Have you ever been praying and had a wicked, I mean a terrible thought just scream right through the middle of your mind? Or have you ever been driving your car and had an unexplained impulse to do something crazy or evil? What's the source of those wild, out-of-control thoughts?
Well, today on Living on the Edge, we're going to discover where they come from, how to combat them, and what to do when they enter your mind. You're not going to want to miss it. Stay with me. Um Thanks for listening to this Edition of Living on the Edge with Chip Ingram. We are an international teaching and discipleship ministry that motivates Christians to live like Christians.
Well today we're diving back into our series The Invisible War with the second half of Chip's message how to do battle with the enemy and win.
Well, he's got a lot of helpful insight to share, so grab your Bible and notes as Chip begins by opening up about his own encounters with the forces of darkness and what he did to combat them. Let's get going. I was um finding myself getting acutely, I mean Having a great day, having a great week. And every Saturday between 2 and 3 o'clock, going to a dark place that I just couldn't figure out what was going on. Doubts about my message, doubts about me, doubts about the worthiness of it, and fighting and struggling and fighting and struggling.
And we had an old, old man with white hair in his late 80s, godly, godly man, and he would pray every Saturday night with me, and before I could figure out what was going on, I would go back with him and We'd pray together and just like there would be an opening and great. Then finally I realized, wait a second. God has promised, my word goes forth and it won't return to me void. Numbers 23, 19 says, God is not a man that he should lie. neither the Son of man that he should repent.
Has he spoken? And will he not do it? Or has he set it and will he not bring it to pass? And so pretty soon I started that wall would come and I would just out loud say, wait a second, I'm going to teach your word, enemies, whoever you are, whatever you're trying to do, God is not in my, and then I would just quote scripture. Bam.
It's a dart. It would just be like... Put up the shield. Put up the shield. Third.
Trusting in God's program and timing. You ever have a decision? You're afraid about the future? Doubts about don't do that. They don't ever work out, don't leave family, don't relocate.
Don't take that new job. And yet God's leading. You know the plans that I have for you, Jeremiah 29:11, plans for good. and not for evil. to give you a hope.
in a future. Times when you feel like You know what, I I just I just can't stay in this marriage. I can't be this unhappy and this unfulfilled any longer. Whisper. You know, you're not getting any younger.
He'll never change or she'll never change. When those become into your mind Then you need To go to God's promise, 1 Corinthians 10:13 about temptation. No temptation or trial. Has come into my life except as common to man. But with the temptation, God will provide a way of escape that I might be able to endure it.
That's a lie. I'm not gonna believe that. Here's the thing: here's what you gotta get. This is spiritual warfare. You know that thought that creeps in like that?
You know that thought where you're just Just barely tempted, and you start down the path, you stop, and you address that with scripture. That spiritual warfare, those thoughts, those temptations. That second look, that third look, that person that treats you, and then you find yourself knowing there's going to be a meeting, and maybe you dress up a little bit nicer. You know, I've had guys tell me I started Looking forward to going to work and which meetings about, you know, who is going to be in the room. And I kind of have a connection, and things were kind of bad at home.
That you're in the battle. That's where it's at. And you don't try hard to get out of it. You have to stop. Claim God's word.
At the level of great embarrassment, but possibly maybe a lot of help. I did not grow up as a believer, and everything I learned about dating. Sex, relationships was not from the Bible. And I went to a school where there was four girls for every guy. And I would joke, ugly guys could get dates.
And um And I was a brand new Christian, and I was committed to being sexually pure, which was very unpopular.
Now and the sexual revolution had happened and Man, I mean A girl would come out of the guy's bathroom. Everyone was sleeping around and I'm like God, are you kidding? And uh and but I thought, you know, I hate hypocrites, and these are the kind of people, and And I'm struggling, so my behavior. Was uh pure. And my mind was in the ditch.
And I remember literally coming to a point where God I don't think I can ever win this battle of lust. And I I just I guess I'm going to have to quit the Christian life and that didn't work. Because the verses kept coming to my mind, and God says, You can resign from me, but I never resign from you, so get back up and let's. And I accidentally, and this was a revolution in my life. My roommate was a heavyweight wrestler, and he was in the, we both kind of came to the Lord at the same time, and I was on the basketball team, and we had this sort of good kind of competition, but he was very big and very strong.
And I was even smaller than I am now. And I came to him and I said, Hey, you know what? I'm trying to get up in the morning. Every night I say, I'm going to get up and read the Bible. And every morning I hit this news, you know, and I can't do it.
I can't do it. And he goes, Do you really want help? I said, well, yeah, Bob. Would you help me? He goes, I'll help you, but you really want help?
Absolutely. You really want help? Absolutely. So the very next morning, the alarm goes off, and I hit the snooze. And Bob says, You're going to get up?
I said, No, maybe tomorrow. Anyone have this problem? Maybe tomorrow I'll do it. This guy Rips off my sheet, grabs me by the ankle, and lifts me up like this, upside down. We had those communal bathrooms, knocks open the door, turns on the shower.
And he swings me. And it's, I mean, this is a true story. And I'm yelling, what are you doing? But the guy's a heavyweight wrestler. I mean, you know, I mean, I couldn't do anything.
And so I'm dripping wet, and he puts me down in the bed. He goes, Now, you want to be a man of God or not? Or just shut up at night.
Well, shock you, I got up. Um And the competition went on, and so Bob was going to go, they had these training programs. With the ministry, and you would go for a summer, but before you could go, you had to memorize these 60 verses. And I've always been very competitive. And so Bob was memorizing like one or two verses a week to get ready for this summer program.
And I wasn't going to go to any programs. But he left the room and he had these little cards. It was called the topical memory system. Just little cards with verses, which I thought paying back then $5 for cards that you can write yourself seemed stupid.
So when he left, I took three by five cards and I cut them as close as I could and I copied down all of his verses. And I didn't tell him and I hid them. And then I decided that I was going to show him how lame Wrestlers were, especially of how he treated me in the shower. And so I memorized a verse a day. And I reviewed them, and because I knew you're supposed to say the verse, then you say the title, like God's Word, 2 Timothy 3:16, you quote it, God's Word, 2 Timothy 3:16.
So I knew if you don't do it, that's the way you're supposed to do it.
So I did a verse every day. And then I had this amazing blessing of a psychology class. that was perhaps the most boring class ever given unto mankind. And so, and the tests were always the same. They were right out of the book.
You didn't even have to go to class. And so I would put my book up and sit in the back row and I reviewed verses the whole time. And then I remember, you know, I jogged a baseball practice, you know, and it was just like, hey, 60 days. I'm just going to say, hey Bob, how are you coming on your verses?
Okay. You know, I've been looking those over myself, you know, and I'm going to nail 60, just kill him.
Well, verse, I can still remember day 21. And you know I've now perfectly memorized and some of them were more than one verse. But they were on God's word. Purity. Prayer.
Just all the basics of the Christian life. and I came around a corner in front of the library and a co-ed that was very, very attractive and very godly. Um And I Sort of had a little crush on her. And I'm just going to be real vulnerable here. As a man, when you lust for women, you can feel very guilty.
And when you lust for a godly woman, you feel overly guilty. And I just, it was my mind. My mind was just. It was all those years of all that trash that I was put in my mind. And so it came around the corner and we had this conversation.
And then she left, and I left. I didn't lust at all. I mean, my eyes were at her eyes. And then I started to go to one cafeteria where all the basketball guys we would sit because it was a girls' dorm and there were four floors, and they would all walk by 7.5, 6, 9. I mean, it was terrible.
I'm just okay.
Sorry guys. No, forget guys. You've all done this.
Sorry, ladies. I mean, and I started and then I realized, wait a second. I don't want to go to that cafeteria yet. That's where my problem is. And I went to the other one.
And then day 22 is another verse. I didn't know. The power of God's word. And then this verse that I quoted, I found myself I did, no one taught me this, but like I'd come around a corner and this was a day where girls weren't wearing much. And my eyes, and I thought, okay, first look's not my fault.
After that, I gotta own it. And then the second look of the, okay, and literally out loud, sometimes I'm not exaggerating, 40 times in a day, I might find myself go.
Okay, love not the world, and the things in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. And all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the boastful pride of life, is not from the Father. And all that is in the world is passing away, but then it does the will of God abides forever. You know, and you go around another corner.
Oh, here we go. Love not the world. And I didn't know it, I was doing spiritual warfare. You know what happened? I gotta clean mine!
I'm not going to tell you it's perfect. I'm telling you. And then I understood that's true of fear. That's true of insecurity. That's true of afraid to take a step.
That's true of not having the courage to talk to someone. What I found was God's word quoted the moment you have an issue. trusting his character, trusting his promises, trusting his program. That was when we had major marriage issues. And no matter how hard we tried, it wasn't working.
And yes, we went to marriage counseling, but then it was. My God will supply all your needs according to his riches and glory in Christ Jesus. You need love to give her that you don't have. And love isn't a feeling. Love is giving another person what they need the most when they deserve it the least at great personal cost.
So that's what I'm going to give you for today. And there's been times where we took steps of faith and we thought, oh, we can't do this because we don't have any money, or the ministry doesn't have any money. My God will supply all your needs. I can do all things through Christ. You become a promise-centered Christian.
who's rooted in your life is a life of faith. Faith is not a feeling. Faith isn't, I feel good about this. Faith is believing in the character of God and the promises of God to the point that you act regardless of how you feel. And when you do that, guess what is?
God is what? He's a rewarder. of those who diligently seek him. He rewards faith. You will experience him.
So often, the fears, you take a step of faith. One side of a coin is called faith. I'm going to trust you. The flip of the cord is called obedience. And you obey when you feel like it, and when you don't, and you quote scripture out loud as all the thoughts bombard you.
And you put up the shield of faith and you quench these darts. Secondly, it's the helmet of salvation. It says, take the helmet of salvation. Literally, the word is to receive the helmet of salvation. It's a tense that says you have to get this, allow it to be given to yourself.
And I love the metaphor because it would be the last piece of equipment a Roman soldier would have. It was bronze and it was leather, it was the most protective, and you actually wouldn't put it on yourself. Armor Bearer. We put it on you. And so he's saying here, you need to receive the helmet of salvation.
And the definition is an obvious allusion to our security that we've been saved and justified as believers, safe. from Satan's attacks. But the focus now is on the present deliverance from sin. The word deliverance or salvation, that's what it means. You know, as you read the Psalms, every time he says he's delivered, he's not talking about justification.
He's talking about, I got away from Saul one more time. God delivered me. The word salvation means deliverance. Our deliverance from sin is our salvation. We're justified by the grace of God.
And so he's saying the helmet of salvation is the certainty of deliverance from sin and the protection of our minds in the battle. It's not something you can do. It's something you receive. but it's something you must allow God to do in your mind. And this is where the battle is.
How does it happen? Renewing your mind. Remember we read this passage? We Don't war according to the flesh. But the weapons of our warfare are not carnal or fleshly, right?
But powerful for what? pulling down every speculation and everything raised up against the knowledge of God, and we're taking every thought captive to the obedience of Christ. The helmet of salvation is where we renew our mind and take every thought captive. God's word protects us. When Jesus prayed and he was praying for us but praying for the disciples, John 17, 17, sanctify them or set them apart by your truth.
Your Word is truth. Colossians 3: Set your mind on the things that are above, not on the things that are on earth, where Christ is. Romans 8, 5 to 8. The mind set on the flesh is death. But the mind set on the Spirit is life and peace.
For the mind set on the flesh is hostile to God and it cannot please him. But the mindset on the spirit brings life. Are you getting the idea? The mind, the mind, the mind. Romans 12:2.
Don't be conformed to this world, be transformed by the trying hard, going to church, being religious. Oops, that's not what it says. But be transformed by the renewing of your mind. That you might prove or test or experience what the will of God is, that which is good, acceptable, and perfect. The only way to take every thought captive is Your mind has to be soaked in truth and in the scripture.
And when it is, when things come, God can bring to your mind.
so that you can do battle. And that's what protects you. The deceit happens in your mind and in your heart. The doubt is planted in your mind and in your heart. The helmet of salvation is the setting of your mind and the renewing of your mind.
I don't get up and read the Bible in the morning or memorize verses or for me, I find issues that I struggle with and I write what I call desire cards.
So part of my giftedness is to see what's wrong. It's a little bit of a, and think of this in the right sense, not telling the future, but a prophetic gift to see kind of what's wrong and what God might want and say, hey, let's do that. Let's be God's people. Let's be Christians who live like Christians. Where you kind of have to analyze what's not very Christian.
That's the light side of it. The dark side of that, in my personality, when I walk into a situation or I meet people in my inner thinking, I see what's wrong with everything.
Okay. And that, oh, I'm okay there.
Now I go critical.
Now when I was younger I would say it. It was bad.
Now I just think it. Bad.
So how do I overcome I mean, okay, here's: you need to understand: your greatest strength will always be your greatest weakness. You need to understand the most gifted, brightest, lightest part of how God wants to use you has a dark side, it has a shadow. And the enemy knows that. And so he'll push you, push you, push you, and take you to a place that's really bad. And so I have a card.
Because I want to renew my mind. And everything doesn't amount to a verse.
So I have a card and I read it quite often. It says, I long. To see people. the way God sees them. I long to view them.
not through their external looks, appearance, status, wealth, or position. but through their need. and relationship with God or not. And then I have a verse. From 1 Samuel, God sees not as man sees.
Man looks on the outward appearance. God looks on the heart. And so I sit. in a business class seat. with a very powerful person who's a CEO of some big thing, and my immediate reaction can either to be intimidated.
or to compare Or two. or I'm sitting on a bus. With a guy that's tattooed up here, tattooed up here, he's got a nose ring here, he's got something pierced here, something pierced here. And I play a game all the time. I'll look at that guy and I can think.
You know, a lot of people could think this guy's a really out there guy. And You know what? He might be one of those undercover Christians who's all tatted up to reach people that no one else can reach. And you think I'm messing with you. You know why?
Because I've met those guys. I'll never forget. I was preaching and wrapping a message up, and there was this guy on the front row, and he started coming. He had sort of, it was almost like a dress, and he had, you know, the whole Rossiferian hair, and had the sort of the beanie type thing that went to the side. Weird dude.
And then when we had a flute, and when we did worship, he would do this, you know. Like on the front row. And, you know, it's Santa Cruz.
So, you know, it's like, eh, you know, whatever. And so I get done preaching. And when I get done preaching, I would always come down the front and just talk to people and hear what's going on in their life. And he starts coming toward me. And I'm thinking, we didn't have security back then, but if we did, I would go, security, security.
And he comes to me, and we later called him Dan Dan, the hippie man. And Dan came up to me. Oh, Pastor. And he got about three feet away and I could smell him. And then he got closer and he wrapped his arms around me.
He said, oh, it's so good to meet you. I've walked across America. I've been listening to your messages. It's so good to be here. I would like to stay for a few months.
Let me tell you about my calling. I live on the streets and let me tell you why. This is what happened and this is how Jesus changed my life. And Dan helped me remember, you cannot judge a book by its cover.
Okay, so you understand though? The moment, the moment I start to judge. Then I have another verse that says, do not judge lest you be judged, for in the same way that you judge, your father will judge you. Do you understand? It's just truth.
Deception needs to get truth. Doubts need to get stability. All the kind of things where he's coming at you when you're tempted, you need to pull back. This is who God is. These are his promises.
This is what I'm going to do with my life. And it's engaging the enemy. I need to. Move on. Practically, prayer, worship music.
scripture teaching. Scripture, memory are all ways I think that we can renew our mind. You're listening to Living on the Edge, and Chip Ingram will be back to continue our series, The Invisible War, in just a minute. But let me quickly tell you that we are more than a broadcast ministry. We're supporting pastors globally, developing helpful resources, and sharing the gospel with this next generation.
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Well, here again is Chip. In 1 Thessalonians, Paul calls the helmet the helmet of hope. And it's this picture of deliverance that all the promises of God are yes. in Christ Jesus. Application.
You ready? Christians who are not filling their minds with Scripture are like warriors going to battle without a helmet. When we lose hope, we're defeated. Not just individually. But as a group.
And so now it says, take the sword of the Spirit, which is the Word of God. You know, you see in the movies, sometimes they have the really long swords or they have the small sword. This is about a two-foot sword, the word he uses, and this is for hand-to-hand combat. The sword of the Spirit is the Word of God. And most often in Scripture, we get the word Lagos, like in the beginning was the Word, and the Word was God, and the Word, right?
Lagos, Lagos. This is Rhema. This is the spoken word of God. Words given to us by the Spirit of God to do close hand-to-hand combat with the lies and the deceptions of the enemy. The truth of God's word quoted and applied to specific lies or deception of the enemy will allow you to take every thought captive to the obedience of Christ.
Jesus modeled this use of the sword of the Spirit in Matthew 4. A one to eleven. How can a young man keep his boy cure? By guarding it according to your word. Your word I've hid in my heart that it might not sin against thee.
Let your light be a light into my path. A lamp into my feet and a light into my path. The sword of the spirit is both an offense and a defensive weapon. And so You're probably thinking so are you going to tell us what happened that night? Yeah.
Um I'm now sitting up in bed. My wife is asleep. I'm drenched with sweat. I'm terrified. And I'm glad.
For that bricklayer who discipled me, I'm glad for scriptures I memorized. And I had to overcome, it doesn't really matter what my wife thinks. I'm not sure what's happening here. And this happened multiple, multiple times. In fact, later on in our journey in Santa Cruz, there were times where actually I would wake up and I would have this experience and I could hear something happening in every single one of the bedrooms with all my children.
And other occasions we had visual manifestations of demonic activity.
So all this stuff is real. And actually, my wife is more sensitive than me and has had far more of these kind of issues, even than me. And they happen very regularly, especially when those five things, when you're taking territory, et cetera. And so Scared to death, out loud. Said, Greater is he that is in me than he that is in the world.
And this is the victory that has overcome him. The blood of the Lamb, the word of their testimony, and they love not their life even unto death. I command you now, evil demonic spirits in my bedroom, in his authority, not mine, depart from my room and my house, and go where Jesus sends you, and do not return. Gone.
Now, just so you can be aware, as things got more intensified, and again, this is sort of the CHIP experience, not to be confused with scripture, but there were some times later when I would pray that and like, Uh whoa. Like Like, are bigger demons here? You know, like, I guess we'll go at that again, you know, and I would pray for a season and then they would leave. And And what I want to tell you is, you know those verses I gave you? All of my kids memorize those.
And I literally heard my 10-year-old son. Do spiritual warfare. And literally have this attitude. There was a time when we were all petrified and angry, and then there got to be a time where what happened? Oh, had one of those satanic nightmares.
It was terrible. And, you know, you do what you're supposed to do, and they're trying to make us afraid. And you know what? In Christ, we're invincible. Yeah, it was really loud, but the the gun is filled with blanks, and we're j we're just not g we're not going to let that address us.
I'm not going to live in fear. And you need to understand that's true if you're a child of God.
Now, notice in your notes there's something. Summary to engage the enemy in spiritual warfare. The prerequisite is a healthy spiritual life. What what I want you to know is that If you've left yourself open to things, it can be a lot more difficult. Second, is understand your position in Christ.
I mean, you need to understand, I'm a child of God. I've been sealed with the Spirit. There's no doubts here. Third is discern when demonic influence may be the cause. You know, you can't run to every problem you have, is somehow there's a demon behind every bush, but you discern.
And it gets pretty easy over time. Fourth is claim God's promises out loud. And yes, you'll feel silly. But it's way better than being terrified. And finally, take our authority and position in Christ and command demonic forces to cease their activity and depart, and they will.
They will. I'm going to close with an illustration that is the most helpful for me. It was one of those opportunities that I had in Santa Cruz, and because it's a picture that will help you. Because how do you take all this truth?
So I'm walking, there's a main thoroughway in Santa Cruz, and it's where there's street musicians, and it's wild, crazy, and there's a bunch of bars, but it's a really cool place to walk around, you know, and there's restaurants and other things.
So it's one evening, and I'm walking down, and it's outside of a bar, and there's a couple really big guys in black t-shirts. They're bouncers. They look really, really strong. I think they can, and they're messing with this one guy, and they don't seem to be able to handle him. And he's, and so pretty soon there's a crowd, and I'm just like everyone else.
I just join the crowd. I want to see what's going to happen. You know, like, oh, you know what's going to happen? Those big guys, and hey, he's saying he's getting, you know, go ask for help, security. And so more and more people.
And then someone called the police. And so it's getting more and more rambunctious and the onlooker is getting bigger and bigger and I wonder what's going to happen here and those big guys don't seem to be doing very good with this guy and he's thrashing around this and then a police car pulls up and I'm thinking, oh what's going to happen? And the door opens and okay ladies, now this is an illustration in no way to diminish female police officers. This is an actual Story. Because I'm thinking, these two big guys can't handle this, and the door opens.
And I'm telling you, if she was 4'11, maybe. Police officer. A woman. And I'm thinking Oh my, this is going to be interesting.
Well, and you know, it's one of those where the police car came, and you know, like two wheels are up on the curb, and there's this ruckus, and the crowd is growing. I'm thinking, I wonder what's going to happen. And she walks up like this. Sir, excuse me. They all get the tension, the two bouncers, and this guy's going crazy.
She goes, Sir, stand down. And he looks at her like this, and she puts her hand on a gun like this. Sir, I will say one more time: stand down. I don't know how drunk he was or what he was on, but he got very sober very quickly. And then she said, sir, I want you right now to turn around.
And he looked, and she walked over to him, you know, just like on TV, right? You know? Put his head down, get in the car. And you know the metaphor for me? You know what I realized?
She had a badge on from the state of California and the authority of the Santa Cruz Police Department to handle that situation. And she had a weapon that I don't care how wild he is, that 45 was much more formidable. I don't care how big, I don't care how strong, I don't care how drunk, I don't have how high, but I will tell you this. will outweigh that. And if necessary?
And what I want you to know Is that somehow you think this is a bunch of weird stuff for missionaries or pastors or super spiritual people? And I want you to know if you're a child of God, you have the authority of the living God. All power in heaven and earth has been entrusted to you. And you don't have a gun, you've got much more. You have the living.
Word of God. Hebrews 4.12, for the word of God is living. Active Powerful, piercing the division of soul and spirit, able to judge the thoughts. and intentions of the heart. And when you turn it off, Turn this word loose.
Demonic forces must obey. You never have to be afraid. God bless you. You're listening to Living on the Edge with Chip Ingram. And the message you just heard, how to do battle with the enemy and win, is from our series, The Invisible War.
Chip will join us in studio to share some insights from today's talk in just a minute. Right now, there's a spiritual battle happening all around us. We can't see it, but it's an epic struggle for our hearts and minds.
So what are we as believers supposed to do?
Well, through this eight-part study, Chip shares some insights from Ephesians chapter 6 for how we're to think about, prepare for, and respond to spiritual warfare. Learn why we don't have to be afraid because of the armor God's given us to fight back and fight well. To learn more about this series, visit livingonthege.org or the Chip Ingram app.
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Well, here again is Chip. In today's program, I told a story of a 4'11 police officer I believe is a excellent, excellent picture of who we are in Christ, where the real power is, and where our authority comes from. But here is my concern. My concern is that police officer went to the police academy. That police officer put on that uniform before that night and had a badge and was trained to use that weapon.
And my concern is that you're going to go out and start trying to use a weapon that you haven't been trained in. That you're going to say, I've got this authority, but you know, you haven't done much research and you don't really know who you are in Christ. And so this is not something we play around with. This is real. My recommendation is order the DVD, find four or five or six people and say, let's go to the Spiritual Police Academy.
Let's figure out who we are in Christ. Let's get our uniform on. Let's understand this badge of authority that we have. And let's learn to pull out the bullets, if you will, of Scripture the way Jesus did and know how to put up that shield of faith and wield the sword of the Spirit in a way that is accurate. and true and based on what we really believe.
I'm very concerned for God's people and I want you to study it for yourself, dig in, and I think the most effective way to do that is in a small group. That's right, Chip.
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Well, until next time, this is Dave Druy, saying thanks for listening to this Edition of Living on the Edge.