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Guest host Bill Mixon is joined by pod casters Michael Owens, Herbert Burns, and Jack Bales. Plus Dr.Speed talks the COVID vaccine.


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Together we explore the stories of men and women who take what they love and let God turn their passion into kingdom pursuits. Now live from the Truth Booth, your host, Robby Dilmore. Thank you for tuning in to Robby Dilmore's Kingdom Pursuits.

Robby is enjoying a weekend in the woods. If you listen to Robby's The Christian Car Guy Show, I might sound familiar to you. Occasionally I have the privilege to be a part of Kingdom Pursuits. It's my privilege today to share some time with you and introduce you to some friends of mine. One is Dr. Brittany Speed, who is an emergency room doctor that I've asked to join us by phone to help explain how beneficial the Coronavirus vaccine is for most people.

Also in the studio is Herb Burns and Jack Bales, who have set up a very successful podcast, Three Men for Thee, and Michael Owens, who oversees the discussion lunch group that Herb, Jack, and I and many others enjoy gathering each week to discuss current events. Welcome, gentlemen. Hello. Thanks, Bill. Thank you. It's good to be here. Let's start with Dr.

Speed. Speed is a friend who works in two different emergency rooms and has been in the front line against Coronavirus, and she's extremely bright and articulate, and I wanted her to make her case for everybody or most people getting the COVID vaccine. Doc, if you had a chance to educate North Carolina and the COVID vaccine, what would you like us to know? Good morning. Thanks, Bill, again for having me, and it's a pleasure to speak to you all this morning. I'm happy to get into this and enlighten everybody and miss how politically charged it's become, but my hope is that I can break it down a little bit back to the fundamentals on what we really should be focusing on when it comes to our protection from a health standpoint. Yes, I love my job. I do work in the emergency room, and we see it every day.

A lot of people are surprised that it's actually back up in North Carolina, and the numbers are getting higher each day, so it's a shock to a lot of people, but hopefully we can get it sooner rather than later. A few things that I wanted to speak about today. I think I would just break it down to basics of what is a vaccine and what is an mRNA vaccine and how does it help with this particular virus and kind of address the things that people are hesitant about, why it seems scary to them, and remind them that you can make a decision, but make an educated one and one that you've weighed all the risk personally about and haven't relied on social media or friends or whatever it might be to make that decision for you.

You're still in charge of that. So one thing I found surprising is that the mRNA vaccine is very feared. The word mRNA vaccine is new to people. We've been getting vaccinated for years. We vaccinate our children. We vaccinate as adults for a good reason, to protect against a lot of disease processes that were deadly or caused a lot of harm.

Some things people have never heard about because we're lucky enough to live in a world where polio and hepatitis B and tetanus, rubella, measles, pertussis, diphtheria. Smallpox, which was eradicated with the vaccine, are all something they're not familiar with very thankfully, actually. So mRNA vaccine science has been around for quite some time. Dr. Kariko is a Hungarian biochemist who was actually working on mRNA vaccines in the 1990s. Drew Wiseman was an immunologist that she happened to get up with, and through the early 2000s, they were able to really nail down and master the science. It took years for them to get the funding that they needed, to get the grant approvals that they needed in order to really successfully have the capability to provide functional vaccines. The vaccines, there have been others that have been published on as far as mRNA vaccinations go.

I don't remember if you guys recall SARS, but they did start working on an mRNA vaccine for that, but luckily it dissipated before we needed to use it. So when you do research and provide vaccinations for people, unless you work in a research environment or you're in the science field, you don't know how much goes into that funding approval. You need participants. And for once, the whole world wanted something. And so the funding was there.

The participants volunteered. The doctors across the country volunteered for the early trials in order to get the vaccine to make sure it was safe before distribution to the general public. And they took the time to do what they had to do to make sure it was safe, but they had all the other red tape removed, which allowed them to produce this vaccine at an exemplary rate. And that scares people.

And I get it. You know, if you asked me about cars and mechanics and the things that go in a car and told me there was some fancy new brake pad that I could use on my car that would be even better, and they just slapped it on there, I wouldn't know a thing about it, and I would just have to trust them because I don't know anything about it. So it's natural to have fear about things you don't know about. So the mRNA vaccine in itself has been in study, and they did take time to produce the science and to test it before it was given to the public. And that's kind of a little background on how that was done so quickly, because that is one of the biggest fears I've heard from people, you know, well, it was made too fast. But there are reasons that it was able to be made at that speed. And like we pray for health and safety of our family, I'm sure they spent many nights praying to give them the ability to produce something helpful for the world.

What next? So as far as the mRNA vaccine goes, if you know me, you know I like analogies and funny little stories, so bear with me. But to break it down, the science of an mRNA vaccine is an mRNA, which is a type of DNA product, but it's messenger RNA. DNA lives in our nucleus of a cell. If you think of a peach, you have the pit of the peach, you can consider that the nucleus where all your DNA is stored.

Around the peach is a fleshy substance, which we would call cytoplasm in a scientific cell. In the flesh of the peach or the cytoplasm is where the mRNA sits, and it's able to do its job. It does not ever get into the nucleus to mess with the DNA.

So the rumor that it becomes part of your DNA is not really true. The mRNA allows the body to make a copy of a protein, and a protein is what we recognize viruses by. All of the vaccines that you mostly know about, for example, the flu vaccine, they introduce the vaccine to your body. Your body looks at it, it's almost as if the body is introduced to a most wanted poster, and that most wanted poster is the flu or COVID. And so the mRNA is, your body does use it to make a copy of the protein, not the virus itself, but the protein that holds the virus. And because your body now recognizes or has that protein to look at, it has the most wanted poster for COVID. So when you get COVID, or it's introduced into your body, your body understands, hey, I know that guy, I saw him, my body recognizes that now and it's not a good guy. So I'm going to mount an immune response to fight him off, which helps prevent people from getting severe sickness with COVID. And so the basic mRNA vaccine is helping our body recognize COVID so that if you're exposed to it, it can mount an immune response before a full systemic infection even occurs. And you're right, what you said earlier, if you do happen to get COVID, because the vaccine is not 100% effective, I don't think anybody ever claimed it to be. But we do know that it prevents severe disease, and there are exceptions, but for the most part, if you get COVID, and you have been vaccinated, your symptoms are mild, sometimes none.

And those that are immunocompromised or have other issues going on, yes, they may also still get severe disease, but for the most common folks and laymen, it's better to have no symptoms or mild symptoms if you do contract it. So in terms of vaccination, I think one thing that I found kind of novel was that 96% or so of physicians in the United States are vaccinated. I think that's important to note because we weren't forced to get it. We have read the science, we've done the research, and unless you are in science and you're in the field, like I said, it's hard to get that knowledge. It's hard to understand where the science comes from.

So for us, for a lot of us, it was a no-brainer. We work in it, we see it, we see how detrimental it is, we see the regret on people's faces when they are told that they have it, the sadness. I diagnosed someone the other day and just got tears, and you feel hopeless almost at that point because then they ask you, well, what can I do? What's the treatment?

How do we make sure I don't get sick or pass away? And at this point, as far as any FDA-approved treatments, I don't know of any off the cuff, but I know there's emergency-release monoclonal antibodies and other treatment options that people are doing. And it surprises me that when they do get COVID, they want this stuff. They want everything they can get.

And the treatments are about as studied, if not less studied, than the actual vaccine itself. Speed, that's our music that's telling us we're closing down. You've got just a second to close up. No problem. I want to thank you so much for coming and talking to us. That really was a wonderful way to explain it.

I feel a whole lot more comfortable with the decision I made to get my shot. And I want to thank you for taking your time this morning. You're a pleasure and a joy.

Talk to you soon. The rest of you, please stay tuned for our other guest. You're listening to the Truth Network and

Thank you for tuning in to Kingdom Pursuits. We were listening to Dr. Speed. She had one closing point she wanted to make. Speed, what did you want to share with us? Sure.

Thanks again, Bill. You know, obviously, working in the healthcare field, I stand for the vaccine. But I want us to all remember that we're in it together. And there's a lot of distrust and resentment and anger, I think, going on because people are being told to get something that they don't know much about. But I think the shaming has to stop and that natural immunity is good for a little while.

We know it wears off. The vaccine works and we may need boosters, but vaccines have worked in the past. And you don't need to get the shot because somebody told you to get it, but get it because you're choosing the lows risk.

Do it for yourself. Read in the risks and understand that you can make a difference to yourself and your family and others around you. If you make an educated decision and understand that the vaccine is working. Thank you so much for listening and thank you for all you do. I know it's just been real tough the last year for folks working in the hospitals and the emergency rooms.

And you could have thrown your hands up, said I'm going to go fish or scuba dive and you stuck it out. I appreciate that. Thank you for tuning in with us. Thanks, Bill. And I hope you all have a lovely day.

Yes, ma'am. We've got three other guests here with us that I'd love to give time to talk about what they do. Mike Owens is a good friend. He leads a group where we get together every Monday at the Golden Corral and share the latest topics. Mike, tell us about your favorite guests that you had into the group. Favorite guests would be tough. I've been attending that particular event every Monday for seven or eight years and there have been a lot of great guests. We've had elected officials from from all over the state, local, you know, city and county officials. We've had members of our state legislature. We've had former governors as as guests, members of Congress as guests. But we've also had regular regular people who who are experts in whatever subject that that they feel passionate about.

And we've we've asked them to come in and talk about about that particular subject. So to to say that I have a favorite bill would be unfair to everyone that I didn't say so. Well, pick one if it's your least favorite. Tell us about somebody that you enjoyed coming in and talking to them.

Was that the recent one? Let's not go there. Pick one. Just pick one that you thought was really great to have talked to the group. Absolutely. The most recent guest.

We will not. He's a friend. I've known him for many years, but I suppose if I had to choose a favorite. We had many years ago, we had Senator Mike Lee from the great state of Utah, who was in North Carolina. Basically traveling the state with another North Carolina candidate for the U.S. Senate. And Mike Lee was here to promote that that North Carolina candidate.

And the two of them came to our our lunch. And it was the largest crowd we'd had in that room. I think ever probably 75 or 80 people. And I don't think the room is designed to hold more than 50 or so, maybe 60. And so it was standing room only. And it was great.

Senator Lee wasn't there for long, but he made quite an impression on a lot of people. And that would that would probably be one of the highlights of all the years that I've been involved with this with this weekly lunch. Well, we appreciate what you do.

It's a pain in the rear end, I'm sure, to make sure you've got folks coming in every week. But two of the folks that regularly come and sit down and eat with you and sometimes share their thoughts in the meeting is Herb and Jack. They have a wonderful podcast, Three Men for Thee. Did I remember that correctly?

That's correct. Please tell us a little bit about the podcast and how folks can tune into it. Well, I'm going to let Jack start to share with that because it was his conception from the beginning.

And he'll introduce us to the history of how that evolved. Sure. Thanks.

Thanks, Herb. It began for me back when I was a teenager, actually, and I had the notion to be a broadcaster. I applied for a position at Columbia School of Broadcasting. Did not make it, but I've kept the interest ever since. So as time as many years went by, I began to hear of individuals who were doing their own pod cast, which goes back to the Apple iPod, which I have one of those. And Apple made availability through the Internet, a way for people to record their thoughts, guess and put them out there primarily on the Internet. So that's how that part got started.

I have been wanting to do it for a number of years because I lived most of my life in Florida, but I now live in North Carolina. So when I came here, I really felt the Holy Spirit moving to go in this direction. But I didn't want to do it alone. So I prayed and I asked the Lord for some guidance and he sent me two fellows. He sent me Herb Burns and he sent me Alan Brown, both of which attend the Calvary Baptist Church where I go. And they, when I presented it to them, they prayed about it and we decided that was something we were going to do. So we bought a microphone and we set about going about recording interviews with various guests.

Thank you. I want to remind everybody, we're a call in show and we've got some gifts for the first two callers that call in. Herb brought some of his books, Never Stop. Was that the books you brought? Well, actually, I've written three books. The first was Route 66. And when I finished that book, I said, God, what's next?

He said, don't you understand? Never stop. So I wrote two more books in the Never Stop series as well. Never Stop Asking, Discovering and Sharing.

And the one that you have here is Never Stop Teaching and Leading Help Heal Our Nation. If you've got questions about the podcast or the lunch, the number is 336-896-0830. We'd love for you to call in. Why did you decide to join the group and to be part of the podcast?

Well, it all goes down to saying, God, what can I do for you? And Jack is our Bible fellowship teacher and I have some skills in technology. So I was able to incorporate those technology skills to put the podcast up and online. And we started recording some of the interviews in my house. Now we do Zoom video interviews.

We post those. And we've been blessed to interview quite a few notable people in America. And our viewing audience is now reaching a worldwide audience as we look at the matrix of our podcast. You got an idea how many people you're reaching? Well, when I look at the matrix, I see that we've got viewers in Belarus, Ukraine, France.

And we're getting thousands of downloads of our podcasts. Spectacular. Wonderful. Now, who's your third person in the group? It's Alan Brown. And Alan is in our Bible fellowship class. And Alan has been an inspirational spiritual leader to many people at our church over the years.

He's just a great partner in this podcast as well. Mike, how long have you been doing the lunch? Well, I've been an attendee of the lunch for several years.

I don't know, six or eight years, but I've been sort of leading the group for a little over a year now. The previous lady who was sort of heading the group each week left the state. And because I was helping her each week, she asked if I would want to continue it. And I said I would be happy to do it.

And I've been doing that for a little over a year now. Now, if I'm not mistaken, there must be five or six people that decided to become precinct chairman because of the group. I mean, you've really made a big impact, I know, on my life and a number of other people to open our eyes and encourage us to get more active. Yeah, we are not an official Republican Party meeting. Many years ago it was.

It hasn't been for several years. We're just a group of people who care about the community and care about the country and want to do what we can to make our country and our city and our county a better place. And we've been fortunate to have a lot of people who've come in and decided to take a more active role in local politics.

We've been very fortunate with that. Jack, sort of give us a rundown of some of your guests or at least some of your, primarily your interviewing folks. One of the people that we were very pleased and happy to get, our very first guest, was actually a broadcaster himself.

He has a nationally broadcast radio show. This is C.L. Bryant.

C.L. Bryant happened to come to town just at the time that we were beginning our podcast. So I made contact with him through an associate, through a friend, and we were very fortunate and able to get him as our very first guest.

We've had Rafael Cruz, who is the father of Senator Ted Cruz. We have the activist mommy, Elizabeth Johnston, who at the Salt and Light Conference two years ago just blew me away. We had some great speakers there that year. Everybody was really good. But she just so impressed me with her presentation. So we've been able to get her.

And we've had a number of local pastors and missionaries, folks like that. Hey, you've got a great voice for this. I'm sitting here thinking, well, I wish I sounded that good. And it sounds like you've really enjoyed putting together your podcast. I'm looking forward to listening to a lot more of the ones that I hadn't gotten to yet.

The music is telling us that we'll be right back in just a minute. Please tune back in and consider calling. We'd love to have your questions.

You're listening to the Truth Network and Thank you for tuning in. We appreciate it.

We want to remind you we're a call in show and the number is 336-896-0830. Herb, you did something I would love to claim that I had done. And that's write some books. Your background, you're an engineer? Well, I'm an architect. Don't say engineer.

You've got more personality than that. How did you go from that to where you're writing books on your relationship with Christ and helping people get more tuned into our Savior? Well, that's a great question, Bill. I never thought I would be an author. I've been an educator for almost 40 years teaching at the college level.

And, you know, college professors and instructors try to build their credentials up. So I was trying to do that. So I was working really hard one year. I had to get the president's approval on this thing I was trying to achieve, my supervisor's approval. I failed the first year.

Well, I'm a competitor. So the second year I went through the same process again. The president had to endorse me. So I went back to the president again and say, will you do this again? I failed the second year. I really got frustrated. And I remember in the office I just slammed my hands on the desk and said, God, I give up.

If it's not your will, it will not be done. In that moment I said, what can I do for you? I've got to quit saying what can you do for me?

So I said, what can I do for you? And the response I got back was, use your talents to spread my word. And my response was, well, I'm a Christian.

I go to church. I've read in the Bible. But, you know, I've never read your Bible from beginning to end. So Route 66 is my journey from Genesis to Revelation. And for each book of the Bible, when I finished reading that book of the Bible, I did a digital painting, a history of that book, and how you apply it in the world today. So that was my response. And when I finished the book, I said, okay, what's next?

He said, don't you understand? Never stop. So that's how the title of my other two books came about in the Never Stop series. So how do people find your book? Are you on Amazon or is there a webpage?

Well, that's interesting. Yeah, it's with Amazon, Barnes & Noble. But the easiest way to find it is just go to my website, And you can look at information on the books. You can look at videos on the books. You can read reviews on the books.

So H-E-R-B, B-U-R-N-S dot com. Mike, one of the things I remember the first time I came to the meeting, it was made very clear that nobody cared what party you were or whether you were affiliated with any party or not, but that there was going to be a conservative slant to the meeting as a whole. I know that I've enjoyed being a part of the group, and I know not only precinct chairman, but we've had a lot of other people that ended up becoming election judges and getting interested in trying to direct our elected officials to remember what they campaigned on to begin with.

But share a little bit about the group with the audience. Yeah, so it really started probably 10 or 12 years ago, and it was a Republican Party-sponsored weekly luncheon. And the emcee of the week was either the current chairman of the county party or the vice chair of the county party, and it went that way for a few years. And then for one reason or another, they stopped hosting the meeting, and one of the regular attendees, a very nice lady, said that she wanted to keep it going, whether the party wanted to be involved or not, and she renamed it the conservative lunch. She took the party out of it, and that's the way it's been ever since. And she headed the meeting for a few years, and then she had to step away, and another lady stepped in and took over, and I helped her a little bit with that for two or three years.

And then when she left, she asked if I would continue, and I said I would love to. So we are not a Republican lunch, though just about everyone in the room is probably a Republican, but we are a conservative-minded group, and anyone is welcome to join us on any Monday. As long as you come into the room with an open mind and are willing to be respectful of people who may have different ideas from you, as long as you can come in with respect and an open mind, you're welcome. We'd love to hear from you because you almost certainly can talk about whatever we're talking about from a different point of view, and we would love to hear that. Our nation needs more opportunities for people to have intelligent conversations where you can have different opinions and not be shot down. I agree.

Every time I turn on the TV, you go to one station, it's like you're locked into this is only one way to look at all the facts, and they sort of get screwed up on what facts actually are. But your lunch has just made a big difference for me. I appreciate that, Bill. Jack, talk a little bit about some of the folks that have been on your podcast.

Pick one that really moved you and share with the audience. Encourage them to go to your web page and listen to at least one of your podcasts. You can find us very easily by just simply Googling three men for thee.

That'll take you over to our website, and that's where primarily all of our podcasts are housed and located, and you're free to download them, of course. Listen to whichever ones you would like. But I have to admit that for me, I don't know about Herb or Alan, but for me, our very first guest, C.L.

Bryant, was the one that really moved me the most. I was so moved by what he had to say on the podcast that I invited him over to our group. I do teach a Bible fellowship class over at Calvary Baptist Church and was glad to be able to get him to come over for a breakfast.

And he got us all fired up about being a Christian, being involved in government. And that's one thing I want to say about the Conservative Club. I'm so glad that there is something like that that you can go to. It's one thing to talk to your family and friends, but it's another when you come into a group of people you don't even know and you get a chance to bounce ideas off of them, be encouraged. That was the motivation for me, and it also encouraged me to get involved as a precinct chairman and as a chief judge here in Forsyth County. So I would encourage anyone, particularly if you're frustrated about the way things are going, it's always good to be able to sit down and talk with some folks who are going to listen to you, give you a chance to talk, and bounce some ideas off of them. It's been very helpful for me. We had a caller call in, and I just didn't get to it fast enough.

I hope they will call back. Herb is going to share with us a story of one of his more favorite interviews or one of the podcasts that he thought the most of, one that everybody should try to listen to. The first one anybody should look at and listen to.

Herb, which one should they listen to? Well, I'm going to mention two things. First is the interview with Reverend C.L.

Bryant because he produced a movie called Runaway Slave, and the movie is really about the government and how the government is trying to enslave our republic. So the very first interview. And more recently, we interviewed a pastor from Ukraine. He was here with 30 other Ukrainians attending a freedom of religion seminar in Washington, D.C., and he's now a political leader in Ukraine as well as being a pastor.

So can you imagine this? Their goal is to take God into politics. They want to bring God into politics in Ukraine.

Imagine if we did that in America, we brought God into politics in America. We've got Martin's calling in to talk about the podcast. We've got a hard break coming here. So right after the break, Martin, I hope you will hold on and let us talk to you. What podcast would you recommend folks start listening to when they dial in?

Well, again, I would emphasize C.L. because that's the spirit of the whole purpose of the podcast for me. So that captured me. Wonderful. Well, we appreciate folks tuning in. We're going to come back after the break. We've got Martin on hold. Remember, you can dial in to 336-896-0830 and ask your questions.

Consider setting up your own podcast or your own lunch to help encourage others. You're listening to The Truth Network and Martin, I want to thank you for calling in not only once but twice and we look forward to you enlighten us and asking a question. How are you this morning? Martin, are you there?

Okay, let's see. Martin, can you hear us? Martin, evidently my finger is not as smart as I thought it was. Somebody is coming to help me. What am I doing here, Sean? Okay, Martin, are you there? Yes, I am, but the signal comes in and out.

Okay, well, my finger is a little bit smarter now than it was. Okay, thank you for calling in. You had a question?

Yes, I was wondering, a question to your author. I'm interested in writing on religious topics of the gospel message, but which would he find a better method to use to write podcasts and use them to make a book or to write a book and make lots of podcasts out of the book? Well, I think the first thing you have to do is you have to go to prayer. You have to ask God, you know, what is the path that he wants you on? And as you pray sincerely, you'll discover what that path is.

When I started writing my books, I didn't know what the path was going to be, and then I'm an indie author, so I had to find a publishing house to publish the book, and I did a lot of research on that. If you're a podcast, it's quite easy now to go online. YouTube, you can just post YouTube channels as well. You can share your thoughts and messages to friends.

I have a friend who sends me a devotional every morning, so when I wake up, I've got a devotional message from him. So my response to you is there's many paths that you can choose, and find one that you're comfortable with, and that will lead you in the direction God wants you to go. I'm the novice here, but I would think that you'd need to write some notes down if you were going to do a podcast. So you could start by roughing out what your concepts are, and then figure out whether it's easier to go one way or the other. If I could add one thing to that, there are a number of podcasts that I listen to every day, really, and I've noticed that a number of podcasters have already written a book, or they're in the process of writing a book, and they kind of put their podcast toward whatever direction that their book is going to.

So you can do it whatever way that the Lord leads you, but I've noticed that there are a number of people who write the books based on their podcast. Well, let me just say one more thing. As an aide, you're going to get a free book today. Wonderful. And that book, if you look at that, that may give you some guidance on how to structure something that you want to write. So Martin, did they get your address?

No. Okay, they're going to pick the phone up, and they're going to get your address, and we're going to send you a copy of the book, and we appreciate you calling in. I hope you have a blessed day, sir. You too.

Thank you very much. We've got room for more callers, 336-896-0830, and we've got another book for the next caller. You mentioned one of your other podcasts that would be the second one you would want. Yes, the second one for me would be with Rafael Cruz, the father of Senator Ted Cruz. I had heard him at Salt and Light and was very impressed with him, and we got a chance to meet him, and we were able to talk to him, and fortunately, he was able to work in his very busy schedule, a time of podcasting for us, and it was very enjoyable.

I thought he hit everything right on the head, probably because that's pretty much the way I feel, and so that's easy for me to say, but I enjoyed that one the second most, and then the third most would be Elizabeth Johnston, the activist mommy. What an amazing lady she is. I believe she has five or six children, and the oldest one is like 13 or 14, so she is a very busy lady, and yet she finds time to write books and to broadcast and to be at events like Salt and Light, so she's got an amazing story. She's a very active blogger, and she is on Facebook.

You can check her out, as well. You know, this COVID mess has encouraged a lot of us to turn into turtles and pull our heads in and hide from everybody, and I got to say it's time that we stick our heads back out, we get our shot, we go do what we got to do if we got to wear the mask, but we need to get back out socializing with people, because if you're not socializing with people, you're not going to bump into folks that need to hear the good news of Jesus Christ. You're not going to have the opportunity to be a light on the hill or a time of refreshing. We've got to get back into some of those things that many of us were doing before this blessed COVID and the response to the COVID hit. Yet we need to be volunteering. We need to be making a difference in the lives of others. We need to be gathering again and sharing our concerns and our thoughts and to be learning and to be spending time in groups, in the Scriptures. We've got to open things back up, and I encourage you, if you're healthy and you can get out, are you doing what you can to make a difference in the lives of your neighbors and the other people living in your community? Think about joining a group for lunch. Think about starting one. Think about sharing your views and your thoughts in a book or starting a podcast. Get back out into making a difference with giving blood at the Red Cross. Let's get back into our communities and make a difference for Christ. We'll be back in just a moment.
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