Leighton Flowers.

Okay, okay. But my name's not listed in that thing. I don't know if what's his name. I forgot to put it in, but anyway, no big deal. And so it's uh a Agenda Day One.

Uh let's see. Uh-huh. And I'll be debating on the second day. Yep. At 10.20 AM.

which uh should be Saturday. And then gonna have so opening prayer at 10 o'clock, 10.20, high debates, then lunch at 12.45, then Leighton Flowers versus Jeremy Nautier, intermission, then Anthony Rogers versus Trent Horn, solicitor. Oh, that's gonna be good stuff. It's going to be good stuff.

So I'll be able to do the debate and also watch debates. It's going to be really nice. Um Let's see. Let's see. Let's see.

I think that's about it.

Now, if you want to give me a call, like I said, 877-2072276. And as usual, I go into chat rooms in the evening. I mean, I do it this evening. I'm prepping for the debate more and got to get ready and pack and do all that kind of stuff for tomorrow's flight. But we'll see.

Maybe I'll. I like getting on there and doing stuff and just kind of chatting about theology. I don't know. It just enjoy it.

So There you go. All right. All right, now why don't we do this? Let's get to Judy from Ohio. Judy, welcome.

You're on the air. Hi, Matt. How are you? I'm all right. My god's grace.

So what do you got? Yeah. I was wondering, me and my sister, we both wanted to know, what Bible do you use? When you study? I use the uh n NASB 95.

That's what I I use. But uh there's other Bibles uh too. Um So the NSB 95, of course, was translated in 2000, I mean 1995. And it's just been the one I've always used since then because it's a good literal translation.

So uh but there are other Bibles that are quite good. And I can tell you some of those things. Yeah, which would be what? Bible, you know, 'cause there's so many out there. Yes.

Now it depends what you want.

So let's talk about it a little bit.

Okay, so. I use this as an example. In Spanish, to say, I'm hungry, se yo tengo hambre, but the literal translation is, I, I have hunger.

So it's a literal wooden translation.

So a very little translation would be: I have hunger. A softer translation would be I have hunger. Uh even better software would be I'm hungry.

So, which do you want? You want that real literalness, or do you want the. the general meaning just carried over. And so the NASB is kind of like the second part. It's.

It's literal as can be, but while being smooth. Then you have the ESV, which is a little bit more smoother than the NESV. And then you had that. the E S V, the English Standard Version. And it's a little bit smoother than the NASB is.

So when you read them, you'll see slightly different phraseology of things. Greek is like that, okay? Greek, you can do things. You can say agathas anthropos, the good man. but because of the nature of Greek, all of those three words, ha, the, agathos, good, and anthropos, good, are in what's called the masculine singular form.

Well, if you were to take ha'agathos and then anthropos, which is man, you take the word man away, you have the good, but it's in the form of masculine singular.

So then a translation might put in the word man, singular. In italics, signifying it's not actually there in the Greek, but that's definitely what's implied because of the nature of the Greek language.

So some translations will let it stay in italics, where others might exclude it altogether. which wouldn't really make sense. The good The good what? The good man. In the context.

And so a looser translation would add the word man in it, which is appropriate.

So I'm just saying, there's just different ways of looking at it.

So it depends what you want. You want hardcore study. Or do you want to do a smoother study?

So I recommend this. Get three Bibles. Get the NESB 95 or the NESB 2020 literal. You said NE. NASB, New American Standard Bible.

And S B. And I use the 1995. I like it, but it's um it uses the word Lord, Yahweh, and keeps it as Lord. I wish they would put Yahweh in there or the tetragrammaton. I don't know if the 2020 version does that.

Uh I don't believe so. But the what is it what uh Laura, type it in. What's the version that the modern, it's off of the NASB, but it uses the, it puts the word Jehovah or Yahweh in there. I think the L E B, is that what it was? I'm trying to remember.

And she'll put it in, and I'll tell you.

So there's that. And then I'd get the ESV also, and I'd get an NIV. And I just go between those three and look and compare.

Okay, that's what I'm doing. And uh that's the L S B. The Legacy Standard Bible. Which is really good. Legacy legacy standard?

Uh-huh. The Legacy Standard Bible. Standard Bible.

Okay.

So I'm going to look at it right now.

Now, just so that you know, there's a particular verse I judged Bibles by. It's a single verse I go to. And let's see if I can find this. Romans 518 in the legacy standard. It says, So then, as through one transgression there resulted condemnation to all men, even so through an act of righteousness.

Yeah, so it's a good translation. And so it's, and I could get into why. It's a really important verse in the Bible. And because of what it actually says, some translations. fail to let the Greeks speak and then they alter it slightly.

And so And so and I get why they do it, they just make a mistake when they do it. And um So, Romans 5:18, and yeah, there's that error. It doesn't legacy standard right there. It's good. Text comparison.

So the ESV says one trespass led to condemnation to all men. It didn't lead to it, it resulted in it. It's a weakened translation. I can get into the Greek. I mean, there's nobody waiting.

I can do this and explain it. But here's another thing. Is an example, okay? This is true about this verse. I'll just use this as a launching pad.

Most people don't need to do what I do, which is really get into things so you can answer detailed questions. If you don't need to do that, get something basic. And you'll be fine.

So what would you recommend then?

Well, it depends. What do you want?

Well, I want to understand everything, but I need it. I'm not nowhere near as advanced as you are.

So Um I think I want to keep it It's simple but true. I don't want anything that's going to be misleading.

Well just try the Legacy Standard Bible. And get that. I always recommend people get three Bibles.

So if you're really curious, you can compare them.

Well, I have an ID already. Good. LSB Like L S B and an NIV are good. And so, yeah, and each one has advantages and disadvantages, and no translation is perfect. because of the nature of translation.

So that's why a couple different ones are good. And you just kind of compare, and if you get curious, wait, why is that a little bit different that way? And you research, you learn.

Okay.

Yeah, yeah. Uh, do you have anybody else waiting? Can I ask you one more quick question? Yes, somebody can go ahead. What what's your question?

I was just wondering, what do you know about the Ethiopian Bible? Ooh, it's got extra books in it that are not canonized. The Ethiopian Bible. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. And has has extra, I think it's over a hundred over a hundred total books or something like that. Have you ever read it? Oh, no. I just know that it has extra ones in there.

It has. Oh, it has 81 books.

Sorry about that. Yeah, it's it's significantly larger than the Protestant 66 and the Catholic 73.

So they have Enoch, Jubilees, one in second, Maccabees, Esdras, and some other stuff. And yeah, it's I I wouldn't trust those extra books. They're not inspired. Jesus didn't authorize them and the Apostles did not either.

Okay, okay, that makes sense.

Okay.

All right. Well, thank you very much. I appreciate you taking my call.

Okay, good. All right, we'll go back to the next one. Yeah, thank you. You too. Have a good night.

You too. God bless. All right. Well, if you want to give me a call, the number is 877-207-2276. Let's get to Kevin from Arizona.

Kevin, welcome. You're on the air. Hey, how you doing, Matt? Doing all right, man. Hanging in there.

What do you got? Yeah, um I just got a question. Um I wanted to know uh um What does push the inverse and loser? Christian nationalism basically is the view from people who say that the belief they have this belief that the U.S. has a special relationship with the U.S.

With God, because it was based on Christian principles, and that God is favoring the United States. And it also basically has the idea that. It's a we're a Christian nation.

Okay.

Yeah, I'll try it. Yeah. Yeah there there are some people, they they they view Christian nationalism as being evil. Yeah. As being easy, you said?

as being evil. Oh, some well, maybe people can say that, but what is what is it that Christian nationalism wants? There's some good stuff in it and there's some bad stuff in it.

So they want um They want a fusion between Christian belief and l uh legality in the government. And I degr I agree there should be some fusion. The question is to what degree. And that's the question.

Now they're going to break coming up, so hold on. And we'll get back to some more of this right after the break.

Okay, hold on, buddy. Hey, folks, we'll be right back after these messages. Why don't? You give me a call, 877. 207-2276.

Right now, It's Matt Slick Live, taking a call at 877-207-2276. Here's Matt Slick. Hey everybody, welcome back to the show. If you want to give me a call, all I got to do is dial 87720722. 7-6.

Why don't you give me a call? You got three open lines. All right, let me get back on the air here with Kevin from Arizona. Kevin, are you still there? Yeah, I'm staying here.

All right, ma'am. All right, so just to continue a little bit.

So, Christian nationalism can be good or bad depending to what extent. it it it worked. Is very problematic, and some confuse Christian identity with Christian nationalism.

So think of Christian nationalism in the sense of generically as. The United States is a Christian nation. We should have Christian principles in place. It's we're not to force anybody. but they're to oppose abortion, LGBTQ, socialism, you know, the woke movement, things like that.

Christian identity, from what I understand, I remember, it tends to say the white race is superior. and advocates for social segregation. But Christian nationalism does not.

So That's why Christian nationalism, okay. I mean it's doable. The problem is always Where do you draw the line when you are instituting secular laws combined with sacred laws? And we should have them. It should be wrong.

To um it to kill the unborn, for example. You know, and stuff like this.

So, what do we do? And how far does it go? When do we say yes or no, etc.?

Okay? Yeah. Okay.

Yeah. No, I um They they saying that is is evil. due to what Trump is doing within this country and stuff like that. You you have a lot of folks they they don't like they they don't like um Donald Trump is mostly used Democrats. We had Democrats, they got problems.

Okay.

A Democratic Party uh I wrote an article on my website, which political party would the Antichrist join? Democrat or Republican, without hesitation, it's the Democratic party. The Democratic Party is an evil party. It is, flat out. It promotes LGBTQ abortion socialism.

C R T Woke idiocy. But yeah, I it was one pat it was one African-American preacher who I who I used to uh have a conversation with. And I had to stop talking to him because he wanted to go if he goes to his Facebook page. And he's constantly talking about Trump as a racist And Trump is looking to be a dictator of this country. And then he came out talking about that Charlie Cuz was a racist.

And I asked the guy, I said, Can you provide me documentation on where you held that at? I said because I haven't seen anything about Charlie Flood being racist toward any black people. That's right. And he told me to research and Google it for myself.

So I did that and I haven't I still haven't found anything where Charlie Kirk was raised to a black teeth. Yeah, if a pastor is saying this kind of stuff, he needs to be rebuked. Just because he's a pastor doesn't mean he's right. Charlie Kirk was not perfect, but he wasn't a racist. You know, I've s I watched a lot of what he said.

There's never anything like that. Never.

So, just to say it is to bear false witness.

Now, is the pastor bearing false witness against someone? And then to say Trump, and I've heard this, you know, Trump wants to be a dictator. Really? A dictator operates without any constitutional constraints. He cannot be removed through legal means.

And it's just not true. These people are just throwing dispersions. And if he's a pastor saying this about Trump, well, what about Romans 13? To submit to the people over you. This was difficult for me with Obama.

I thought Obama was horrible, and Biden was even worse. Yeah, again yeah and then This this same pastor that's saying that Trump is a racist. He comes on his platform when Rob Biden was in office talking about how good of a man he was and how good of a president he was. I said, I don't think so. I'm with you.

I don't think so. Yeah, yeah. We had the two worst presidents in a row, basically. Not in a row, but you know, Obama and Biden. But yeah, they were horrible.

And It there is a plan to destroy this country.

Now what I'd recommend is go to my website. and look up the forty-five goals of communism. This should be talked about. Because in 1963 it was read into the Congressional Court, or it's the Congressional Record, I think it was. And um The 45 goals.

Are what the Communist Party wants to do in America, and it is succeeding. It is succeeding. control of the media, control of the news outlets, the promotion of of homosexuality, the promotion promotion of promiscuity, the destruction of the family. the rise of socialism, the destruction of history. in making our historical figures to be evil and bad.

Things like this. This is what you do to to destroy a country. And um Let's just say that a lot of the political figures are doing the same thing. And I could tell you that there's so many warnings. Uh, there's a lot of stuff.

Bohemian Grove, there's the Masonic infiltrations, there's all kinds of stuff. Oh, there's stuff going on.

Okay.

But at any rate, we've got to pray for uh the leaders, okay? Yeah, Amen. According to Gaza, yeah, we have to. That's right. That's right.

Yep, and our country is being sold down the river. Trump is fighting it. I'm not saying it's perfect.

Okay, but Uh he's fighting it. And Uh I'm happy uh by a lot of what he does. I have no problem with those boats coming in with drugs over the ocean, taking them out. I have no problem with that. I have no problem with going to get uh Chavez out of Venezuela.

I know it Venice wasn't. Yeah, go get 'em. Yeah, I have no problem with getting to cartel people and wiping them out.

Okay, they're evil people. and uh the power of the government is to protect the citizenry. But and then I have no problem with ICE doing what it's doing. That's right. And you know, when I was in Southern California, I had Mexican friends.

They spoke Spanish. I would speak joke practice with them. I didn't care. As long as they came in legally like anybody else, that's fine. No problem.

But, you know, open the borders up. I mean, I live down in there, San Diego, and my car was broken into. Um my wife's car was stolen. I'd go places, you weren't even speaking English. And I worked at a hospital and I had to speak Spanish registering patients.

They've been in the country years and years and years. And we're on, well, let's put it this way, didn't even know the language. I remember once a woman came in, she's in Perezada. Impregnant. And three kids next to her.

four different fathers. including the one she's pregnant with. And when isn't even married? This kind of stuff. And they just go over illegally and they want us to take care of stuff.

I remember that. I also remember. A good hardworking Mexican guy came in. Didn't speak a liquor English. And he you could tell, I could tell you the story.

He was a hardworking, honest man. And praise God. But they need to come over legally. ICE is just enforcing the law. What's wrong with that?

We have these leftists that don't want that. Yeah. There's nothing wrong with Mexicans or any other folk coming to our country, but you have to do that the right way. You got to do that legally. That's right.

Do it the right way. Come on in legally. Just come on in. Like us. If if we want to go to Canada, or Japan or China or Mexico.

then we get to that board and and we don't have the type of paperwork If you're at trade constants, Rejay, they're not gonna let us in, they're gonna tell us volunteers to go back. And what do they do here in America? They let them come in illegally and then give them the right to vote because you know they're going to vote socialist. It's a means of undermining and destroying our country. You gotta go, there's a break, okay?

Okay, buddy, we're done. All right, buddy, God bless. Hey folks, be right back after these messages. Please stay tuned. It's Matt Slick Live, taking your calls at 877-207-2276.

Here's Matt Slick. All right, everyone, welcome back to the show. Let's get back on the air here with Jermaine from California. Jermaine, welcome, brother. You're on here.

Yeah. No, hey man, it's uh Good to be on the show again. Yeah, man, miss you, buddy.

So what do you got, man? Yeah, um so I was out of the country for a little bit. I was uh visiting overseas in the isle of uh Samoa. And uh beautiful country, wonderful people and Yeah, you dare not break their immigration laws, or you'll have 300-pound men in slippers throwing you out of the country. But our what What I they'll do it nicely, very polite, but yeah, the thing is, I noticed a large influx of Muslims.

or excuse me non-Muslims of uh of a Uh Mormons. Yeah. Yeah, and I can tell some people in other Bibles have a little bit of difficulty you know, trying to explain to others that that's not mainstream Christianity and a lot of people They've kind of infiltrated the government, you know, usual pattern that you have, but there are a lot of folks who legit. just see them as a different form of Christianity and they're unaware of that. And Speaking to some missionaries before, it seems like some of the younger ones are unaware of some of the more darker elements of Mormonism as far as the racism and And uh You know what not Maybe you can give a brief breakdown of the difference in the gospel they preach versus the gospel That's in first Corinthians because And I know typically what they'll do is they'll run to the book of I think they call it Nephi or And they'll use that one as a j as a as kind of like a justification, but maybe you can give us a brief breakdown of that.

Well, yeah, you know, first of all, the Mormon theology teaches God's an exalted man put an inner world, and he has a goddess wife and became a god.

Now a lot of Mormons don't believe uh that. Uh they they think that I'm wrong. And I have extensive documentation from multiple Mormon teachers on this throughout the decades. And it is what Mormonism is taught. It just flat out is.

All right, now. Whenever you have a false God, like Mormonism does, then you're also going to have a false gospel. That's just how it is. If God is the one who becomes us, and does everything necessary. There's nothing you can add to what God does.

He's that simple. That's why the true gospel is salvation by grace through faith alone, in Christ alone. But in the Mormon gospel, it's 2 Depot 25, 23, you're saved by grace through faith after all you can do. After all you can do, And then Morania 10.32, you know, if you deny yourself of all ungodliness, then is God's grace sufficient for you. And in DNC, Doctrine and Covenants, DNC 82:7, it says that if you sin, the past sins you've been forgiven of, then all of your past sins come back upon you.

So it's a false gospel. It's we call it the impossible gospel. Because you have to dye yourself of all ungodliness, Romani 10:32, and if you mess up, all your former sins come back on you. This is no hope. But this is the theology of f a false teacher, Joseph Smith.

And so they have a gospel of works. and as all false religions do. Because they have an insufficient god. and therefore they have an insufficient gospel.

Okay.

Okay.

Yeah, I really appreciate that answer. Is very frustrating for a lot of folks there who are some good. I've met a lot of good Christian people and. I'll lead in some other questions I had, but There there were just a lot of folks who could not It's hard to explain to other folks that, hey, this is not what you think it is. And there's a reason they're giving you a Book of Mormon.

Right. You know, versus giving you a Bible.

So One of the things we all do. When I I'm talking to people who I can tell are sensitive and they're they they look at truth by their hearts, their feelings. And I'll, without saying what Mormonism teaches, what I'll do is I'll say, you know, there's this group I know of that teaches God used to be a man. Another world. became a god.

And he he was married and brought one of his wives with him. In a celestial heaven. What do you think of that? And I've had people go. That's ridiculous.

And So yeah, I agree. And I've shown uh You know, other doctrines like, oh, yeah, you have to, they even teach that you have to, in order to meet God, really get close to Him. you have to pay part of your income. And it has to be verified. then you're able to go to a special place.

And you get a ritual that you go through, and that's where you learn to get closer to God. That's ridiculous, because that's the Mormon temples. And so there's ways to say it. Around it without saying it, and then you tell them, Yeah, that's what Mormonism teaches. I've had people go, What?

Are you serious? Oh yeah, yeah.

Now what Mormons are doing is saying, that's not what we teach, it's not official.

Well, then why did your prophets teach it? Why is it we've got documentation of the wazoo of them teaching it over and over and over again? In fact, My friend Bill McKeever and Eric Johnson in uh In the Salt Lake City area of Utah. They're Mormon experts parks a lot. And so Bill and Eric have worked on this book.

uh but mainly from Bill, but uh in their own words. And so Bill He let me have the the um the version that that's uh electronic.

So I have it on my system and I I can update it. I mean, I can just open it up, but I can search. And it's hundreds of pages of quotes from Mormon sources. And Bill's categorized them by categories, like exalted man. Becoming gods, and there's quote after quote after quote after quote after quote.

This is what he's been doing. I was even there once in his house when he found a quote. He goes, Oh, I'm going to put this one in here too. And I was behind him when he was working on his desk. He goes, here's a great quote.

And his wife is calling him to dinner. He's a very good quote. And so um The fact is, this is what the Mormon church has taught. And Mormons are trying to distance themselves from it, trying to sound more Christian, which is deceptive.

Okay.

Yeah. Okay.

Yeah, now I'm Yeah, I'll definitely have to be calling you back on this. I have actually got Mormons who come to my home regularly because some of them are in laws. And so I got to get into a deep dive with this. And we have our little spiritual battles, but. I think people really Really do themselves well to actually study that cultic religion to see why you cannot be a part of it as a Christian.

That's right. Here's what you can do. When they're there, And it's your house. When you pray, pray to Jesus. Specifically to the person of Jesus.

They're not supposed to do that in Mormonism, but in the Book of Mormon, 3 Nephi 19:18. They didn't pray to Jesus, calling him their Lord and their God. And I'll quote it to them, but the idea is to witness to them without them knowing that you've been. You're witnessing, you're praying to Jesus because Jesus is God, He could be prayed to, but in Mormonism. He pray through, not to.

Yeah. So, it's just it's a cult, you know, it's a cult. There you go.

Okay, yeah, definitely. I'll I'll uh take you up on that. Let's see how it goes. Yeah, and you can also Find the book 3913 Changes in the Book of Mormon. and accidentally leave it around the house.

It's just an 1830 edition of the Book of Mormon. With modern, with the 1964 edition, compared. And there's been changes since then. Jolden Sander Tanner did that.

So I know I know Sandra. She's still around. She's the number one person in the world in Mormonism probably. And I've used that book countless times to destroy the testimony of Mormons. when they see how it's been altered.

Oh man, has it been altered A lot. Yeah, a lot.

So, yeah. All right. Appreciate it as usual, Matt. Missed calling in, but I was technically in the future and could not get the times to line up correctly for a proper internet, but it was a blessing. All right, brother.

No problem, man. God bless, buddy. All right. God bless you, man. Bye-bye.

Okay, God bless. All right, now let's see.

Next longest waiting is Jamal from North Carolina. Hey, Jamal, man, how are you doing, buddy? I haven't seen you in a while. Hey, brother Matt, I'm doing fine. I would ask how you're doing, but everybody else asks, so I know.

So I'll say I'm glad you're doing well, sir. By God's grace. Yep. In fact, my daughter. We just got here last night, and we talked about the passing of my wife and her.

her mom. We just talked about it for a while. It was really helpful, really thera therapeutic. And we just went over stuff and doing well by God's grace as much as you can expect.

So I appreciate it. Sure.

Well, um I'm glad you and your daughter had uh some good father-daughter time. Um I'm pretty sure Like myself and other people, we've been praying for you still.

So, hopefully, this is an answer to prayers and praying that God continues to work on on your daughter's heart and You know, maybe God can use this. Uh yeah. Bring them all back to the fold. That's right. Yes, sir.

Yes, sir. The question I had not read the question, I guess it would be a statement. Um And before I continue, I know Uh you don't. Like a lot of talk about that. We can possibly check the considering how.

Yeah. You know, you're my heart, and we've met, so you know, can't do too much. I still like you, even though I met you. Yeah. Well we're we're good.

I'm I'm glad to pay you good races.

So yeah, so the To jump right into it, um You and another guy was talking about ICE and all that. You know me about politics. Oh my God. Hold on, man. We got a break, okay?

Hold on, buddy. All right, we'll get back. Hey folks, we're right back with Jamal, North Carolina. Got to meet him a few months ago. Nice guy.

And loves the Lord, good guy. We'll be right back after these messages. Please stay tuned. It's Matt Slick Live, taking a call at 877-207-2276. Here's Matt Slick.

Alright, everyone, welcome back to the show. Just want to give you a reminder that I won't be on the air live tomorrow. And Friday, I've got to fly out to Texas. It's going to be in a debate series. I'll be one of six guys debating other people and multiple topics.

If you want information on that out of Dallas, all you got to do is go to carm.org forward slash calendar, and all the information you need is right there. All right, let's get back to Jamal. Hey, buddy, you're back on. All right, good deal. Uh let's see, so the the topic of ICE came up.

And You know how I like to tie everything back to the Bible. And back to Jesus. With this thing about ICE, the way I tie it back to Jesus and God and the Bible and then all that. is how In my opinion, It's my upset some people on the left, but This is just Well what I'm what I'm gathering. with little to low Uproar.

tension with what Obama did with deporting illegals, even deported more illegals than Trump did. with Biden opening up the border. with the drone attacks and overseas countries how Obama did that in killed uh quite a few people. you didn't hear a drop. You didn't hear anything out of some people on the left.

Mainly, in my opinion, because Obama is one of their people. He's their guy.

So You know, not he can't do much wrong. Trump does anything. They were at the screen, riot. you know, March Uh all of that. And in my opinion, Yeah, somebody said before, which I the name escapes to me.

They're just finding a reason to have a march finding a reason to have a a riot. or to have some kind of straw man to have some kind of argument. To uh pit people against him. And why is that? mainly because Trump is supporting biblical Christian ideals.

He might not be the main face of Christianity. Not might be. He is not the face of Christianity. But He is somebody that is standing up strongly. in the strongest position in the whole world for Christian values.

So Some people are enraged by that and they want to attack that, in my opinion. In any other scenario, you put any other guy in there who says, I'm going to close the border, I want to have a more safe. country. I want to cut down crime by using the federal the strong arm of the federal forces to do so. More than likely, you have anybody to say, Yeah, I want less crime, I want closed borders, I don't want trafficking many labor trafficking.

Uh well, I meant to say sex trafficking, I can say that and labor trafficking, that's that's not that bad, it gets gets more graphic. But any rational person would be against all of that. But because it's Trump, we're only pointing Christian values. It it's total TDS.

So that's that's that's my opinion. And I wanted to mention that along with other guests. I'm with you, brother. Oma Obama uh exported 5.3 million people in his two terms. Biden 4.6 million in his one term.

And Trump 2 million.

So far.

So the average is Obama was $663,000 a year. Biden was at one point one five million a year, and Trump is five hundred thousand a year. And yeah, you're right, they only complain about Trump because they're leftist wackos. They don't care about facts. They don't care about the facts.

They just hate Trump because of what he stands for. And the hypocrisy is so obvious.

Now, here's a question. Is this going to lead to civil war? This topic is coming on more and more. in different circles.

Okay.

And who's fomenting this? It's not the right, it's the left. I was literally in a discussion room. I can't repeat some of the stuff. But this guy was advocating the demise personally if he could do it of the President.

And it was over ice. Yeah, and when I said He didn't do these things and this guy didn't care. He actually said it to me. I was like, are you kidding me? First time I've ever heard anybody say to me what they wanted to do personally to Drunk.

And it was Yeah, politely say to unalive him. And this guy wanted to do it on his own. Look, are you kidding me? Yeah. And not only that, Matt, you have a guy I think who was elected um District Attorney in Virginia, John Jones, or something like that, who's a politician.

and he said that he wanted to literally kill his opponent and his children. And when he was challenged on that, he did not back down. He doubled down. He's like, Yeah, I said it. I want to do it.

I want to dance on their graves. And they elected that guy, black guy, too. Democrat.

So, again. You let somebody from the right say say something like that. Oh, another right person with those violent guys and their guns and all that, but one of ours. that they get a pass.

So it's hypocrisy. Who's the one that's riding in the streets and trying to say I want to kill people and all this and uh all these no kings but you don't hear hardly no rioting coming from us. They want to mention january sixth, that happened five years ago. When Charlie Kirk passed away, you didn't see nothing burned, no rots, or nothing.

So, who's the guys out there in the streets right now causing all this commotion? It's just the left.

Now, not everybody from the left is like this, but good Lord, they are fomenting a lot of this tension going on in the country. There's a clear difference right now between people who follow the book. Christians, people who want to not follow the book and want to cause all detention. That's right. They're they remind me of cultists.

because I've had so much dealings with the cult mind. It's the same kind of thing. In the cult mind, facts are irrelevant. It doesn't matter what the facts are. What matters is your agenda.

That's what matters. This is a cult, it's called snapping in psychology. Where you have a person who just snaps, it's called snapping, where you just suddenly believe something and everything is filtered through it.

So automatically Trump is evil.

So no matter what he does, it's only possible that he's evil. That's how it works. And so, therefore, it's always interpreted that way. And then, what happens is the anger gets to the point where they want to do. They don't even realize they want to do what they're condemning.

And they can't see it. Exactly. Trump is doing all this bad stuff, but they want to do bad stuff to him. It's insane. And it's okay with that.

It's okay. And believe it or not, I don't know if you know this, but. The left is starting to uh buy AR-15s. There's reports that the left is purposely letting it be known that they're buying weapons. People on the left.

Or saying it. Uh-huh. Well, uh I I'll leave you with this quote, brother. Um Bill Maher. You know, you know who Bill Maher is, right?

Yeah, uhhuh.

Okay.

Bill marked it a while ago. That You can be so woke. that you come out fascist. on the other side. Yep.

And that broken down is If you're so awoke, That you want to far not even just woke. You're so snapped.

so fixated on your position. That you don't see anybody else's position. You're only fighting for your position. And any other position, had to be eliminated. that's almost a definition of fascism.

Us on the right, You look at our Constitution, We believe in freedom of speech. We believe in freedom of religion or non-religion. We believe in the Second Amendment.

So if you really want to believe in freedom and and and having your way of lifestyle, Y y to enjoy your freedoms and all that? it'll behoove you, it'd be better for anybody to believe what the right believes versus the left, because the right gives you more freedom to do what you want versus any other ideology. That's all I got for you, brother. I'm up on time, but always a pleasure. Take care, and God bless.

God bless you, brother. Appreciate it, man. Good stuff. Mm-hmm. Thank you.

All right. Yeah, good stuff, man. That was good. We only got a little bit of time left. I'm going to just jump straight over to Chuck from Ohio.

Chuck, welcome. You're on the air. I'm at the moment. Hey yeah, I'm gonna I got it. A dear daughter that um Bless her heart.

She's almost impossible for me. to talk to or reason with that She she has as her base She kinda has Well, first of all, she hasn't went to church anywhere for probably. ten or fifteen years except maybe an occasional visit, but She's she's watched like um Jackpan Empy Um Uh what's the th this one uh Jewish fellow by the name of uh Khan, is it? He's written a lot of books and he's Uh Basically uh Out there a little bit, I think. I don't know much about him really.

And then how whimsy. And she kind of spins it all. She used to watch Jim Baker when he was on. Uh Few years ago, I don't know if he's still on or not, but Uh she's she's kind of got a mixed up Eschatology and mixed up. View of grace and law, that it's so hard for me to talk to her because she thinks.

that she uh has all these Secrets figured out, or something. I don't even know how to describe it.

Okay, what are you trying to do with her? What's up? What?

Well, I basically, when I can, I try to Just share the gospel with her and grace with her, but she kind of deflects it.

Well, it sounds like a cultist. Maybe she's not saved, maybe she is, I don't know. But your job is to pray as much as you can for her. And just ask the Lord to be merciful. And plus, being the dad, you don't know anything.

Okay.

So, they're not gonna listen to dad, they're gonna listen to somebody else. But ask that God would send somebody that would then hopefully open their minds and their hearts to believe the truth. and uh you can find out what this stuff is. It's hard. People in that mindset, usually to come out of it.

It's like a cult, subcult thing inside of Christianity. It takes usually a trauma. for them to come out of it. Believe it or not, a trauma. Where they believe in the false teaching of, you know, he wants you healthy, wealthy, and all this stuff.

And then when it doesn't happen, they are are dumbfounded. and it's it's traumatizing. And this is what it takes to c for them to come out sometimes. Just telling you. Yeah.

Do you understand anything about this fellow that's Teaching about these techno-beasts and all this. I mean, I'll be talking to her, and maybe we'll have trouble with. The the phone system or uh internet or something, and she'll say something about the Ten Kings or uh you know, uh waging war against the uh I I don't know. I can't understand it. I get so confused trying to figure out what she's even talking about and I can't question her about it because if I do, she has a meltdown.

Well then don't question her about it. Be praying for her and get r information off her. That's what you can do, and sometimes what you'll be surprised, what you'll find is when you research, you'll find some really bizarre stuff, and then what you can do is you can bring it up without her knowing it's what it is. Hey, gotta go, buddy.

Okay, there's the music, all right?

Okay, thanks, thank you, thank you, yeah.

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