11.15,6.23 - JR SportBrief Hour 2

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It's going to warm your soul. It's a top six list of things that I'm thankful for, particularly in the world of sports. Here in what year are we in? 2023. Getting ready to look 2024 right in the face, but we'll talk about that later.

Top six list coming in an hour. In about 15, 20 minutes or so from now, we're going to have a conversation with someone who is ridiculously, ridiculously qualified to talk about sports from a management perspective. Because he was the GM president for the Blazers and the Seahawks and the Seattle Supersonics. Bob Whitsitt is going to come through and join us. I'm going to ask him about Draymond and then I want to get his thoughts on, you know, some of the issues going on in sports like relocation.

I want to ask when the damn Supersonics are going to be back up in Seattle. And so we got a lot to talk about. Bob Whitsitt has a book out right now. It's called Game Changer and we'll learn all about it.

It's great timing with all of the business things going on in the world of sports. And if you've listened to the first hour of the show, we've done a lot of talking about Draymond Green. A lot. I do want to talk about Deshaun Watson as well. We got a lot of people on the phone lines right now. Shep, should I get to the calls, talk to Bob, or should we talk about Deshaun Watson now?

What do you think? I would get to the calls. Well, I do what Shep says. He's a producer. Thank you. Harold is calling from Houston. You're on CBS Sports Radio. What's up, Harold? Hey, man. Everything good, J.R.?

Man, I enjoy your show. Man, I just want to throw some names out there. Man, for Mr. Draymond Green, you know, Lonnie Shelton, Maurice Lucas, Charles Oakley, Charles Barkley, Lambeard, any two ways Draymond played in the old... You said puppies, right? I think you said puppies.

I hope you said puppies. John is calling from South Carolina. You're on CBS Sports Radio. What's up, John?

I love your music, man. Which one? The Ghetto Boys? The stuff before the last break. The Ghetto Boys, I guess?

I love them, too. What's up? Hey, Draymond Green. Get him up against, you know, any MMA guy, a professional about his size, and they made a movie about what would happen, you know, down and out in Beverly Hills, because that would put him down and up for sure.

Yeah, Brock Lesnar would tear him up, yeah. I'm Deshaun. You know, I'm the guy that called up and said the Browns made a deal with Darkside, and like the Women's Revenge, so they got that going.

So you're saying... You're saying this is Women's Revenge? What's happening to Deshaun Watson? They're a karma man.

Karma for who? The Browns are for him, because he's still getting paid. Yeah, but the Browns.

That's what I'm talking about. I was never a fan at the time. I just hoped. Let's be real, John. The Browns have been punished almost for an eternity before they even got there. Yeah, I'm a fan since I was born in 53.

Tell me all about it. But anyhow, what about the rookie starting? They're 6-3. You're kind of telling the defense, you know, we're giving up maybe on the season.

I know they can always bring TK back in, and I'm hoping they have to play in the picture because it looked good, not just the wide assortment. What do you think about that concept? What, to run Dorian Thompson Robinson out there? Yeah. I gotta be honest with you, man. I don't care. Like, Deshaun Watson went out.

You want to know the first thing that I said to myself? I said, I ain't watching no more Browns games for the rest of the year. I'm not watching. I don't care. Like, there's no reason for me to watch. Like, obviously, I don't know what's going on because I gotta talk about it. I need to be in the know.

It's part of my job to know what the hell is going on. But I don't care. They could run PJ Walker out there. They could run you out there at quarterback. The Cleveland Browns are cooked for the season.

I'm not worried about them. Well, I'm just worried about Miles Garrett's chance to be defensive player of the year now. Well, listen, man, what does he lead the league in sacks? We got like 11 now, 11 and a half something, give or take.

He's number one. I mean, Yeah. Well, John, you worry about that. All I know is when I know the Browns ain't sniffing the AFC North title anymore. They have not a chance in hell to do anything in the postseason. And I got no interest outside of oh my God, what is the defense going to do to keep them into games?

And if they should be so lucky, maybe there'll be some highlights on the offense. But that's they're done, man. The Browns are finished. It's nothing else. A matter of fact, they're so done.

Like, yeah, I'm not watching them for what? They were on the up and up. Deshaun Watson was on the up and up.

He finally looked like he was getting back and rounding into form. And now the man got a broken bone in the shoulder. Like, well, what's that going to do? Matter of fact, Deshaun Watson, he spoke today, said he was surprised about the extent of the injury.

Listen to Deshaun. Very painful. The whole second half was painful to throw a football. You know, it's a, you know, a bone that's fractured in my shoulder. So no type of medicine or anything is going to stop the pain from that. But it's just frustrating all around, just not being able to play and just the injuries. Yeah, it was reported that he was ready to just get shot up with Toradol, I guess, and go out there and play. And they're like, no, bro, like, you can further damage the broken bone in your shoulder already.

You don't want to do that. And then he's only already dealing with a high ankle sprain. So he's counting all of his $230 million while his leg is busted up and so is his shoulder. I'm not going to wish negativity on the dude.

Get well soon. But yeah, this ain't looking all that good for the Browns. They handed him a guaranteed contract, $230 million. And we know about the suspension from last year, missed 11 games, came back, had to try to play into shape. The Browns went 7-10.

And now he's back. They're 6-3. And he's going to miss the rest of the year. Find me somebody in San Diego who's excited about the Browns. Find me somebody in Houston who says, oh my God, I now have to watch the Browns now that DeSean is out.

People don't care. People in Cleveland care. But ain't nobody rushing to see the Browns. 8-5-5, 2-1-2 for CBS.

8-5-5, 2-1-2 for CBS. Andrew Berry, his own GM for the Browns. He feels bad about this situation himself.

Listen. We are very disappointed and devastated for DeSean, especially given all that he has battled and gone through medically this season, and especially in light of how well he's played since his most recent injury. Yeah. I mean, you're already dealing with a shoulder injury. Now you got a broken bone in there.

And he played. Don't tell anybody these NFL players ain't tough, man. Come on. 8-5-5, 2-1-2 for CBS.

8-5-5, 2-1-2 for CBS. John is here from Charlotte. You're on the JR Sportbrief show. Hey, I'm here. Yeah, you're live on the radio.

What's up? All right. Yeah, it's kind of a question about like a Hall of Famer status. Now since Cam's probably the greatest running quarterback we've ever really seen, you think he would be able to get in the Hall of Fame even though he didn't really have that long of a career or win the big one?

Hold on a second. Do you do you think it is without a debate that Cam Newton is the best running quarterback that we've ever seen? Well, I mean just in the amount of time if you when he was active healthy and everything. Not even really any running backs had as many rushing touchdowns as he did. He was a quarterback. He was a quarterback bulldozer. I don't know if I'd say that he was the best running quarterback of all time.

I think a Warren Moon might have a word with you. I think Michael Vick would definitely like to have a word with you. But to answer your question about Cam Newton the Hall of Fame. No, I don't think he's going to change the game though. I mean look at now we got like Josh Allen and all these big quarterbacks coming in. John, I don't think Cam Newton changed the game.

No. You really think we'd have defensive ends at quarterback if it wasn't for him though? Have you seen the guy who preceded him? There's some dude named Dante Culpepper. Okay, what defensive end?

You couldn't really put Culpepper with Cam though. No, no, you're talking about. No, no, stop. You're telling me about size. I assume that's why you said defensive end.

Dante Culpepper was big as hell. Listen, John, hold on. John, I don't want to hang up on you.

I want to talk to you. You're looking at this from some very panthers colored glasses. Okay, Cam Newton did very well. An MVP, a few Pro Bowls, went to a Super Bowl, was afraid to fall on a fumble, and then his style of play being a battering ram caused him to be hurt and ended his career. That's just flat what it is. I kind of feel like there's more to GM that kind of calls that though, don't you think?

No, no, it don't matter who, what. Look, the man got hurt because of his style of play. I'll tell you this.

I agree with you on that. Like he was basically the whole running game for most of his career. Yes, he was, but he ain't no hall of famer, okay? And he also didn't change the game. Damn.

Thank you for the Homerism, but no thank you. Who am I going to come up now? Cam Newton changed the game. How? Please tell me. Since he went to the Super Bowl, what have we seen that has just really changed things around? Him specifically. Help me out. Where's the Steph Curry effect from Cam Newton that we didn't see?

I don't know. Yeah, he was bigger than everybody. He was a battering ram, but what type of things that make me want to smoke? I feel like Josh Allen now.

Just sign all over the damn place. 855-212-4CBS, Robert is here from New Orleans. Yeah, man. I just want to ask you what kind of, who do you think the leading Kennedy is right now to receive the highest finish here? I would probably go with Pennix right now. I think Caleb Williams has fallen out of number one, especially not being able to go to a bowl game. And so I'd say he's probably going to go to a bowl game.

And so I'd say he's probably at the top. Okay. Well, thank you, Robert. That was pretty clear.

That was an easier conversation. And tell him about Cam Newton. John is calling from Buffalo. John, you're live on the radio.

John got abducted by aliens. David's calling from San Diego. What's up, David? Hey, how are you tonight? I'm amazing. How are you? I like the energy. What's up?

Hey, I'm doing great. And I can tell you, I'm not a Browns fan, but I'm not against them either. But I kind of feel like maybe a little bit of an aura came off of the Browns. They made a huge blunder by signing this guy to like this, it might as well be a billion dollar contract.

And he hadn't proven himself. He had to time out all the drama behind him. And now this, maybe the second stringer will come in there and light fire like Tom Brady did against the Chargers way back in the day and become the next Tom Brady. Who knows? I kind of feel like the Browns have the aura of the Chargers, just like bad things follow them.

Dean Spano. Oh, everything. You know, it's just all black. Okay, all right.

Is that it? But and about Draymond, Draymond, how about a whole team? Come at this guy. Somebody's something that my teammates throat.

Me as a teammate, I'm coming off the bench. Yeah, they get fined for that and suspended too. Yeah, but I mean, doesn't the owners pay for that?

I mean, I'm pretty sure I was an owner and a billionaire and if my guy, my whole team came off to put this guy down, make him stop doing it. All right, well, let me know when the billionaire does that. Okay, David. Okay, have a good night. All right, you too.

Thank you for calling from San Diego. No, a billionaire ain't paying no millionaire's fines for stepping off the bench. And how do you think they became a billionaire? By paying bills? No. Paying for other people's problems? No.

Wrong. It's the JR Sport Reshow here with you on CBS Sports Radio. When we come back, we're going to talk to someone who has experience dealing with billionaires. He used to work for Paul Allen of Microsoft. Paul Allen, who bought the Blazers. Paul Allen, who bought the Seahawks.

We're going to have a conversation with Bob Whitsitt. He was the general manager. He was the president of the Seattle SuperSonics. He ran the Blazers, did the same thing for the Seattle Seahawks. He has a book out called Game Changers.

And I want to learn why he's releasing this book. I'm going to ask him about Draymond. I'm going to ask him about sports and relocation. Somebody asked me on the show earlier this week, do owners even care about the fans?

I'm going to ask Bob that question. He used to work for a billionaire running these teams. Bob Whitsitt, executive on the other side of the break, is the JR Sport Reshow, CBS Sports Radio. You're listening to the JR Sport Brief on CBS Sports Radio. You're listening to the JR Sport Brief on CBS Sports Radio. It's the JR Sport Reshow here with you on CBS Sports Radio with so much going on in the NBA and the world of sports in the middle of the football season, the start of the basketball season.

We have to bring on someone qualified to talk about both. He has a book out right now. It's called Game Changer. This is Bob Whitsitt. This man ran president GM of the Portland Trailblazers, the Seattle SuperSonics, Seattle Seahawks. Bob has done it all. Bob, welcome to CBS Sports Radio, the JR Sport Brief Show. Thanks, JR. Happy to be here.

Happy to have you. Before we get into the book, your tenure with the Seahawks and the Blazers and also the SuperSonics, man, basketball, what the hell are your thoughts on what took place last night with Draymond Green? I mean, what's the deal? He has to be suspended a whole lot of games. Well, I have a lot of thoughts.

First, I'll start from the one side. I love players that play with passion and energy. Although it's still pretty early in the season, I think it's one of the deepest leagues I've seen in a long time. There's a lot of talent, a lot of teams that think they have a chance to win it all. Although we're only about 10 games in, teams are already getting a little chippy. But to answer your question, my view is he crossed the line. And he's always been a guy who takes it up to the line and probably steps over. But if I was the commissioner, if I was Joe Dumars today, without knowing everything else, but just watching the game in the clips last night, my sense is he'll probably be on vacation for a few games. Rightfully so, by the way. I mean, you can't go around putting people in WWF moves from the 80s.

Not gonna work. Bob Whitsitt is here with us, the chair of Sportbreeze Show on CBS Sports Radio. I know people in the Pacific Northwest very familiar with you, from your time with the Blazers, the Supersonics, and the Seahawks. You drafted Gary Payton.

You brought in Sean Kemp. You put together those teams that ended up going to the finals. And then also the Portland Trail Blazers team that went to the Western Conference Finals. You went to the playoffs, what, 16 out of 17 years, correct? Yeah, we had some great runs, both in Seattle and in Portland. And both those teams that, when we finally got them built, they were both championship caliber teams. Both came very close.

And both have left me a little bit of an ulcer scar from the standpoint. We didn't get it done. I think we should have won a championship in Seattle. And I think we should have won a championship in Portland.

But you can only have one champion. And sometimes getting close is a lot more painful than being miles away. But as I tell anybody in sports, I'd rather get really close and lose than to never even get close to tasting it. So great teams, great fans, a lot of fun. And proud of those teams. Bob, you Bob, you continue to be active in the sports world from consulting to business, media, arena deals and the like. You helped the Seahawks and helped convince Paul Allen to get involved there. And also build the new Quest Stadium that was exist at that point. What was that transition like for moving from a basketball space to now doing football?

That was actually both a lot of fun and extremely challenging. At the time, I was the president general manager of the Portland Trailblazers had no interest in getting involved with another team, nor did Paul Allen. But it was a simple matter of the Seattle Seahawks had moved to Los Angeles and the league was in an uproar.

The community was in an uproar. Everybody was trying to figure out a way to keep the Seahawks in Seattle. And it's probably the most important chapter in my book, in terms of how we saved it for Seattle. But at the end of the day, when we got through all the cleared all the hurdles and got everything done that we had to get done, Paul insisted that I also become the president of the Seahawks. And I told him, running your team in Portland is enough. But I think because of our working relationship and his desire not to have a lot of people reporting to him, one of the conditions he placed on it was, you have to run the Seahawks. At the same time, you're running the Trailblazers, two teams, two different cities. Obviously, the NFL is different than the NBA, but it was probably too much, but I'm glad we were able to do it. I'm glad we got it done. And so excited that the Seahawks have stayed in the Pacific Northwest. I want to get back to your thoughts on some of the relocation elements currently in professional sports.

Bob Whitsitt is joining us here, CBS Sports Radio, the book Game Changer. Why now? So many experiences, you're still very active in the space. Why did you want to release this book now? I've always been telling stories and giving speeches, and people are always telling me you need to write a book. I really didn't have the desire or the time. But I just completed law school, which is a different story for a different question. And I was used to working long academic hours.

And I thought, what a great time since I'm used to putting in the academic days, if you will. Why not tell some of the stories now? And I wanted the book to be more than just NBA and NFL stories. I wanted to include things like how do you get a job in professional sports? What does a GM really do? I wanted the inside the front office look, you know, how do you make a trade? How do you hire a coach? What's the dynamic with the GM, the owner, the coach? Put some things in there, some lessons, probably one of my favorite chapters is a chapter on how to negotiate.

And every tip I give on how to negotiate is backed up by real life stories, whether I'm negotiating a player contract, I'm negotiating a player trade. So it's a little bit of something for everybody, including, you know, 16 pages of pictures, which I think any sports book should have some pictures. So it's just a little bit of a, if you're a sports fan, you'll love it. If you want to get into the business, you'll like it. I've had a lot of people who really aren't sports fans, but they liked it for different reasons. So it's an easy, fun read. I feel really good about it. And people inside the business and outside the business have given me some really good feedback. So I just thought it was the right time.

If not now, I guess when would be the question. The book is called Game Changer by Bob Witsitt. It's the JR Sportbree show here on CBS Sports Radio.

You have so many, well, that's why you have a book, so many experiences that you're able to share. And unfortunately, relocation has always been a part of professional sports. Right now, it's a huge story as we see franchises and teams going out to Vegas.

And we know the Seattle Supersonics. I don't think there was more of a published relocation than them moving down to Oklahoma City. What are your thoughts on relocation and sports? Someone actually called earlier this week and said, do the owners care about us, the fans, or are we just numbers? What are your thoughts there? And when are we going to see those Supersonics back up in Seattle? Well, that's a loaded question.

And I don't want to sound like a hypocrite. But I start with I do not like to see franchises relocate. I think having tradition, history, loyal fan bases, rivalries, that's what it's all about. And I think it's incumbent upon the ownership and the management to build a quality product that a community will want to support. In the rare cases when things are being done right, and you can't get the community support, it still is a business.

And if you check a lot of boxes, and the league agrees with you, in those rare, rare, rare occasions, I think it's probably the right thing to move. And full disclosure, I was a point man for leading a relocation of the Kansas City Kings in 1985 to Sacramento. It hurt me to be a part of that. We gave it every shot we could in Kansas City. But on the flip side, it's become a very, very well supported franchise in Sacramento. In terms of Seattle, it hurt me immensely to watch the Sonics go. It was a gut shot. It was a blow to the fans.

It was a blow to our community. But I'm very, very optimistic that there's a hopefully a possibility in the near term, that the league will consider expansion I'm very public in saying I'll do everything I can to be a part of bringing the team back to Seattle. I'd be proud to be a part of ownership. I could be part of management.

If they ask me to sell popcorn, I'll do that. And if there's no role for me, I'll be the first guy to buy season tickets because Seattle deserves a team. We want to get a team back. And I've always been bullish on the NBA. I think it's the most exciting sports league out there.

And I can't wait to see it return to Seattle. Well, Bob, I gotta get a basketball question in here. What did you see in Shawn Kemp that made you say, I want to go ahead and take a chance on this dude? I was a young, young general manager, I was just 30 years old. And as I was learning the business, I watched a lot of the older GMs. Some did really good jobs, some didn't, but they all sort of had this armchair quarterback mentality. They always looked at backwards and they re-wrote history. Oh, I wanted to draft that guy.

I wanted to do that. And they always pointed to the great deals. But the one guy I got to know a little bit was Red Auerbach. And Red would always swing for the fences. He struck out a lot.

But when he hit, they were big. He took Larry Bird as a junior eligible. He traded a number one pick for what turned out to be Robert Parrish and Kevin McHale. He drafted a baseball player named Danny Ainge who would never play in the NBA. These were all these were all decade-long deals that led to championships. So when I saw Shawn Kemp playing, I saw this guy that in my mind was a combination of Charles Barkley and Dominique Wilkins.

He was a powerful guy, but he could jump out of the building. And he'd been away from the game for a year. He'd never played in college. And I kept thinking, well, you know, if this guy went to college, played two or three years, he'd be a top one, two or three pick in the draft. I had multiple picks that year. And I thought, I'm going to get a high lottery pick for a 16th or 17th pick in the draft.

And if he becomes the kind of player I think he can become, it's a Red Auerbach move. So I was 100% convinced this was the guy to take. The challenges I had were primarily the ownership. The coaching staff was on board pretty soon because I took them to a game, an AAU game, and they got to see Shawn.

And they were excited. And as long as I drafted the point guard they wanted to help the team immediately, I could use the other pick to take the future hopeful in Shawn. But it took a long time to get ownership on board because they'd never heard of the guy.

He would never sell tickets. Nobody was drafting players who hadn't played in college. I think it'd been 14 years since we had a guy go from high school to the pros. So it was a very unusual challenge.

And that was the hard part. And, you know, if it didn't pan out, you wouldn't be talking to me today because my career would have been maybe a one or two year career and then I would have been out. So thank goodness Shawn turned out to be a great player. And I think he paved the way for other superstars coming straight from high school guys like Kevin Garnett, Kobe Bryant, LeBron James.

I'm not sure a lot of those guys would have come straight out. They probably would have gone to college for a couple years had Shawn fizzled. So kudos to Shawn. You know, players make you successful. And Shawn helped make me successful. Bob Whitsitt is here with CBS Sports Radio, the JR Sport Reshow.

The book is called Game Changer. With all of your experience, this is going to be my final question here. What is the biggest challenge in running and operating a team in both the NFL and the NBA side? We know there's some similarities, differences when it comes to the salary cap, etc. But what are some of those unique challenges in each league?

I think there's two things. One is probably hiring the right coach and coaching staff to develop and coach the type of team you're building. But I think the greater challenge is to build a championship caliber team, meaning what kind of style are you building? Are you making the right draft picks? Are you making the right trades? Are you signing the right free agents?

And are you managing the salary cap? Because, especially in the NBA today, with the second apron, which can take away, you know, draft picks and different things that can make you a good team, you can't make these mistakes anymore. They're too costly financially, they're too costly financially, and they're too punitive in terms of your player building and your roster construction. So I think having the right people on board, hiring the right scouts, the right coaches, having the right eye, the right analytics, you can't be missing on draft picks.

When there's Hall of Fame players on the board, and you whiff and take somebody else, it puts your franchise back 10 years. So I think roster management, the construction of the team, salary cap management, building a staff and a coaching staff and a scouting staff, and having fewer misses, and having many more hits is the key. So it's probably the hardest thing for owners, because they don't know how to hire management, because they don't really know what they're looking for. It's a very unusual, difficult thing to do. So that would be the area I think that is probably the most challenging. All owners are committed to winning, they'll all spend the money, but they really don't know how to, they don't really know how to get the right race car and the right race car drivers, but they'll spend the money on it, they just don't know what the right pieces are.

And that's kind of the challenge. So you've had the experience and a high level of success from the Supersonics down to the Blazers and the Seahawks. Bob, tell everybody where they can go ahead and get the Game Changers book.

Game Changers is available now, you can get it on Amazon, you can get it on Barnes and Noble, it's probably available in many retail bookstores, but the easiest way is just to go online and look up Game Changer, an insider's story to the Sonics, Resurgence, the Trailblazers turnaround, and the deal that saved the Seahawks. So I think it'll be a fun read for everybody. Hey Bob, thank you for coming through and sharing your perspective, man.

It's certainly a unique one. Thank you, JR. No doubt about it, we've been chatting it up with Bob Whitsitt. It's the JR Sport Reshow on CBS Sports Radio. I just want to say thank you for being on this show and giving me some good content every time I leave my girlfriend's house, giving me some time to chill, relax, and listen to some good sports news.

Call in now at 855-212-4CBS. The JR Sport Reshow here with you on CBS Sports Radio. Thank you so much to Bob Whitsitt for joining us here on the other side of the break, or last break I should say. Kind of give us an in-depth perspective on what it means to to run a franchise, run a team, and that's something that he did.

Blazers, Supersonics, Seahawks. It's an interesting business. There are very few people who do this. Run teams, run organizations, let alone run two different teams and then run a completely different sport. It's a real unique perspective. Go check out the book Game Changer. At the top of the hour, I'm not changing the game. I'm just going to deliver to you a new top six list.

I'm going to tell you what I'm thankful for here in 2023 because I won't have an opportunity to do it with you next week. We do have some callers who have been waiting patiently, patiently on the phone line. So let's go ahead and talk to them and I'll share with you this top six list at the top of the hour. It's 855-212-4CBS.

That's 855-212-4CBS. Let's go ahead and get to John. He's calling from Portland. You're on CBS Sports Radio. What's up, John? Hey, what's up JR?

Thanks for taking my call. So I just want to talk about drama. I'm kind of at the point where I'm just just sick of seeing it, you know. I respect the player with some energy and all that, but at this point it's like it's five games enough, you know.

Is this going to stop? And you know it's just it's just something that I'm sick of seeing. I think it makes the league look bad and I think it's about time that they start getting a little more uh a little more strict with uh with him especially just to, you know, not necessarily make an example out of him but just show that this is something that you know the NBA won't stand for, you know? Yeah, I don't think anything's ever going to happen with Draymond. I mean he is who he is. I mean even following the the suspension in the NBA Finals and even in subsequent years Draymond has been very clear he's not going to change the way he plays.

And I guess that also includes being dirty, man. Like the man is going to be 34 years old. By the time this season is done he's going to be 34.

If he hasn't already learned a thing or two or three or four about not behaving like a complete jackass with the extracurriculars, when is he going to learn? He's at the end of the line here when it comes to his career and he's still acting wild. That's exactly what I'm saying man and then like I said you know you look at the replay and I get it like if you're going to say that you're defending your your teammate I'm all for that but you look at the replay Gopair wasn't trying to do nothing but just to split him apart and for him to go in and and choke hold a guy you know it's just it just looks really bad for me it's kind of one of those things that um it makes me not even watch want to watch the Warriors play anymore as much as I give them respect and props for being a great team at this point it's one of those things that just gives me a practice in my mouth and you know like I said I'm just sick of seeing the man and I hope that I hope that eventually the NBA might try to put the set a better example but at this point you know I think you're right I don't think he's gonna learn I think he's gonna go out doing it um his own way which is just unfortunate you know because like I said I respect him he's a great player but this is that dirty side is just not fun to watch. Yeah this is what it is and thank you John for calling from Portland.

Unless Draymond Green has an incident that rivals the malice at the palace whenever he decides to hang him up and call it quits or the league decides that we're done with him he's going into the Hall of Fame he's going to be known as a champion he's going to be known as an agitator and a trash talker and that's his legacy like all of it and so there's even this incident right now thinking about choking Rudy Gobert this is going to be something that he makes a funny joke about during his Hall of Fame speech I don't know 10 years from now like it's this is just who he is and it's it's a part of who he is and it's been going on for so long that it's not it's not unusual. Willis calling from Buffalo you're on the JR Sport Brief Show. Hey J.R. how are you doing? Good man what's up? I wanted to talk about the Ken Dorsey situation um middle of the I don't think the Bills are making the playoffs I've just put that away I don't think that's happening we're five and five um Josh Allen you know he's got the whole Stepon Diggs situation going on with Trevon Diggs in Dallas um I just want to say do you think the Ken Dorsey was the most necessary move or do you think it should have been put on someone else? I mean who else would be put on somebody got to go somebody you know a change has to be made you can't necessarily dump any other players and so you get rid of the coordinator that's that's that's that's just how the league works that's how sports works what what do you think go ahead do you do you think Joe Brady is a good step up for that position yeah he's a quarterback uh we're we're gonna find out sooner than later I mean people have have felt that he was on the up and up even dating back to his time at LSU just working with Joe Burrow uh he was working for Matt Rule but we know that was a complete disaster up in Carolina and so now he'll have a chance and an opportunity and I would say that Ken Dorsey all things considered for being in his early 40s and a former quarterback he was young they're getting even younger by going with Joe Brady and so maybe they get a little bit more innovative than what we've typically seen I I know that they need that in addition they also have and I think some better skilled position players but they can't manufacture that in the season as well hey Will I have to hit the break so I gotta let you go okay okay no problem man all right thank you so much Will for calling from Buffalo it's the JR Sportbree show here with you on CBS Sports Radio we're gonna take a break on the other side of the break oh man the Sacramento Kings are whooping the Lakers 98 to 77 damn getting ready to go into the fourth quarter I bet Anthony Davis I bet his numbers suck anyway on the other side of the break I'm gonna give you a new top six list it's the holiday season it's Thanksgiving next week I won't be here before Thanksgiving so I'm gonna give you a top six list of things people places athletes coaches maybe that I'm thankful for here in 2023 don't move it's the JR Sportbree show on CBS Sports Radio Lakers are getting their asses kicked cat lovers listen up meet Felix the pet insurance brand made just for cats our cats don't really have nine lives but a lot can happen in the one they do Felix's whisker to tail protection covers accidents illness emergency care exam fees and so much more visit felixcatinsurance.com to learn more about their customizable coverage for felines sorry no dogs allowed that's felixcat insurance.com get it meow insurance is underwritten by Independence American Insurance Company and produced by Independence Pet Group pre-existing conditions are not covered visit felixcat insurance.com slash terms for all terms and limitations selling a little or a lot Shopify helps you do your thing however you cha-ching Shopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business from the launch your online shop stage to the first real life store stage all the way to the did we just hit a million orders stage Shopify is here to help you grow whether you're selling scented soap or offering outdoor outfits Shopify helps you sell everywhere from their all-in-one e-commerce platform to their in-person POS system wherever and whatever you're selling Shopify has got you covered Shopify helps you turn browsers into buyers with the internet's best converting checkout 15% better on average compared to other leading commerce platforms and sell more with less effort thanks to Shopify magic your AI powered all-star Shopify powers 10% of all e-commerce in the U.S. and Shopify is the global force behind allbirds rothies and brooklinen and millions of other entrepreneurs of every size across 175 countries plus Shopify's award-winning 24-7 help is there to support your success every step of the way because businesses that grow grow with Shopify sign up for a one dollar per month trial period at Shopify.com slash odyssey podcast all lowercase go to Shopify.com slash odyssey podcast now to grow your business no matter what stage you're in Shopify.com slash odyssey podcast let's face the facts everyone wants to feel valued especially your employees in fact a 2023 study found 78% of business owners say benefits and retirement plans improve employee retention employees want to feel secure in their jobs and their finances at principle we help you invest in your people because investing in your people is investing in your business learn more at principle.com slash benefits products and services offered by member companies of the principal financial group Des Moines Iowa for important information visit principle.com slash disclosures ew gotta get rid of this old Backstreet Boys t-shirt tell me why because it stinks boys tell me what i've washed it so many times but the odor won't come out tell me why no you tell me why i can't get rid of this odor have you tried down your wrist and refresh it doesn't just cover up odors it helps remove them wow it worked guys yeah downy rinse and refresh removes more odor in one wash than the leading value detergent in three washes find it wherever you buy laundry products you