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Making a Difference in the Marketplace

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June 15, 2024 12:41 pm

Making a Difference in the Marketplace

It's Time to Man Up! / Nikita Koloff

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Today Nikita talks with Darren Shearer for another agreat episode of Man Up !

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But most of all, thank you for listening and for choosing the Truth Podcast Network. Ladies and gentlemen, the following contest is set for one flaw. Introducing first, from Lithuania, he weighs 123 kilos, The Russian Nightmare, Nikita Kolob. Now, The Devil's Nightmare. Welcome back to another episode of It's Time to Man Up. Welcome back to another episode. It's time to man up with yours truly, Nikita Kolob. And listen, how do you go from just proofreading maybe a few manuscripts or a few books and turn that into a multi six-figure publishing company?

Well, you don't want to go anywhere if you want to know how to do that and many, many other things. My guest today, excited to have Darren Shearer with me on the phone today. Darren, thank you for being available today for this interview. Well, when I saw that Nikita Kolob was willing to have me on the show, I couldn't miss that opportunity. You're such a big part of my childhood, you know, growing up watching wrestling on Saturday mornings. And it's just so exciting to see a lot of you icons from my childhood out there serving the Lord. So I'm excited to be here with you.

Yeah, it's a pretty interesting journey now on that note. So so where where did where are those early roots that like where'd you grow up? I grew up in Columbia, South Carolina.

Yeah, my dad is my pastor growing up. So I was a PK. A PK in Columbia. So immediately what comes to mind is the Township Auditorium. Oh, yes. Yes, indeed. I know you guys had a lot of events there. We had a lot of events, a lot of memories there at the Columbia Township Auditorium and some amazing fans.

That was a you know, it was a gigantic building, but it was just seemed to be set so right for pro wrestling. So. Oh, yes. Yeah, my dad actually most of my experiences there were pastors conferences, you know, where my dad was in there, you know, with the with the pastors and I was out there running around outside, you know, getting into trouble.

So that was my life growing up. No, PK. PK's got into trouble. Pastors kids got into trouble. No way. Come on. This one did for sure. You know, and you may or may not know this, a number of years ago, my youngest daughter Colby was part of a reality show called Preacher's Daughters.

Okay. Preacher's Daughters. And yeah, she was out of like 1200 families. She was kind of singled out her and a couple other girls.

One family from California, one from Chicago and her in season one. And but the concept, the idea you'll appreciate was to highlight what it's like to be the daughter of a pastor. Right.

And of course, you know, it was an amazing launching pad for her into a number of other things. But all that to say, you know, what she tried to illustrate more than anything was, yeah, you know, I know I'm the, you know, the child of a pastor. But, you know, you put us under the microscope, you put added pressure on us, you know, whether it comes from the family itself or just from people outside, you know, outside of the family. Right. And I'm sure you know exactly what I'm talking about. As a pastor's kid, you know, the added pressures right to keep toe the line, so to speak.

Correct. Yes, there is a lot of expectation there. And I wasn't really willing to submit to that in a lot of ways and was a prodigal son. Really, right up until September the 11th, 2001, I was in college and had seen what happened to the World Trade Center. And this sense of patriotism just rose up in me. And by lunchtime that day, I was down at the Commandant of Cadets Office at our ROTC program, said, sir, I'd like to join the Air Force.

And I really didn't have anything going for me at that time. But the Air Force needed people. And they said, we'll take you. And they commissioned me as an officer.

And the Lord just really leveraged that, like I said, that sense of patriotism to get me back on track with his plan for my life and just began to get discipled by a lot of the great people in the Air Force that I served with. And that was a major turning point in my life. Wow. It sounds like a real defining moment for you. Absolutely.

Yeah. I mean, I was just I had such a I was in such a pit of despair and purposelessness. And and, you know, Christianity didn't make sense. It just felt like, you know, sort of this thing that happens in a church building on Sunday morning.

It doesn't really make an impact, you know, in everyday life. And and that was one of the things that the Lord just gave me this sense of purpose that that he's so much bigger than just what happens in a church service, but that he really does want to invade every aspect of my life. Well, that's a pretty amazing story, because I know I feel confident to say there are listeners out there listening to the Man Up show right now, men and women alike, that that maybe they're out there trying to figure out their purpose. You know what, what role they play and what a blessing for you to, you know, kind of what I might call an aha moment right to to utilize what happened, something tragic like nine one one that opened your eyes. And thank you, by the way, for serving our nation. I always like, you know, just to show my appreciation for those who put the uniform on.

I appreciate that as well. And and so the military becomes a real defining moment in a catalyst for you to, as you said, get back on track in terms of the the bigger picture. What right, what God had God had in store for you. Right.

That's right. And and so I was serving in the military and but I was I still kind of had compartmentalize what ministry looked like just because what I had seen growing up was my dad's a pastor of ministry happens in church type programs or, you know, from a mud hut over in a third world country. And I was leaving the Air Force base after work one day, getting ready to go do some volunteer work through my church. And the Lord spoke to me and said, this base is your ministry. And that was another real paradigm shift in my life where I realized that the primary stewardship of the ministry that God had called me to and the assignment at that stage of my life was not, you know, doing these volunteer roles, filling these volunteer roles through my local church. But it was ministering and discipling the people that I worked with and spent the majority of my waking hours with in the workplace. And and so that really set me on a new trajectory in life to really discover what does it mean to partner with God in the workplace? And for most of us, that's in a for profit business setting, not in a church building.

Well, in fact, you bring up a very interesting point. I say it all the time. I said it recently at the church where I was speaking at in Northern Virginia. And I, you know, I said, if you'll check to my knowledge, you know, Jesus spent probably about 80 percent of his time out in what you're what you're referring to, what I call the marketplace, you know, and not nearly as much time in the synagogue.

You know, although he attended the synagogue and faithfully so, but where he did the majority of his ministry by by all accounts that I can tell was out in the market, but going to the home of publicans, as they call them. Right. Or or, you know, just all out, just out and about. And so that's pretty amazing. So at what point, Darren, did you transition? So so you spent so long. How long did you spend in the military then? I was in the Air Force for four years, spent some time in Kuwait, and then not long after I got back from Kuwait, my four years was I was about up. And then I took the G.I.

bill. And thank you, U.S. taxpayers for that pay for my education to go to. I went to seminary at Regent University, and then I went to business school at Pace University up in New York City. And I went into seminary not with the intent of going to plan a church or take over a church like a lot of my classmates had intended, which, by the way, most of my classmates are not working in business, which I find interesting. But I really wanted to know, I needed a theological foundation for what God was calling me to do, and I ended up starting something called the Theology of Business Institute, in addition to starting a publishing company at about the same time. So for the last 10 years, I've been on this journey of discovering and learning how to apply God's will for business. Well, which is so needed in today's world, and it brings to mind a scripture in 2 Corinthians 5, too, that as we have been reconciled back to the Father through Jesus Christ, that he gives each of us a ministry of reconciliation, and we are viewed as ambassadors for Christ, right? And so whether that's a calling to the pulpit in a platform like your dad had, or as I'm hearing you and listening to your story, a calling out into the marketplace.

And I'm looking, Darren, I'm looking at some of the things that, of course, you have done since leaving the military, and I just want to highlight a couple things for our listeners out there. Founder CEO of Highbridge Books and Media, a Christian publishing company that has published over 190 books since 2013. And of course, you're, you sow into or leads into Christian universities, and you mentioned, share some of the other things that you're involved in beyond the publishing company.

Yeah, yeah. So yeah, the publishing company really gives me an opportunity to work out some of this theology of business, and what does it mean to serve God in a for-profit company? So I'm a bit of a crash test dummy for, you know, some of those ideas that I see in the scripture. And so the Theology of Business Institute is the other big one, and I host a couple of podcasts, the Theology of Business podcast, as well as the Christianity in Business podcast for Houston Christian University, who also has a significant focus on training students and educating students to be Christian leaders to go out into business to serve God. And so that really has become my life's work because that's where 85 percent of the Christian workforce spends the majority of their waking hours is in a for-profit company. And the Great Commission is the same, whether you're standing behind a pulpit or standing behind a cash register or leading the meeting in a boardroom, it is to make disciples. You know, it's not just to go into all the world and make a profit or even to get people to pray a prayer of salvation, although those things are important, but it's to make disciples. And that's what we see Jesus modeling for us out there in the marketplace on the fishing boat. And so, you know, listener, what is your fishing boat where God has called you to make disciples and the place where you're spending the majority of your waking hours and those people that you're with, that's your assignment.

Well, and that's that's good, Darren. And, you know, immediately what comes to mind is my daughters, two of which currently are our stay at home moms. And when you say, you know, who's their disciples? Well, they've got I've got little grandkids running around who they're discipling on a daily basis.

Right. Just sowing into them and pouring into them and and ministering to them. And and and they have and they have business backgrounds like one daughter graduated from University of North Carolina, Greensboro. Another one was a nurse for many years before she started having children. And they just felt prompted, you know, to to to stay at home. Make that their if you want to say their full time job is raising their babies. And, you know, my grandchildren and my youngest daughter, Colby, who who the one who was featured on preacher's daughters moved on into a music career and and songwriter and that sort of thing.

But she's they're getting ready to have their first and and and her husband is fully supportive if she just wants to stay home and raise the raise the babies that that she's welcome to do that. And and so regardless, right, of your of your chosen field, you're listening to the Truth Network and Truth Network Dotcom. Nikita Koloff here and I am excited. Did you hear the huge announcement, the big announcement?

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Nikita will include a signed copy of his newly updated life story, A Tale of the Ring and Redemption. Go to www.koloff.net and donate today. You're listening to the Truth Network and truthnetwork.com. Now, let me ask you this, Darren, what would you say to the person listening out there? OK, you know, and you're right, the good majority of people are out in the marketplace, but maybe they feel somewhat, I don't know, you know, intimidated to share their faith or or, you know, maybe lack some boldness.

And what would you say to that person? You know, I'm reminded scripture says, you know, don't be ashamed of your testimony. What would you say is a word of encouragement to that individual, how they can maybe be more more bold in the marketplace with their faith? Yeah, well, the first thing I would say is that that living out your faith in the workplace, in the marketplace isn't just about sharing the gospel, you know, the Roman's road or having debates about creation versus evolution around the water cooler.

You know, because that's a very small percentage of of how we spend our time in the workplace. Most of it is, you know, dealing with conflict, most of it is getting ready for meetings, most of it is interacting with customers and clients. And one of the principles that I've really gotten a hold of is this principle. You see it in Colossians three twenty three.

Whatever you do, work at it with all your heart as serving the Lord, not men. And and so every that the principle is that Jesus is on the receiving end of everything we do in business. So it's not, again, just about getting people to pray a prayer of salvation, although that is that's really a good starting point, a good starting point.

Yeah, yes. But but even for Jesus's disciples, the starting point was just Jesus modeling his life in front of his disciples. And so, you know, Jesus said, if you've done it to the least of these, you've done it for me.

If you haven't done it to the least of these, you haven't done it for me. And so that that just opens up a whole new realm of possibilities for how we can serve God, honor God. Jesus is not just your CEO. Jesus is your entry level employee. Jesus isn't just the chairman of the board. Jesus is also your customer. Jesus is also your contractor that's so easy to take for granted. And so just recognizing that there's opportunities to serve Jesus and everything we do in business, not just trying to get people to pray a prayer of salvation.

Well, yes, right. Well, you say, I mean, you're hitting on the Great Commission, go out and make disciples. Now, I challenge people all the time. And, you know, when I first came, you know, give my life to the Lord in October 1993, the Lord over the period of a couple three, four, five years there, I was discipled. I just didn't launch right into ministry. I was I was discipled. And it was during that time of discipleship that the Lord put on my heart to be a soul winner. And so, you know, that's what Cold Off for Christ Ministries is about.

So winning. But at the same time, you know, as time goes on now, I'm like, OK, we win them to Christ. Now what? You know, where do we plug them in? You know, plug them into a church, plug them into a life group, Bible study.

What do we do to get them discipled? And so I love what you're what you're doing, your vision and and certainly what I hear, you know, the passion I hear in your voice about about, you know, for what you're doing. And so, you know, do you do so?

Let me ask you. I mean, of course, you've got the podcast and these other other outlets that you're doing. Do you do workshops?

Do you like how could, you know, people find out even find out just more about what you're doing there? Yeah, well, you know, what I just shared about Jesus being on the receiving end of everything we do in business is really the foundational hat that I talk about in this new book that I published this past year called The Christ Centered Company, which is accompanied by an assessment called The Christ Centered Company Assessment. So if you have influence in a company, I'd encourage you to go to theologyatbusiness.com and take that Christ Centered Company Assessment and rate your company in these different areas, because I really believe that, you know, certainly the Great Commission is to make disciples.

How does that actually happen? In a lot of ways, it happens by the Holy Spirit working through the culture of an organization, because the individuals will come and go, but the culture of that organization will remain and continue to get influenced by the individuals that work there. And so I just really believe that a Christ Centered Company is one of the most powerful forces for making disciples of Christ, or for that matter, making disciples of the ways of the world and the pattern of this world that Paul says don't conform to the pattern of this world. But, you know, people go to work in some of these companies and they just get influenced in all the wrong ways, but there are still Christ Centered Company owners out there that when people come into that company, they are not the same after they leave there.

They much more resemble the character and the ways of God as a result of being a part of that culture. So that'd be one way. It's getting a hold of that book, The Christ Centered Company. And I like, I'm just reading, so I'm looking at that 37 biblical business habits to build a thriving company that honors God and blesses the world. So if you're a business owner out there, certainly I would encourage you to get your hands on a copy of that book. And let's say you're just, you're not an owner, but you're an employee, I like this other book you've authored too, The Marketplace Christian, A Practical Guide to Using Your Spiritual Gifts in Business.

Take a minute and tell, you know, maybe they're an employee, they're not a business owner. How might that book benefit our listeners out there, Darren? Sure. Well, if you happen to believe that, as I do, that spiritual gifts are for today, that they didn't cease with the apostles as some believe, unfortunately. But that if you've taken a spiritual gifts assessment, typically the reason you've taken that is because your pastor wanted to figure out what's the best place for you to volunteer in our church. So if you score high in hospitality, you know, they want you to stand at the door, be a greeter, you know, and I'm all for that.

But what we have to do as believers and as Christian leaders is to help the people who are discipling turn that corner and to start to wrestle with this question of how are you called to use those spiritual gifts, whether administration or leadership or prophecy or teaching, evangelism, whatever it is, using that in your everyday life, which, again, is going to be primarily in a for-profit company is where most of us spend most of our waking hours. Well, that's very good. And one of the other things, you know, I opened up the show talking about, you know, proofreading, turning proofreading into a multi six-figure publishing company.

And, of course, as you have been sharing here and I shared earlier, so take a minute. How did that happen? So you're just proofreading some manuscripts and you're like, had an idea, God gave me an idea to turn it into a publishing company or how'd that happen? Yeah, so I was teaching academic writing when I was in seminary through our university writing center there at Regent and I had an English degree. And but when I was in business school in New York City, it was all about, you know, starting the next Facebook or, you know, just starting the next big tech startup that's going to be the unicorn that all the venture capitalists want to invest in. And I was kind of spinning my wheels trying to figure out, you know, what's the unicorn that I'm supposed to start? And the Lord just simply said to me, kind of like he said to Moses, what's that in your hand? And I said, well, Lord, I've got some proofreading experience.

He's like, well, give me that. And so the company Highbridge Books is named after the Highbridge, which was in my neighborhood back in New York City. It connects the Bronx to Manhattan and it was built as an aqueduct to bring water into the city back in the eighteen hundreds. And the Lord just gave me this vision that this company would be like an aqueduct to bring life giving stories and messages to people.

And so that's what we've been doing over the last 10 years. You've got a lot of incredible resources that people can can can tap into. What do you see? What what's what consumes the majority of your time or, you know, where do you want where do you where do you want people to what do you want people to take away the most from from from this conversation today? Yeah, well, I would say first, if you've got a book to publish for the glory of God, definitely head over to Highbridge Books dot com. And if you are influencing a company, as I would venture to guess, most people listening are get a hold of that book, The Christ Centered Company, and begin to, you know, take some folks from your from your office or from your factory, wherever you work through that book and begin to wrestle with, you know, what does it mean to apply biblical values, biblical principles and habits to where they begin to characterize the culture of the organization, which makes it a better reflection of the glory and the image of God, which is going to result in more disciples in the Great Commission being fulfilled. So I'm hearing, you know, your passion, you have a real passion for impacting the marketplace, and my guess is, you know, an owner could get the Christ Centered, get that book Christ Centered Company gleaned from it and then perhaps even even be motivated.

Now, what would would do or do you maybe a better question? Do you come in and do actual workshops for companies and that sort of thing? Yes. And I'll be doing a workshop in Houston in April. And and I actually have a some peer advisory groups that are going through the Christ Centered Company virtually over Zoom. OK. And so even if it's not in your local area and you're interested in joining one of those groups, certainly reach out and and we'll get you involved. Well, I'm excited. You know, any time I get the opportunity to talk with someone like yourself who's outside of the four walls of the church. Right. You know, many times, you know, like like you talked about, you know, there's certainly ways that you can serve an impact inside the four walls.

But but the majority of our time is spent outside those four walls. And so High Bridge Media dot com, High Bridge Books dot com and Theology of Business dot com. What's the name of your podcast in case you want to go in and plug into it?

Yeah, the Theology of Business podcast and also the Christianity in Business podcast that I host for Houston Christian University. So you're doing you Darren, you've got a lot of hats you're wearing. Yes, sir. And we've got three boys and an amazing wife. And, you know, she she takes care of those boys, homeschools them. And and we're just we're just loving life and being able to do it all from home.

That's also been amazing. And you're located up in the western foothills of North Carolina, correct? That's right. We're in the Smoky Mountains, just about 30 minutes west of Asheville in a town called Waynesville. Well, we're kind of in Maggie Valley, as you mentioned. You had been at a church here recently, which I wish I had known because I'd have definitely been there. They'll bring me back.

They'll bring me back. Well, Darren Shear, that's that's that's amazing. Your bride's name is? Marie. Marie and and and your three boys. How old are they? What are their names?

They are 10, eight and five. And it's Solomon, Armand and Dominic. I love it. Well, that's that's amazing. And so you're doing a great work, Darren. It's been an honor. It's been a privilege to have you on the Man Up show today. And I want to encourage all of you out there. I mean, if you spend any time at all in the marketplace, you're going to want to tap into some of these resources that Darren is making available. And there's there's so much more certainly we could have talked about. But I'm going to challenge the listeners there and to go go go look you up and and purchase some of those books and tune into your podcast and and and impact and let them be impacted in that regard. So thank you for being a part of the show today.

I've really enjoyed it, Nikita. Thanks for helping us all to Man Up. Well, at the end of the day.

Right. For for us, man, that's the goal. It's Man Up to be a godly man, godly husband and a godly father. So thank you, Darren. And thank all of you for tuning in week in and week out. Go out today and live a God filled, God blessed day.

Until next time. This podcast is made possible by the grace of God and your faithful prayers, support and generous gifts. May God bless you for your continual contributions. Go to Kolob.net and donate today. If you are enjoying the Man Up show, would you help us spread the word? Tell your family, tell your friends, tell your neighbors to download, subscribe and leave a comment. I, Nikita Kolob, be sure to check out the Man Up show now available on television, broadcast and podcast. Go to MorningStarTV.com or the Truth Radio Network. Check out your local listings or better yet, download the Truth Network app today. Nikita Kolob here.

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