Welcome to Man Talk, a ministry sponsored by TAWCMM, Talking and Walking Christian Men's Ministry, where we're devoted to breaking down the walls of race and denomination, and to point men to their God-assigned roles. Now here's your hosts, Will Hardy and Roy Jones Jr. Today we're bringing you a special series from our men's dinner held bi-monthly on Thursdays.
Check out our website for more details, www.tawcmm.com. Today's episode will be with Bishop Larry Jackson. The body has a head. The body has a head. And the oil was poured on the head. The oil wasn't poured on the feet first, it was poured on the head. And it ran down to the feet. And you are part of the body of Christ.
Goodness gracious. And Paul unwraps that in so many places so that we can understand body ministry. I told, I was talking to him about the fact that in Ephesians, Paul is not talking about marriage in chapter 5. Husbands love your wife even as Christ loved the church and gave himself for it.
He ain't talking about vision, he's talking about marriage. He's talking about Christ and the? Ecclesia, the church. He's talking about Christ and the church. He says, I'm talking about Christ and the church. He said, but nevertheless, nevertheless.
Husbands love your wives and wives see that you rep with your husband. He said, see the nevertheless told me he wasn't talking about marriage because nevertheless changed something. He was talking about Christ and the body. We don't understand how the body functions. When you understand how the body functions, now you come into oneness. Every part of your body is working together for the good of the whole. And so God said, I'll pour the oil on the head and the whole body is going to get it.
And that's the unity he uses that this oil is coming all the way down as it even came from Aaron so that you can understand the fullness of the body of Christ. I'm yelling, but I ain't yelling at you, I promise. I'm just passionate about this. Because we're losing, listen to me close, we're losing because the world is in more unity than the church is. It's far more passion. You look at the alternate lifestyle community, they're far more passionate about this than you. When we should have been passionate about it, we would not be seeing men on our commercials kissing one another. We weren't passionate. We act like it couldn't happen here.
And evil just kept getting stronger and stronger, more and more. They use their money for their call. They use their time for their call.
And they're trying to invade a church near you as soon as they can. They are affecting legislation. I don't care your party's affiliation, I care not about it at all. I have no care whatsoever. I don't participate in any. I'm not under the power of any. I'm above it all. I'm definitely not a Republican. I'm definitely not a Democrat.
I'm definitely not an Independent. I'm a kingdom man. I came from heaven. I came to change this mess.
And none of it would have caused me to get caught up in it. But when our president says that he will not give school lunches to kids if they don't let boys go in the girls' bathroom. See? We're holding school lunch from children because you won't let a boy go in the girls' bathroom.
Because they're more unified than we are. See, we were told during the pandemic, we were told that we were non-essential. You can't go to church. You're non-essential. Nobody needs you. That's what non-essential means.
You know that, right? Guess what was essential? The ABC store.
The ABC store was essential. Know what they said? They said, if people cannot get to the alcohol they need, they may become violent and hurt folk. That was the rationale. Not if they can't get to Jesus or get to church if they can't get to alcohol.
Because you're non-essential. Because they saw no unity amongst us and everywhere. So Martin Luther King said what?
What did he say? The most segregating time in America is Sunday morning at 11. Now at 10.30 or 10 or whatever time. Come on, it is the most segregated hour. All of us go to our different silos, worshipping our God indifferent to everybody else. Luke said, no, that ain't how we did it.
We don't even want to call it. Jesus said, they got to be in a symphony. I believe the Spirit of the Lord asked me a question one day about the symphony thing. And he said to me, so when is, what would you consider the most essential time in a symphony opera for the musician? I said, essential time. That's the most important time. What's the most important time?
I'm thinking, okay, when they got a solo? Nah, I want it. He said, tune it, tune it. That's essential. Yes, that's right.
But that won't end either. He told me that the most essential time for somebody planning orchestra was when they weren't playing. I said, what? He said, because they know when not to play. Because to not play is unity.
Yeah, I am. Did you hear what I just told you? Because it's not in the score to play at that point for you. You can't hit the bell. You can't decide I'm going to play a solo on my bell.
No, you can't. It's not, so you got to wait until, see, bit perfect right there. Don't play it, don't hit it again.
It ain't ding ding. But nobody who's in the orchestra is taking their eyes off the sheet music. Everybody knows when it's their time to play.
And they don't miss it at all. Because their eyes is on the conductor and the score, which is the vision. So that the world, that's the audience, so that the world, and by the way, you notice the conductor is really not concerned about that audience. He's concerned about the orchestra. The orchestra is facing the world, the audience. And the audience now is hearing a sound that is beautiful because they're being conducted and they're in tune with one another in everything that they do.
And they know when and when not to play. So you've been sitting in church for a while. You're not doing a thing. And you are happy about not doing it too. Because why? It ain't my time. I'm not trying to make up nothing.
It ain't my time. Because there is a conductor and a concertmaster. This person for me represents the pastor or the leadership in the local church. That concertmaster who's their conductor. The conductor is the Jesus of the conductor. The only person in hand he should. Who are the concertmasters. You are the team leader for all of this so that I can lead them into where I need to lead them.
And if the conductor don't bring you in, you don't come in. But how many people are playing and they should be? How many people should be playing and aren't? We're waiting for you to play your part.
You're at home looking at a basketball game. You're missing an action. It's your time. It's your moment.
You see? I'm going to teach you a chapter before my time is just flying out. It's going to get good.
It's going to get good. Alright, y'all with me? Okay. Okay, before I go any further, right now. Before I go any further, tell me at this point. Because I do this at my church.
I do this at the end of my services every time. What have you learned so far? Talk to me. Don't preach to me. Just tell me. What have you learned? What have you heard? What have you learned? Talk to me.
Bucks in six. Well, one voice and one sound, right? One voice and one sound. What else have you learned? No power in dissension.
Some of there is power in unity. Great. What else? Yes, sir? No wind to play.
No wind to play. Passion. Yes, Lord.
Be a one accord. Yeah. Yes. Yes.
You didn't know that. Yes, sir. Yes. That's good. Yes, sir. Take that message out to others. Yes, sir.
Anything else? Come on. Yes, sir. Yeah, I learned that Giannis was the best player in the NBA. Two nights ago, my daughter put on Rise, that movie. Have you ever watched that? Yes, about his life. It's about his folks that came to Greece and were illegal all those years and how he made it to the big leagues.
It's a great movie. His mom was a Christian believer. That's how come they had the guts to stick it out.
Being illegal in Greece all those years. That's awesome. Yep. He is the best player in the NBA.
That can be disputed because a lot of people think Kevin Durant is that, but I think it's Giannis. How about playing the instrument you've been given? Play the instrument you've been given because they're not jumping around from oboe to violin to piano. Right. Right. Play the instrument you've been given.
I like it. Yes, sir. Wait on the conductor.
My God. What would it look like in our local churches if we got to the point that we could fight for unity so that the conductor would show up? That we're not satisfied until we're in total unity so that the conductor can take his place. Play your part. Good.
Anyone else? No when not to play is important. Very important because you're staying on the sheet of music. But when nobody ever sees me, I'm waiting patiently to play because I know I have gifts. I know I have talent. I know I have ability.
The reality is it's hard to sit there and not have your gifts used when you see people who's gifts are used and you know your gifts are better than theirs. How do you walk through that? Well, that's amazing because again, when you look at the symphony, many times you forget that the percussion is over there. Until one smash of the cymbals and you go, oh, you are over there. They've been sitting over there the whole time but none of the music was set up for them to play. But when it was time for them to play, they added what needed to be added at that proper time.
So if I learn the way, my sound will be amplified and even better than if I try to make my way. Oh, he does. Yes. Somebody back here. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Yeah, that's right.
You got to read that score for a while. I'll tell you when to play. Yes, sir. Hit them cymbals. 1A chord or B flat.
1A chord. That's really good. I'll steal that, thank you. Don't confuse waiting with complacency. That's good. That answers his question. Don't confuse waiting with complacency. In other words, don't say I'm waiting until somebody comes and asks, I'm waiting until God moves me. He talks about this. If you don't start stepping towards the conductor, he's not going to be able to use you.
Because you don't have a passion. If you're sitting there waiting, he can't move anything stationary. If you make it happen, he's not going to force you. Nope.
Nope. And he's not going to come play for you. That's one of the most dangerous things you can do if you like your complacency. Say the prayer, God used me how you see fit. And you'll be amazed how many things start popping out of your head. Okay, I got to start working on this now. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
How about show up, be in line so the oil will hit you. Whoa. You in Ephesians? Yes, sir. So the symphony can see both the conductor and the audience.
Yes. What happens when they take their eyes off the conductor? Yeah, they're going to miss their cue. They're going to miss their cue. And they could play too loud. It's interesting because he's not just doing hand movements. Every one of these hand movements means something. And so if he wants them to play softer, their eyes not following him. And now you may be playing the right note, but it's too loud.
Because I wanted to pull you back. You see? And so that conductor is really important to know how to do and how to move.
And again, that's also going to be a part of in rehearsal and all that of the concert master even making sure all that is in place as well. Yes, sir. Fixing horaries of Jesus. Yes, sir. Finish of our faith. That's it. Yes, sir.
This is the conductor. Is it time for us to testify to other people? Yes. I'm testifying tomorrow.
Yes. I'm testifying tomorrow. I want to hear everybody. I'm testifying tomorrow to somebody I don't know. I want to hear you all.
I'm testifying. Again, we're not listening to a message. We're not trying to hear a message. We're trying to spread a message. You see? And you could introduce, you could introduce Justin Paul to somebody there.
No clue that was there. You don't even know what that's about. So let me give you another example. How long do I have time? My time is almost up. Okay, good, good, good. Okay, good. So, so watch this. So this is what I, this is, let me, let me, let me, let me show you something. Let me show you, let me show you how to get some unity in your heart. Is that okay?
Yes. Okay, real quick. And we're going to do it by prayer. Okay, we're going to do it by prayer. So Roy, this is what I want you to do. This is what I want you to do. Roy, I want you. I want you to pray, just a prayer, general prayer.
In a minute, I want you to pray it out loud. As we conclude today's show, TAWCMM, Talking and Walking Christian Men's Ministry, are building a community of men to be servant leaders in their home, communities, churches, and work environment. Check us out on our website for upcoming events and regular scheduled meetings. Don't forget to send us an email for topics that you would like us to visit in the future. Thank you for joining us today on Man Talk. Visit us at TAWCMM.com.
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