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May 9, 2026 2:40 pm

Joy Bowser shares her personal story of overcoming bitterness and doubt, while Chris Bennett talks about his children's book, The World's Fastest Sloth, and Ken and Mary Sue Grine discuss their book, Jacob's Story, about their son who couldn't hear, talk, or walk but could change the world.

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This is the Truth Network. Kingdom Pursuits, where you hear from ordinary people instilled with an extraordinary passion. Together we explore the stories of men and women who take what they love and let God turn their passion into kingdom pursuits.

Now, live from the Truth Booth, your host, Robbie Dilmore. It is Mother's Day Eve. which fits perfectly with lots of biblical themes. And we didn't want anybody to not know that in case they'd forgotten that tomorrow is in fact Mother's Day and how fun that we have Oh, many mothers' children today, and they all are authors of amazing books. And so, being loaded for bear today, we're just going to start off with Joy Bowser.

She wrote an amazing book called Move Off This Mountain: Living Beyond Your Experiences. And so, Joy, I love the title, and I love that it's from Deuteronomy 1:6. I'll let people go look that up for themselves. It's so good.

Okay.

Okay.

Yeah, it it's based on Deuteronomy one, six, where Jesus or God tells Moses that he's been on the mountain long enough, it's time to move on. And that he wants him to turn around and go a different way, which is a nod to biblical repentance, to not continue doing things the way we've always done them. to turn around and do something different. And so that kind of got my attention. And so What are some of those things that we carry with us?

We all have experiences in our life. that we've either been born with Um, like maybe perhaps, um You know, some kind of a disability. Maybe sometimes it's how we view ourselves.

Sometimes it may be how others view us that we pick it up, we carry it, and And that becomes our experience. It may be bitterness, it may be doubt, it may be. Family truths, whatever experience it is that we've picked up and are carrying along. Right. It's like God wants us to drop it, turn around, and go.

And there you go.

So. We're going to have fun with Joy, and then we also have with us, and this is really fun, Chris Bennett, who wrote the book for children, and it's beautifully illustrated. The world's on just plain world's fastest sloth.

So welcome, Chris. Hey, yeah, thanks. I write a story about a sloth, slow as molasses, and every year he wins the sloth one meter dash. And then and then one year a a cheetah shows up and a cheetah says that he's a sloth and he's gonna race run in the sloth race, right? And it goes into what happens when people speak out about it and all that kind of stuff.

And um it it's a it's a lot of fun. I I'd love it. You know, again, j just just taking a very unique perspective. Like the idea of move off this mountain, like God's telling you to get off the mountain. It's it's it's it's similar in Perspective that, like, my goodness, what are you going to do if you are the sloth and here comes a cheetah?

And along those lines, right, is A lot of people would look and we've got Ken and Mary Sue Grine and their book, um, Jacob's Story, he could hear he couldn't hear, he couldn't talk, he couldn't walk, but he could change the world. And so I imagine there's quite a story there, Ken and Mary Sue. I'll let Ken start. Yes, Jacob was born six weeks premature. and had a cyst on his kidney the size of a grapefruit.

went into emergency surgery and two days later had a complete meltdown where he had Seven heart attacks, two complete blood transfusions was. very, very sick. The doctors came to us and said, You should just let him die and start your life over. We were twenty-two years old. And we said, no way.

If God takes him home, then God takes him home. Otherwise, we accept our Son the way he is. because every life is worth living and We chose to keep him and thirty-seven years later we had a wonderful thirty seven years with him. He passed away in twenty nineteen. And the story, right, itself Um is part of what he passed on.

to all of us, and it's kind of cool that not only is there the book, there's a mu a movie coming out about it as well that we understand that you guys are working on. And so you can see, if you're listening, that we have a just a fascinating story of shows Um with fascinating stories, because imagine that most of you listening know that Behind every book? Mm-hmm. There's a story. The story of the individual that lived the life, whether it's joy.

There's gonna be experiences that she described about moving the mountain. I'm really interested to know about Chris's story about slothness. Having, you know, trying to be a a retired sloth myself. I'm fascinated to know about that one. But we're so grateful that you tuned in today.

And of course, we're going to be getting to playing a little shenanigans here right as we get into the second segment. But I want to push into Chris a little bit more. How did you get the idea to write a book about sloth racing?

Okay.

So I every every night when we go to bed we read our right we read our kids' bedtime stories and and write them a regular story, read them a Bible story. And the regular stories, I just found them disappointing. I was like, I mean, I'm not an author, but I could write better stories than these. And um So that's where my headspace was at. And I went to bed one night and you lay down, you're ready to go to sleep, and God just drops this idea for a kid story in my head.

And so I get back up, and two hours later, I wrote up this story. And it it tackles, right?

So I ended up making a publishing company because I got a bunch of other books that he gave me.

So we're going to write Christian Conservative Children's Books. Right, and they're going to help parents teach these biblical truths in a world where you got all these confusing messages.

So each story. Going to blend a lot of humor. It's a great story at heart. But it's strong values-based lessons rooted in biblical worldview. I'm uh but I'm I'm curious, is there a story in your own life?

That You related to in order to like, and I'm sure there's a Bible story we're going to find out about that that backs this one. Um Well, the Bible story that backs it, right, is probably like. Deuteronomy 22, 5.

So I kind of rewrote it to say, you know, paraphrase it, to say a sloth must not dress like a cheetah, and a cheetah must not dress like a sloth. Anyone who does this is disgusting to the Lord your God. That was kind of the um Does that make sense? Absolutely. Absolutely.

Have you run into that in your own life at some point in time where somebody appeared to be something that they weren't. Ah. Oh, yeah, sure. Yeah, I it's happened in my life, but you see it on the news all the time, right? Where, um Uh where Right.

Oh, I understand. There's all sorts of, you know. Men doing women's sports and all sorts of interesting things. It would be very, you know, but some things that happened to us personally. um, have a greater weight that we can relate to them, right?

That is true. Um I'm not I'm actually a big sports person. My kids are still little. The driving force was I wanted to be able to teach my kids this stuff. Before you know somebody else, somebody else gives them other ideas.

So, I want parents to be around their kids, but I don't have a personal story where I. Right word. where I lost to a Yeah, good.

Well, I I would I would I would actually challenge I would actually challenge you. To say, okay, God put this story on my heart, not just. For Yes. The children of the world. 'Cause I you know, I I I've written several Um or l it's a lot more than several, um Christian children's Um The screenplay is what everyone calls I Do Christian Cargai Theater, which is a whole series of somewhat radio animated like adventures in Odyssey, only from the Christian Cargai perspective.

And having done that for years and years, it always appears to me that there's always something to learn in what God is showing me. In other words, I start off to teach people, but Often he says, Well, now let's take a look back because the Bible does such a better job of reading me sometimes. You know what I'm saying? And therein lies the interesting challenge. Have you noticed that joy in your life?

Yes, absolutely. And especially when I was writing this book because This has been on the planned list since twenty fifteen. And I was taking care of my sick mother then, um, who Yeah. I hate to interrupt you, Joy, but that music means we've got to go to a break. We're going to find out a lot more about.

Ken and Mary Sue's story. More about, I gotta find out what happens with the sloth and the cheetah, and joy's we gotta get off this mountain. Plus, we're gonna play shenanigans when we come back.

So stay tuned, we got so much more King of Persuas coming at you. You're listening to the Truth Network and TruthNetwork.com. Welcome back to Kingdom Pursuits, where we hear how God takes your passion. And uses it to build the kingdom today. We are certainly loaded with wonderful people that have the passion to write stories and, you know, relating to how God has worked in their lives and things that they are learning.

And so one of those stories has to do with move off this mountain. And so speaking of mountains.

Now it's finished. Oh, yes, it is. Time to play in the shenanigans. And so. For Joy and Chris and Ken and Mary Sue, that maybe.

We weren't aware of this part of the show, but here we get a chance to hear some Robbie Dad jokes. You get a chance to try to guess my riddles, which are Robbie Dad jokes. And then at the end of this, the listeners get a chance to call it and win, which I'm excited about. That part of it. And so.

With that said, Joy or Chris or Ken or Mary Sue, if you feel like you've got an answer to one of these riddles, you jump in there. We would love to hear it. And by all means, This is where you laugh loud if you think it's funny at the end, you know? Here we go. To start off with Nick, why are mountains so funny?

Uh hmm.

Okay.

Joy, you wrote the book on it. I mean, help me out, Joy. Why? Why are you. No answer.

No answer. You got any ideas, Ken? I sure don't. Oh, because they're hill areas. They're hilarious.

Now you got the hang of it.

Now you got a chance at this next one.

Okay.

So. What? Do some pilots fly into mountains? Why do some pilots fly in the mountains? You got any idea, Nick?

Well, I don't know. That's one of my biggest fears. I'm going to marry Sue on this one. I'm guessing she's got it. I don't have it.

You don't have it.

Okay.

It's hard. It's a bad altitude. You know, people that are struggling with bad altitude will run in the mountains if you, you know.

So, anyway, with that said, my personal favorite on my list of what I have for you guys today is why can't just anyone work at the Mountain Dew factory? Why can't just anyone work? At the Mountain Dew Factory, Nick. Oh I don't know. I don't really dream that one dude, huh?

Yeah. Joy, this is your your your idea again. Wait, see Tuesday again? Why can't just anyone work at the Mountain Dew factory? Might catch fun guy do.

It's like you're not too far off. You've got to have a can-do attitude. And I mean, can do. Oh, things like that do tickle me, I got to admit it.

So at the end of those shenanigans, you knew we would have a riddle for you to call in and win today. And so our riddle today is which mountain in the Bible works best for a Sunday on Sunday. Which mountain in the Bible works best for a Sunday on Sunday? And if they can answer that riddle, Nick. Tell them what they win.

Absolutely. Yes, so we win a prize from our Kingdom Pursuits Prize Ball. We have comic book action Bibles. We got a new shipment of back scratchers. And if you know the answer to Robbie's riddles, give us a call at 866-348-788-4-866-34Truth.

866-348-7884. You just gotta tell us. Which mountain in the Bible works best for a Sunday? on Sunday. And again, we we just I have improved The special edition Kingdom Pursuits Gospel Back Scratchers, right?

Nick is now not only do we have all the beads now that you can, you know, you've got the red bead for the blood of Christ and all that on the back scratcher.

So while you're scratching somebody's back, you can share the gospel. But we now have the secret decoder page to go with it to give you exactly what each color means and why they're on there. And again, we just keep con. The Kingdom Pursuits backscratchers have been a big hit, but we have books. Oh, do we have books?

And from what I understand, right, Chris, we're offering today that you have something special on your book, right? Yeah, we took some of the pages of the sloth and the cheetahs from the World's Famous Sloth book and we turned them into coloring pages. Um so you can uh we'll email maybe email those out and you can give them to your kids to uh color before you get the book. Right. So when you talk to to Nick, which which of the many prizes in the prize vault do you want to select from?

You know, he'll get your email address so we can get that out to you. And all you got to do again is answer which mountain in the Bible works best for a Sunday. On Sunday. And so getting back to Ken and Mary Sue and Jacob's story. You know, I don't know if you know this guys, but I taught special needs at our church for Over twenty years.

And we hate it. We had All kinds are different. I mean, you know, it wasn't just Down syndrome and people with autism, but often, you know, they were. There are folks that were completely wheelchair bound and wouldn't even appear that that y you would never hear them speak a word, but they made all kinds of noises and and they had abilities to worship God as only they could. I imagine you guys got to see that through Jacob.

Yes, we were very blessed. He actually had a ministry. That made other people break down the barriers that they had in their lives. He was very sensitive to the Spirit of the Lord. And wow, he lived 37 years, which I having worked with this group, they You know, they usually don't get past their teens.

Yes, that's true. He had cerebral palsy. He was deaf, and he had a kidney transplant when he was 14. Wow.

So he wasn't wheelchair bound, but he used a walker and a scooter. I have one story that I'd like to share. When he would go to bed at night, We began to hear some noises coming from his room, and he couldn't speak. But he had a language that he would speak that we began to kind of understand, but we'd hear him. And he'd be going, Oh, go And he'd say that really loud and he'd s and he'd almost sing it sometimes.

So we'd peek into his room. And there he was laying on his bed with his hands up in the air, and his head would be going back and forth And he was just praying and singing to the Lord, and we knew that he was connected to. to the spirit realm. And it was interesting because our kids Our other three children that we had would hear him also, and it was one of the most precious. times that we got to experience and he would do this often.

That is so beautiful. You know, I um I don't know if anybody's had a chance to see it, but the the mus the the new movie that just came out, A Great Awakening. It was done by sight and sound. And they made it, you know, the whole thing on George Whitfield. And what he said kind of grabbed me, and it has your story grabbed me too, along these lines.

He said that. I guess that the Archbishop of Canterbury once asked this famous actor, you know, why is it that actors can captivate an audience so much when pastors can't? And This actor told the Canterbury, or the Archbishop of Canterbury, that. You know, actors. Make something that's unbelievable believable.

And unfortunately, a lot of us make something that's so believable, in other words, God and all that, that it's not believable. But when you see something like. that testimony of Jacob, as he's worshiping, then you realize that there's something real there that we're not able to see the way that Jacob can see it. And it points you right straight at God, right? Yeah, yeah.

Yeah. His life was so fragile. And his life was so, um, how would you say, undetermined, That every day had to point us to the Lord because we were always looking for the next breath or the next moment. And being that He lived 137 days in the NICU and we're right beside Him, we were amazed at seeing a miracle before our eyes, EEG, and that had to point the nurses and doctors to the Lord to see the change go from abnormal to normal. And then from that point on, how he interacted with kids, and many of them were.

healthy and respect and maybe only deaf, but they would consider him his best friend or their best friend. That's so beautiful.

Well, we have it looks like Doctor Date the word Carson himself.

So, Dr. Carson, you know me well enough to probably. Figure out what the answer to my riddle. And you don't have a gospel back scratcher that I know of, do you? I don't.

I surely don't. But I'm hoping to get one now because you know, I couldn't help but think, and I might be wrong here, but I couldn't help but think Mount Caramel because I love caramel sundae. I do too. I do too. And I gotta tell you that You know, you're going to really enjoy this back scratcher.

It's bamboo and it's telling me I'm right. Yes, absolutely. Nobody has ever not been right on Kingdom Pursuits in the history of the show. But not only are you right because you're right, you know, but also that's exactly what I had in mind as I was thinking about fun stuff to think about biblically about. And you have been to Mark Carmel, as have I.

And so when you are looking at Martin Carmel as being Dr. Date the Word Carson, what do you see?

Well, um It's if you ever go to Israel, you've got to go to Mount Carmel because you go up on top of the monastery that's there and you can see the view is 360. And it is absolutely incredible to see the Valley of Megetto. This is where the A final battle of Armageddon is going to be fought. Napoleon's fight is the greatest land of all. Ugh.

Yes, yes, what you can see from up there. It is a Sunday worth eating. And so thank you, Doc, for calling in. We got a whole lot more with Joy and Chris and Ken and Mary Sue.

So stay tuned. A whole lot more. Kingdom Pursuits coming up. You're listening to the Truth Network and TruthNetwork.com. Welcome back to Kingdom Pursuits, where we hear how God takes your passion and uses it to build the kingdom and so wonderfully.

That God has put it on the heart of these wonderful people to write these books that we can all share in their stories in similar ways. We got Joy Bowser, Chris Bennett. Joy's book is Move Off This Mountain. Chris's is the world's fastest sloth. And then Ken and Mary Sue Grine is Jacob's story.

He couldn't hear, he couldn't talk, he couldn't walk. But he could change the world. And I've had an experience with a lot of young folks that changed my world, I can assure you. As I saw how God moved in them, it was more real than anything I can possibly imagine. But along those lines, joy.

In your story, like Y you had said something that obviously God got your heart with that Deuteronomy 1:6 statement. What was behind that?

Okay.

Um In my past life, I've been a Sunday school teacher for. over 50 years. And um I I'm always looking for the story that I can tell someone else and a way to teach someone else. And that was my intent with this book. And I had no idea how much God was going to point the fingers at me specifically and how therapeutic it was to get rid of the feelings that I have had for all of my life.

And so, in talking about bitterness and doubt, and lots of things that were going on in my personal life at the time I began writing this book, it really comes through the pages and has really changed my life and got me back. on track with God, my thoughts. Just one of those and again, you don't have to mention any names, but one of those bitter bitterness areas that he worked on. My husband and I were part of a local congregation for 36 years of our marriage. I had been raised in that church.

And in twenty sixteen, while we were still dealing with my mom's health issues and she had been a member there, she had actually been baptized in that church when she was pregnant for me.

So that tells you how long we've been part of that.

Well, we were labeled troublemakers and had a lot of things going on at the church that we just could not be reckoned with. And so we chose to resign our positions and moved on. But there was a lot of bitterness with how that had all been handled and the things that we had gone through. And my mom remained a member there until she passed away in 2018. But it got to the point where she didn't even want me to attend church with her because of the way people were treating me.

when I would go. And so I was very bitter about missing out on opportunities of vis of visiting on Mother's Day or Christmas. Sure.

So how did God come after that? Oh man. Um, with a vengeance. You know, um As you start to pour out your hurts and your feelings and the things you've experienced in your life. He just he heals you when you when you give it up to him and you say, when you recognize it in yourself and you're able to dump it at his feet?

Um it just it it evaporated before me. Yeah, church works really hard, you know, and I think that's a good idea. Interestingly, I have several similar stories I could share. But what he pointed me to, you know, I went and looked at Love Your Neighbor as Yourself. Yeah.

And I had failed to see before where it's in the Old Testament. There were a couple of commandments that come before that in the same verse. It first says. Hmm. Don't seek revenge.

And the second one is: don't hold a grudge. Mm-hmm. And as I thought of that idea of grudge, all of a sudden I went, oh my goodness. And I could see it in Hebrew, and I love Hebrew, and I was reading the Hebrew, that both those words start with the letter nun, which has to do with the seed in the ground. And so.

When I'm holding a grudge, I've actually got a root that's growing. And I'm feeding it. In other words, I'm constantly finding ways to justify why I'm holding this grudge, and I'm feeding this root that is just absolutely destroying my heart. And The more I thought about that verse, it was like, here's the one thing, and then here's this other. Like, how can I start a route of love?

For that same person, so that when their name comes up in my heart, I don't all of a sudden think of ways that I could justify my bad altitude.

Well, the funny thing is I had an opportunity this past week um at a a funeral to talk to one of those people that I would had been with the most Bitter at And we had a 15-minute discussion, and it wasn't a case somebody saw him and turned away like I would have. You know, three or four years ago, and I had the opportunity to hug another lady who had also been part of the church at that time. And I said, you may have witnessed a miracle and she said, well, I'm not there So she was, you know, but I could recognize that at the time that this is one. Yeah, I'm beyond that. It's so beautiful that he put that book on your heart.

And so moving back to Chris and the world's fastest sloth, I gotta know, man, how how did because when I look at the pictures of the world's fastest sloth, the cheetahs are in the picture, they look pretty happy too. How did you resolve this problem? Oh, look, that was tricky. The last page of the book was the hardest to write. Like, God gave me the whole book except for the last page.

And then one day my wife's like, hey, last night, God gave me the ending to your book. And I was like, what? And she tells me, and I'm like, Oh my word, it's so obvious.

So I had to I already had it illustrated. I had to go back and have the last page fixed fixed. Um Yeah, I just I'm just angry.

So what was her dream? I gotta know. How are you going to read the book tonight?

So, am I missing something when I look at that illustration? The cheetahs look very happy. Are they? I mean, they do. I mean, obviously, the sloth is the winner.

We kind of knew he was the world's fastest.

So, somehow or another, I don't know how he beat the cheetahs. We're going to find that out when we read the book. Yeah, my daughter says that all the time. She's like, Sloth's going to win. Sloth's going to win.

But yeah, it'll launch on Kickstarter on June 2nd.

So it's not actually out yet. On June 2nd, it'll be up. But if you go to his website. Um it's which is a beautiful website. You can pre-order the book, right?

Or you go to Amazon. Yeah, yes. The website, you just go to the website, you type your email address in, and on June 2nd, you'll get an email with a link to the Kickstarter where you can buy it. That's so beautiful.

And so, Ken and Mary Sue. Your book's out now, right? That's correct. It's on Amazon. And it's called Jacob's Story.

He couldn't hear, he couldn't talk, he couldn't walk, but he could change the world. And the movie is Wart, can you give us an update on that? Yeah, they're in the second writing of the script and when that's finished. We already have one organization that's wanting to go ahead and do the movie for us. Really?

Yep, yep. But we're praying about which direction to go and There uh when the script is done, we're going to send it out to lots of uh producers to to take a look at and And we'll just wait on the Lord. Yeah, that's funny. I've been there. I've got scripts that I've written.

It's exactly right. God will make a way sometimes, it's unbelievable. As he's done with all three of your books, right? I'm sure there were times in that process that you thought, man, I don't know how we're going to. and get through this But can you share a little bit of that, uh Mary Sue?

Well, we are trusting God. At the very beginning of this journey, we knew that God had a plan for Jacob's life, right? And so he was born in nineteen eighty one. He he lived to twenty nineteen.

So the process goes on where you're still trusting God to make the life of His Story. Come out. And so we've lived this life of faith, waiting day by day, watching God do what He does best, and we're more than willing to wait on Him a little longer. and watching his story come out. That's absolutely beautiful.

How about you, Joy? What was the process once you got your book done? And you got to get it published and all that. How did that go? Actually, I was offered a contract with the Christian.

A publishing company, and I have also been burned by a similar company. Um back in 2016, I won't mention the All right, it can be a journey.

Well, I hear that music means we got to go to a break. We got one more segment coming up of Kingdom Pursuits again. Joy Bowser's book, Move Off This Mountain: Living Beyond Your Experiences. Chris Bennis. World's fastest sloth, not hard to find that one.

Canon Mary Sue Green's Grinds, Jacob's Story. He couldn't hear, he couldn't talk, he couldn't walk, but he could change the world. You're listening to the Truth Network and TruthNetwork.com. Welcome back to Kingdom Pursuits, where we hear how God takes your passion. And uses it to build the kingdom.

So blessed today to have with us Ken, excuse me, and Mary Sue Grine. They wrote the book Jacob's Story, and was soon to come out as a movie. And the byline is: he couldn't hear, he couldn't talk, he couldn't walk, but he could change the world. We also have Chris Bennett with us, who wrote the book, a children's book, beautifully illustrated, by the way, just gorgeous. World's Fastest Sloth.

So now we've got a real good book to read our kids at bedtime. And we got Joy Bowser, who wrote Move Off This Mountain, Living Beyond Your Experiences, based on Deuteronomy 1:6. And so. This last segment's kind of short, so I just want to get everybody a chance to chime in a little bit. Ken and Mary Sue, was there something you guys wanted to make sure you got said today you haven't said?

Yeah. Um We wrote the book because we wanted to see people come to know Jesus. We wanted to see people have hope in whatever difficulties that they're going through because everybody is going through difficult times. And we wanted to also have people realize that don't give up. on on uh a child Life is so precious.

And every day is a gift and every life is worth living. Yeah, it'd neat thing to know, Ken, that somebody could read that book. and not have the abortion. Right. Exactly.

With their special needs child and create a new appreciation they didn't know they had. I wish I had the time to tell some of the stories I've had with folks like Jacob. Taught me things I'll never forget.

So that's a beautiful, wonderful idea.

So, Chris, same question. What was something you wanted to get said today that you didn't get a chance to say? Um, I think we got most of it. The um Yeah, we're just excited, right?

So it's all illustrated. It's beautiful. It's gorgeous. I really want parents to be able to read this to their kids.

So that um so that they they can be the first ones to teach their kids about The biblical truths before somebody else. I'm thinking the end of the thing where you God makes a way where there seems to be no way with the sloth and the cheetah that there's got to be a lesson in that too. Oh, yeah, there's a lot of lessons. There's lessons about speaking out. There's lessons about there's lessons all over this book.

I reread it to my kids' preschool, and the teacher was like, she was calling the next day, like, oh, my word, I thought of another lesson from the book. Like, it's just. It's terrific.

So, yeah, just get on the email list so that you know when it comes out. That's beautiful. And so, Joy, how about you? Was there something you wanted to get said today that you haven't had a chance to say? Yes, Romans 8.28 says that God can work all things to the good of those who love him and are called.

We can't let our experiences in our lives define our journey. We need to turn away from the bad ones and Do things God's way, and He will bless it, and He will bring us through to the ultimate. Final plateau, which is to be in paradise and be in heaven with him.

So that. The thing is don't let our experiences define us. Absolutely. So Mary Sue. I didn't get a chance to get to you yet.

Okay.

I would say that choices Whether they're um with a disabled child like ours or any other circumstance doesn't mean that you have to despair, that you have to live in that. But God said to me when Jacob passed, Choices are made every moment to either despair or or repair. At the foot of the cross, and that's the key. You can't repair without knowing Jesus. And we do have difficulties, everybody does.

And they don't have to define again, like she said, the convenience of having a child in your life or not doesn't define your happiness. You get to choose. To live with what God has given you. And that means sometimes we have to give up a little bit more of ourself. And that's always a good thing.

I agreed. It's so beautiful. I you know I couldn't agree with you more. And and when you think about You know, some of the experiences people like George Whitfield went through are unbelievable if you watch that movie, which I think everybody should, A Great Awakening. You'll see that, oh man, talk about church hurt.

He was booted clear out of the country, not just out of his, you know, of course they started out booting him out of the church. Eventually, they're like, man, you gotta go. But yet, his life made such an impact because all he did was love all those people. Um in so many different ways. It's just absolutely uh mind-blowing what God does, right, if we just keep on loving.

We just and especially to realize That, oh my goodness, he didn't make anything. There isn't one inferior human being. That's right. They. You spend some time and you will find out that, like, oh my gosh, you can learn so much from every single soul.

And David said that in the Psalms. You might even know it's in the meme section of the 119th Psalm. He says, all are my teachers and i thank you guys so much for what you're doing with your books I commend you. I know it's been a journey, and I'm so grateful we could help in any way, shape, or form. Again, the books are Move Off This Mountain: Living Beyond Your Experiences.

It's by Joy Bowser, Chris Bennett's The World's Fastest Sloth, and Ken and Mary Sue Grind's Jacob's Story. He couldn't hear, he couldn't talk, he couldn't walk. but he could change the world. Thank you all so much for listening. Right now, you got so much truth coming at you.

I thank you guys so much for being on with us today. Thank you. Thank you. And God bless you and your journeys.

Now, stay tuned. Encouraging prayers coming up, a special Mother's Day prayer. You don't want to miss that one. It's all coming up on the Truth Network. Stay tuned.

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