Kingdom Pursuits, where you hear from ordinary people instilled with an extraordinary passion. Together we explore the stories of men and women who take what they love and let God turn their passion into Kingdom Pursuits. Now live from the Truth Booth, your host, Robbie Dilmore.
It really doesn't. On the amazing guests, he lines up for Kingdom Pursuits and all the different people with different kinds of passions that leads the wonderful world we get to enjoy, and we have all that for you here today. I'm so glad you're tuned in. First off, we have with us an old friend, actually, Steven Rogers. He's an author of a couple books into the room and a year in the room, and his passion is something a lot of us can relate to, right? Addictions and those kind of things, and a year in the room. It sounds so intriguing, right?
That could be something, Steven, but tell us about it. Well, the concept of the room, into the room and a year in the room, is my view of being evangelical, is it's our job to bring people into the room with God, and then God works out whatever he has to with that person. So the first book, my character steps into the room.
The second one, he spends a year in the room with God. So that's the theory. Yeah, and hopefully years to come, as the case may be.
Hopefully, yes. And since we have the Steve-sy twins today, we have also Steve Frank, who is executive director of the Davie County, North Carolina, which I know if you're in Ohio today, you may not know about Davie County, but I know about it. It's just west of where the station is here in Winston-Salem. We're in Forsyth County.
That's Davie County is the next one west, and they have a big concert coming up called Off the Rails, and it's going to be on June 28th. And Steve, you've got a passion for bluegrass music. Well, I have a passion for music, and the Arts Council has enabled me to really dig in deep and learn all kinds of things, and I will tell you, God has a sense of humor, because I retired about a year and a half ago, and doing anything with the arts other than picking a little guitar was not on my radar. So I tell you, there's definitely a sense of humor. He does get you to level up.
If you think you retired, you actually just re-fired. Exactly. Exactly.
That's exactly what it is. And also, I want to tell you that we have Rabbi Chaim Eisman coming up at the beginning of the second segment, giving you some more with Al Shaddai Ministries, these prophecies being fulfilled in Israel as we speak, especially in these times, as I'm sure you've experienced that. You know, speaking of the room, you know, Nick, yeah.
So, you know, anybody who wants to chime in on these, feel free. Nick, I know you've been studying up, so speaking of the room, what room are zombies not allowed in? What room, you should be able to get this one, Nick.
It's not that hard. What room are zombies not allowed in? It's coming to him. I can see the light bulbs are gone. Have you got it?
What do you think, Stephen? The living room? Correct. He got it.
I knew you'd like that. So what do you call roommates that always clean each other's part of the room? What do you call roommates who always clean each other's part of the room? You're going to send me this one.
I've never had a roommate. I don't know. Yeah, you got it, Stephen? Stephen likes these.
You can see this. This one's made for each other. Yeah, there you go. I like that. Made for each other. So, you probably get this one, Nick.
You haven't got one yet. How much room is needed for fungi to grow? How much room is needed for fungi to grow? And these are a couple fun guys I'm...
I think I'm the stumped chump here. Stephen, what are you thinking? Much room?
That's right, as much room as possible. So, with all that said, you knew I would have a riddle where you could call in and win today at 86634 Truth. And so here's your riddle. What room in the Bible did people go in where going down wasn't an option?
What room in the Bible did people go in where going down wasn't an option? 866-348-7884, 86634 Truth. And if you guessed that, Nick, tell them what they'll win.
Absolutely. Yes, you'll be winning a prize from Arcadia Pursuits Prize Vault. We have a vault full of stuff that's just pouring out. So, another answer to Robbie's riddles, 866-348-7884.
That's 86634 Truth. We have t-shirts. We have bracelets. We have the Kingdom Pursuits official gospel back scratcher. Like, you have to see it. It's got these little beads so you can share the gospel while you're scratching somebody's back. I mean, what a better way to do it? You know, we're supposed to get people into the room, right, Stephen?
Absolutely. You don't have one, but we also have loads and loads of wonderful books. 866-348-7884, what room in the Bible did people go in where going down wasn't an option?
866-348-7884. So, getting back to your new book, Stephen, right? A year in the room.
And so, how fun. Like, where did you go with that? Well, my character, who's an alcoholic, and as you mentioned, I guess my ministry passion is working with alcoholics and families of alcoholics, has just made his first step towards sobriety and his first step to God, and this is about that first year after that. And people in recovery from alcoholism will tell you that first year is the hardest. So, it's how he starts to put his life back together. Every one of my books has a travel component, so I also take him to the island of Iona off of Scotland, which is his pilgrimage island. And he has, I call it a Lieutenant Dan from Forrest Gump, you know, that kind of experience on Iona.
And so, it's the first year of recovery. Does he keep his legs? He does keep his legs, yes.
That's not a spoiler alert, he does keep his legs. But there's some rain and wind involved, how about that? And so, you know, well, we'll go there in a minute. I want to go back to our other Steve. Like you said, it's fascinating to me that you had this desire for art, and again, the Davie County art, it just blows me away that here's this not very significant county, because the largest town in Davie County is Moxville, and that's not Knoxville with a K, this is Moxville with an M. Not many people have heard of Moxville, but that's the county seat in the largest city in Davie County. However, their arts council there for years has had banner shows come in. We have.
December this year, I'm happy to tell you, will be our 50th anniversary. So, 50 years bringing the arts to Davie County. So, we've had a lot of tremendous shows. We're, you know, obviously in the painting and sketching and photography. Oh, you guys have had James Taylor. We have. We recently had a Stevie Wonder show, and they're so into the culture of Stevie Wonder that during the show, he was blind. And he could see after the show, so maybe it was a road to, you know, a maze.
They do. It's one thing after the other. You know, they had Rich Little, you know, the guy that did impressions one year. He came in, but you guys have had just fabulous stuff there at the Brock Center in Davie County. And again, Off the Rails. So, what's Off the Rails? Off the Rails is an electrifying bluegrass band out of Nashville. Their band manager actually lives here in Winston-Salem. And so, it's a group of individuals that are award-winning on the bluegrass chart. So, I think it would be an amazing show coming up.
We're really excited about having it. Daviearts.org. Daviearts.org. Or you can go to Steve Rogers. Steven Rogers.
stevenrogers.com steven-rogers.com steven-rogers.com And there you get his book, steven-rogers.com. So, we'll be right back with a whole lot more King of Pursuits. You're listening to the Truth Network and truthnetwork.com Rabbi Hein Eisen is with us with zionbiblestudies.org And again, it's Rabbi Hein Eisen, zionbiblestudies.org And we're coming with these prophecies and understandings of Scripture as we're actually seeing it in real time. So, Rabbi?
Yes, indeed we are. So, if I can still continue with the travelogue of that very famous tourist from just 1867, Mark Twain. His synopsis of Jerusalem, I must admit, is sobering. I might even say depressing. Rags, wretchedness, poverty, and dirt abound.
Lepers cripple the blind and the idiotic assail you on every hand. Jerusalem is mournful and dreary and lifeless. I would not desire to live here. And of course, I contrast that with the huge blessing, really a blessing beyond words.
That God has blessed me and my wife and our family to live in His Holy City. And beyond just Jerusalem, if I can share with you the synopsis of Mark Twain's visit. Of all the lands there are for dismal scenery, I think Palestine must be the prince. The hills are barren, they are dull of color, they are unpicturesque in shape. The valleys are unsightly deserts fringed with a feeble vegetation that has an expression about it of being sorrowful and despondent. It is a hopeless, dreary, heartbroken land. Palestine sits in sackcloth and ashes. Over it broods the spell of a curse that has withered its fields and fettered its energies.
Any details? Jericho will be a cursed life, a moldering ruin today. Bethlehem and Bethany in their poverty and their humiliation, untenanted by any living creature and unblessed by any feature that is pleasant to the eye. Renowned to Jerusalem itself, the stateliest name in history, has lost all its ancient grandeur and is become a pauper to each. Denoted Sea of Galilee was long ago deserted by the devotees of war and commerce and its borders are a silent wilderness. And the desert places round about them sleep in the hush of a solitude that is inhabited only by birds of prey and skulking foxes. You know, you can't help but wonder, so where were all the people who claimed that they've been there from time immemorial?
And of course this is the point that I feel compelled to stress, and it's not just Mark Twain. They weren't there. They weren't there because they didn't live in the land of Israel. They lived in all the surrounding countries that provided them with far more employment opportunities than the wasteland, the dismal desolation described by Mark Twain. What changed matters, ironically, was the influx of the Jews.
Beginning in the early and accelerated in the mid-19th century, they began to cultivate the wilderness and create employment opportunities. So people flocked the land of Israel from all the surrounding countries. And that was the beginning of an indigenous population that, of course, didn't feel beholden to the ones who had changed the land through God's graces and made it a hospitable land to inhabit.
But getting back to Mark Twain, what he saw. Palestine is desolate and unlovely, and why should it be otherwise? Can the curse of the deity beautify land? Palestine is no more of this workday world. It is sacred to poetry and tradition. It is dreamland. And you know, I must admit that when Mark Twain's words come surging into my consciousness the most, ironically, it's when we get caught in a traffic jam on the superhigh woods of modern Israel.
And I seriously think to myself, what would Mark Twain have to say if he were sitting next to me in the passenger seat? A modern miracle. Something that, again, just over 150 years ago, couldn't possibly have been even imagined.
But then, a miracle, pretty much by definition, is not a consequence of any natural processes that preceded it. It is an act of God. And indeed, in that vein, perhaps the most foundational verse that we should focus upon, and we all know it, because it is from a very familiar psalm, Psalm 147.
Beginning with the words, Hallelujah, for it is good to sing praises unto our God, for it is pleasant and praises comely. The Lord does build Jerusalem. He gathers together the dispersed of Israel, who heals the broken in heart and binds up their wounds. And the second verse, the Lord builds Jerusalem, he gathers together the dispersed of Israel, is establishing a bond. Building up Jerusalem, gathering together the dispersed of Israel, are, if you will, co-requisites.
They happen together. This is what God is doing. This is what we see before our very eyes. What a blessing it is to see these words actualized before our eyes today. Wonderful.
Absolutely beautiful. Rabbi Hein Eisen with ZionBibleStudies.org. ZionBibleStudies.org. Can you imagine, you go to Israel, and you contact Rabbi. He would love to take you on a walking tour, like to walk around Jerusalem.
How fun. How amazing to receive these insights, see the Scriptures come to life. And also be part of, later on, what we'll talk about in Zechariah and Zephaniah 3. Like, oh my goodness, we can be part of those people who are saying, what great things God has done for Israel. God is amazing. You know, I feel compelled, if I may just interject, say, it's a wonderful, wonderful thing when you study the Bible with all your mind.
Much, much better when it's also with all your heart. Best of all, is when you study the Bible, not only with your mind and your heart, but also with your feet. There's no better place to tour the Bible than Jerusalem. We don't tour Jerusalem through the Bible. We tour the Bible through Jerusalem. I've never heard that, but it's absolutely outstanding, Rabbi. What wisdom. God bless.
We will have much more. Yes, Rabbi Chaim Zion. And by the way, I'm still waiting. You know, I thought this was a pretty easy question.
What room in the Bible did people go in where going down was an option? 866. I know you know that. Come on. 866-348-7884.
866-348-7884. Getting back to my friend Steven. When you wrote your new book, A Year in the Room, every time you go on an adventure with God, he surprises you. It's like he says peekaboo to his child. You know how you were trying to get a smile out of this child with a peekaboo? How did he do a peekaboo for you? Well, the peekaboo for me on this book actually was the trip to the island of Iona. Oh, you went?
Oh, yeah. We went. And originally I was thinking I was going to have him walk the Camino Trail. But the problem, not the problem, but there's so many books about the Camino I could come up with nothing new. And what happened was the pastor at our church, I was talking to her about it, and she recommended the Camino. And my wife was working at REI selling hiking boots at the time. And a pastor from downtown Richmond came in and he said he was buying, I mean, she recommended Iona.
I apologize. She recommended Iona. And then this minister came in and he was getting boots to go to Iona.
And my wife sends me a text that says, I think we need to go to Iona. And that was the God-surprising-me moment, was taking him there and learning about that island and what the impact that could have on his life. And it had an impact on my life, too, while we were there. It was great.
And the impact was? Well, for me, it was understanding just the long, long history of the church and how individual events in little places like Iona and big places like Jerusalem have all added up to where we are that the three of us are sitting here today. I mean, that's a super simplification. But that was a big thing I took away from Iona. I mean, Iona's a rock.
We can walk the whole thing in a day. And incredible spiritual things have occurred there. And for those of us who are totally ignorant like me, what incredible spiritual things have happened to Iona?
Two really interesting. One of them, the original settler, I mean, there were people there, but settler was a monk from Ireland, Saint Columba. And while he was there, the legend has it that was where the Book of Kells was actually translated, where they translated from the original, I guess, Greek into Latin for the Bible. And then this is the part that affects me the most is in the late 1930s, there was a Scottish minister named George MacLeod, and he thought the church was losing touch with the common man. And what he did was he started bringing tradesmen to the island in the summers during the Great Depression and new seminary graduates. And they would together work to rebuild the monastery there that Columba had built. And as a result, a faith was developed, and the tradesmen took it back, and the new clergy people actually understood someone besides an academic. And there's still an Iona community.
And people go there, and they work, and they might spend a year there, they might spend a week there, but then they bring it back. And that, to me, was very meaningful. I can see why. I can see why.
And I would imagine over at Davie County, Steve Frank, right? Correct. That in a way, we're all standing on the shoulders of some amazing people, Andrew Brock himself. Exactly.
And some other people that have really done some work. Well, and I think about 50 years ago when they were just getting started and had that vision. And for me, recently, it's been, I've been doing, I call it a communications tour.
So I'm talking to a lot of different individuals that have been around, and the substance and the networking and the connections that are coming out of it. I don't think it's been inspired by what I'm doing. I think it's been being inspired by what, you know, God has taught us. Oh, what a way to worship.
Right. It's through music and through art, and, you know, God uses those creatives. He's a pretty creative God. So he likes creativity, like authors and stuff, and just saying.
Anyway, we'll be right back with a whole lot more. Now, come on, what room in the Bible did people go to? You're listening to The Truth Network and TruthNetwork.com. Welcome back to Kingdom Pursuits, where we hear how God takes your passion and uses it to build the kingdom. And so blessed today to have with us Steve Frank with the Davie County Arts Council and their big concert coming up June 28th. If you happen to be, you know, somewhere within driving distance of Winston-Salem, you'll certainly be in driving distance of this at the Brock Center in Davie County in Mocksville.
It's off the rails, and it's coming up June 28th at 730 p.m. We're guessing it'll be kind of uncomfortable coming in that early in the morning. We've got Steven Rogers. He's the author in which it's steven-rogers.com in order to get the books into the room.
But they're also on Amazon and all the other stuff, too. Absolutely. Into the room and a year in the room. And so, you know, one of the original reasons I felt God prompt me to do this kind of show, the show's been on the air for a lot of years, is that originally, you know, I was just obedient. He told me, Robby, I want you to get on the radio, which seemed like a crazy idea to me.
I mean, crazy. And I was just obedient. I just said, okay, if that's what you want me to do, it makes no sense.
But I did. And as it did, God took me on this adventure like I never dreamed I would ever go on that still blows me away to this minute. How has he done that with your journey of being an author? Well, it's a great question.
And I'll make this as succinct as possible. I have no alcohol issues. However, in my life, I'm surrounded by alcoholics and addicts. Unbeknownst to me, I was carrying a lump of unbelievable anger and resentment and guilt and everything towards those people. And I ended up writing the first book about the alcoholic as a result of a trip to Israel. And I was getting ready to speak about it one day and I realized I didn't have that lump anymore. So writing the book taught me to forgive them.
Wow. And it completely changed my spiritual journey with God. I was in a stalled place in my spiritual journey, you know, kind of like just bumping along and everything just kind of went forward from there. And the second book focuses on a lot of things, you know, a year in the room. But there was that step where I had to forgive myself as well for all those feelings and that I flushed that out in the second book. So they're basically two big fat journal entries that I was fortunate enough to have published. That's about powerful.
I would not have seen that one coming at all that, yeah, as you essentially, you know, walked a mile in their moccasins, you know, then all of a sudden you got to see that in a whole new light and that's really quite a story. Interestingly, before I started the faith-based writing, I was trying to be Stephen King. So I'm strangling people, I'm serial killers, and I realized I'll just try to work that anger out that way with those short stories and things I was writing.
So thank God I stumbled on this book or I'd still be writing that stuff. All right. Well, we got – we're trying to get a caller in on, you know, what room in the Bible, but while he's working on getting that solid down. Oh, we got Mike in Holy Toledo, Ohio. Mike, you are on Kingdom Pursuits.
Yes, sir. So what room in the Bible did people go in where going down wasn't an option? I'd have to say the upper room.
Great answer, Mike. You have your choice of gifts in the Kingdom Pursuits prize vault, but yeah, it is hard to go down when you go into the upper room. Even if you actually go there in Israel, there are stairs, man.
You can't go down. I'd love to go there. I'd love to go to the upper room someday. Well, we all will. I assure you there's a New Jerusalem, and I promise you there's going to be an upper, upper room.
I'm looking forward to it. Thank you, Mike. I'm so grateful for your call today. You're doing good? I am doing great. Sunshine in here in Holy Toledo.
It's a beautiful day. That's wonderful, wonderful. God bless you, Mike.
Thanks so much for calling. You bet. Bye-bye. All right, so getting back to Davey County and our connector, Steve Frank. You know, and again, because my dealership was in Mocksville, and that was my original connection. You and I have talked about that. And so I have been meeting at the Brock Center with the Christian Businessmen's Committee for literally almost, at this point in time, 20 some odd years.
But the committee started probably, you know, 24 or five years ago. We didn't always meet there. We used to meet at the Rotary Hut, is what it was called, but anyway. I'm just fascinated that you were going to retire. And so why after you retire would you take this particular, I mean, it just doesn't seem like it would have been your line of work.
It wasn't. I retired, and then when the hurricane hit, I did a lot of work out in western North Carolina with Samaritan's Purse. Great organization, well organized. So I was happy and content being in my little wood shop, and my wife is a member of the board of directors.
And then in February we had a long-term, long-tenured executive director resign. And it felt like a calling to step in for a little bit to, you know, just cover the gap. And it's worked out. It's not just covering the gap.
It's going to extend out. And so all of that management piece that I've had over the years, all of my first career was in anesthesia, so a lot of care and compassion. And it just seemed like everything was coming together to help pull, you know, help pull and help lead the organization in a little bit different direction. So I've been amazed. And I think that, you know, people should know that the beauty of having an arts council in your community, whatever community that might be, is, you know, their children are involved with a lot of these plays. I've been exposed to, we have a local playwright who's written a musical that we're going to present. We have a 485-seat theater that is a gem on the East Coast.
Oh, it is. It is a tremendous presentation performing arts center. It's got that, plus, you know, regular art. There's paintings. There's all sorts of different things they do there.
It's just a miraculous advantage to the community. Again, it's Davyarts.org. We have businesses that are donating wall space. So I may not walk into a gallery, but I walk in to get a cup of coffee or have lunch, and there's pictures, paintings, photos that are all being, highlighting local artists. And that's the piece I really like. I love the stories behind all of the artists involved in it. And since we've been meeting there for many, many, many years, God has blessed it. It's such a wonderful place to come every week, and you feel God's presence. And I think if you have a chance to come visit for one of these events that they do, you'll be blessed. Well, you've been a blessing to the Arts Council and to me personally, so I appreciate that, you know, God bringing us together. Yeah, it's all about connections.
And it really, really is in so many different ways, connecting with God, connecting with people. So getting back to Steven Rogers and this journey that I – we've talked a few times, I thought, and I don't – I never got the picture you just shared with me. Huh, okay. That, oh my goodness, again, if God's telling you to write a book or do a song or write a movie, if you feel that calling or go be the – this is the – man, you will go on an adventure, you'll go to Iona.
Like, who knew? And have these experiences. But also, you spoke to the idea of unforgiveness, right?
And so maybe you've got somebody in your life that is a alcoholic that you're struggling with, right? What a great idea to pick up this book. Maybe you can take the journey that Steven took. It's called Into the Room, right? Yeah. And so as you live the life with – what's your main character's name? Ben, Ben Cahill.
Ben. He's probably gentle, I'm just guessing. Anyway – It depends whether he's drinking or not. Yeah, I'll bet.
I'll bet. So as you get into the room with Ben, you might have some insight into that disease. And, you know, people don't ask for disease like cancer, right? Well, alcohol is the disease that gets no chicken soup.
People aren't coming to your house. Yeah, exactly. So, you know, it's an amazing thing to be able to relate to the fact that, you know, hey, they're afflicted. Anyway, we'll be right back with a little bit more from Steven Rogers, Into the Room, and Steve Frank with David County Arts. We'll be right back.
You're listening to the Truth Network and truthnetwork.com. Welcome back to Kingdom Pursuits, where we hear how God takes your passion and uses that to build the kingdom. And we have, again, poster children for that idea today, as we have Steve Frank with David County Arts and Steve Rogers. He's the author of Into the Room and A Year in the Room, which, again, is a fascinating study that, you know, usually you go, you know, 2 Corinthians 1, you know, the God of all comfort comforts us where, you know, we've been comforted that we may be a comforter to others, right? And so you would think that Steve's story, as you begin to listen to him, so obviously he was an alcoholic.
He was at the point where he did not know how to forgive an alcoholic. So God gave him this passion, fascinatingly, in order to be comforted with a comfort that you now can be comforted with. As I listen to this, I see a new angle to it that what a journey for you if you have this in your life of understanding it a little bit more from the other person's perspective. But along those lines, you know, what I was thinking is I interviewed the Small Bone Brothers, which are king and country. And I asked them about the creative process. And right during the break, we both were talking, we were all talking about the creative process and how amazing it is that God gives you, you know, this passion and whatever. So I asked them, you know, when you guys are coming up with these amazing songs, you know, how do you get the inspiration? And what they told me, and it's worth repeating, and I would love you to comment on either or one of you want, and what they said was, our songs, we don't choose our songs, our songs choose us. That they were crossing, like you were saying, they were crossing the street and all of a sudden here comes this song.
Or, you know, that's the genre. Like, while you're sitting there working on that table, all of a sudden you're given this idea of how to shape it or how you're supposed to put the braces on it or whatever it is that you're doing. And so he gave you this, and then you seem to have the joy of working within the idea he gave you. And not only what am I going to do with it, but where is it going to be used? You know, where are the things that I'm working on going to be used? And that's been a blessing and a real eye-opener for me because I thought I'd just hang out in the wood shop and do some things for the family.
That part was never part of my plan, and to all things in God's time. Because, you know, we all in our own way are artists, right? And so what were you going to say, Stephen? Well, we are all artists in our own way. And my idea for the first book came when my wife dragged me on our first trip to Israel.
I mean, that's the only way to describe it. She dragged me by the ear, so to speak. And I got the idea on the flight over. I wonder if I was an alcoholic just released from rehab. What airline did you fly?
I think that one was American, I think. So you're on the way to Israel. Yep, and I had the idea. And you're at 40,000 feet, pretty close to God at that point. Certainly closer than here. In the one situation where you go down to go up.
Yeah, exactly. You're fixed to go to the Dead Sea, the lowest place on the earth. And then, you know, next thing you know, you're up there, and God gives you this inspiration.
And what you had said at one point in time in this discussion was that those books are more like journals. Well, fascinatingly, I was flying to Sweden on my way actually to, at one point, Russia on the same trip. And I'm up there flying, and I was a baby Christian. This probably hadn't been in Christ two years, and clearly God spoke to me and said, Robbie, I want you to write down all your adventures with me. And I took some paper that was on the plane and began to write and have written ever since. And those journals that I have to this day are unbelievably my journey through cancer, my journey through a brain abscess, my journey through losing the dealership, my journey through all those tests and trials and forging of my faith or all those things. You know, if I ever wondered, does God love you, I can go back and I can show you.
Because what he asked me to do at 40,000 feet. Is still helping you today. Oh my gosh. And I would imagine that you hear from people from all over the world on your book and how your books impacted their lives. I mean, I don't have quite that broad a reach, but I do. Well, I own it. The nicest comment I ever got, and actually the guy was in Richmond, so he was local, but with a year in the room after he read it, he said, I actually think I'm a better man because I read this book.
That's awesome. And after that, as far as I'm concerned, the book's successful. That was just a beautiful statement. You just got one, but God's got, and we'll never know, the sign of heaven. When we get to heaven, you know, then, man, I got this table from you, Steve, that you did, and you don't know that, you know, God blessed that. Well, and I think the teachers, the writers that never hear from anybody until way late in life and the impact that they've had on that individual's life. Which speaks to something I say on the show quite often, that if you go get this book on Amazon right into the room or a year in the room, please rate the book, even if you hate it. Rate it. Authors love feedback.
They do, and it's right there, and it's available. So I hate that we're out of time, but it's been an absolute blast. Again, Davey County Arts, it's Daveyarts.org, and Steve, Steven, Steven-Rogers into the room, right? Or Steven-Rogers.com.
You can get those books or just go to Amazon into the room or a year in the room, however that works. Thank you, guys. Thank you, Robert. Thanks for having us. It's been so fun. Now you've got to stay tuned, because we've got so much truth coming at you. Our Encouraging Prayer with James Banks is one of the neatest shows on the radio, followed by Mike Zwick, if not for God, and then it's time to man up with the key to call off.
