The road to greatness is never walked alone. In fact, greatness is never achieved in a vacuum.
It's forged in community. Today I'll share with you how to spot the kind of relationships that produce greatness in those you touch and how to find mentors that bring out the very best in you. Stay with me. Thanks for joining us for this Edition of Living on the Edge with Chip Ingram. Chip's our Bible teacher for this international teaching and discipleship ministry focused on helping Christians live like Christians.
And you know, there's no question that the people we surround ourselves with impact how we think, behave, and live. But Chip will take it a step further as he wraps up our series, Good to Great in God's Eyes. Hear how healthy, God-honoring relationships can actually help us become all that God wants us to be and more. Well, with that, here's Chip with the remainder of his message, Pursue Great People from Proverbs chapter 13. Who are the people in your Mount Rushmore? Mine was a coach, another my sister, another Dave, and the fourth over here is Howard Hendricks.
And you've heard lots of stories, but I learned from Howard Hendricks that you could take your gift and you could dream a dream and you could have clear, I still remember on the board him writing objectives, priorities, schedule, discipline. God will never love you more than he loves you right now, gentlemen. He said, but his blessing, his blessing is dependent upon your obedience. You can never earn his favor.
There's no brownie points, no gold stars on the refrigerators in heaven. But every man needs to make up his mind, what do you want to do with your life? So you need to have an objective and a target. You want to be a man of God? Determine, I want to be a man of God.
And if you want to be a man of God, it has to be a priority, more important than anything or anyone else. And then you have to put that in your schedule and say, what does it look like? When will you get up? What will you read? What will you do? And then you got to discipline yourself to do it, not to earn anybody's favor, but God's those four things. You know, prof taught me that you're given gifts and life's a stewardship.
And God really does want to bless ordinary people. Who's on your Mount Rushmore mentally right now? Who are those people? Because it's going to tell you where the needs surface.
It's going to tell you what antennas because those needs that those people met are going to be the needs also probably in the future. Well, I'm going to give you my last one right in the center where everyone else looks is the person who has impacted my life more than Howard Hendricks or punky or Dave Marshall or coach, and that is my wife. My wife has had more impact on my life than anyone else. Because she has more integrity.
I live up close. She has more integrity than anyone I know. She has more devotion to God evidenced by watching her get up for years and get up in the wee hours of the morning even we had small kids, and I've seen her on her knees and I heard her cry out for God. And I've watched her pray and I've watched her support me. She is more mentally tough than any player in any game on any team I've ever played on.
And it's something I admire. There just ain't no give up in Teresa. And those of you that know our story, she was a single mom for a while. And she had a tiny little boy on each hip and no way to support herself and trying to figure out what to do. And she clung to God and came to Christ and God supplied. And I'll tell you what we've been through some really we've been through times digging quarters out of the backseat.
You know, just not you know, five, six, seven, eight dollars in a co-op and taking the fruit and vegetables to live on. And you know what, I've never heard her complain about our lifestyle. I've never ever heard her cry. You know, so far every time we move she knows for sure it's God's will and she knows she doesn't want to do it.
I mean, it's just a pattern. Don't take me out to that little place and she cried in the Chinese restaurant. And then when we went from Kaufman to all the way out to California, she and all the kids cried all the way to Amarillo and then when it was California back to Atlanta, she cried and you know what, there's a lot of women who say, you know, honey, if you want to go, you just go ahead. You know, my family's here, things are here.
My wife submits to God and does what he wants her to when it feels good and when it's terribly painful. And when you live up next to that kind of loyalty and courage and integrity and devotion, I'll tell you what, I mean, that exaggerating in messages, you can only do that so long with someone after each time you do it, say, Chip, why did you lie to those people today? I mean, she looks really like sweet and everything. And she is. But she's a very, very tough sweet. And she's changed my life more than anyone else.
She's filled the gaps and the wounds and the deficits more than anybody else. If you want to pursue great people, start first with your rear view mirror. And I would encourage you as just a little discipline, you can change the faces, you know, it's okay.
But go through and jot down the four or five people that have most impacted your life and you will begin to see exactly who God has used and likely the roles that he'll want to use in the future. Next, I encourage you to look out of the windshield of your life. And out of the windshield, we all need three kinds of people. And since Howard Hendricks was my mentor, I want to give credit here.
This isn't from me, this is from him. But see, I caught it more than it was taught. And Prof Hendricks would tell you and tell me we all need three kinds of people. Number one, we all need a Paul in our life.
We need someone to learn from. Second, we all need a Barnabas, a friend, a peer, someone to share life with someone that you're just hand in hand, arm in arm, you know, you're on the same page at the same level. And third, we all need a Timothy, we need someone that we're helping grow. A Barnabas, someone you share life with, a Timothy, someone that you give life to, and a Paul, someone who helps you. So let me ask you, you got a Paul in your life?
You have a person in your life that is kind of a go-to person that helps you grow, that you know they're a few miles down the road spiritually than you and you can talk to them and ask them and pray with them. Do you have a Barnabas? Do you have a soulmate? Do you have someone that you can just, you know, you're in this life together, you can pick up the phone and instantly you're on the same page. And then do you have a Timothy? Do you have someone that you are building into their life and praying by God's grace that what Dave did in my life and what Prof did in my life, they'll be in yours? I'll give you three quick examples because it's very rare to have ones that are in your life for a long period of time, right?
We move, a lot of things happen. What I find is that Paul may be this person this year, another person two years from now, another person and the different roles for different seasons of your life. And you know what you might, but now and then you get a Paul that sticks around and a Barnabas that sticks around and a Timothy that sticks around that I think is both rare and precious. But I went to a little country church and man, I needed a father figure and there's a guy on the elder board there named AC and he just took me under his wing. And we worked out together and I shared struggles with him.
My older boys were like third grade then. He's counseled, rebuked, invested, painted bathrooms in the house with me and just done life. I mean, you know, when I was coming out here, you know, I'm going through issues like you're going through issues and he's got issues in my life. You know, I came out a day early and I came out a day early so we could meet with one other guy, but I wanted just to get with AC. So there's one man I could unzip my heart and say, Hey man, here's the hot ones in me. How are they going in your life? I knew we took some walks, we ate some meals, we got a couple workouts and then we just kind of data dumped, heart dumped. I need that. I got to have a Paul in my life.
I don't think he ever outgrow it. And then we were eating lunch and you know, this is what Paul's do because they have the freedom. He had this little card. I couldn't read it. It was real small and we'd been eating and talking and you know, we're really close and he pulls out this little white card and he has this goofy, he does a lot of goofy stuff to tell you the truth, but he had this kind of goofy look and he said, and I could tell he's reading off this card. Have you viewed any sexually explicit material in the recent past?
And I'm thinking like what happened to pass the hamburger or something? And you know what I knew? What I knew is he was dead serious.
I said, no. He said, have you in any way misused your finances or use them in a way that wouldn't under God in the past 60, 30, 90 days? And I mean, he went through my thought life, my sex life, my integrity, and then the last question after he went through this list, he smiled.
He said, have you lied to me in your answers of any of the last five or six questions? Got a Paul? You know how much that protects you? So you got to pursue great people.
Got to go after them. You also need a Barnabas at a fellow that we just linked hearts first basketball trip out guy named Glenn Miller. And Glenn was a man of devotion and heart and love.
And he went off later to be a missionary in Sri Lanka later became a pastor. And for 20 years, Glenn and I have stayed in touch and he's just been a peer. He's a little bit older than me. He's like that little bit older big brother, but I was a little farther ahead early spiritually. And so the first trip we went on, we memorized the book of Philippians together.
The next trip we went on, we memorized the book of James together. This guy's got zeal that is over the top. He leaves me voice messages in Tagalog. Hey, Ingram, how are you doing, buddy? Are you rejoicing in the Lord? Hey, hey, isn't it sweet? He's just, he talks about God like he's just in the room and he's just, I mean, this is a winsome Barnabas. And what I know and what he knows is no matter where we're at in the world or the country, it's just we're peers. He's got a dream where he's building orphanages now in Africa, along with pastor in the church. And someone who's just running kind of at the same place in the track with you that you can bounce stuff off of. Third area is Timothy, someone you get to invest in.
And there was a guy who was a football coach in that little town. And AC had me and him meet together and we'd review and memorize these verses. So you do life together. You're thinking great thoughts and reading great books. I don't know about you.
I'm not disciplined to do that. But you find a couple guys or you find a couple of gals and you say, let's do it on this morning at this time. And we went to the feed store and we'd eat a little breakfast and we'd all go over our verses and memorize a couple of verses and little by little by little by little, you grow. And pretty soon he's a football coach, defensive back. His name was Steve. And Steve came on staff at that little church and it started to grow. And then I went to California and he came to the college group and then he did the small groups and then he did this and then he ran the staff and then he hit 45. And I'll never forget the day because we worked together for 18 years.
I got way more credit. I could kind of dream it and he could make it happen. And he hit 45 and I hit it about a year or two before him. And he said, you know something? You know that agreement we had?
We're going to work together as long as we live until God brings us to a point where we think we do more good for the kingdom apart. And since we're both a couple of old coaches, he said, hey dude, I think that the run has ended. And I said, I think you're right. And we were learning some things and leadership together. And he said, you know, I've done every job in this church and there's only one I really want to do and you're not retiring, are you? I said, no, I'm not. He said, then I got to do what you're doing.
I got to be a senior pastor. Guess what he's doing? You know what he's doing? He's doing what I got to teach him and what I got to learn from prof. See, you pursue great people.
And now you get on the phone and sometimes those Timothy's just turn into Barnabas's. And I learned more from Steve than I'm sure he's ever learned from me. Pursue great people. And you know, you'll never have time in your schedule to do it.
Busyness is the curse of our day. And I struggle with it as much as you, you will have to come up with a specific plan, but you got to look out the windshield and ask yourself who out there could be a Paul in my life right now, who out there could be a Barnabas that I could share life, who could be a Timothy that, and you know what? You only have to be a half a step ahead of someone to teach them what you know. You don't have to have it all together.
Final thing I'd like to share here is get you started without getting you discouraged. And so I want to give a warning to heed, a warning to heed. And the warning is this for Timothy's looking for Paul's. Often God's will use a variety of people don't believe there's some person that will have it all together. That's going to be this person that is going to sustain and help you grow for the rest of your life. It'll be more like a revolving door of different people, different seasons to meet different needs as you grow. Now sometimes you get that special person that, you know, that you stay in touch with them.
I think it's more rare than it is normal. So, so when you're looking for that Paul, don't get your expectations like they're going to meet with you every week and it's going to be this way or that way. Secondly, a warning for Paul's looking for Timothy's. You can't get where all you do is give. Some of you are in a season of your life where you're giving to people, you're giving to people, you're giving to people and, and, but there's no one giving in to you. And you find, you don't, can't figure out why you're losing the joy and you're tired because you know what?
You got all, you need some VEP people in your life, very encouraging people. When you're a Paul and people are looking to you and you've hit a time of maturity and you're helping this guy over here in a Bible study with these women over here and then you're teaching over here and you're trying to raise this, you can give, give, give and Paul's what happened is a lot of people really get burned out because no one's given to them. You don't give yourself permission to get renewed. You don't give yourself permission to have fun. You don't give yourself permission to let someone build into your life or have a few relationships.
This is hard for some of you guys and some of you driven women. Have some relationships where you don't have to get anything done. You just get to hang out. I mean tonight at supper I got to eat with a couple of real buddies. I mean guys that, you know, I go way back with and part of it, I mean they're so built in my life but one of the great things about them, we just hang. I mean we laugh. I mean we play golf.
We play tennis. I mean we just cut up. We share our hearts but just having some people in your life that I mean when I'm around them I don't have to be anybody but Chip. I mean I don't have to be a pastor. I mean I don't have to perform.
I'm not worried about that. They just love me. They just love me and they like to be with me and I like to be with them and if you're a Paul, you got to have some of that in your life and if you don't, you'll find yourself hurting. Let me give you now a word of perspective to consider is that I think what happens is we get these categories and I'm going to suggest that you know every category of Paul's and Barnabas's and Timothy's is God often will give role players in your life and I've put a few of them here and I'll give you a couple highlights and you know they may be a Paul but their role as a Paul is a father figure.
That was AC for me. Huge huge impact in my life but then some people God gives you a cheerleader. Someone who just cares and it gets excited for you and I was a young guy in this church and the little church was growing.
It becoming a meeting him size church and I had this dream in my heart and I thought I couldn't even say it out loud. I wanted to be the pastor of a large church. Doesn't that sound arrogant? Doesn't that sound terrible? Doesn't that sound like you're trying to make a big something of yourself? But I just had this desire.
I just saw how they worked and I wanted that kind of impact and I remember saying out loud to Don Geiger, Don I just feel so bad and so terrible because I've got this desire and he says, well why do you feel bad? Well isn't that ambitious and isn't it wrong? He said, well why do you want to be the pastor? Is it so you can be a big someone? Well I said no.
I said I just think that's where I would really flourish. He said Chip, I get people calling all the time. He was the pastor of a large church. He said they're really hard to find.
It's a unique gift mix and you have that gift mix. It's God calling you to do that. He was my cheerleader. He just said go for it man and you know what within a year and a half Santa Cruz called and but I couldn't have gone there if that cheerleader wasn't in my life. Sometimes God will bring a prophet in your life.
A guy named Bill Lawrence, my wife and I sat in a little room and he evaluated my preaching and he looked me right in the eye and he said Chip you've got some real gift. You've got some real gift in communicating. I'm thinking.
Thank you. He said but I can't figure out something. I said what's that? He said I can't figure out whether you're just downright lazy or you don't believe in preaching.
I mean a real man would never do that in front of your wife. I said excuse me? Said yeah I just can't figure out. He said I can see how your mind works. Oh you do a good job with the text.
The last 10% you're just lazy. You're shooting shotguns. You don't shoot bullets. Tell you what you need to put another five six seven hours in on that last part of the sermon. It needs to be clear. It needs to be concise.
It needs to be focused. You need to shoot a bullet, a Teflon bullet that bang goes through and God uses and he's giving you a gift to do that. You're shooting shotguns.
Real BB's. It doesn't take you much time to prepare. You like to study but you're not doing the hard part at the end. Now is it because you're just lazy or you don't believe in the power of preaching? And man I'll tell you what he rocked my world. And you know I looked over to the sweet lovely Teresa looking for compassion like tell me it's not so honey. And she looked at me and goes he doesn't believe in preaching.
He's not lazy but he doesn't believe. All he does is wants to do these discipleship groups, discipleship groups and he just gets a he doesn't believe in preaching. And a man I'll tell you what I decided that I before God would I wrote on a card my goal is to preach great messages for God. Does that sound arrogant?
What do you think God wants? Okay ones? Bad ones?
So so ones? And I decided whatever it would take for me to learn to preach great and then I listened to people preach. I went to people preach. I listened to tapes.
I read books and then I did that last seven to ten hours to get it from a shotgun to a bullet. Got any prophets in your life people that aren't worried about offending you? See there'll be Paul's at times Timothy's at times but they're role players. You're listening to Living on the Edge with Chip Ingram and he'll be back to finish his talk in just a minute. But first if you'd like to learn what it really means to be genuinely great in the eyes of God join us after the message. Chip will highlight a resource we've developed from this study that will help you dive deeper into these habits and put them into practice in your everyday life. Stick around to learn more. But for now here again is Chip.
How about a sponsor? You ever been in a situation where you needed someone to lift you up and move you to a place that you never get there on your own? I was in a little breakfast nook and a guy had come by the church and said, hey you know we got a wonderful plan for your life and we think you'd be really good on radio and we couldn't use you on our station but you really ought to consider it and I was eating breakfast with a guy named Dick.
And man we're doing five services video overflow with five services. I thought that's the dumbest thing in the whole radio. Who listens to radio?
You know what isn't that crazy? I can't believe that because he was a mentor in my life and you know we'd play golf about every Thursday or every other Thursday and I'd bounce my sermon off him and I'd ask him all my leadership questions and he always was helping me grow personally and learn how to lead and I'd ask him all kind of questions and just glean and I remember him sitting across he said I'm gonna call you tonight. I said okay. And then towards the end he said I don't need to call you. I said okay you need to do the radio thing. I said what? You need to do it. I mean this is not this is a sponsor.
This isn't like it'd be a good idea. Why don't you pray about it? God has shown me.
You need to do it. I said well I don't know anything about radio. I don't know how much it costs. I don't know. He said it doesn't matter.
So what do you mean it doesn't matter? We'll have to do. He said just do it. I said well how? He said I'll pay for the first year. I said well how much will it cost? He says I don't know. He said but whatever it is I'll just pay for it. God's in this. God used him to launch.
I didn't want to do it. See God will bring people into your life that will sponsor you but guess what? You got to pursue and get around people. Find great people who pray. Find people with great marriages. Find great leaders. Find people that are raising good kids. Find people that are doing the kind of things that you want to become like and figure out a way to get next to them.
Pursue great people and God will bring sponsors and cheerleaders and you know a counselor, a hero. Joe Stoll you know I wasn't kidding. He's one of my heroes. I think you always want to have someone to say that like is in your line of work I want to be like him.
I want to be like him. So I listened to Joe. When I have a big decision I called Joe.
A hero. I think God wants a counselor in our lives. Someone that you can open up your heart and share.
There's a guy named Dick Meyer. He was a counselor counselor and you know those wounds and those things we talked about? Sometimes you got to pursue a great person you got to pay them because there's stuff you don't know how to figure out and you got friends and they're counselors and you just say hey I don't know. My ball is lost in the weeds as probably would say but I don't know how to get it untangled and they sit down with you and they share insight and life and truth. Which of those in that list do you need in your life? Which specific role player? What do you need?
What kind of person what even as I'm speaking what kind of names or faces are coming to your mind that aren't on your old Mount Rushmore but if you were going to build a new Mount Rushmore who could go on there to say I think this person could have a positive impact in my life. I want to be more like him. I want to be more like her.
Have you got it? Then let me give you an action plan to go on. Number one an action plan to follow. I gave you a perspective to consider role players and now an action plan to follow. Number one pray earnestly and we just learned what earnestly meant right? I mean I don't think these people are hanging on trees and I'll guarantee their schedule is full and so you pray earnestly Lord show me.
Number two take initiative. I just over the years I just have an antenna well as soon as I got to Atlanta I thought who Lord who I got to find some guys that are walking with God. I got to find some guys that really love you. I got to find someone that you know is farther down the road than me and I just started looking for I know I need a cheerleader. I need a confident.
I need a sponsor. I need role players. I don't know if they're going to be my Paul and I'm still going to call on the phone and actually arrange my schedule but I've got to find people who are going to be a Paul in my life.
And then I got to find some Barnabases and then I got to ask myself okay it's a new world it's a new day. Is there some people that you want me to invest my life in? But you take initiative and three start in your relational network. The Paul, Timothy's and Barnabases are probably already in your relational network. Start there.
Four is ask for help. This is amazing it's sometimes I don't I was just in Florida and had a chance to meet with some people who had been very kind and generous to the ministry and there was a guy there that had been a mentor with a leader that I really respect. He's a Christian leader who I think maybe just in terms of sheer leadership gift maybe the finest that I know. I mean I've read and listened and this guy I found out as we played nine holes of golf had mentored this guy and he talked to me about it and I just I just couldn't resist. I thought you know I don't know I don't know what role he's going to play in my life but you know what if he mentored that guy he's pretty good. So you know I played golf we had a dinner and then I taught a Bible study and and I just you know what you have not because you asked not and I walked over to this guy said excuse me John can I get a word with you before I go I gotta catch a plane yeah. John you know what you did for that guy yeah would you help me?
This organization is growing so rapidly I'm over my head and he's in a way way bigger organization that's way more complex. Would you help me the way you helped if I called you would you give me time on the phone and if I asked you questions would you help me? He said I'd be glad to and I said great well I don't have any contact and you know what someone else was talking and this guy walks back to me and he goes here here's my personal card and here's my other card and he said just give me a call anytime. See the kind of people that want God to use their life they're looking for eager Timothy's who want to grow and want to learn pursue great people pray earnestly take initiative start with the relational network ask for help here's the one persevere they often say no ten times before they say yes I could tell you my prof Hendrick story you don't want to hear it I don't want to tell it took me three years persevere persevere persevere or do it by proxy a lot of people that have mentored me I just I can't get close to them but they got books I've listened to them I find someone close to them I ask them questions as the church was growing I went around to every major place in America where things were growing and I tried to get near the guy who did it and if I couldn't I got next to the guy who was next to him if I couldn't then I get you know what I'm going to get as close as I can or I'm going to read what they wrote or I'm going to listen to it because there's a lot of different ways to keep growing and finally make time in your schedule you'll never have it no one's going to call you on the phone and say would you like to be mentored would you like to really grow would you like to put in some time and be very disciplined very focused the next five to seven years that will totally transform your life and probably the life of your entire relational network and possibly could change the world in a radical way no one is going to call you and say that but you know what you can do you can pursue great people and you can look for your Paul and you can look for a soulmate Barnabas and then all the while you find someone that you have a little bit more than they have and you start giving it away and I'm telling you you'll become great in God's eyes. You're listening to Living on the Edge with Chip Ingram and the message you just heard pursue great people is from our series Good to Great in God's Eyes. Chip will join us in studio to share some insights from today's talk in just a minute. Now you may be thinking what separates a good Christian life from a great one? Well in this series Chip walked through a handful of vital habits that can deepen our intimacy with God, ignite our passion for his word, and empower us to live a life of impact.
Let me encourage you to go back and revisit any part of this series at livingontheedge.org or through the Chip Ingram app. Well Chip's back in studio with me now and Chip you know busyness has become an inescapable part of our lives here in the 21st century. Everyone seems to have an exhausting routine and amount of daily tasks and unfortunately that to-do list attitude has impacted our spiritual lives too hasn't it? It absolutely has Dave and I think one of the things we forget is that we really are a product of our habits and as the seasons change or we're in a brand new season we have an opportunity to develop some new habits. If we continue just to respond and react to life we live very very frustrated lives or if we find ourselves going through the motions you know check the box, went to church, read the Bible really quickly, prayed in the car.
I mean that's how people start living and then you get desperate. This series Good to Great in God's Eyes are the 10 practices that great Christians have in common. I've been told by a couple people that I really respect that it is the best series that has helped them in terms of really developing the kind of habits of thinking great thoughts of praying great prayers of taking great risks of enjoying great moments. It's very simple, it's very applicable and what I found is if you want the results of love and joy and peace and patience and impact then we actually need to do the things that Jesus did and follow in the footsteps of great Christians and this small group resource will allow you to do that in the context of people and encourage one another along the way. Well, Chip, today you explained why it's important we all find a Paul, a Barnabas and a Timothy to join us on our life's journey, but I'm sure there are a lot of people thinking that sounds like a lot of work or how do I even begin to seek out those relationships.
What would you say to them? Well here's what I'd say Dave is that this is not like a burden. This isn't like here's the big assignment go find a Paul, a Barnabas and Timothy and get with it right now. I think this is a recommendation for people who really want to grow and this is to say we all need someone farther down the road and I think sometimes we get this idea that it's a super formal relationship and I think at this point you just stop and say you know who has a marriage like the one I'd like to have or who walks with God or prays in the way that someday I'd like to pray and have that kind of a intimate relationship or who has work-life balance in a way that really encourages me and you just say hey could we grab a cup of coffee or could I buy you lunch and that's where I've done over the years and sometimes it gets formalized after that but I just think finding someone that you admire some aspect of their life that helps you become more and more like Jesus that's the Paul and then I think the Barnabas situation is one where you just can't do life alone.
I mean you have to start asking yourself who am I going to do life with who can I be honest with who can I be vulnerable with who kind of loves me like I am but won't let me stay like I am and and then building that into your schedule. I think we often have these people all around us but we're so busy trying to produce or get ahead that we don't take the time to build these relationships into our schedule and then I think the final one is just you have to pass it on and I don't think you necessarily have to say these are my Timothy's and you write their name down and here's all the things they need to learn from me but I think it's starting first and foremost I mean if you're if you're a parent having that kind of relationship with your kids how do I invest in them? How do I make the Bible exciting and not boring? What are we going to do in terms of passing on my faith to them in good ways and fun ways and in times where we're really really intentional? So this is not a burden. This is a matter of getting some categories to say I want to be a great Christian.
I don't want to just maintain or be okay or my goal is not just to be happy. I want the Father to see my life as I cross the finish line and kind of nudge one of the angels and say that was that was a great Christian. God loves us all the same but he's more intimate with some than others.
He uses some more than others. This whole series is about being one of them and the disciples last question was an argument about who is greatest and Jesus didn't chide them. He said this is how to be great and I believe he was saying greatness is something the Father values but it's in humility and it's in pursuing him that greatness is achieved.
Great word to wrap up this series Chip, thanks. But before we go I want to quickly thank those of you who regularly give to Living on the Edge. You're making a big difference in helping Christians live like Christians. But if you're benefiting from our ministry and haven't started giving yet, let me encourage you to join the Living on the Edge team. You can do that by setting up a recurring donation at livingontheedge.org or by calling us at 888-333-6003. That's 888-333-6003 or visit livingontheedge.org. App listeners tap donate and thanks for doing whatever the Lord leads you to do. Well from all of us here, I'm Dave Druey thanking you for listening to this Edition of Living on the Edge and I hope you'll join us next time.
