5.8.23 - JR SportBrief Hour 1

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So whether you're locked in on the Odyssey app, A-U-D-A-C-Y, whether you're tuned in on your local affiliate, whether you're rocking on Sirius XM Channel 158, whether you're tuned in on a smart speaker, I'm glad that you're here. We got a lot to get into over the next four hours. First of all, New York Knicks. They about to be done and cooked. Miami is seconds away from taking a. Oh, now it's done. Game is over. Miami Heat win 109 to 101. Miami Heat beat the New York Knicks. Miami now takes a 3-1 series lead. We're going to talk about that game.

We're going to talk about some of the wild things that took place over the weekend. James Harden found out how to play basketball again, something that he's done successfully for his entire life, except for consistently in the postseason. Devin Booker. He's been consistently just destroying everybody here in the postseason, including last night. And so the Suns tied up with the Nuggets at 2-2. The Sixers tied up with the Celtics at 2-2.

We'll get into that momentarily. We all saw what took place last night during that Suns-Nuggets game when Nikola Jokic decided to shove, nudge, push, whatever the hell you want to call it. Matt Ishbia, the Suns owner. Bob Huggins decided to also lose his mind this morning. I don't know what his deal is. He must have a career death wish. And then the NFL let everybody know because it's the NFL.

They're like, hey, just wait, wait a couple of days. We're going to slowly but surely be announcing the NFL schedule this week. Jim Erce says, leave my old quarterback Andrew Luck alone.

And so we got a lot to do, a lot to get into. If you want to talk to me here on CBS Sports Radio, it is very, very simple. The number is 855-212-4CBS.

That is 855-212-4CBS. If you want to find me on social media, you can go ahead and do that too. I am at JR Sport Brief. That is at JR Sport Brief on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram.

And what a shock, right? This is the JR Sport Brief show. Of course, the name of my Twitter and all the other social media would be at JR Sport Brief. I am not here solo. I'm coming to you live from Atlanta, Georgia, and I'm being joined by our super producer and host of The Evening of Every Evening, David Shepherd, coming to you live from New York City. Dave, how was your weekend? How are you doing today? It was an interesting weekend to say the least, JR.

But nonetheless, it's always great to be with you, my friend. I can't wait for all the topics we have to talk about and an owner thinking he's a player. I can't wait to hear your take on this one.

We'll get into everything, as I mentioned. What was your weekend, JR? I'm glad that you had it. Was that a good thing or bad? You said an eventful weekend.

Is that good or bad? Oh, man. I learned a lot, and I don't want to bog you down with it.

Can I just say this? Everyone needs to be really careful out there and be on guard at all times. Did you get robbed in New York? I got assaulted. Oh, no.

Oh, my God. Where the hell were you? I was in the subway. Are you okay? No, I'm good, JR.

I appreciate you asking. I was on the subway, and basically someone just came up to me and punched me. Oh, my God. They sucker punched me, and I was just reading. It happened at 6.30 a.m. Eastern time. I reported to the police. It's one of those things. You just realize it could have been a lot worse, and so I'm grateful just to be here.

In all seriousness, people need to really be on guard, especially in major cities, and just be grateful that it hasn't happened to you. Oh, man. Well, I'm sorry to hear that, man. I'm glad that you're here. You feel okay? Yeah, man.

JR, I really appreciate you asking. I mean, honestly, with Jordan Neely passing away obviously last week with what happened in the subway, New York is just very tense right now, and so you got to be on guard at all times. I mean, fortunately, I'm young enough where my body can recover. I was punched in the back twice and slapped in the head. I reported to the police, and it's just a matter of realizing that there is such thing as a bystander effect, and the reality is people saw it, and people were in shock.

I mean, they didn't even know what to do. I was just at the wrong place at the wrong time. I happened to be sitting there.

Someone came through the door and just saw me and just said some inappropriate language and then went after me. Obviously, they weren't mentally right, and I hope they get the help that they truly deserve. There's infrastructures in place that have let a lot of people down, specifically those who are certain socioeconomic statuses, and so I understand that there's a big picture here, and I'm just very lucky to be young enough where my body can recover, and I'm really grateful to be talking sports with you for a living and to be by your side every single night doing this. It really does put everything into perspective, though. Well, I'm glad that you're here.

It sucks that something terrible happened to you. Here, I'll bring some levity to this. Do you need me to get Julius Randall to beat him up because that guy's angry all the time?

Well, he had a nice bounce back at Game 4. I'll give him that. No, JR, it's funny because I actually hosted last night at Sirius XM, the post-game show, and when I got assaulted, this was actually right after hosting at CBS Sports Radio. Listen, I get to do what I love for a living.

Life could be a whole lot worse. Like I said, I get to talk sports. Wrong place, wrong time. To your point, they showed some fight in this one.

You know, just like I showed some fight on Sunday when I got assaulted and didn't let it ruin my day. I give the Knicks credit, JR. Talk about being at the wrong place, wrong time. That's the greatest 8 seed in the history of professional basketball, if you ask me, in the Miami Heat. In this Miami Heat team? Can you think of a better 8 seed? The Knicks team that, I don't know, that went 20 years ago plus to the finals?

I don't know, man. Did they beat an NBA champion two years removed that had five of their best players returning? Uh, it's Giannis Atteracumpo who was broken. But having said that, there was nothing fun about this game. There was not a damn thing fun watching this game.

It's pretty bad. The New York Knicks couldn't have a lead. When they led, they led briefly for like two points. New York Knicks here just turned the ball over at a ridiculous pace. Julius Randle ended up fouling out. You got Josh Hart who fouled out. You had Jalen Brunson who almost fouled out. Like, they put up buckets, but it's apparent right now that the Miami Heat, they are, are too deep of a team with too many weapons to throw out the New York Knicks.

And this is without Tolly Hero even participating in the game. And so once again, the Miami Heat win tonight 109 to 101 over the New York Knicks. The Miami Heat now take a 3-1 series lead. They have an opportunity to close it out two nights from now in New York City in Madison Square Garden. So don't be shocked if the New York Knicks go out there and, you know, pick up a victory on their home court, on their home floor with what could be the final home game of the season. The final game period for the season with the New York Knicks.

The fan base obviously very passionate, very loud, very rambunctious, and they will be screaming, shouting, yelling just to try to keep things alive for the, for the Knickerbockers. And so what we'll do is we're going to get to the New York Knicks and the Miami Heat next break. Let's, let's start off with a wrap up of what we saw last night.

And this game was crazy. And we're going to get into the whole Nikola Jokic and Matt Ishbia shove, push Jokic, not suspended, fined $25,000 for the shove and the world moves on. And so we'll get into that next hour.

I know a lot of people feel very strongly about potential double standards and, well, if this was someone else would they get away with it and you can't go into the stands. We'll get into that next hour, but for a minute here. Let's actually focus in on the basketball, because the Suns are doing something that I didn't expect them to do, I expected Devin Booker and Kevin Durant to go out shooting to actually put up points. I didn't expect the Nuggets to not be able to stop them. And so last night the Suns beat them 129 to 124 Devin Booker said, Hey, here's here's 36 points.

You know last time I hit 47 is here's 36 Kevin Durant had 36 Landry Shamet decided to be the other guy to show up. He had 19 points, and so eight and then a bunch of other guys had eight, but Devin Booker and Durant are leading the damn way. And then on Jokic's side, 53 points, 11 assists. Jamal Murray had 28 points.

And this is where things, the Nuggets need more help. Michael Porter Jr. and Aaron Gordon only had 11 apiece. They had 11 points off of the bench.

If you were to ask me and a caller did ask me this last week. I said yeah man, the Nuggets, they have more more players they have more depth is more consistency there. The Suns are a two man group. And even with 53 points, Jokic was whooping that ass 20 of 30 from the field. Is that what you want from Jokic?

Probably not. But we know that he is capable. I mean, after the game. Devin Booker. He basically said, Oh man yeah we we got we got Jokic out here but all I care is that is that we want listen to this humble guy. How would you describe just kind of the feeling of the groove that you're in as a shot maker right now?

You know, I don't think too much into it. You know, I'm just like I keep saying just taking what the defense gives me. You know, I know the spots where I'm supposed to be aggressive and where I'm supposed to make them pay. We talked about transition earlier and just trying to get out and play fast so they can't set their defense and set their double team. So, you know, I don't usually get open shots, you know, so this is a new thing with with having Katie's gravity on the floor.

You know, I'm just trying to set her other DA and Jock said and unbelievable screens that are just frame me up just enough to get him off. Yeah, and he went off 36 points and Devin Booker just in the playoffs this this postseason. 37 points last night, 47 points the game before 35 points, 27 points, 47 points, 30 points, 45 points, 38 points, 26 points. While they letting Devin Booker play basketball.

Somebody can somebody hit the guy and lay him out. He's just Devin Booker is in god mode right now. It's a real game by himself.

And it's not a human being touching him. And then you got Kevin Durant out there, having a quiet 36 and 12. Kevin Durant is a nut all by himself. Kevin Durant is smart enough to look at your kitchen go.

He's nuts. He had 53 and we're lucky enough to beat him. Listen to what Durant had to say about your pitch. I felt like all of those shots and felt like they was easy shots, you know, he just played a game at a pace that you can't speed them up, you know, flustered me strong he can make every shot. I mean, I hate when he makes shots because he's so orthodox is like oh yeah that's a miss and then it goes straight in, you know, he's, he's, he's incredible. He is absolutely incredible. He may not have won a third consecutive NBA MVP but Yochic is just balling outside by himself and nobody could stop him. He moves at his own pace he passes the ball you have to be familiar with what he's doing out there it's. He is just, he's a great basketball player. The world would not be fair if Yochic was ridiculously athletic you have to give him credit for being more athletic than he looks. But could you imagine if he actually had a better body.

It would not be fair here. And so the Suns beat the Nuggets 129 124 the series is tied to all. There's a possibility that Chris Paul might come back two nights from now, or I should say tomorrow night for game five. Now, is that going to be necessary is he going to slow them down is he going to be at full strength of course he's not going to be at full strength, and the Nuggets will be back home.

They will see what they can do and how they decide to bounce back on their home court. That was a fun game to watch. And even the little controversy that we had with Ishbia and Yochic. That was fun as well.

At least Yochic didn't go, you know, run our test on a guy that have been been a different story but we'll get into that. And that's not the only game that took place. Earlier on Sunday. The Sixers. Yeah, Philadelphia 76ers, they beat the Celtics 116 to 115 and overtime this series is tied to all.

And you want to know who showed up. James Harden showed up. James Harden. After just going back and forth and back and forth and back and forth on what type of player he wants to be James Harden decided to wake up and drop 42 points and nine assists. When we've all been, well, me, a lot of people have been talking crap about him and justifiably so, because James Harden doesn't know whether he wants to go.

Does he want to go up three for 15 he want to go four for 16. He has stunk. James Harden 42 points nine assists on Sunday, helps the Sixers tie up this series against the Celtics and James Harden said that he found a, a good luck charm.

There's a young man by the name of john how. Unfortunately, he was shot in the Michigan State shooting, which unfortunately we have too many of these it seems like every day now. At this point, James Harden committed to bringing him to a game, James Harden FaceTime him and communicated with him while he was recovering James Harden had him out at the game he kept his promise, and he paid for this survivor to attend game for with the game that Harden had last night. Harden was captured via the Sixers on social media, saying Listen, I need you back here at our next game I need you here at game six if we can get you out.

And this is what James Harden had to say after his big win to john how game six. Know what you got going on with your schedule. You got to be back here. Good luck.

Thank you. We talked about last time every day right. Yeah, it is an opportunity to get better.

Yeah, we physically all that so just keep the right mindset, and I'm always praying for you know it's got you know that, you know, we with the family. Yeah. Hey, seriously, game six. Yeah, look, whatever is going to help James Harden get going. We see enough of his extracurricular activities outside of basketball.

It's good to see something positive God knows what he does privately, but it's nice to know that, yeah, he has some good things going on when he's not slapping people outside of Vegas clubs. This is the JR sport we show here with you on CBS Sports Radio. We're going to get into your pitch versus ish be. We're going to talk about earth say versus NFL owners, we're going to talk about Mr. Bob Huggins.

I don't even want to call him Mr. We're going to talk about Bob Huggins and his disgusting comments that might actually cost him his job. We got a lot to do and we come back on the other side of the break. We're going to talk about this this Miami Heat victory over the New York Knicks because Miami. They know to tie in this series. Miami just took a three one series lead down in South Beach is the JR sport ratio on CBS Sports Radio. Let's get it started.

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It's simple 855-212-4CBS. We gave a quick wrap up of some of the games that took place on Sunday between the Suns and the Nuggets and the 76ers in the Boston Celtics and then right at the top of the show the minute I jumped on air. The Miami Heat said we're not doing that crap from Sunday. We are not the Suns. We are not the I don't know the who won the game. Hey, shut up.

Help me out here brain lock. Well, they're not the Nuggets obviously. Yeah, the Nuggets and you know, they're not the Celtics.

Yeah, they're not going to be no tie series. Miami Heat said the opposite. They up 3-1 against the Knicks. And so what does this mean for the New York Knicks?

They're basically cooked. Julius Randle running around on a bum ankle. Jalen Brunson played 44 minutes out of tonight's game.

He's running around on a bum ankle. He still had 32 points. Randall had 20. RJ Barrett had 24 points. The New York Knicks off of the bench. They couldn't muster more than 10 points. They were 9 of 28 from downtown. The Knicks were collectively and then you got the Miami Heat.

Hey, they got a team here folks. Jimmy Butler, 27 points, 10 assists. Bam Adebayo showing up a whole hell of a lot more than he did in the Miami Heat's first series against the Bucks. Bam Adebayo, 23 points, 13 rebounds.

A whole lot more consistent here. Max Strues, 4 of 10 from downtown. He had 16 points. Kyle Lowry off the bench had 15.

You got Caleb Martin who gave you 10 off the bench as well and the New York Knicks could not hang at all. I told you about Max Strues. I mean all throughout the game.

He was just blowing him up. Take a listen to this 3 pointer from Max Strues. This was in the second half putting the Miami Heat up 49 to 39. This is courtesy of the great people at the Heat Radio Network. Listen to Jason Jackson. Love with the rebound gets the Jimmy to Strues for 3.

Got it. My cup runneth over for that Strues. Juice.

Max now 2 of 4 from downtown. My cup runneth over for that Strues. Juice.

When I say it I feel like I go to prison for saying something like that but he can get away with it. Jimmy Butler got busy as well. We know he's the best player on the Miami Heat. Jimmy Butler is the man. He was just extending the lead in the 4th quarter. Jimmy Butler helping them go up 9 with a reverse layup. Rebound out top to Lowry. Back to Martin. He's with the Jimmy. Driving right baseline. He flips it around for 2 more. He has 26. Heat up 104. 95.

230 to go. I told you this game was bad to watch. If you were a Knicks fan this game was bad to watch. If you're a basketball fan I'll tell you I got no shame. This was a bad game to watch because the Knicks couldn't grab an offensive rebound. They couldn't get a lead.

It was watching a long ass spanking. And that's exactly what took place tonight. I told you about the offensive rebounds.

Man. The Knicks only gathered 8 of their own misses. That's it. They were out rebounded in total tonight.

44 to 35. The New York Knicks just couldn't get the job done. Take a listen to the final call. Courtesy of the Heat Radio Network. And that should do it. Game 4 of the Easter Conference Semifinal belongs to the Heat. And they lead this series 3 games to 1. It's over.

It's done. You're not supposed to say this and if you're a Heat fan you don't want to say it. Game 5 is going to take place on Wednesday in Madison Square Garden in New York City and already said that place is going to be jumping. I would not be surprised if the New York Knicks just kind of delayed the inevitable and won a home game in Madison Square Garden. Game 6 is going to take place on Friday. That will be back down in Miami and if there should be a game 7 that will also take place in New York City on Monday night. I would not hold my breath on that one.

We know when you go down 3-1 you are basically cooked. The New York Knicks haven't shown me enough of anything really so far throughout this series to say, oh my God. The New York Knicks are going to beat the Miami Heat 3 consecutive times.

If they go out there and do it then God bless them. I just don't see that in the cards. I think at this point we will see the Miami Heat in the Eastern Conference Finals with an opportunity to await the 76ers or the Boston Celtics. Even that series is now tied up at 2-all. So yes, you have to give the Miami Heat credit. I expected this series to be closer and it's still early. The New York Knicks could say, well it's not early. Let me correct myself.

It's not done yet. The Knicks can tackle on another W. But I don't have no faith or confidence in them that they'll do so. It's not even a matter of the offense. They need bench help.

That's offense. Between Randall and Barrett you don't know who's going to be consistent and you don't know what's coming off of the bench especially with no Emmanuel quickly tonight for the New York Knicks. It's like every New York Knick has an issue with an ankle. From Randall to Brunson to quickly who did not play and even though he hasn't had the best postseason he has been missed tonight or was missed for the New York Knicks who only scored 10 points off of the bench. He got pretty bad.

Iron Eagle, let's take a listen to his thoughts and his spin on TNT. Yeah, didn't see this one coming prior to the postseason and here we are. Series over as far as I'm concerned. It would take a miracle for the Knicks to come back. Hey chef, no miracle right? There's no miracle, nope.

Hey Marco Belletti, miracle coming back? Not a chance. Not a chance.

Damn. Hey Marco, give me a percentage here. What's the percentage that the Knicks, you know, kind of... Zero.

Zero? There is no shot of them coming back from 3-1 down. They showed you tonight, JR, they quit. Did they quit or were they just outplayed? Look, they were outplayed but they quit. If you watch their body language in the fourth quarter when the Heat had how many offensive rebounds and second chance points, the Knicks quit down the stretch. Yeah, I feel like the Miami Heat had, legitimately, this is not me exaggerating, they had about five or six offensive rebounds.

The New York Knicks looked like they were just stuck in quicksand. Hey chef, Marco got them at 0%. What's your percentage?

Man, so I mean, look, there's a little bit of a jarred door here, so I would say 0.5%. Here's the uncomfortable question. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Wow, really? Kick that door? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. We're not going to just go past that.

Marco says 0% and then you have the door slightly ajar at, you said 0.5%, half a percentage point? Well, let me ask you a question, JR, and Marco can attest to this too. Is Eric Spoelster going to out-coach Tom Thibodeau in every single game? Because that's been the case for four games so far. I mean, he's getting completely out-coached.

I don't know if it's so much about being out-coached. I think the talent on the floor matters more, and this isn't anything new for the New York Knicks. Their stars, well, first of all, their stars are running around on bum ankles, but then their other star, Julius Randle, at times, he can be maddening, and he has been maddening for his tenure as a New York Knick, even performing as an all-star.

The Knicks don't have, and you can watch the games, we all see the games going on in the postseason right now. We know the difference between someone who is an all-star and someone who is just like an all-world performer. What Devin Booker is doing right now is not a shock. He is an all-world performer. We know Kevin Durant is one of the greatest players ever. It's maddening watching someone like Anthony Davis because he will even straddle the extremes even more.

One day he's looking like Julius Randle or worse, and another day he's like, hey, I got 30 and 20 for you, and he looks like one of the best basketball players we've ever seen. And so, unfortunately, the Knicks don't have that. So I'm not going to put it at 0 or 0.5 percent.

I'm going to one-up you both just by a little bit. I'm going to give the Knicks just for the hell of it. 5 percent, no, that's too much. That's too high, yeah.

That's too much. 2 percent chance for the New York Knicks to bounce back and win this series. I don't want to be premature here, but I might just say it. Hey, congratulations to the Miami Heat prematurely for advancing to the Eastern Conference Finals. Yeah, I'm confident, folks. I'm very confident.

It's the JR Sport Reshow here with you on CBS Sports Radio. The Knicks, give them a couple of days. They're going to have plenty of time to think about vacation and what the hell they plan to do over the next, I don't know, four months. And so, a matter of fact, speaking on someone who's on vacation, we're going to take a break. When we come back, we're going to talk about a quarterback who is on eternal vacation? I guess that's called retirement.

He's retired, but his old team is asking people to leave him the hell alone. I'll tell you who it is on the other side of the break. You're listening to the JR Sport Brief on CBS Sports Radio. I love hearing it every day. I get off work on the way home. I love hearing it. I'm glad you live in the great state that we live in.

Call in now at 855-212-4CBS. I'm glad that I live in your state. Yeah, the great state of Georgia is great sometimes.

Well, I guess that you can say that about anywhere. Anyway, it's the JR Sport Brief show here with you on CBS Sports Radio. Right before the break, I told you that there is a retired quarterback from the NFL who's been getting a few calls.

People have been reaching out to this guy and his former owner is not too happy about that. I'm going to share that with you momentarily. Before I do that, I did tell you right before we went to break that the Miami Heat beat the Knicks 109-101. The Miami Heat now lead the series 3-1.

Miami Heat head coach Eric Spolstra. He spoke after the game momentarily and he basically said, yeah, I commend my guys. We needed to go out there and just kick some ass. This is what Eric Spolstra had to say and in cleaner words, of course. You're just going to have to make these plays in the trenches and they might look different game to game, quarter to quarter, minute to minute. Was that the game plan in the fourth quarter to get whatever four extra possessions?

I can't say that that was, but you just have to find different solutions knowing that there's going to be big challenges. You're just going to have to make effort plays. You're going to have to make the plays in between. We were able to do that tonight. I thought there was a lot of free-flowing stuff in the first half. By the time we got to the fourth quarter, it was just a total grind. We got the necessary stops. We got a bunch of clean looks in the fourth quarter.

We just couldn't knock them down, but we were getting those extra possessions and that certainly helped. Yeah, everything that he just said is true. All of it.

All of it. Good luck to the New York Knicks in trying to come back from 3-1. They're cooked.

They're going to have plenty of time to think about everything that took place. Meanwhile, here, now about the quarterback. Andrew Luck is the guy. Andrew Luck is the NFL quarterback. Formerly, I guess we can call him a former NFL quarterback. Andrew Luck is still being courted or has been courted by other NFL teams to return. Andrew Luck decided to call it quits in 2019 with three years left on his contract. The man was a four-time Pro Bowler.

He retired at the age of 29. He was what the Green Bay Packers basically had. They went from one legend, Brett Favre, to another one in Aaron Rodgers. In the Colts case, they went from Peyton Manning to basically Andrew Luck. Andrew Luck just said, nah, I'm good. I'm done.

I'm out of here. This man had a regular season record of 53-33. He went to an AFC Championship game.

Unfortunately for him, he got smoked. But you think about his career. Seven full seasons. Due to injury, he really only played six. He was a baller. Andrew Luck was one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL.

And then injuries. This man is Stanford educated. He said, I'm not, I'm not doing this. I'm out of here. He quit. He said, I'm not doing this crap anymore. He was peeing blood. He had a lacerated kidney and he was out there using the bathroom and blood was coming out.

No, thank you. He had a partially torn abdomen. He torn cartilage and, or had torn cartilage in his ribs. He suffered a concussion, probably multiple. He had a torn labrum in his throwing shoulder. He had to deal with that calf and ankle issue, which basically was the last injury that cooked him. And then right before the season started in training camp in the summertime, he said, I'm done with this.

And he called it a wrap. Andrew Luck deciding to leave three years, $65 million on the table said, I am done with the NFL. And over the weekend, we learned that of all the teams that, that exist in the NFL last season, it was reported that the Washington commanders tried to reach out and see if Andrew Luck would be willing to come back. And Jim Irsay, who's never been shy about getting at other NFL owners, whether it's Daniel Snyder, who we know he hates that guy's guts, was very vocal about getting him out of the league.

It looks like that will be the case. Jim Irsay went to Twitter because that's what people do nowadays. You don't call the guy up and curse him out directly.

You just go to Twitter. Jim Irsay said, if any NFL team attempted to contact Andrew Luck or any associate of him to play for their franchise, it would be a clear violation of the league's tampering policy. And so the NFL's anti tampering policy says that you just, you can't directly contact the players.

So don't expect any type of punishment here. Don't expect Jim Irsay to, you know, get his wish that someone is punished. Just expect Andrew Luck to stay away from the game. I don't see him bouncing back.

The same way Marco and Shep and I just said that the New York Knicks have almost no chance in bouncing back here from their 3-1 deficit. Why would Andrew Luck, who quit at 29, come back, he ain't coming back this season, you can bet on that. Why would he just wake up and come back next year?

The guy made money, he has an education, like why bother? And so here's the other element. If he were to come back and play football, he basically belongs to the Colts because his contract isn't finished. His contract would basically restart unless the Colts decided to move on ahead. And we know they have Anthony Richardson, but Andrew Luck belongs to them.

And so an interesting story. I know there's so much love for Sam Howell and there's a lot of Washington fans who hope that he works out and he's the future. And I guess after watching Heinecke and then also having to say, oh my God, we actually have Wentz here as a QB, why not kick the tires on Andrew Luck? But I think that that ship has sailed, I would just leave that man alone. I think he's dealt with enough injury issues and I think he's done. I got a question for you, JR.

Yes, go ahead. So you mentioned the fact that this guy played six years, essentially five full seasons. There's another guy that played five full seasons as well.

We know he was a great running back and there's always that argument of... Zarell Davis? Yes, but the other guy I'm going, he played way back in the day, passed away recently and that of course is Gail Sayers. Right.

Now Gail Sayers we know is of course in Canton, Ohio. If Luck never plays another down in the NFL, like you said, that's 99.9% a probability, does he eventually get in the Hall of Fame? Are you serious? JR, do you realize they were two and 14 the season before he got there? Obviously, Peyton was not there with the neck surgeries and what Andrew Luck did in turning that franchise around and how dominant he was from day one? Andrew Luck is not seeing the pro football Hall of Fame. You're not even going to consider that. He's not, man.

I don't even know what to say. He's not going into the Hall of Fame. If he went out and he won championships every year.

Here's a perfect example. You can go ahead and take a look at Mahomes. He would have to have Mahomes type success. If Patrick Mahomes decided to call it quits today, Mahomes would have a case and maybe another Super Bowl.

I don't know. But Mahomes would have a better case. He's a lock. He's a lock right now. This second, Pat Mahomes agrees.

That's what they have played. How many years has Mahomes played fully? You have to take out the Alex Smith year and so that eliminates 2017.

And so that gives him one, two, three, five. You'd have to have a Mahomes career. And so if you just do the career math, Mahomes versus what Luck did, like nah. If you're being fair here, Mahomes exceeds just being a Hall of Famer. He's already one of the top five quarterbacks in the history of the sport.

If he retires today, you can make an argument he's Mount Rushmore already. But that's what you have to do if you're going to play quarterback for that short a time. Andrew Luck went to an AFC title game and his squad got smoked. He didn't even make it to a Super Bowl. Andrew Luck, he can make it into the Hall of, I am very smart.

I was smart enough to make money and leave the NFL before I kept peeing blood. And that's a good Hall of Fame for a human being. And so I can't put Luck in the Hall of Fame. Do you think he's going in the Hall of Fame?

I think there's a legitimate argument to be made. If you look at what he was in terms of touchdowns to interceptions, what he was, which losses, the help that he did not have around him. And Jay, you mentioned the fact that he didn't make a Super Bowl. I know the numbers and the stats. Do you put him in the Hall of Fame?

Would you? I'm not saying any chance. You would put Andrew Luck in the Hall of Fame. You've got three or four quarterbacks on planet earth that played the position better. Therefore, you have to put him or at least strongly consider Andrew Luck in the Hall of Fame.

I laugh. That man, you know who said this? Was it, was it Michael Irvin?

The Hall of Fame is the Hall of very good. No, it was Deion Sanders. It was prime time.

Yes, it was prime. Andrew Luck got a sit and watch at home. I'm going into the Pro Football Hall of Fame just like Andrew Luck. I deserve it like he does. No.

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