In for JR tonight, you gotta deal with me for one more hour. I'm a sports machine Sean LeDee with my guy Ryan back in studio spinning the wheels for us. You want to talk? Hit me up. The number's 888-710-45.
For ISN, we got fake football going on right now, three preseason games. Get you updated on those here momentarily. We've got a bunch of baseball going on. As the Season's coming down the stretch, and maybe not quite yet, but there's like 50-something games left.
So, all the divisions still very much in play.
So, we got plenty to talk about here in this final hour. We'll play a game of overrated, underrated before we dip, like we always do. I was helping my grandpa downsize. He's moving.
So the last couple of weekends I've spent kind of helping grandpa move. And you really learn a lot about somebody when you help them move. If you look inside the boxes, right, you kind of Untape them a little bit and you peek inside, you're like, What a weirdo! I'm finding out that about my grandpa, and I love the guy. But Apparently, he's been an electronics hoarder, not hoarder, his entire life because he's got every VCR and every DVD player, Blu-ray.
I mean, there was like an 8-track machine in there. There was a disc man. I'm not making this up. I think he had two different disc man. Or, I guess the portal would be disc men.
Like, he just didn't get rid of any of it. And he also had this old-ass box computer. And he very nicely said to me, He goes, Hey, for helping me move, if you want, you can have that computer. I'm like Grandpa, do you know how much it would have cost for us to hire a moving company? And you're offering me a computer from like 1989?
But instead of saying no, I turned it on. I was like, does this thing still work? Not only does it work, It's got some bangers on there. Oregon Trail? Guys remember Oregon Trail?
I know video games' graphics have gotten way better over the years, and we went from Nintendo to Super Nintendo to 64 to PlayStation to whatever PlayStation they're at right now, Xbox. I get it, it's supposed to be better. It's not, though. When's the last time you played the old school organ trail? That's a little bit depressing, right?
Somebody gets like typhoid fever or something. You trade with the wrong person, the oxen go down. It's sad. But Oregon Trail.
So I actually took it home. It had all the games on there: Number Crunchers or Munchers, whatever it's called.
Solitaire Minesweeper? I remember the other day. My nephew's playing Minecraft, and I was watching for a while, and I'm like, what is going on? He's like, you don't even understand Minecraft. I'm like, come here, kid.
Fire up a little bit of Minesweeper. You don't even understand Minesweeper. Does anybody understand Minesweeper now that I'm thinking about it? It's the numbers, right? With the bombs.
Yeah, but do you actually know how to play? Have you ever won the game? No, I've never played it, but I've no other. Good for you. I think there's a gambling version of that now, which is not very safe.
No, but if there is, I'll give it a shot, even though I don't know how to play. That's how much a degenerate I am. How do you not know the soup Nazi is, but you're familiar with Minesweeper? Because I know some. I feel like I should know all the video games and not.
Yeah. Niche references to Seinfeld? That's fair. Again, no soup for you.
So let me check out these football games real quick. Detroit and Atlanta Getting late in the third from the ATL. Ten to tens, that's a fun one. New England, wow, how about the Patriots? I mean, it's preseason football, take it for what you will, up twenty seven to three over Washington.
That game's in the second quarter. And about midway through the third from Carolina, the Browns and Shador Sanders up fourteen to seven. I believe that Shador is now out of the game. Let me check.
So, Shador looks like his night 11 of 19 for 103 to go along with two touchdown passes. He definitely was the best quarterback on the field. He definitely Outperformed, I think, what his expectations were. Those are good numbers: 13 to 19, one on three, two touchdowns, no interceptions. You come off the field with your team with a lead.
That guy had a lot of pressure. There's a lot of difference, but I know it's just a preseason football game. But he is Deion's kid. We all watched him play in college for four years. We watched him slide in the draft.
This kid, I mean, it's not like LeBron James or anything coming out of high school or anything like that. I'd say it's Bryce Harper-ish a little bit. Where we've known about this guy for a while, and now that he's actually playing pro ball, go out there and do something. And to his credit, he did. He was better than Bryce Young.
Bryce Young was four of six for 58 yards and a touchdown. I ask you, football fan, for the next three, for the next five years. You can either have Bryce Young be your quarterback, and remember that guy was the number one pick in the first round of the draft just three years ago. Ah. I can get you a fifth-round draft pick in Shador Sanders, who you've never seen play one NFL snap.
You tell me, who would you rather have? Because to me This one's easy. It's Shador. Shador Sanders has a chance. To be the best Browns quarterback.
in my lifetime. No, that's not saying too much because when you think of all the Johnny Menzels and, well, what we've seen more recently with Deshaun Watsons and go back to Tim Couch and even Baker Mayfield when he was there. That organization has tried and failed a lot when it comes to drafting quarterbacks.
So, all Shador really has to do. Is go out there, be the starting quarterback, and this is not going to be easy. But go out there, earn the starting job, win some football games. Be the starting quarterback for the next three to five years. Take your team to, let's say, two playoff appearances in the next five years.
And that probably makes Shador Sanders the best Browns quarterback in my lifetime. I don't know if that was meant to be a compliment for the kid or an insult to the organization, but am I wrong? 888-710-4ISN is the phone number. And the Browns can't miss, by the way. You put him on the field.
Let's say that he's as good as he was tonight. When the regular season comes around. And I don't think the Browns have enough talent where they're going to win any more than, let's say, If things go perfect, maybe they win, let's say, seven football games.
So, why would you even humor the idea of putting Joe Flacco on the field at the beginning of the year? It'd be one thing if this was the Pittsburgh Steelers, where you've been in the playoffs the last couple of years. You got a pretty good team, good coaching staff. You're just a quarterback away. That's why Pittsburgh decided to go with the veteran route of Aaron Rodgers instead of the rookie route, or draft a guy that's unproven and see what he has with the rest of the Pittsburgh Steelers team, because they think they're ready to win now.
It makes sense to put a veteran quarterback on the field in that particular situation. It doesn't though in Cleveland. Because if you're going and we're going to talk about the Giants here in just a minute, it's the same thing. Why would you put a veteran quarterback on the field? If you're only going to win.
six or seven football games. What's the point? Why did you draft the rookie quarterback?
Now sometimes you can say because I want him to sit for a year the whole Patrick Mahomes behind Alex Smith scenario. Look, That's the only time that I can ever remember. That it happened perfectly was that scenario that I just gave you. Most of the time, when a quarterback sits, it's either because he's not ready. Like we saw with Trey Lance for a couple of years, it's because he got hurt.
Like we saw with J.J. McCarthy, very rare are you in a situation where you just draft the quarterback. The plan is he's gonna be your guy for the future, but you're gonna let him sit for a year. Why, if you're a crappy football team, would you possibly do that? And both the Giants and the Browns quantify.
They are both crappy football teams that have a chance to pick in the top five or six of next year's draft.
So why not put the quarterback that you drafted on the field right away? You're not gonna set him back. He's not going to learn a bunch by watching Joe Flack go through the first two months, year two and six, and then you put Chador out there. In the case of the Giants, why put Russell Wilson on the field instead of Jackson Dart right away? Didn't you draft Jackson Dart?
So, you could put him on the field, so you could bump his head, struggle for a while, like most rookies do, lose some football games. But by year two or year three, you've got your guy at quarterback, and now you've got a chance. Why not start the process right away if the team's going to be bad, anyways? Again, If this was Pittsburgh. And they've won double-digit games the last couple of years.
And if they get the quarterback to play well, they probably make the playoffs again. Let's say Joe Flacco is as good as he was a couple of years ago when he won the NFL comeback player of the year. Cleveland doesn't have enough talent. to win that division to even go 500.
So what's the point? Of sitting the rookie. I don't get it. In the Russell Wilson situation. Essentially Brian Dayball named him the starter like a month ago, and that makes sense from one person's perspective.
Brian Dables. Because he's got to try to keep his job. And the only way that he keeps his job is if they win football games early, and the best chance of him to win football games early is, I suppose, to put Russell Wilson on the field. But Do you remember how Russell Wilson got his starting job? It's been a long time now, so if you don't remember, it's cool, but I'll tell you a little story here.
So, Russell Wilson, he's undersized NC State, Wisconsin. What was it like a third or fourth-round draft pick, whatever he was, kind of an afterthought at quarterback, gets drafted by Seattle. And then ultimately, Seattle had just paid Matt Flynn. Remember that guy? Matt Flynn.
I think they gave him a four-year contract for all the money in the world, and he was going to be the quarterback of the future. But the preseason came around and they got this guy, Russell Wilson. You know, let's throw his ass out there, kind of like we saw with Shador, kind of like we're going to see with Jackson Dart. Just see what he has. And Russell Wilson wasn't good, he was great.
And they were like, all right, let's see a little bit more of him. and then he was great the next preseason game. And then the third preseason game came around, he was even better. And then they brought Matt Flynn to the principal's office and said, hey, sorry, dude. Enjoy your contract, but you're not the starting quarterback here.
Whoever this Russell Wilson kid is, he earned the job. You have to give Jackson Dart. If you're the Giants, a chance? To Russell Wilson, Russell Wilson, if that makes sense. Let him go out there, Jackson Dart, and prove that he's not ahead of schedule.
Because what's the point of putting Russell Wilson out there? Isn't there a ceiling there? Didn't we see in Denver and certainly in Pittsburgh that if you got Russell Wilson at this point in his career, he's not a bad quarterback. He's an average quarterback and you're going to win six, seven, eight football games? 888-710-4ISN is the phone number.
Let's take some phone calls. Let's go out to Chris in Cali. Chris, you're on the Infinity Sports Network. Hey, what's going on, my guy? Yo, what up, dude?
Hey.
So, have you been following the game or not? The Cleveland Browns games? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 14-7, 7 minutes left in the third. Shador's looking good.
Yeah, that's the reason for my phone call.
So hey, I will push this until it happens I will go to every preseason game for the LA Rams. Let's bring Kenny Pickett to the Browns, man. I don't want to see I don't want to see any more Riffraff, or whatever's going on. I mean, he should get his opportunity to. Playing these preseason games, if he stinks this bad, supposedly, if the media is pushing this narrative to where he's this bad, why can't he showcase what he has?
Why do you want can he pick it with the Rams?
Well, because I think Matthew Stafford won't last the whole seventeen games. That's a maybe. And thanks for the phone call. I appreciate it. 888-710-4ISN is the phone number.
That's an interesting division, the NFC West, because it's the only division in football. that right now that we're just getting preseason underway. All the fan bases of all those teams should think That they're going to win the division. I just said a lot of words to really get nowhere. But if I'm a Rams fan, I should think we're going to win the division.
Same thing if I'm a 49ers fan, a Cardinals fan, certainly a Seahawks fan. I feel like I'm on an island here when it comes to the Seahawks. I think they're going to win like 12, 13 games, and Sam Donnell is going to be a perfect fit. All those teams could win the division, except for Arizona. What am I talking about?
I guess they could. 888-710-4ISN is the phone number. My guy wants Kenny Pickett in L.A., who knew? Speaking of Los Angeles, let's go out there. David joins us on the Infinity Sports Network.
What's up, David? Hey, thank you so much for taking my call.
So, I want to disagree with you about putting in young quarterbacks early. I've always been of the opinion that when it comes to when you put in your young quarterback, it must be on a case-by-case basis. There cannot be a broad brush determination of if it's a youngster, if it's your quarterback of the future, you want to put them in early to see what you have. Because there are some quarterbacks who come into the league who are not yet ready to start, or you may not have the right team around them to give them the confidence to start. I always bring up two examples.
Troy Aikman was thrown into the fire very early on, and he was completely destroyed.
Now Troy Aikman was a warrior, and it did not destroy his confidence. Eventually, he wound up winning three Super Bowls. But then the Texans put in David Carr in their inaugural year, and he did not have an offensive line around him. He got sacked 73 times. He was never the same after that.
So they rushed him, they put him in there to make him the face of the franchise. And he wound up being a total bust, not through a fault of his own.
So when it comes to young quarterbacks, You, as a coaching staff, you have to know: okay, now is the time to put them in. If it's not the rookie year, if they need to sit for a year to learn, if they need to sit for a year because you need to build a team around them. Got to do that first.
So, when it comes to, you know. Jackson Dart or Shador Sanders or whoever else is going in this year. Every team's got to take it on a team-by-team basis, case-by-case basis. With Shador, though, David, don't you think that it makes sense that he should be the week one starter only because he's not a first-round pick, so you don't have to pay him first-round pick money. They're never going to come a bust because he was a fifth-round pick.
So if it doesn't work out fine, you go with one of those other guys. And if it works out good, well, then cool. You got your quarterback of the future. If it works out bad, well, then it's probably going to be so bad. You only win three or four games.
Then you get your quarterback next year. Like, I don't see how it could fail with Shador with the Browns. From a Browns' perspective, sure. Yeah, absolutely. They should be thinking that way.
But if Shadur is somebody who needs some time to kind of develop. To maximize his potential, then from a Shadur perspective. I would probably say hold them back. I see what you're saying. Thanks for the phone call, man.
888-710-4ISN is the phone number. Speaking of Shador and those Browns, they score again. He's still out there, by the way.
So Shador is now 14 of 23 for a buck 38, two touchdowns. He's been sacked a couple of times. He's been, for my account, the best player on the football field. The Browns tack on another touchdown, this one on the ground, and they're now up 21 to 7.
So again, if the team let's say that they had Joe Flacco and he played at the same level he did a couple of years ago when he was the NFL comeback player of the year. I doubt he does because that was a couple of years ago, a couple of teams ago. But let's say that he's still that guy.
Well, then they're going to win six games, seven games. I'm talking about if he plays at a top 10 quarterback level, the rest of the talent. that the Browns have on that roster, they don't get to the playoffs. They don't come close to winning a division that has both the Bengals. The Ravens.
And the Steelers in it.
So we're talking about on an individual basis, like that caller was saying, if I'm the Browns. Especially after what I'm seeing tonight. Yo, I'm going to name Shador Sanders the starter right after this game. If they haven't already. 888-710-4ISN is the phone number.
He's not going to win the MVP. I think you're going to be a little bit surprised who the favorite is heading into this NFL season. And just how low the odds are for a certain Super Bowl-winning quarterback. This is crazy. Let's talk some more football on the other side.
I'm the sports machine, Sean Levine. You're listening to the JR Sport Brief. Here's Sean Levine. Hey, thanks for checking us out tonight. Thanks for starting your weekend with us here on the Infinity Sports Network.
That's my guy, Ryan. I'm the sports machine, Sean Levine, and you for about another 40 minutes here. on this Friday night. The number is 888-710-4ISN. Ryan, was it last summer or the summer before?
that we got the Barbie movie and uh Mario Brothers movie. Was that last summer? Barbenheimer was 2023.
So, a couple of summers ago. I'm just saying, it feels like this has been the crappiest movie summer that I could ever remember. It's been a great summer. What are you talking about, dude? Have you seen War of the Worlds?
Well, that's on Amazon Prime. I'm just asking: have you seen it? No, I've heard it's hilariously bad, so I want to watch it. It's.
Some movies are so bad they're good, and then movies are so bad that they just suck. And that's what this one is. And this is on the heels of Happy Gilmore, too, which I had these crazy expectations for. And.
Well, it didn't live up to any of them. What are you talking about? Like, what did I miss this summer? Superman? That was fine.
Yeah. Yeah. Can't you? It was okay. And I saw on the IMAX, like, the 3D, the dinosaurs are scary as hell.
That was the best part, though. The movie was okay. There's a new horror movie called Weapons. That's out. You say a horror movie?
A horror movie? Oh, I thought you meant like an adult film.
Okay, so a scary movie. A scary movie. Whoa, okay. A scary movie. That's out.
It's about 98% on Ron or 96% on Ron Tomatoes. The Naked Gun. Came out. I do want to see that. I wanna see what's good too.
And then this month there's um There's a few other movies coming out that are good. F one was I. But I saw that at a drive-in movie. Oh, I was like, you gotta see that on like an IMAX theater. No, no, no.
No, I saw it at a drive-in, and I was in my car, and I was like moving the steering wheel along with the drivers. It was awesome. Yeah, no, not because you've tried it. Let's take a couple phone calls before we talk some more football. Let's go out to North Carolina.
Come on and raise up. Barry joins us on the Infinity Sports Network. What up, Barry? Hey, what up? What's going on, guys?
I heard you talking about Shadur. Yeah. And I'm sure everybody who's a football fan is watching him just go out there and just do amazing things. Right now, and I'm a big-time Steelers fan, and I got to tell you, I'm hurt right now. Like, I just never understood.
the whole logistics of the decision making about the quarterback position And you know, I've watched probably every game that Shadua played at Colorado. And I never saw the kid get rattled. He looked like a pro out there. Yes, yes, yes. The eyes told us that.
The numbers told us that. Like, he didn't turn the ball over. He threw for a high percentage percentage. He resurrected the college football program that was Colorado. It's not easy playing for your dad when your dad's Deon.
What's the knock on this kid? What are we missing, dude? I think what it is, is that this is a case of the Son being punished for the sins of the Father. And I say that sort of tongue in cheek, but because prime is very polarizing. You either love them or you hate them.
And this is a case where You know, what's that there's a line in the movie. You guys are talking about movies. I love F One, by the way. Great movie, in my opinion. But there's a line, it's it was never it was never personal, it was all about business.
And this is the opposite of that mentality. It's like it was personal.
So I mean, I'll say this in closing is that Cam Ward He better raise the bar. I mean, to do is raise the bar on him and everybody else that was picked before him. And I got to say that I'm not surprised that he's performing this way. Like I said, I've watched almost every game at Colorado I saw the kid perform like a pro. And let's not forget, that he's mentored by Brady.
This kid has been mentored by Brady since he was like in the tenth grade. Pittsburgh specifically, since you're a fan, Barry, why do you think They didn't humor the idea of drafting Shador Sanders, even if they knew that at some point they were going to sign Aaron Rodgers, because that was the plan, it feels like the entire time, it was just a matter of time. And then he put his name on the dotted line. But. You could have Shador sit.
It looks like Aaron Rodgers is just a short-term plan. You could have drafted him in the first, the second, the third, the fourth, eventually the fifth round. Like, why? Specifically, Pittsburgh. It's like You and I are seeing it.
Why not? Why aren't these messing with this guy? There's a lot of question marks. That there's a lot of questions that need to be answered. And this is one of those situations where.
It's really sort of like the nat the last nail in the coffin for Tomlin. and con, mostly Tomlin because Tamla knows this kid and he's seen I'm sure he's seen him play as like It had to be a personal thing. My personal opinion is that I don't think he wanted to deal with prime. I don't think he liked the idea of having fine shadow. And Barry, you're exactly right when you're talking about the sins of the fun.
Thanks to the phone call, man, all that stuff. It's a million percent Dion. Because if you look at the eye test, the win-loss record, the percentages, the arm strength, everything tells us that if he was Shador Smith or Shador Levine, then not only would he be in a first-round pick, he probably would have been the number one overall pick, and then he'd have a completely different set of expectations. I'm telling you. In a weird way, it worked out perfectly for Shador Sanders.
Now, No quarterback really wants to go to the Browns because historically that's kind of a place where quarterbacks. Careers go to die. Even guys that were drafted very high up, like a Baker Mayfield, a Tim Couch, it goes on and on. But for Shador Sanders, it's a perfect landing spot. If it would have been Cleveland taking him in the first round, then not so much, because then you got first-round pressure and all the hype, and people are talking about you and expectations and that type of money.
That would be completely different. But they passed up on him in the first round, the second, the third, the fourth, and finally took him in the fifth round? That's not a whole lot of pressure. He's a fifth round quarterback. And I think the upside is I would say if we look at all the quarterbacks that were drafted this year.
Shador, Jackson Dart. Obviously, Cam Ward at the top. And we can even throw in last year's class with Jaden Daniels and Bo Nicks and J.J. McCarthy and Spencer Route, all the different dudes. There's been like 10, 12 quarterback to draft in the last couple of years.
I'm not saying I'd put Shador at the very top. But he'd be much, much higher than on most people's list. Like, I'm not saying that he's gonna have a better career than Caleb Williams. There's a reason why Caleb Williams was the number one overall pick and the Heisman Trophy winner and all those things. But we actually saw him play in NFL season.
We saw the numbers that he put up. We saw the win-loss record. Is anybody going to be that surprised if Shador gets the opportunity, if he does the same thing? Or dare I say, is even a little bit better? Then Caleb Wauz is a rookie?
888-710-4ISN is the phone number. We'll take some more phone calls in the final half hour of the show. I'm looking at the MVP odds, not for nothing in the NFL.
So it's the guys you would expect at the top. Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen are the favorites at 5-1. Then you got Joe Burrow at 6-1. For the first time heading into a season, Patrick Mahomes is not a long shot, but he's at 7-1. Jaden Daniels At plus 750?
So those are all the guys. that have better than 15 to 1 Odds to win the MVP. And if you're talking about a 15 to 1 or longer MVP winner, that's the definition of a long shot. We'll get to those guys here in just a couple of minutes.
So basically, the NFL thinks it's going to be Lamar, Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, Patrick Mahomes, or Jaden Daniels. Remember the old Sesame Street? Which one of these is not like the other? Which one of whatever it is?
Sorry for my bad saying. Come on, which one of these doesn't belong? Jackson? Alan. The way Mahomes.
Daniels. Come on. And I think that Jaden Daniels was as good of a rookie quarterback, and everybody's shouting into their radio right now. Jaden Daniels, sports machine, he's the one that doesn't belong. Yes, sir, ma'am.
You are correct. Pat yourself on the back. Lamar Jackson Has two MVPs sitting on his mantle. He's had his team be the number one seed on two separate occasions, and he probably should have been the MVP last year, and he's already the quarterback with more rushing yards than any quarterback in the history of the NFL. Through the first, what has he played, seven years?
He's as accomplished as any NFL quarterback that hasn't won a Super Bowl in the history of the game. Then you got Josh Allen. Josh Allen's coming off of an MVP season. Josh Allen. I would say he's not as good of a running quarterback as Lamar Jackson, but he might be next.
He's not as good of a passing quarterback as Patrick Mahomes, but he might be next. Josh Allen is the dude. And at some point, he's probably going to cash in and win a Super Bowl. Jackson Allen deserved to be at the top. Joe Burrow last year put up better numbers than anybody in the NFL.
Would he have 43 touchdowns, nine interceptions, damn near 5,000 yards? Would have been the MVP pretty easily if his team just would have made the playoffs. That's not on him. That's on the coach. That's on the defense.
We talk about the hot seat for Mike McDaniel and Dable and Steichen. I'm not saying, I'm just saying that seat might be getting kind of hot for Zach Taylor also. A few years removed from taking his team to the Super Bowl the last couple of years, missing the playoffs altogether? How? But we all know how good Joe Burrow is.
Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, and Patrick Mahomes. I'm only going to take a minute because you guys are probably sick of me talking about my guy, but he's been an NFL starter for seven years. He's been to seven AFC Championship games. He's been to five Super Bowls. He's won the Super Bowl three times.
The two times that Patrick Mahomes. Went to an SA championship game and lost. He lost to Joe Burrow in overtime. And he lost to Tom Brady. also in overtime.
What I'm trying to tell you is, I know you know how great he is, but Patrick Mahomes damn near has been the starting quarterback for seven years and taking his team to seven straight Super Bowls. Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes, Joe Burrow, and Lamar Jackson are wildly accomplished in their young NFL careers. They all deserve to have those MVP odds at less than eight to one because legitimately they all could win the award. Why is Jaden Daniels here? Kay Natal just got to the party.
And DC fans, hit me up 888-710-4ISN, but don't hate me. He just got to the party. We already think that Jayden Daniels can be spoken about in the same breath. As two-time MVP Lamar Jackson, the reigning MVP Josh Allen, Joe Burrough has been to a Super Bowl, and Patrick Mahomes has been to three of them, five of them? And then you got Jaden Daniels?
That's crazy. And then you look at the kind of long shots after those five guys. Jalen Hurts has 17 to 1 odds.
So Jaden Daniels, 7 to 1. Jalen Hurts, 17 to 1. Come on. It's not that it's just too much love too quick for Jaden Daniels, and if I'm wrong, I'll admit it. But have we ever seen a quarterback as good as he was as a rookie be even better in year number two?
If he's even better, Then that means Jaden Daniels is going to take DC to the Super Bowl. He took one of the NSC Championship game last year.
So if they take the next step, isn't that taken into the Super Bowl? Do we really believe that when I say it out loud? Isn't that a little bit too quick? And Jalen Hurts, who did just go to the Super Bowl, I don't know if you know this, and won and out-dueled my guy Patrick Mahomes, is getting no love. Either are the Eagles.
Everybody loves Jaden. Everybody loves DC. Nobody's talking about Philly. Nobody's talking about Jalen Hurts. 17 to 1 odds.
In fact, during the break, I'm going to lay down some money on that. Seventeen to one odds? Justin Herbert 18 to 1, C.J. Stroud at 25.
Now we're really getting into the weeds. You got Baker at 25 to 1, Jordan Love at 25. Jordan Love, 25 to 1 is a little bit enticing. How about this? Caleb Williams, next on the board.
So, one, two, three, four, five. Caleb Williams has the 11th best odds to win the NFL MVP. There, something to get excited about, Bears fans. 28 to 1 odds, probably not going to happen. Pretty at thirty to one.
Bo Nick's at 35. Trevor Lawrence, why is my guy even on the board 45 to 1? Aaron Rodgers. 50 to 1. Fiddy.
That's a Curtis Jackson to one. If you really got a bigger pair than me, J.J. McCarthy, eh? Vikings fans, sixty to one, MVP. 888-710-4ISN is the phone number.
Here's the plan. Got to get one more sports flash. On the other side, we're going to get you caught up on the football and the baseball. Play a game of underrated. And then I gotta go.
But before that. Let's get in one more sports flash. You're listening to the JR Sport Brief. Here's Sean Levine. Final segment for me and then I gotta go.
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Not a selfish guy, but does have I in me in his name, just saying. 888-710-4ISN is the phone number. Ryan, what was the name of the um Seattle Kraken troll little mascot guy thing? Bowie? Is his full name Bowie the Kraken Troll, or is it just Bowie?
I think it's just Bowie. Just Bowie? It could be Bowie the Sea Troll. But I I've been sorta call him Bowie. I like Bowie the Sea Troll, if that's his full name.
Let's call him that.
So, Bowie the Sea Troll, if you didn't see, we talked about it earlier. They were shooting, like, I think some sort of imaging for the upcoming season to put on a calendar or something like that. The Seattle Kraken were, and they had their mascot, which is not a Kraken, it's a. It's a buoy, it's a it's a troll, and It almost got eaten by a bear. Is what I'm trying to get at.
And I'm not going to lie. A mascot getting into a tussle with an actual bear. Would be relatively entertaining. I was kind of rooting for the bear. I didn't want anything bad to happen to the person inside of Bowie.
But I kind of wanted to see that mascot arm get chewed off or something. As long as, again, there's nothing bad that actually happened to the person, because you know, I'm a big animal guy. In fact, Ryan, do you know what the in Japan, the number one growing animal for families is right now in 2025? I'm going to go to the next one. Wait, wait, what'd you say?
Lemur? No, you didn't get it right. Spiders. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. No, see, here's the thing.
I never wanted to have a spider as a pet until I did. And I about a month ago My pet spider passed away. I don't know if I could call it a pet spider, but. But it was Charlotte, and I have two sinks, but I'm just my own guy, so I don't need two sinks in my bathroom.
So, one of them's for me, and one of them was for the spider Charlotte to live in, to make her web, to take care of all the other bugs. And then, a couple of weeks ago, man, I hate to say it, but Charlotte is.
Well, I'm going to try not to cry. Charlotte's no longer with us anymore.
So, rest in peace. I love that Spider-Man. I really do. Not as much as my dogs or my family or anything like that, but man, I got tight with that spider. This is getting weird.
Give me some beats. Overrated, underrated before we get out of here. We talked about all this stuff over the last four hours. If you missed it. That's on you.
Check out the podcast. Hey, remember when we talked about P-ball rhyme? Yeah. Four and under, four and under, of course. Um Yeah, uh how about the game Ski Ball?
Overrated, underrated. Overrated. It just always is. It's not worth it. You don't get many tickets from it at the arcade.
And it's just, I feel like it's a waste of time. Who doesn't like ski ball? I'd rather do real bowling. If we're being real. Oh, yeah, real bowling over skeeball all day long, but I'm not going to go to the arcade without playing skee-ball.
That's crazy. Um, how about the Red Sox, overrated and underrated? They are underrated. I think their young prospects are being overlooked a little bit. Roman Anthony, Christian Campbell, of course, struggled.
Other than that, I just think they're a well-made team that nobody really looks at their young pieces. Why did Roman Anthony sign that contract? Get rid of the arbitration years. It's just so much easier for them. I guess so.
And it's it's that's a very team friendly contract. I mean, you want to talk about whatever he gets per year, $10, $12, $15 million, it's good money. But compared to Juan Soda, what's he getting? Like $70 million? That's.
The Red Sox got a steal. How about a Travis Hunter? Overrated, underrated? As of now, he is overrated. Just because he hasn't done anything in the NFL.
Get back to me week five? I'd say he's probably underrated. I would just put him on the defensive side of the ball because, if not, he's going to get exposed, not because of him, but because of his quarterback. Like, Trevor Lawrence is garbage. And I think even if he stays, if both guys stay healthy, and let's say that he plays 70% of his snaps on offense, talking about Travis Hunter, I don't think he puts up that big of numbers again because of Trevor Lawrence.
So, defensively, I think is where it's at for that guy going forward. I'm going to go as long as he is. Plays a bunch on both sides of the ball and stays healthy, got to be underrated. Um how about Another wide receiver, Tyreek Hill, his entire career in a nutshell, overrated and underrated. Underrated.
I think that he's been consistently a top five wide receiver in the league. And I think people are now, at this point, distracted with his off the field comments and him trying to race Noah Lyles and all the other stuff that's not been happening on the football field. and it distracts from how good he really is and will be a first ballot Hall of Famer. No doubt about it. I don't think he's a top five all-time wide receiver.
I did this list the other day. I had Jerry Rice, Calvin Johnson, T.O., Fitzgerald. Who am I forgetting? Randy Moss. But he's like next, isn't he?
He's pretty damn close to that list for all those reasons that you just said. He's also going to turn 32 years old this year. And if you saw at the press conference with Tua a week ago when training camp started, Tua's still, he's pissed. Like, he's not letting the words that Tyree Kill had to say about the team at the end of last year go. And you got a coach that's on the hot seat, a division that's getting better.
A wide receiver that's number one aspect is his speed, and he's getting old. And a quarterback that's often injured, not getting along well with the. I guess best player on the team right now and Tyree Killer close to it. What I'm trying to say is, it's going to explode in Miami. They're going to be awful.
They're going to be what the Jets were last year, where a month and a half into the season, they can't just fire all the players.
So they're going to fire the general manager. They're going to fire the head coach. It's going to be a train wreck. I'm not saying they're as bad as Cleveland or New Orleans or Indy, but I'm telling you, man, I bet Miami finishes in last place, and I wouldn't be surprised to get like a top seven pick. Gino Smith.
Overrated and underrated. As of now, I feel like the entire national media standpoint is underrating him. I think he's a lot better, and he actually could win some games here with the Raiders. But his overall career I s it's not even overrated, it's just Blah, it's average.
So I'd say right now he's underrated. 150 to one to win the MVP this year, huh? Yeah, that's not happening. No, probably not. Um no soup for you.
Michael Beasley, we talked about that guy earlier. Overrated, underrated. I can't believe his NBA query didn't work out way better than it did.
Okay, so I'd say He is Underrated as a scorer. overrated as a human? He's a little too weird. I don't know if you saw the altercation you had with Lance Stevenson a couple weeks ago. I loved it.
It's insane. I'm all for it. He's so insane. Dude, I spent 15 minutes earlier. You were with me, Ryan, talking about how much I enjoyed the malice at the palace.
I broke it down like frame, like frame by frame.
So, you know, I don't care. Michael Beasley, he's a little rough around the edges. I love that guy. Anything that draw viewers to the big three? I love the big three.
Shador Sanders Overrated and Underrated. Underrated. Until I think he's underrated by the Browns, but the national media and I think the casual fan. Kings knows how good he is.
So I'd say the Browns are underrating him. And the rest of the the NFL fan bases and fans are Keeping him properly rated. We had that Steelers fan call in like an hour ago, and what sucks is I find Shador to be a really easy guy to root for. I just like him. Like, I liked him at Colorado.
It doesn't bother me that he's Deion Kid. Doesn't matter, it bother me that he has his own logo, that he's a little bit brash, confident, cocky, whatever you want to call it. I'm rooting for the kid, especially because he fell in the draft and it wasn't his fault. I'm rooting for him. It must suck for Pittsburgh fans that you have to root for Aaron Rodgers.
When there are a bunch of other alternatives out there, like it's really easy to root for Shador. It's just not that easy to root for Aaron Rodgers. Um, the Fantastic Four, overrated and underrated. I didn't see the movie yet. I know I was talking about it earlier.
I haven't seen the movie. Are we talking about the movie or the group itself?
Well, since you haven't seen the movie, The Group. The group itself is underrated. It's by far the second best Marvel. comic series you could say behind the X-Men? I'd stand on that.
And it's just the way they were written, the old Fantastic Four movies when I was a kid. I know they were in popular with critics, but I love them and they're hold a special place in my heart.
So I'm gonna say the Fantastic Four is very underrated. They're fine. They're cool. They're like the fantastic four on the Atlanta Braves pitching staff in the 1990s. What was it?
Steve Avery. Greg Maddox, Tom Glavin, John Smoltz. That's what they are. They're cool. Um Micah Parsons, overrated and underrated.
Overrated I think he's a great pass rusher. I think he is a key to a defense, but I just think he is not the best defender in the NFL. And he He will get paid like the best player in the NFL. Non-quarterback, of course. But he just isn't.
I disagree. He's young. I was going to say he's healthy, but that's actually not true. The problem is: if you're the Cowboys and you pay him all the money that he wants. Does that move the needle?
Like, does that help you win more football games? Because Miles Garrett just got paid by Cleveland, and I don't think they're going to win a bunch more games because they re-signed him or TJ Watt. Or Sauce Gardner. If you've got these sub-defensive players, you have to also be able to score some points. Um, Big Ten in football, overrated, underrated.
Underrated. I feel like any college football at this point is competitive, just with the NIL landscape. The Big Ten, though, is different because the SEC, we all know, Ryan, is the closest thing to the NFL, but the Big Ten after conference realignment. Let's see what USC does. If USC can go back to being the USC with Pete Carroll, and then you throw in obviously Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, Oregon, that's five teams right there that are elite.
Again, it's not what they have in the SEC. Yo, I cannot wait for college football to start. Did they hook us up like a tow truck or what with the schedule? Check this out. In week one for college football, we get Texas versus Ohio State.
I'm looking at the odds right now to win the national championship. Texas is the favorite. Followed by last year's champion, Ohio State Buckeyes. Here's the cool thing: most of the time, whenever the college football season rolls around, it's always the same teams at the top of the poll. It's Georgia, it's Alabama, it's Notre Dame, it's Ohio State, it's Michigan, and certainly a lot of those teams are at the top.
But we're not going to have to wonder who the elite teams are in college football very long this year because after week one, Like I just said, not only do we get Texas, the favorites, to win the national championship against last year's national champion, Buckeyes, but we get another top 10 matchup, which is Clemson, who's got two first-place votes against LSU. Whoever wins that game instantly becomes the number two ranked team in the country because they earned it. only behind the winner of Ohio State and Texas. And heading into week two, we're going to know for sure who the best two teams in college football are. Four hours flew by, y'all.
That's crazy. That's it for me, thanks to my guy Ryan spinning the wheels back in studio. I'm the sports machine Sean Levine.
