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Is there something new happening in the relationship between Israel and the United States. What do we make out of the first meeting between Donald Trump and Benjamin Netanyahu stage for the line of fire with your host activist, author, international speaker and theologian Dr. Michael Brown your voice of moral cultural and spiritual revolution Michael Brown is the director of the coalition of conscience and president of the fire school of ministry get into the line of fire now by calling 866-34-TRUTH.

That's 866-34-TRUTH here again is Dr. Michael Brown, though it is certainly significant that less than one month into his presidency, Donald Trump has met with Prime Minister Netanyahu in the White House is promising for new and better relationships with Israel. Although both Pres. Obama and Prime Minister Netanyahu always said that their relationships were positive. It's an open secret that they were icy and testy. It's widely believed that the Obama administration helped to work against Prime Minister Netanyahu being reelected in the last elections in some of even said why cry foul if Rush interfere with our election to interfere with Israel's. In any case, is this something new. Is this something better. What we to make of this.

And what about Pres. Trump saying he could be two state solution could be one state this is Michael Brown delighted to be with you on this thoroughly Jewish Thursday. So here's what that means means that will be focused on his real will be focus on the Middle East will talk about Islam as well will also take your Jewish related question so any Jewish related question can be Hebrew language can be Jewish tradition and custom can be Hebrew Bible specific question things having to do with Jesus, Yeshua being the Jewish Messiah.

If you have a Jewish related question your Jewish person listening is as I know many do that don't believe as I do and I don't believe that Jesus Yeshua is the Messiah maybe want to tell me why. Or maybe you'd like to get my input as to why he is the Messiah and the king of the Jews number.

Call 866-34-TRUTH 866-348-7884. A speaking of Jesus being the Jewish Messiah that also means that Jesus is Jewish and I saw this posted on YouTube the other day by an alleged Christian there was just last night, actually. And this is this is typical of the book the kind of hate mail that's posted and this this goes on to say it was quite remarkable.

First, it starts by saying that Jesus wasn't Jewish at all, then it says that in Israel there just white people always not really Jews who Jesus wasn't Jewish and the Israelis on Jewish there just killing ignorant children and then I am a snake that Jesus doesn't know at all. What's interesting is you have several typical satanic lies, all combined in actually was two consecutive posts on our YouTube channel on the starter Brown channel on YouTube. One of the lies Jesus is not a Jew, you know, the Nazi theologians try to argue for that they tried to strip Jesus of his Jewishness, which is a mean how to have you put that into words that would be like stripping the Nazis of their nationalism. That's the very part of their name, then the idea that the Jews in Israel aren't really Jews and with that, that there killing innocent children. Another major lie and then the last one of course we have that kind of spirit like an attitude will whom I follow Jesus a snake that Jesus doesn't even know not look when I read those things I I pity the fact that this even being posted them that that God set his love on that Jesus died for, and yet they're lost in that level of deception.

My heart goes out to them but it encourages me that when a spiritual battle that we are dealing with spiritual lies in the best way to expose them is putting out the truth. Paul said in second Corinthians 13 eight is nothing to be done against only for 866-34-TRUTH. Speaking of truth usually calls on the broadcast to come back and talk about Trump Netanyahu for plan by the Expo line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown your voice and more cultural and spiritual revolution. Here again is Dr. Michael Brown and so much in his so those extraordinarily voices seated men's choir a cappella singing from Psalm 127 if the Lord doesn't build the house. The labors labor in vain for this and watch the city, the watchmen watch in vain and there is so much to admire Jewish tradition so much that is beautiful so much that is devoted so much that is The Jewish people together through the centuries be used by God to do that very thing so much that is rich in wisdom and scriptural interpretation, and ultimately, I would say with pain, not with clothing and certainly not in the superficial way. Ultimately there was something very deep that is lacking that can only come through the Messiah through Yeshua through the forgiveness that he offers so when you hear those beautiful voices. Pray for the fullness of God's love and truth to be revealed to religious Jews around the world and I'm sure that that's a prayer they would pray for their own lives and something I would pray for my life to pray we can all pray God revealed the fullness of your love and truth, for each of us give us the courage and strength to follow you and your truth wherever it leads. Regardless of cost or consequence.

Hopefully it's a prayer all of us can pray the certainly pray for our Jewish friends, especially religious Jews around the world.

866-348-7884 so looking at a story on Ha'aretz.com which is a liberal left wing longtime Israeli publication in the story by Deborah Nussbaum Cohen from today earlier today or yesterday American Jewish leaders called Trump's ideas on Israel terrifying and bizarre. Terrifying and bizarre liberal American Jewish leaders. Respondent was concerned Thursday notice liberal marketers leaders after Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and US Pres. Donald Trump's meeting and the reason being one of the reasons being that they referenced. Possibly Donald Trump reference possibly a one state solution.

Now this is what former Secretary of State John Kerry had previously said that you cannot have one state and make it a Jewish state. If you want to have a Jewish state that you have to have two states. Let's say for example we want to have people from all different religions living in America free to practice their religion. But we say, but we want understand we are a Christian nation. So Sunday is our Sabbath and introduce traditional Christian views and these are these are the holidays and things like this. And these are our values and you'll see this in the public square. We are in overtly Christian nation, while other minorities which Jews and Muslims and Hindus, Buddhist others, and atheists would say will where we fit in that it's a will there's room for everyone, but we are a Christian nation.

What what would you do if we were, say, 60% Christian and 40% Jewish 40% Muslim 40% Hindu is that we are a Christian nation would then have a different application for everyone.

Would it not so the argument would be that the only way to have a Jewish state is you have to have a Jewish supermajority aft of the large percentage of the people Jewish and therefore your national anthem is hot. Take father hope in Hebrew, the famous melody that you all know the famous words celebrating Israel's rebirth and independence and you're going to have on your calendar. The Jewish holy days and Sabbath is the seventh day, even if many Israelis are secular, still seventh a Sabbath and this is that the cycle of life and other marks of it being a Jewish state Hanukkah being celebrated nationally, and so on Jewish star on the flag. It's a Jewish state. So in order to do that than with the Palestinians have their own state. I was the Gaza something to itself right now so the so-called West Bank Derek Judiciary let the Palestinians have that two state solution now I'm thinking back 30 years ago. 20 years ago that there was less talk about that and many evangelical Christian said no, no, we don't want to divide the land in the messianic used to be don't want to divide the land that's wrong, and Israel should just control everything about how it has to be, millions of Palestinians house.

I can work out so for years now, the Obama administration under the Bush administration. They openly advocated two state solution and Israeli leaders openly said okay with the look of two state solution under Prime Minister Netanyahu there has been a great increase in settlements in Jewish communities being built up into this matter than the Jews living in Gaza anymore, but there's been a great increase.

Several hundred thousand now Jews living in so-called West Bank called according to Palestinians in others it is occupied territory, and there should not be settlements there that was part of what was discussed in the meeting between Pres. Trump and Prime Minister Netanyahu.

But the issue would be this well if if you've got Jews living there now and if you keep having problems with the two state solution because it seems the more rights that you give to the Palestinians, the more authority you give to the Palestinians, the more they want to kill the Jews and and and and push Israel out. Jews get out of Gaza complete pullout of Gaza very traumatic event for the nation.

Jews pull out of Gaza and and who takes over, then come our sense of being elected by the people Hamas stands for the elimination of the Jewish state. Does not technically stand for the slaughter of all Jews worldwide. It does stand for wiping out modern Israel which you may need to kill any Jewish people. So if if you succeed in blowing up men, women and children your hero your martyr or just pushing them out so there is no more Jewish state. So what happens then when the Palestinians have their own state that they can completely govern will become more radical as well in their arguments that say absolutely will and with Israel be able to defend itself with two radical wings on either side and then immediately to the north, Lebanon, Syria and and and has Bilotta ensconced there and funded by Iran and then with ISIS trying to to attack from Egypt and other places. And of course causing problems for each of the fossil all that all that to say that you've got lots of problems and issues with the two state solution will Carolyn Glick influential journalist in Israel heavily involved in Israeli politics as written the book on the one state solution. My mission Jewish friend Attorney Coley of Myers is also suggested one state solution, namely Gaza, that's its own territory that they could do about it does leave it. That's because hopefully there will be less radical leadership from postings in the future, but that's Gaza. That's the way it is basically that Israel says okay there will be one state, one government and everybody will work together and what that means though is you'll have a majority of Jews compared to Palestinians who are mainly Muslim. You have a majority of Jews in this one station.

And as long as you can keep that majority and keep it pretty strong. Then you continue to vote and you will vote in Jewish leadership and an Israeli leadership in that sense and you will continue to have your majority and then this way, what happens is every body every body now works together and this way the Israelis can help raise the last of the Palestinians and give them more rights and have less issues with having walls and fences up and things like that because were going to be one nation under primarily Israeli Jewish leadership and it'll be in the best interest of the Palestinians as they prosper and do well that this can take away some of the terrorist edge, and in this way Israel can also work better. To combat the terrorism and disable what about the calendar. And what about the national anthem and how can you have one state and one flag Palestinians in a have a have an Israeli flag over them is fraught with problems. It's fraught with questions. It's fraught with difficulties, and I for sure don't know how it will all work by Donald Trump. I believe he wants to help the Palestinians. He knows he stands with Israel. We stand with the Jewish people remember his daughter if Anke converted to Judaism. He has a son-in-law whose it traditional Jew or some traditional Jew and that means there their kids his grandkids from Vonnegut and Jarrett are Jewish, and he's been a friend of Israel and other ways and his appointment for the ambassador Israel is is very strong. That also was a one state solution, guy so he certainly wants to stand with Israel but I believe he cares about the Palestinians and like all presidents coming in before their megadeal.

He's a great dealmaker, their megadeal and he said upfront. This can be difficult deals. People tells of the hardest skills to make that's that's the. The short way of saying it but these are now new discussions even go back to talking about one state whether it's viable or not the fact it's on the table is getting some liberal Jews very concerned I got a lot more to talk about thoroughly Jewish. There is a victim `severe calls right here in the line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown get into the line of fire now by calling 866-34-TRUTH here again is Dr. Michael Brown is my I welcome gets assuring that in fact if the show today doubling a flight to San Diego and will be participating an important Israel conference over the weekend doing some other speaking Calvary Chapel there and at a museum as well from itinerary go to asked Dr. Brown.org SK DR Brown.org and you'll see the itinerary right there and gobble and become your way live from San Diego you got questions regarding answers tomorrow from San Diego. Let's go to the phones and will start in Rockville, Maryland Kevin, welcome to want to fire a doctor while I was raised on a farm Jewish family, however, I was adopted about 12 years ago. I know you begin to follow Jesus� I was after couple years.years ago asked a Gentile. I got my biological parents is with Jewish theology in my queue or my Gentile okay some the viewpoint of traditional Judaism. If your mother was Jewish.

Your biological mother, your Jewish or if you convert to Judaism you Jewish, so in their eyes you you did neither your biological mother is not Jewish, and you didn't convert to Judaism, although your race a certain way and adoptive home and the fact that you believe Jesus is the Messiah would then be contrary to traditional Jewish belief.

I would say that you have the benefit of seeing the world a little bit more through Jewish eyes and have a greater sense of solidarity with the Jewish people as born-again as a born-again Gentile, who is now a follower of Jesus the Messiah right track at end out what kind of upbringing did you have for beginning at what age I was adopted when I was a baby. So I think we we started surrogate right II went to talk for a few years all away. Yeah so like many like many American Jews are fairly nominal, fairly secular, that would be a large percentage of American Jews, but still it does give me that understanding growing up Jewish that it's kind of us and them you know you still recognize that your Jewish and the rest of the way isn't, so that's something that you can relate to better and perhaps God can use in your sharing the gospel with the with Jewish people say has spent all these years being raised the thinking I was Jewish and in Saugatuck. It's a unique situation that very few would have, and that therefore it can be a great bridge building a gift between the church and the Jewish people in the Lord can use it in that way, but the ultimate issue is that our spirituality is not found in being Jewish or Gentile or male or female, but our spirituality is found in being in Yeshua, so being in him that's that's the key thing and obviously that's what that's what you come to, which is wonderful.

Thank you Dr. Brown you are very welcome. God bless you Kevin 866337884. Let's go to Deborah in Newark, New Jersey. Welcome to the line of fire okay thank you very much. I have a foreign-policy question appropriate early church birthday.

I want you to opine on our I have at the same time that Prime Minister Netanyahu was holding court in the White House, Pres. comp about how negotiation and future of it so should be proceeding and undersecretary and underreported, but an undersecretary of defense was meeting face-to-face with Prime Minister Abba and I assume that that was about indicating that were not playing favorite peer so I want to know what you think about that that concurrently and undersecretary of defense for thinking about �president plans with entertaining Prime Minister Netanyahu that the first thing I haven't saw the details of that meeting carefully. Although Prime Minister Abbas has reiterated the fact that only two state solution will work. So he's made it clear in the last 24 hours that their position remains the same, but let's read that a few different ways. On the one hand, it's clear that one person is a meeting with the president and a joint press conference for the nation to see in the other has a secret meeting or behind the scenes meeting. So if I'm promised her Abbas II know who's the favorite I know is getting preferential treatment and an who it's important that the president puts in front of the American people and said hey we are working with Israel so I wouldn't look at that as a positive, a farmer, Prime Minister Abbas, I look at that is almost throwing a crumb out. I look at it is positive and that we have been shut out but negative in that clearly premise Netanyahu's favoritism there. The second thing is that there is discussion about the settlements that is going on and trumps position has been in between. It's been in between. Netanyahu witches go ahead full full steam ahead and go ahead, start new settlements and Obama openly condemning these so it's it's been, as I say in between those two and it's a lookout we don't like them. We think their hindrance to peace. And there are even discussions. There's an article here.

Netanyahu and Pentz discuss mechanism for coordination on settlements but look every president that's come in has wanted to craft a deal Bill Clinton push so hard. Jimmy Carter pushed are they all want to be the president that solves this people of even the morning trump don't don't go down this this every manner, because yeah it's it's it's it's a dead-end year. You have all this time to the accident which you have to give it a shot and then to get everyone out back to the table. The difference I would say is that trump is absolutely clear and speaking against radical Islamic terrorism and that's that's the issue that the Palestinians have been weak on and even Prime Minister Abbas's leadership, UT was voted in for.

Tolerance is the typical tyrannical thing of staying on and now Hamas electing a more radical leader on their insults or what to say about it. Beyond that, Deborah. It's it's it's hard to say but it all. I would emphasize is certainly Israel is the number one player here and posting authority. The number two or three or four player and they have to know that but try to work out a solution is in the best interest of everyone there. By all means the viability of it. Yikes. Anna, trying to negotiate this ohmmeter. Thank you yet. I appreciate your call and bring that to the attention of our listeners hate friends. One can encourage you to keep listening on the website.

The line of fire.org or on the ask Dr. Brown half listening because we got some breaking news for you and celebrate. It's the line of fire with your host activist, author, international speaker and theologian Dr. Michael Brown voice of more cultural and spiritual revolution get into the line of fire now by calling 86643 here again is Dr. Michael Brown thank you much for joining us today on the line of fire.

This is Michael Brown.

It is thoroughly Jewish Thursday, but we are taking a break for a moment from our thoroughly Jewish Thursday emphasis, and momentarily. We will be bringing some gas on the air introduce them first. We are bringing on the air with us for some breaking news Kristin Wegner who was a senior counsel and senior vice president of US legal advocacy with the alliance defending freedom in this role she supervises a team of more than 50 attorneys and legal staff, and specialize in constitutional law and focus on religious freedom, sensitive life and marriage and family, along with Christian is Benno Stutzman. She is the sole owner of Orleans flowers and Richland Washington has her entire career served and employed people who identify as homosexual. Despite this, the ACLU and Washington Atty. Gen. lights that she is guilty of unlawful discrimination because she acted consistent with her faith declined to use her creative skills to beautify the same sick ceremony for longtime customer Robert Ingersoll and another man, Kurt free. She's been threatened.this with the loss of her business. Most of her livelihood.

Even her own funds have been threatened. There was a major ruling about this today, so we want to bring on Kristin and Baron now to talk about this talk about this ruling and talk about what is coming next.

So again, in short, Stutzman had a long time. Gait customer who said hey I'm getting married. Can you to the fall arrangement for my wedding took about Hatch's woman in her 70s grandmother took him by the hand and she said hey I can't do this is the hardest thing she ever did, and then they continued to talk as there were longtime friends. He was a longtime customer continue talk to talk about the wedding and who's been walking down the aisle hopes this is someone she served and cared for.

For years, but in conscience as a Christian could not use her creative gifts to to put together fall arrangement for some. She didn't believe in, and for that she was taken to court by the state of Washington and the ACLU has been pushing this case, as alleged discrimination based on sexual orientation so major ruling. Today we go to Kristin and Brownell thanks much for joining us on the line of fire. I've given the background for our listeners and Kristin we just got a short segment here that we can talk a little bit further we come back with what happened in court today witnessing stand.

What's the significance of the ruling when our deeply disappointed with today's court was from the Washington Cyprian court and acquire and eventually Babette Baron now and cannot live out her faith in the marketplace that she will be 14 you have to create artistic expression that violates the content if he wants to maintain her business and even her personal because the retaining area. Her personally as well as her bed so this is not a matter of serving a gay customer. This is a matter of using her creative gifts to participate in a same-sex wedding sermon which you can't do in conscience. On what basis have they gone after her personal assets that led out loud and clear and personal liability and nonpunitive and it is shocking really that wonderful patient therapy and for 10 years. It's not about service to therapist gentlemen for 10 years she considered him a friend and did all kind of arrangement for him, but he couldn't participate in the wedding ceremony at the mouth and what make it that all Americans, all of our right. Take our right to live in Atkinson with our convictions and live in the marketplace and was what was the actual vote had a breakdown in the court with 920 and Watches Remain Ct. in Washington.

In general, is an extremely liberal left the court and any ACLU knew that when I filed a lawsuit with us.

It was a lassie for faceplate highly extraordinary friends. This is chilling listeners around America. This is chilling.

These men come back with Benno Stutzman get her personal reaction and attorney distant Wegner should concern you. The line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown voice of more cultural and spiritual revolution. Here again is Dr. Michael Brown thank you much for joining us.

It is thoroughly Jewish Thursday will use on Israel and Jewish related issues, but your taking a break because of very important national decision that should concern not only followers of Jesus, but everyone cares about our liberties and our freedoms were living in a day where stores are dropping clotheslines from the Ponca tribe because they don't like trump politics where fashion design is a single design nothing from your company more because we don't like their politics and are being celebrated by Americans. Yes, that's the right thing to do. We don't like the trump politics and here you have a godly Christian woman serving gays and lesbians for years employing got gays and lesbians for years, who simply said I cannot use my creative gifts and skills in business to participate in a same-sex quote waiting for that she's being threatened with the loss of everything she has noticed her business, but her personal assets. This again is chilling on the Supreme Court of Washington ruled nine nothing against parallel Stutzman. I'm joined by Darnell and her attorney Kristin Wegner Burnell, you knew that this was a liberal court. Your trust is in the Lord, but still this this must this must be painful to see this ruling really. Clarifying Calder Park. According to government our current to separate me from my my work life and are totally give my personal content. Yet, what were you expecting a better outcome or at least not nine. Nothing or did you know the liberal nature of the court didn't look good. The court was liberal but we also hope they were older Constitution and not violate my right to free speech and expression yeah note Kristin what arguments did you raise and and how with those arguments shot down by the court. While we read First Amendment rights that the very first argument we made that merit Baron Eldon violate the statute statute says that you're not supposed to discriminate against someone because of their sexual orientation and has lots of been used in a way that they were never intended, and Baron Eldon discriminate because of Robert Ingersoll X orientation chasing him for 10 years. She knew he was gay. He knew she was religious and they work together to find he declined an event, a marriage ceremony and that was why he made that efficient fishing violate packet but we also argued that even if the court were to find that he has First Amendment freedoms that have to be protected in a trump anything statute, and knows First Amendment freedoms exist whether or not you're a bit on the Constitution protect her right to free speech, the right of creative professionals to permit Medicaid and produce art that is content with what they want to produce and not against that. Well, and then the free exercise of religion. He has a right to live and work with her conviction and shouldn't be banished from the marketplace mentally because she has beliefs about marriage being between a man and a woman better. Based in her we make this place and what the Bible teaches her that you always get the argument Kristin well what if she said that she wouldn't participate in a wedding because she didn't like Blacks. It was a black couple are an interracial couple in Sydney tolerate that you hear those arguments all the time.

How do you respond I think it's an intellectually dishonest, argumentative shutdown debate and to bully people here compare that education of African-Americans and what they separate for hundreds of years.

I'm cute Baron out loving, kind, conversation and servant of the gentleman for 10 years and it's absurd to create a professional shouldn't be forced by the government to create custom work for a religious ceremony that violates their religious belief and the fact that he is now linking to leave her business potentially by her home, her retirement, her like a baby because she referred a longtime customer and it alarm all of that because all of our freedoms are in jeopardy if they can do something like that Baron out right and you would think okay you got an older woman, you've got a grandmother you got some of that serve the gay and lesbian community for years you're not talking about some right wing extremist Internet radical or something stirring up trouble. That again is what makes this all the more chilling and this is this is saying you do not have the right to practice your religion if you going to do it outside your church building and Baron out what happened with you and Robert Ingersoll. The, the gentleman involved with this when you told him no and you said that was the hardest thing you do. You took him by the hand. You told me you couldn't do it happen immediately after that they get angry through the storm out of the store. What happened angry at all.

And we talked about his mom walking down the aisle and how we got engaged and we chitchatted while he asked me if I recommend another forest might get three returning to John and we hugged each other and Rob left. So how does it then turn into a lawsuit. His partner Kurt in on Facebook that evening back in. I have the right to bleed when I get that I hurt your feelings and it went viral chimeric just extraordinary.

So it wasn't even there initiative for Robert Ingersoll's initiative to hurt you, how they feel. Now how does Robert Ingersoll feel if if you can comment on that. Now that there is this attack on you, even on your personal assets retirement. How does he feel about that. I don't know how I felt about my start date and return it for another 10 years.

I really can and we worked well together. Yeah. And what an extraordinary hard to have not been innocent anger toward since a Christian where things go from here and what would you like to say to all Christians listening while we will appeal the case. Katie United States to print court and frankly I would say if not now, when I don't think that prior freedoms now Baron out not the only person in a nation at think print a lot with a lot but there are many Christians that were being faced with the choice of whether we have the right to peacefully live and operate according tribally.

If we don't take expand organelle is not just our religious freedom that many anti-civil liberties QB can they go together. Civil liberties travel together. So I would encourage all of us. We need to be speaking in our communities writing on op Ed and and really learning about these issues and talking with our neighbors about why religious freedom is important and I'd encourage them to expand with Barry now without the need to support the executive order that Pres. Trump is considering right now on religious freedom and let the White House now because Pres. Trump said that religious freedom and protecting it would be his first priority, we need to hold onto that and we need a good night On the court's folks want to stand with Barry now can they do it to the ADF website. What's the best way to return to their website and combat freedom balloon.com and that will get them on the information that they need.

Let see them bloom.calm and you know the thing that strikes me in all of this is the power of social media.

Something was just posted on Facebook and went viral. If Christians would just use social media to get their views out and take stands and and write letters to editors and op Ed's and talk about these issues with their kids in the schools we can make a massive difference doing that for some reason we just thought this is a storm is going to pass in the South case the banner last question for you. Your life has been interrupted in a way you never would've imagined you're in your 70s.

Your grandmother this is the time of life that you enjoy your business is much as you want to and you enjoy your family and your grandkids and certainly not the time that you look for a big fight if you could do this over which you have done something differently. Would you say hey, why have a fight I I I want to avoid this is going to be too costly song to go ahead and make the full arrangement for these two men do differently if you do it over arching word word I can change my mind� I you did surprise me and saying that just want to give you the opportunity to hey were standing with you.

I plan to write another article on this to do my best to get the word out or something struck me some years ago when I saw it.

For example, a black deaf woman Gallaudet University in in DC considered the leading school for the deaf and she was a beloved staff member there for years and when she simply and she headed up diversity department.

There was another was sexual issues. So here you've got a woman, you got African-American mom got it deaf woman and when she simply signed a petition with her husband in Maryland at a church service and please let us vote on redefining marriage. We don't want elected officials to decide we want a vote on it. When word got out that she had done that when a lesbian professor saw that her name was listed one gay newspaper published it that got to the school he got to the president and she was relieved of her duties. It was months before she was brought back after an outcry, and I thought if someone like that isn't it can become the bad person in this and she can be bully. What if we come to the same with you Baron Olive if you can be bully the people stand with the boys what's happening to our nation hey there more with you than against above and beyond that God is with you, we believe to see these things turn around and you on the front lines. Thank you for taking the stance that you have a clear error on the line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown. Your voice is more cultural and spiritual revolution there again is Dr. Michael Brown. Thanks for minor key Jewish music and it can be flex a lot of the pain of Jewish history, but it's appropriate to play that music right after hearing that report from Barrow Stutzman and her attorney Kristin Wegner a real wake-up call to believers across America. And yes, all the more. Does our president need to sign that Executive Order standing for religious freedom. This is Michael Brown.

It is thoroughly Jewish Thursday Howard I didn't know that you know I don't know how I didn't know that because it's a pretty big issue is a pretty significant thing that I didn't know that our president is a member of the WW E Hall of Fame. Yeah the big wrestling organization know I I didn't know that I nearly did something was for the wrestlemania with with Vince McMahon or some such thing.

But anyway I didn't know that and you only in America.

Okay how about this. Thomas selects new radical leader in Gaza yes yes and more is been elected to lead Hamas in the Gaza Strip after his maternal elections were held for the organizations institutional leadership positions soon. Why was my most senior officials released by Israel in the Guillot Shelley dealer which hundreds of terrorists, political prisoners released in exchange for the return of captured IDF soldiers. The lead is about reputation as being among the most radical and Hamas calling since his release for further kidnappings of IDF soldiers and is thought of as the link between the military and political wing of the terror organization with his ascent to power smart will take the reins to rule the strip from Khalid Marchal so I mean what you say Marie father roots seven news we warned you this would happen.

Ron Carmen, the father of Tulkarm and was murdered in 2003 by suicide bomber.

The Boston Haifa spoke with media sources about the appointment of Nikki Seymour to come off leadership or Yahoo typo there. So again, Sue Moore was released as a result of the silly deal in October 2011.

He had been given for life sentences for murdering Palestinian policeman and was also involved in the capture and murder of IDF soldier nausea Mossman in 1994 we fought against the release of terrorism warned that more will join the ranks, the bereaved and now another graduate of Israeli jails is becoming a leader of Hamas.

Carmen said it hurts to say we told you so every time but we thought that there were other ways to get God shall lead back to Israel. Carmen pointed out the heavy price.

The terror victims pay in the number of days he set a March 3 will be 14 years install was murdered along with 17 others.

Imagine what it's like to hold a memorial service and have to coordinate with so many other debris families all going to the gravesite in each coordinate among ourselves memorial service times that they don't overlap. It's a painful reality which unfortunately is a lot of many terror victims in the country and hear the father's watching as the man sentenced to life in prison for his participation in the murder of his son is not only released from is really killing 2011, but but becomes a major leader in Hamas. Here's another interesting story.

So Marie Le Pen, the far right front National party, said that if she is elected holding dual French and Israeli citizenship. People holding dual French is ready so she would have to give up one of their nationalities. The remember the front National party in France. Le Pen's leaving that this is a very strong populist nationalist party. And of course you have the rise of populism, nationalism in America and Europe is a pushback against what many feel is the loss of our culture that threatening of our culture by extremists and radicals from other countries. Germany's feeling it sweetens feeling it Hollins feeling it. Other countries are feeling it. France is feeling it and this would be in keeping with the nationalist you say, but there against radical Islam true in that sense it's good for the Jewish people on the other hand an extreme nationalism is not good for the Jewish people unless the Jewish people are more French than Jewish. The F course that didn't help the German Jews, many of whom are more German than Jewish, but the Nazis still sought to wipe them out so Le Pen made the remark during an interview with French media sources last week with the candidate said that she would not allow French citizens to hold dual citizenship in non-European countries and in that Israel is not a European country. The pen noted that such a policy would not be about Jews for brother out French Israelis to whom I asked to choose their national their nationality former MK Schmoll, Plato, Sharon reported the conversations with Jews in France reveal that should Le Pen be elected to the high office they will be France. Sharon noted that the pen families been immersed in French politics for 50 years.

The rainfall is nothing but a fascist. None of it is not like Jews but hates Jews to give them Marie Le Pen taking over by the ideology from her father. According contrast to her father. The daughter maintains a policy of smiles and announces that she is nothing infuse, but in reality conducts a policy that emanates from her father's worldview, there is 600,000 Jews in France and many of them are well situated. If she wins, I can guarantee that within a year 300,000 of them will be here that would be an precedent that would be unprecedented, but think of the irony of this someone comes into power can push back and will pushback against radical Islam and against Islamic takeover of areas of France and it like I can imagine that being peaceful. I cannot imagine that being peaceful. Think of the irony of the very ones who are terrorizing Jews and have attacked rabbis, children of rabbis and other Jews in France for a number of years now frightened rise in anti-Semitic events of the special sport that we pushed back its Muslim radicals that also pushback against Israelis or dual citizenship Jews saying choose you.

The French are Israeli but you can't be a dual citizen that is not a surprise from an extreme nationalistic movement, but it's something to keep your eye on Sable whom we pray for to be elected pray for God's will pray God your will be done. God your kingdom come to France and above all the people of France will move beyond their secularism and move beyond their nominal Catholic faith and move into a true living relationship with God through Jesus since the days of the French Revolution. There has been a certain stance in France and hostility to religion in France and secularism and that stronghold has not yet been broken in any major way in the nation me to be a spiritual breakthrough in France hey friends, I want to encourage you strongly to partner with us to reach the lost sheep of the house of Israel we get such encouraging news from Jewish people who were touched by our materials and were coming to faith sure there's so much more. We want to do need your help to do it. Go to the line of fire today. Click on donate become a partner.

Together, we can reach the lost sheep of the house of Israel on bottom line today. A delay changed it gospel. Still, you first. Is there something new happening in the relationship between Israel and the United States. What do we make out of the first meeting between Donald Trump and Benjamin Netanyahu stage for the line of fire with your host activist, author, international speaker and theologian Dr. Michael Brown your voice of moral cultural and spiritual revolution Michael Brown is the director of the coalition of conscience and president of fire school of ministry get into the line of fire now by calling 866-34-TRUTH.

That's 866-34-TRUTH here again is Dr. Michael Brown thank you for being part of our thoroughly Jewish Thursday broadcast. This is Michael Brown and as I'm sitting here thinking only do we have a great Israel conference coming up in San Diego this weekend. I fly out right after radio today to California and then to the conference before flying back on Monday but a week from Saturday. I leave for Israel that is right leave for Israel. Can't wait to get there leading the tour will have on low 50 something people with us. It it should be a special time and that means I'll become your way live for Mrs. not this week but next week after that, we live from Israel of done that a couple times before. It's always a joy.

It's always a highlight. It's nighttime in Israel when there what I think you will be between nine and 11 at night. Something like that rather than to do for the afternoon Eastern standard Time so really looking forward to the trip and please pray we've got some major Jewish ministry coming in March. Major major Jewish ministry will be doing in March some special things will be recording video and TV and also doing a major debate that you be able to watch online on March 23 will tell you more about that as we get closer, but pray W's us to reach Jewish people with the good news of Jesus the Messiah right here is how you ask your Jewish lid question today 866-34-TRUTH 866-348-7884 that is the number to call what I've got a question for you. And the answer may surprise you. Which religious group is the most popular in America when when people were asked respondents. Let's see scale of one, 200 so you have warmer feelings. That's higher, colder feelings.

That's lower where we would you rank different groups, Catholics, Muslims, Protestants, Buddhists, where where would you put them see a ready for this Jews were number one test trust just me. This is nothing that Jewish popular Jewish community of America can can pat themselves on the bag could say all great will will just relax because anti-Semitism is always reality. According to the survey by the pew research Center released yesterday.

Americans generally express more positive feelings toward various religious groups than they did three years ago that surprises me.

That's not a surprise, as they did the first time the survey was taken 2014 Jews top. The survey in which respondents vanquish very rigorous religious groups on the feelings the monitor scale of 1 to 101 is the coldest 100. The warmest 50 means that neither positive nor negative feelings Jews were wrecked at 67�, up from 63 in 2014 server followed by Catholics at 66, up from 62 mainline Protestants and 65 evangelical Christian stated 61� and given all the media hostility towards evangelical Christians, even the hostility towards Catholicism in the and in the movies and things like that is interesting. Catholics are at 66 evangelical Christian 61 Buddhists rose from 60% to 6453 Hindus increased to 58 from 50 Mormons move to 54 from 48 and atheist right at 50� for 41, and Muslims were at 48, up from 40 it's it's almost like everybody's just warmer first religious truth enters atheist figured out, and among those 18 to 29.

They gave their highest ranking Buddhists interesting will break that her gives the line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown into the line of fire now by calling 866-34-TRUTH here again is Dr. Michael Brown on thoroughly Jewish Thursday. Thank you, my friend Paul eating us and in the segment for every Jewish lady question number to call 866-34-TRUTH 866-34-TRUTH 784 all right a few things that are different in terms of Prime Minister Netanyahu's reading meeting with Pres. Trump compared to his meetings with Pres. Obama. There was the infamous meeting where Pres. Obama walked out on Prime Minister Netanyahu left him alone.

He went to have dinner with his family made that was an extraordinary snob. There was the incident of premise and Netanyahu having to leave basically through the back door, rather than through the front door. Another obvious snob. That's at least how it was perceived by many. So the positive nature of this meeting and the fact that it happened within one month of prison trumping inaugurated that's really positive that certainly a good thing.

The fact that Pres. Trump said that Iran will never get a nuclear bomb. He obviously strongly opposes the deal with Iran, but he is not ripped it up yet these putting more sanctions on Iran. We we will see where that goes. But we know this great hostility right now between America and Iran.

And when it comes to the settlements rather than absolutely saying do not do not proceed with anymore settlements the official word is that he was told to slow them down a little soul you put a hold on them.

So again, prison trumpets look, I don't like the settlements. I don't think they're helping in the peace process but is not condemned Israel for them the exact quote that he was told to quote hold back on settlements for a little bit and premise. Netanyahu met with VP Pentz to discuss quote the establishment of a mechanism on the issue as reported by Raffaella RN on the times of Israel.com.

They also brought up the issue of Jonathan Pollard for American spy served nearly 20 years in prison on charges of spying Israel than normal that the general consensus on that was. He was slammed with a horrifically unfair punishment by Caspar Weinberger, who basically had it in for him and Israel. He has since been released from prison, but is not allowed to visit Israel. That's an issue that came up as well and according to reports, VP Pentz said that they will reconsider the issue and that the Israeli ambassador to US Ron Dermer would take on this issue this question as far as moving the embassy to Jerusalem. We are told, Donald Trump says that he is evaluating it while know if that's good or bad. I thought he said categorically that it would be moved.

I thought he said categorically that it would happen and that what scared a lot of political pundits even one forget the name but one gentleman I quoted those on CNN said like every president talks about every candidate talks about no sexy good do it to do would be disastrous. Well Donald Trump said it's going to happen is going to do it and the many important appointed or nominated to be invested. Israel is strongly in favor of it as well. To me this would be a a major compromise.

A major capitulation, a major backing down a major betrayal. If Pres. Trump does not in fact go ahead and move the embassy to juice the member talking West Jerusalem, which is acknowledged, except by the most radical Muslims and others oppose Israel. That is, this part of Israel proper whispers and the battles over East Jerusalem, 866-34-TRUTH. So overall it would seem positive there meeting would seem positive but much to be done yet to see where this will really fall out.

What will really happen 866-34-TRUTH for your Jewish related questions go to Todd in Cedar Grove North Carolina. Thanks for calling the line of fire out by Dr. Brown greatly in my daily Bible reading within the book of Leviticus and I will have intrigued about this particular deal when it came to the altering that that the Lord commanded that honey should not be offered with the already been outlawed and while that will what it was the way to do.

It's one of those things.

I had read but never really thought about. But as I'm holding in my hands. The NIV cultural backgrounds study Bible it says this to Leviticus 211 you are not to burn any yeast or honey your offerings. The reason for excluding yeast from the altar was mostly that leavening involves a kind of decay to fermentation along the same lines, honey was likely syrup from fruit, not the byproduct of bees was banned from the altar because of its susceptibility to fermentation fermentation was associated with death and therefore excluded so that is from Old Testament ancient recent scholar John Walton that would be the reason for not burning yeast or honey because it contributed to fermentation which was associated with decay, and therefore death rather than life and that appropriate for the altar obviously offers a place of death, and that sacrifices are being offered but it was also a place of an offering to God and this would be somehow considered to be contrary to that principle.

Now I can't say that is 100% true for churches were not here to ask God or Moses directly in that sense but it does make good sense, operated underground like very much, you bet right. Todd's always got interesting questions when he calls.

And remember, if you got a Jewish related question.

He related question question about Jewish history, tradition rich literature question about Jesus being the Jewish Messiah, by all means give us a call 866-348-7884 it just a question of being asked here is the host country guest country determine where embassy should be placed. It's the home country's always been the home country. In other words, who chose Washington DC we get while I think the capital should be in New York City. I think capital should be in Houston, Texas.

I think capital should be Los Angeles real care matter what you think. This is where couples every nation in the world. They tell you what their capital city is every nation without exception, and all the embassies are there that you can drive through DC and there is a place colloquial called, colloquially, colloquially, commonly, that commonly commonly called embassy row.

You drive down there and you see embassy after embassy from all of these different countries it's it's really quite a place to be in and so many people from around the world that are there so that is that the host country says this it is so Jerusalem capital of Israel through almost all of Israel's history very quickly. This was voted into law. So where the embassies Tel Aviv wife construes them stew controversial. That's an awful shame. That's an awful shame, but it confirms to us what we've always known spiritual that there is a great battle over Jerusalem that there is a great battle over Jewish control Jerusalem. Many put you like this, Jesus will not return until the Jewish Jerusalem welcomes him back see that from the implications of Matthew 2337 to 39. As we've often explained at the end of his pronouncing woes seven woes on religious hypocrites religious leaders who are hypocrites. He then says Jerusalem Jerusalem pronounces for Jerusalem.

How I long to gather your children together as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you are not willing or not willing, behold, your house is left to you desolate Presidio you will not see me again until you say Barack Obama shame of God. Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord. Alright, so, so, what is being said, there is very very simple. It is a wall is a judgment oracle.

It is you she was speaking prophetically about the coming devastation of Jerusalem and of course it happen after the next generation with the Romans, destroying Jerusalem and the cost of hundreds of thousands of Jewish lives of great suffering for the nation. The temple was destroyed and never been rebuilt. To this day the Messiah also said you will not see me again until telling us that when the Jewish people of Jerusalem and the Jewish leadership of Jerusalem representing the nation back in the Messiah back call for him to come recognize him for who he is. Psalm 118 Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord. We welcome the one coming in the name of the Lord then became used as words to welcome the Messiah as we see it in the Gospels were Jesus makes his triumphant entry. Jerusalem is going have to say that again so that means there has to be Jewish Jerusalem and has to welcome back the Messiah.

So first goal wipe out the Jewish people through the devil wipe them out. You can't do that. Keep them out of Jerusalem can't do that. Keep away from Jesus see this threefold conspiracy and how the enemies works so assiduously added. Of course we know that history will go through a great metamorphosis is God's purposes on the earth which include turning Jesus the Messiah on file in the line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown get into the minor fire now by calling 866-34-TRUTH dear again is Dr. Michael Brown is thanks so much for joining us on the broadcast today we want to take a look at Canada right now we want to take a look at something happening with Islam in Canada there was a horrific shooting in a mosque in Qu�bec course, the nation of Canada looking at that with great concern and was it inspired by hate speech against Muslim was inspired by hostility towards Muslims so there is a bill motion 103 that has been looked at that would ban Islamic phobia that would ban criticism of Islam.

When I was just in Canada, Christians presented to me like that.

This will ban criticism of Islam. What we to make of this. Well, by all means, if there are people who are inciting violent acts against any group, be they atheists, be they Muslims, be they Hindus, be they Christians Beta whoever they are. If if you are inciting violence. If you are saying hey go out and kill these people go out and rape these people go out and maim these people got burned down their house who you are culture what group you're going after.

You should be shut down for that we do not have freedom to provoke people to break the law and commit all kinds of violent acts.

There should be some repercussions for that.

But to say what banquet Islamic phobia. What does that mean what what is Islam a phobia. Does that mean that if I get up and warn against ISIS that I'm an Islamic phobia.

Does that mean if I said that Hamas is a terrorist group for the Muslim brotherhood is a terrorist group that there from an Islamic fold.

Does that mean that if I say that these radical expressions of law of Islam do actually have a precedent with Islamic history and with the life of Mohammed himself was first the spiritual leader than a political leader than a military leader is that Islamic phobia. If I say that is it Islamic phobia. If I say that there are passages in the Quran that historically and up to this day have been interpreted to allow Muslims to commit violent acts against those that they call infidels is that Islamic phobia is it Islamic phobia for me to say that I don't believe that the angel Gabriel gave revelation from God to Mohammed that I believe that the diversion of the Bible that we find of the Quran is twisted and perverted and changed and that the Bible we have is the real Bible.

The real word of God is that Islamic phobic if I don't believe that Mohammed was a prophet of God, and I say so look, I don't believe that from our Christian pulpits, we should spend most of our time denouncing Mohammed and denouncing the Quran. If you want to win a Muslim you want to win them by building relationship with them and by pointing them to the real Jesus, not by attacking Mohammed and attacking the Quran when discussions come up with apologetic come up. You should be ready to have your answers but you better believe the Canadian should have the freedom to criticize Islam, just like other Canadians have the freedom to criticize Christianity, and in Christians should have the freedom to Chris criticize atheism. Just like atheists having the freedom to to criticize Christianity and Muslim should have the freedom to criticize Christianity and Christian should have the freedom to criticize Hinduism and Hinduism gravity. Everyone should have the freedom to say here's where we take issue Jews should have the freedom to say that the Jewish followers of Jesus.

We believe that that you're guilty of idolatry. And we should have the freedom to tell them we believe your lost without the Messiah, and end when you have a bill like this.

I understand the intent of it and I stand against those who would promote and provoke hostility violent acts against Muslims or any other group.

I deplore that and and denounce it but this bill is absolutely chilling.

This bill is not something positive. This bill is in effect an attack on free speech and I can assure you that it will be used by Muslim radicals to help put forward an ideology that is more and more extreme because you will not have the ability to push back so much I can assure you that this will ultimately hurt Canada more than help Canada all right wanted to get that out want to say those words.

And with that, as it is thoroughly Jewish Thursday over me just get back to my proper screen here. What is this a computer not cooperating properly. All right, hang on, hang on, here we go back to the phones in Charleston, South Carolina. Luke welcome to the line of fire around will thank you sir. It was reported so her luggage about the Holy Spirit being poured out the cost of the Holy Spirit and not report out on believers in the Old Testament. Prior to that I met Michael ostensibly left the king's profits. Lost about the Holy Spirit and I'm thinking like the righteous remnant all through the Old Testament over the righteous of the spirit that they are working on the spirited order by works of the flesh of another works.

The flesh can bring righteousness, so also you could have clarified the formula when a student was bruised in the Old Testament, but when Jesus came, reported out in greater abundance and more magnification.

No extra coming on people and believers in the New Testament, having the ability to the spirited record shortly feeling and and things like that and I guess a secondary? That would be indwelt. The indwelling of the spirit versus spirit coming on you to allow you to do. Actually, such as helium and things like that so you could put great.

Yeah it's it's certainly in part a matter of degree, but let's remember that in John seven it says it quite explicitly there that when Jesus spoke about living waters and things like that that he was speaking of the spirit who had not yet been given because he was not yet glorified.

So something distinct does happen and that's what he breeze on his disciples at the end of John's Gospel and says receive the spirit. So first, the widespread nature of the outpouring that had not yet happened.

All right, that had not yet taken place on this level and that's why Moses in Numbers 11 wishes that all the Lord's people were prophets and that the Lord would give the spirit to all of them in the New Testament. Now the spirit is given to all in a unique way. And yes, there were gifts and manifestations and miracles beyond what would've been seen before, just happening through quote ordinary people.

This is the fulfillment of Joel's prophecy of sons and daughters prophesying and servants prophesying the things like that so that's one in terms of degree and widespread nature. Secondly, having the witness of the Spirit being indwelt by the Spirit.

Even though the spirit convicted believers in the Old Testament and dealt with them Luke. We don't have evidence that they were indwelt by the Spirit.

The way that we are, or that they have the assurance of forgiveness the way we do because of what the Spirit has done.

The law was perfect and given by God to reveal his righteousness to Israel to show them the right way to go, which therefore led to them realizing they couldn't do it.

So in that sense. Romans three the lost shots every mouth before God and shuts people up to needing the righteousness of God that comes by faith in Jesus. So that's another dimension that's different. The new life that we have in the Messiah, the way that we enjoy it and then lastly the righteousness that believers have was by trusting in God seeking to obey his commandments.

So is that with the help of the Spirit would have the same he could do it on her own. That being said, they did not enjoy what we enjoy this side of the cross all right at a time, but thank you sir.

It's the line of fire with your host activist, author, international speaker and theologian Dr. Michael Brown voice of more cultural and spiritual revolution get into the line of fire now by calling 8664 through here again is Dr. Michael Brown on July voice of Paul Wilbur again dear friend Cindy Jewish song leader Donald Trump's exact words yesterday speaking to Prime Minister Netanyahu with this visit the United States again reaffirms our on breakable bond with our cherished ally Israel security challenges faced by Israel are enormous including the threat of Iran's nuclear ambitions which have talked a lot about one of the worst deals of ever seeing as the Iran deal of the smoke is that so Trump my administration is ready impose new sanctions on Iran I'll do more to prevent Iran from ever developing. I mean ever a nuclear weapon well. We talked earlier in the broadcast about the implications of the visit. Still a lot that is too early to see but positive steps in terms of reaffirming what had been a shakier relationship under Pres. Obama. During the time of Benjamin Netanyahu. It is thoroughly Jewish Thursday, which means you get to ask your Jewish related questions 866-34-TRUTH 866-34-TRUTH 87884 by the way, if you're anywhere in the San Diego area.

Join me tomorrow and Saturday of the ministry in San Diego than doing live radio from San Diego going tomorrow but it's a major Israel conference on speaking n-gram lots Ray comfort Ron Cantor, atoll and bar errors sorry from Israel will all be there should be a very very special conference with a still time to get it out and register in San Diego so go to my website and instructor Brown.org for the itinerary to find out more. 8663 freight 7884. Get Hebrew question. If you've got a question Jewish beliefs and practices. If you got a question about Jesus being the Jewish Messiah, by all means give me a call I'll before I go to the phones I read a story that was a very very painful story to read and it was about a Hasidic rabbi, Hasidic rabbi, who has since become a transgender woman and is taking classes at Columbia University, I believe he says he's happier than it's ever been before. And you say wise.

It said while said because God did make him a man. Perhaps if you got some help along the way.

Perhaps if you got some wise counsel along the way, he might have found that he could've remained married to his wife and he could have raised his son, the son, they had together as dad and not mama and reading the story you know any time you let her wife what her life, her was his wife her wife I was reading the story at times. At the who is woo hoo which one is which he she couldn't even tell what was going on because on the one hand of the. The writer was always very liberal wants to speak about this mail. Hasidic rabbi as a woman the whole way she she she she she makes reference to her male private parts and things like that.

Think sons are lining up your so this individual to send this individual not to be derogatory, just don't want to mention the name and control negative public publicity towards us. Individualism of speaking positive terms and again my heart is that God would bless him and that he would find absolute homeless not just as a man, but as a man who knows that Jesus is the Messiah. It's another more radical thing to factoring here but but all that to say this when you see this happening Hasidic rabbi. Now the first one form accosted to say that transgender demand for speaking in things like this play every year than anyone's exchange rate God hold them less than internal and external harm. I will be right back her by the Expo line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown voice of more cultural and spiritual revolution. Here again is Dr. Michael Brown looking to thoroughly Thursday 866-34-TRUTH 784 with your Jewish related call in a moment I want to look at this month of this week's Torah portion that will be read in synagogues on Saturday Shabbat, which would be February 18. It is power shot neutral, which is almost halfway through the book of Exodus neutral being Jethro yes Jethro so the portion that deals with some key aspects of Jethro's input into the life of Moses, so will will talk about that in a moment, 866-34-TRUTH 7884 and the. The accompanying passage that's read in synagogues. If you are a Ashkenazi, which is the Eastern European tradition you be reading from Isaiah 6176 and Isaiah 9596 about the first time of King size death is encountering him and then the birth of the messianic King if you're Sephardi, which is Middle Eastern northern African tradition that would be just Isaiah 613 13 that you would be reading is the accompanying passage but but it's what will come to that will come back to the Torah portion in a moment, let's go to the Bronx with Trevor.

Welcome to the line of fire hello good afternoon Dr. Brown good afternoon, yes I was working out my lab and I was listening to the radio industry and suddenly my light delete undo WMC at Caremark and went off. I got up at the clock and I looked at interactive time and I got your show was on, so I think it was a heavy load is giving me to give Jacob not to give Jacob Dr. just listen to what you heard talking about and I did and then to Gentile man who was adopted in aquatic adapter Jewish parents. He came on and asked you know how short should justify himself as a Jew are bent on and right away I I thought about little money.

Eight elements to brush pretty eccentric tonight� Been meditating on recently in their writing down something and I got some quality anywhere. Romans eight elements to 20th and 29 says he's not there to which is want I will gladly neither circumcision or quiet in the fresh what he is up to which it but high on site to keep legal hits are yes burst winter nicer either jewel which is 1 o'clock okay but which is what all quietly circumcision is� In the spirit are not in the letter, or spray it is not of men but of God and what I would've thought about my.genetically Gentile, but spirituality either jewel according to low mileage tool verse eight and nine which I just read what we have now gently Jewish young Trinity Jews and Gentiles and Jasper JoJo spiritual jewelers are generated Jews to accept Jesus Christ. I say that because particularly circumcising hot and Gentiles also and I just wanted to share that with you yeah Trevor, I appreciate that and that is how many read Romans 220 and 29 that, although throughout his letter. When Paul refers to Jesus is talking about what we refer to as genetic Jesus because he starts the third chapter, saying learn what advantages there and being a Jew meeting a genetic Jew but the point is he's coming against Jewish pride that we say will look I'm circumcised and and he's in the circumcision God really looks for is the circumcision of the heart, and that's what makes someone a Jew in that sense and got site now Trevor someone read it that pulsing between two Jews, who's the real Jew, the one who said you only outwardly the one who should you inwardly and outwardly, but certainly many of you read it the way you're reading it, sir. And that your answer could have been valid to say yes. Genetically you are Gentile your Gentile follow Jesus, but raised her for years by adoptive Jewish parents. However, you can relate to God spiritually said you and I I do accept that as as a potential reading of Romans 228, 29, sir.

Thank you for calling and listening. Much appreciated. 866-348-7884 and learned to say this, I have although I believe it's a dangerous concept for the church to say we are spiritual Israel, because what it normally amounts to is the displacing of the Jewish people for God's purposes, which is absent not with Trevor saying that it would it would mean that the church is taken over the promises and they no longer belong to Israel, but certainly that is not the case and that is one application of the text, but I have met many lovers of Israel Gentile. It was a visceral Christians who said with a smile. I'm a spiritual Jew and I understand exactly what they mean in terms of circumcised in heart before God. 866-348-7884.

Let's go to Winston-Salem North Carolina.

William welcome to want to fire you. Thank you Dr. Brown. You may have been asked before, and I don't know but I wanted to ask you. There is no longer simple sacrifice Laura anyway for the Jewish people to atone for spam for those who do not believe that Jesus is the fire and they how do they deal with what what they do to feel that they make it home. Your average American Jews is not really religious and they would not be thinking so much about dealing with sin as much is trying to lead a life they thought was a good life and make the world a better place dislike about a lot of other well-meaning people but a religious Jew but have a very clear answer, they would say while we pray daily for the rebuilding of the temple and this is a commandment that we desire to be able to keep that we can keep right now.

We believe that the primary way that God forgives our sins is repentance. They would say that repentance was always the essential ingredient and that that's why God forgave the people when they prayed when they ask God for patents when they were in exile would God directed them to do was to turn to God in repentance. And that's primary and the sacrifices are secondary. Now I would say they're both two sides of the same coin that one without the other. Repentance without atonement or atonement without repentance that in either case, that that leaves you missing half of what you need. In other words, Jesus dying on the cross for us does us no good unless we turn to God in repentance and faith.

On the flipside, you can say God I'm sorry and try to turn away from your sins, but there needs to be payment for those sins so that atonement were lacking traditional Jew would say that that repentance is the primary way that God forgives and that we may incur some suffering in this world as a punishment for a similar, the Jewish people going into exile or some going to jail for committing a crime, so we may suffer some in this world and then we do good deeds we we pray and we repent and that's how we receive forgiveness that would be the traditional Jewish answer, of course, we would say with all sincerity, you're missing out on the mercy of God expressed to the Messiah, and without his atonement, you're still in your sins and we grieve over that, but that's the reality. Thank you thank you you're very welcome William 866-34-TRUTH 784 before I go back to the phone so this week's Torah portion Exodus 18 one to Exodus 2023 is a significant Torah portion and in it and it's it points to first Jethro counseling Moses about raising up those that can lead Israel so that all the issues are not coming to him the nexus.

19. The preparation for God speaking on Mount Sinai and then God speak on Mount Sinai in the 10 Commandments and the Israelites think the good die of God continues to speak super intense powerful passage in an important one and that it has God's voice speaking from Sinai.

So chapter 18 verse one of Exodus chapter 20 verse 23. What's fascinating though is the reading in the Sephardic synagogue so those of Middle Eastern origin primary North African Middle Eastern. They just read as a supplemental passage, Isaiah 612 13 so this is Isaiah encountering the Lord high lifted up in his temple why they read that because the Israelites encountered the Lord on Sinai in his fire in his Majesty, but in the Ashkenazi synagogues.

They continue reading into the seventh chapter through verse six, so this is godless King because being confronted by the prophet Isaiah, and the threat of these other foreign nations to come in northern Israel and around Syria are going to attack Judah and displace the Davidic king there. So in that context it continues with Isaiah 956 about triumph versus is ultimately a messianic task seems like some reason after all the stuff got into the seventh chapter of this attack on the Davidic K and positive know is interested in the line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown get into the line of fire now by calling 866-34-TRUTH here again is Dr. Michael Brown. No, it is clearly Jewish Thursday. The plaintive cries of traditional Jews pray that God would give them with their souls long for and surprise them with the revelation of the Messiah.

Just one quick item, then back to the phones so joint White House news press conference with Prime Minister Netanyahu yesterday, an Israeli reporter noted the recent spike in anti-Semitism the US and S company had to say to Jesus. He trumps administration administration fanning xenophobia. This is as reported on religious religion, new services by Lauren Marco and this was his answer very honored by the victory that we had 306 electoral college votes were not supposed to crack 220 there is tremendous enthusiasm out there city bring peace to nation stop crime hopefully heal the divisions in the country will do everything within our power to stop long seeming racism in every other thing that's going on is letter bad things that have taken place over long period of time. As far as people Jewish people so many friends of God who happens to be here right now. Come continue gesturing towards Jewish dirty funky trumpet and promised a different United States you can see a lot of love. So there are Jewish leaders, Jewish groups who were dismayed by the at what kind of answer is that, but that's that's what you expect for jobsite hey there a lot of people that like me and a lot of people for me and you bring unity and hate of anything but anti-Jewish. I got friends and family are Jewish so that be a very typical Donald Trump answer in his mind. He did answer the question. I think 866-34-TRUTH for truth.

Let's go to Houston, Texas. Marla walking to the line of fire or dark brown or especially Mario Mario know what okay here's the here's the deal. I'm looking at this and just just little background here.

I have two monitors on on my desk here and there sunk back one of them. I have all the calls calling and the other I have all of the news and other things that I'm looking at, but when we do videos all the time and in the costly shooting videos during my radio show. These monitors have to be pushed back because of which every so often I can have a hard time seeing is an L on so I was try to figure out is this Maria is Marlowe's Marla is Mario CLI at least at least in on looking at the same screen in your used cell Mario welcome, Sir, to the line of fire by night. My apologies lowers author wanting to ask it well. I'm hoping to learn more about the crisis of the fabric of the Bible wanted to know if written any books on the subject, or if you could recommend some good books surely will this the book that I've written that would be of most interest to you is called the real kosher Jesus the real kosher Jesus and it will give you insight into the Jewishness of Jesus in ways perhaps that you haven't seen or known before.

Also give me insight into how different Jews have lifted Jesus in recent centuries and then show you the genius of what Paul did in terms of recognizing that the messianic era had begun and that was a time when Gentiles would serve the God of Israel, together with Jews without becoming Jews, and he saw the error had already broken in, and therefore that time of coming together as one was now rather than later.

And then we open up seven secrets of the real Messiah to open up Jewish eyes to Jesus being the Messiah. And then there are other books that we do reference that are also relevant in terms of the Jewishness of Jesus there a lot of endnotes in the back of the book so that would be a good place to start and you can also go to the real Messiah website. Real Messiah.com is my Jewish website. You can go there and there are videos there called think it through and you can watch some of them right talk about his Christianity, Jewish sure or Jesus is fulfillment of the Old Testament Hebrew Scriptures things like that you'll find most valuable.

So the book the real kosher. Jesus is the one I've written that would most touch on this and then the videos that we have on the real Messiah website you'll find very helpful as well. Thank you so very much dark you're very welcome. Glad to help.

866-348-7884. Do I have time for one more call. May be I do that want to talk about anything else about Donald Trump and is really a just just that. The big thing the big big big thing is Donald Trump saying I talked about this the beginning of the broadcast ready for the show you missed just go to the light a fire@thelineoffire.org and click on listen a couple hours after the show, you be able to watch or listen to the entire broadcast is very big that Donald Trump is noticing may be a one state solution would work.

We don't need two state solution that's big, that's big and it's creating shockwaves in different parts of the world right to have one more call this the can hear Brandon from Denton, Texas. Thanks for calling the line of fire early a sports or superior training for coke the black like Robert or are they called and failed luggage wanted to know scripturally know that they have no basis and we did a whole show about them two weeks ago will a gentleman on with us, who is a black juice. In other words from African dissent. But when there is when there is intermarriage or conversion, and so he he is a Jewish man a Jewish believer in Jesus the Messiah and got some excellent information about the Black Hebrew Israelites so that show it's two weeks ago today.

So if you go to the line of fire dawdling the line of fire.org and the show two weeks from today, you'll get a lot of helpful information there also. Also, the if you go to the same side light a fire.org and just search for the word black you'll see where I've done some teaching a short video of the ancient Israelites were blacker. Jesus was black will be talk about that as well so you'll find that there on the website and even other shows we've talked about Black Hebrew Israelites. At other times as well as if you just search for that search for bladder or Hebrew Israelites, you'll find that. And there are there are some that are less radical and and I got a run. We we've got the end of the show right here but there are some that are more radical and some that are less radical, but it appears the more radical or growing more and more and it's really really important that we know how to reach out that we know how to pray for them that we know how to expose the errors that we know how to help others who are being deceived by this and that we can get to the root of it, to know why people are going this direction how we can help them find the truth. Of course Jesus was white skin is not if but these are very important so that we got a call and so you'll find a lot of helpful information. My bottom line today Millie situation extraordinarily complex. How we pray for,


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