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May 22, 2021 12:00 pm
Nikita is with Kannapolis, NC based entrepreneur Rocky Wagner, a friend of many years, talking about his involvement in the NASCAR scene, as well as his miraculous conversion to Christ at 62-years-old, after a lifetime of prayers from his mother.
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Welcome back to it's time to man up with the Russian what I always say that the devil's nightmare neck cuticle off and it's up river a privilege of privilege and a pleasure to have this man in the studio with me today. Rocky Wegner are we go we go way back to Rocky. Welcome to condominium thinking I'm going to bring it. It's it's great to have you here, you know I'm always intrigued you got a fascinating story is what I want to have you in the studio that we were talking before one on air with with our main man Robbie here and we're just talking about you know people when they when they give their life to Jesus, you know, kind of the age range on that in your an anomaly is the right term, but maybe it is a least a small percentage don't want to talk about your store that story of how you came to the Lord, but before I get there we go back any idea how far we go back 1015 years. Around 10 or 12 years at least. Okay, that we when we met through mutual friends and we got a live near each other is and we been involved over the years and some some different business ventures. Some things together exactly sure who you have been gracious enough. I know course. Your people hurt me are.
This is a very talk about man camp and over and over and over again, but your marketplace got your your your out there in in the world your grinding it every day you get a variety of things over the years. One of the things you have for many many years was a T-shirt business and you provided are man camp with with shirts, of which a very, very grateful and thankful for the Telus will kiss you got a history with NASCAR right yes sir, what's that.
Let's also look about that story when Nikita we we start out a little sporting goods store in Kannapolis back in the 70s. I work for my father's name was Bob Wagoner and he was a baseball coach football coach everybody knew daddy and my brother Bobby is seven years younger than me. He went to Daytona following Dale Earnhardt Senior and you know in a little hometown of Kannapolis. We had little sporting the store we were doing team business but and we were we were getting by me my first paycheck. I remember after taxes was $97.97. Seven dollars attack in the 70s but anyway my brother went to Daytona when he came back home. He said we are in their own business, as was going on than her body, said man is honors. Also, many people my life and they were buying shirts and hats and T-shirts and so we found some folks that were NASCAR or car related artist and we got involved in printing our own T-shirts and things like that with racecars and so we just took off out there on the circuit and we found it pretty quick that are artists and artwork that we had was well received and we started you know, little orders here and there and and would one race after another, and then a few years later I ran into a guy named Bill Badal who started collegiate concepts in Atlanta and he did licensing for all the college folks and NASCAR hired him to do their marks and we ran into Bill actually an Daytona race and he said rock you need to come to Atlanta.
These designs you have are also men. But next year these things are going to a licensed product don't have a license you bend the bootleg business so I basically said I wanted to get Atlanta. That's what we did with Atlanta. Bill was super nice gave me my eye was the second want to get an apparel lots will NASCAR and then it took off from there we I know it and getting to know you over the years and I mean I knew you were doing major major business in the course limited Kannapolis, North Carolina, your ear, and that the Mecca of of NASCAR racing, in fact correctly were wrong. Dale Earnhardt Senior born and raised in Kannapolis got exactly he was working out of out of his house. Overall I believe is coach straight and I think his mom Martha.
I'm pretty sure that she's still living in the same house, but his dad got started there and then he came up through the channels and he got started there and in the AE just turn into a superstar yet I did after I now not a big NASCAR fan or follower per se, but I live in the with you.
I live in the heart of it in and for those listening out there.
If you're ever traveling through can Snifter a lot. If we should start stop at the Dale Earnhardt plans that have your picture taken with his his broad statute right exactly so so you have this this race. This racing your eye and you how many races races here were would you go if you typically back that I'm in the in the heyday yeah back in the heyday that was a rice almost every weekend somewhere.
I think they they had a weekend off my before Mother's Day and things like that but it started in February and Daytona and it ended in the maybe Homestead, Florida late in the season is maybe 3233 rices around six almost every weekend while it is so you are in and Chris Utrecht. You traveled all over all the races really had the corporate trailer that we ran and we set on track properly and then we had another little trailer that we had and we settle on across the street on private property but with our NASCAR licensing.
We were able to sell product on both sides of the street and it worked out really well for us was able to do Daytona 500. Merchandise Talladega super Speedway merchandise Darlington in the back in the day when I had all the characters you know you awesome Bill from Dawsonville and Dale Earnhardt the intimidator in and you know Darrell Waltrip knows guys it was it was really, really popular back then and and he did know from one race to the other who was going up get the other one are buying the other one, or throw a helmet or whatever and so it was, it was neat the fans are just went crazy over that Stephanie is hard to get a ticket. I remember going to Bristol in the night race and somebody said that at raveled a Super Bowl ticket back in the day.
It was hard to get a ticket that's amazing.
I know I want to one race back in the day the Coca-Cola 600 in Charlotte and I was up in the Coca-Cola sweetened and kind to your point, I'm watching the crowd in the in the suite.
They're not really watching the race there talking and eating and tell there is the potential of a rafter that everyone raced over to the windows to see if they could see the wrapped writer or the potential raft and I thought what is it that interesting sky like those used to go to the old days, a hockey game took to see the fight not lots of us to see the game but the see the fight right but so that's that's how did you get the opportunity to then meet a lot of the guys love the racers and what will you in our travels, we would sleep because I mean, when you're out on the rice circuit is is is, everybody's Kelly closely together resident families a close knit family. Even though the racecar drivers when it got rice in time I say what Dale Earnhardt he was a he was a really nice man in the butt when it came race day. That's what they call human. The intimidator, it was he was here unless everything flipped in the email you are you I got a Dale how you doing him a look at your may not.
He may not even run at you but he was having a got technology technology. Yes, he was a quite the character but he was really my nice man.
He did a lot of the things that behind-the-scenes with churches and folks in that lot of people didn't hear about know about, but he he was a really good guy.
You know it. I doubt it made a good wrestling name for me the intimidator how you know you had the Russian nightmare held that a satellite you know but what the intimidator is, here's what's funny rock is is I mean every not every day but lately got an autograph signing recently in Hickory, North Carolina and this guy comes up and is like to you scared me to death when I was a kid. You know I was so scared so scared you so afraid of you. You know as well. Not now but but apparently I did a little intimidating about hold back on. So that reminded Come match time. You know it was it was game face on for me to so II get that I get how how Earnhardt Buchanan flipped the mindset there's so less. That's wild now. Now I know to you got tested pretty much documented shift to omit your final. You lovely wife your lovely bride Shelley and course you know some your your children and I believe that some now if you had success in the marketplace but you had. I know at least once a very athletic son that they had had some success at the pro baseball level right is in my right yes sir all my boys were athletically gifted then, but that and there's five of them total and they all play different sports. Chris played quarterback. He was a quarterback at the high school. John was a golfer.
Daniel played baseball. Zach played basketball. Hunter was arrest for so everyone I was in Denver that in then Daniel. He he liked music he ended up going to Belmont University in Nashville, Tennessee.
Okay. Then University.
He played baseball there, and his Junior he got drafted in the 16th round, mother Chicago White Sox. Okay. And so he pretty did he play pro ball he played in the minor leagues for six years he made all the way to AAA and after that season was over with. He decided he wanted get into some other businesses that he had dreams about me ended up partnering up with one of his teammates.
A guy named Jody Pinto. He was from LA they started the business in LA and that's where they're at now and then I just recently got married is gotta get another grandbaby on the way. But yes, they are all my boys played sports and they all were really good athletes and everything that they did and they're all good boys I guess. I realize you had, you had all boys where where I had all girls so I tell people I didn't swim in the Pacific Ocean or the Atlantic Ocean or even the Indian Ocean, but I swam for years in the estrogen ocean sell you. You had a mother with all that testosterone racing through your home where I had estrogen since your mind, self sold.
That's what it is. So he's followed and in dad's footsteps in terms of being a businessman and and successful author in the marketplace. Pretty much all of them have their there they get different feels Chris is a real estate agent can't John is a screenprint and imported companies gotta partner Marty Cox great family. My son Zach. He works with John Daniels and LA Hunter is a welder for a company call Alcor and so they all the mother all been successful in business and they work harder, hard workers, that's a metal hold. Athol and I want to pick up right there we come back. Hold that thought Nikita coffee. Or if you're needing to buy a car and have marginal credit and considering using buy here pay here that's worse than taking the Russian sickle Winston-Salem motorcars who put you behind the wheel of a car you can rely on while helping rebuild, repair or establish your credit score conveniently located on Silas Creek Pkwy. in Winston-Salem. Be sure to check them out today at W.
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The number one.com because you are number one Alameda Green warming me tile from the carpet get that right now number one in the readers with the apartment thing. This is Nicole and I want to thank lemons carpet for supporting my new show manner Saturday afternoon. 1230 truth network will look back. It's time to man up here talking in the studio with Rocky Wegner, a dear, dear friend of mine in and I were just Rocky were just talking about your boys.
Here's what's interesting to me as well. So they all play different sports and now they're essentially all of the different businesses as well. That's got an interesting parallel there it is.
They it. You know you don't yet they don't you know you don't know when you coming up. A lot of times what you going to get into what direction you're going, you know, when you're young, They Found Their Way, Zach he he did a lot of different, job work to the pizza place in and in a different just different things and Chris started out mowing grass and ended up in the real estate business, so they'll been in different units. The different little job always told was if you got a job, keep that job defined some butternut wit you keep working always worked hard, always whether you sweep and for what I reviewed your best effort. Somebody will notice you now and all good things come out of that just put this particleboard sounds like it hasn't some great advice from you and and of course in the time I've known you, you been at you had a strong work ethic and so obviously that has parlayed you to to your sons and in the course that has certainly led to to their success and you know it's interesting rock for me as we got to know each other over the years and in one of the reason I want to have you and have you on the show. What I'm really intrigued by. As you know, I want to transition here and talk about from your family to talk really about your faith is a man out in the marketplace was a man of faith and you have a pretty amazing story, because I know all statistically and I don't know all the exact numbers for all the listeners out there. Don't quote me on these numbers guy don't know the exact numbers but I do know this, that the opportunity or the chance of of someone coming to faith in Jesus Christ. The odds are the percentages or cry publishing to research this, but there there much higher when somebody's younger saying there their youth or their teenager early years and then the numbers began to really kinda dwindle down and and they they say whoever they write the experts. They say the older you get, the less likely or that the smaller percentage are less likely chance that somebody will come to faith in the Lord, but you have a pretty unique story and that you grew up around it, you kind of talked about faith in Jesus. But something happened just just a few years ago. If the age of 62 yes or something happened that really chance. Warmed your life.
Can you share a little bit of Esther with her listeners. Nikita first thing I'd like to think of my mom. She's 89 years old and she prayed for me from the time I was born so to the listers.
Don't ever give up praying for someone that you love or you care about God may not answer those prayers and only on your time, but it does it on his time I was in and out of church all my life I had to three different times when I was called to the altar and I didn't go. I almost went but I didn't go I was straddling the fence, we might say or I was afraid I was going to miss a partier in the VN or something and I wasn't sure how my friends would take it if I profess to be a Christian or this and that and so I just went on about my life in the just working. I worked hard, but I wasn't a very good father in the faith department. I never did really teach my kids a lot about Jesus. I wish I would have. I do now but as time went home and life goes on. You only get so many opportunities come to the Lord in what happened to me is my preacher now at Jackson Park Baptist Church in Kannapolis had me to do some short for a mission trip and I did the short form they love them in one of the guys that I used to play softball with Harry Mills the rock you want to come to church with us, you'd love you love our Sunday school class week, we have a great time with you.
Come with us during all this time that he was asking me to come to church an hour doing all these shirt I was having a rough time at home memo wife was struggling my fault.
I just went live in like I needed to be live in, and so basically I want to church that morning I went to Sunday school that morning and I was sitting in my Sunday school class and Harry Mills sit behind me and my other my Sunday school teacher lifted to Wiggins.
It was a great ballplayer in his own right. Both these guys were all Americans and in sports.
They were great ballplayers but Harry sit behind me and he said when I was out in the world doing what I wanted to let it have a conscience after I said to myself and says me this way.
I am up at us do what I want to read don't have a conscience about things that I do so I left church that morning.
I was miserable. Nikita and like I said, my wife and she was planning on leaving the next week we had a terrible fuss on Saturday night and I did and made up my mind I will and going by the church and that I got that morning I went to church and when I went to my Sunday school class that morning. My Sunday school teacher lifted to Wiggins broke out the 10 Commandments and I'm sitting in my seat and I heard the spirit of the Lord said rock if you don't come to me today.
I'm done with you, and I started shaking in my chair. Shortly after that our class is over with and I was that I was a total wreck and I asked lift the acid lefty I need is talk to you in private. We went a little room beside our Sunday school class or the ladies were and everybody was headed to the church and he could hear the choir singing in so we got in this little room in lefty shut the door and he said what was going on I said on the Jesus I set up. If I die right now and will mail and on the Lord in my heart and he symbolist praying. So he started praying for me. Nikita and when I said Lord I need you all will be obedient to you and I will live for you. The rest of my life.
Please dear Jesus coming to my heart and save me and when I said that at that particular moment. That little room that were in it just got completely silent in there. I didn't hear the choir singing anymore.
All felt was a Holy Spirit and I knew right then that I had gotten saved and when I left that room and went into the church and the preacher came gave the altar call and I had already been save you know just a few minutes or so prior but when he gave it altar call Nikita. I'm not sure exactly how I got up to the front of the church. I can't.
I don't know if I ran no other. So I got the really fast Sprint did yesterday Joy make the public and found went to the meltdown does fellow and alter my preacher came over and he said was going rock. Yes, I just got saved Osama Sunday school yeah I couldn't wait to tell everybody about what it happened to me and I will be 66 the 22nd of this month will be four years I got saved on 723 of 17 and I've been like this thing is and thank the Lord well and I want to just interject right the Rocky and the last few minutes together because what blesses my heart is in the time we spent together since we spent lots of time together prior. In fact I got invited you to campuses of the bank absent different things. I've been involved in the past you like yeah maybe I'll do that are like to see your life transformation like a real counter and transformation is just blesses my heart and I know to one thing I know from you is you share this with me now many times is that everyone you get up you like, or bring somebody across my path that I can share this story with and he does write he brings them across your path. Nikita almost every day without fail.
Somebody comes my way and it's kind of neat because most of the time I get to see these folks may be somewhat out of the business were before and I get to tell my store but is always enough. A little place were off to the side maybe and I really get the witness to warm about the Lord and tell him what what unit the Lord did for me in this just a blessing and he just keeps blessing me and I this and I try to do the best I can on the database without putting him first in everything that I do and when I did that and I got out of the way he took over man that's a great way to phrase that right there.
Let me just say to before we run out of time. I want to just for our listeners got completely restored your marriage. If I guess I'm just can have to have you back sometime with talk about this is got completely restored your marriage once you made that decision and so that's another testimony in and of itself exactly that all this. All the opportunities you haven't rock that's a message to all of us of your audit. You're not a preacher you're not getting go to seminary your out of the marketplace every day.
But being a witness for Jesus which really anyone in all and end all of us.
You know should be doing more of that.
Not just leaving it up to the preacher on the Sunday morning or maybe of a broadcaster, even a podcast right that all of us should we have that real genuine relationship with Jesus like you're doing it is just out there just sharing your story right and I don't have a lot of time left by Ida. I know you seen it sowing the seeds of being a witness in a you it's impacted a lot of people's lives. Nikita, let me say this to the list or this Nada is not ahead changes. A heart change tomorrow when he gets a hold of your heart you will want to do the things that you used to do you want that you will want to act like used act changes you in the blink of an eye. He changes your heart and that's work that is the heart transformation that's that's good Rocky, that's it. A great way to kinda wrap up our our show today that it parallels compromise my story. When that when that story moved the 18 inches from my head down to my heart. 17. October 1993, my life changed in 62 years. Also just be encourage your will. Rocky said don't ever stop praying for others praying for those loved ones praying for those coworkers praying for your friends.
Don't ever stop praying and what you 62 or or your six or to any age that God moves upon your heart, you can come to Jesus and surrender your life to Jesus and today would be as good a day as any to make today your day of salvation. Rocky thanks for coming to the studio really appreciates income allocated IQ will fortunately her and thankful and thanking the Lord that I'm able to share my story to a lot of different people this morning. Well, your your your great friend and I and I'm trusting and believing as the show travels around the world that some as you listen your story relate to your story and Lord only knows what it may only be in heaven.
When we finally realize that the results of our testimony are witness to others, but I want to thank you for joining.
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