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Mike & Robby get real-zee.  Anger.  It's an emotion that is pretty normal.  But, is anger ALL bad?  Listen and find out. 

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Your chosen Truth Network podcasts starting in just a few seconds. Enjoy it, share it, but most of all, thank you for listening and for choosing The Truth Podcast Network. This is the Truth Network welcome to If Not for God stories of hopelessness that turn to hope. Your host Mike Zwick. If not for God today with Mike Zwick is been a while. Mike since we've had a chance. I'm really glad to be back together. The summers over now here we are, believe, and not in October right were six weeks away from the election, maybe five.

But you know how many days it exactly is November 30 about close to five without run five weeks in an Mike you got a really if not for God kinda topic this week and God put Ecclesiastes, of all things in your heart.

Ecclesiastes 79 and it says be not quick in your spirit to become angry, for anger lodges in the heart of fools and one of the things I thought about Robbie this week. I actually heard a sermon and the guy was talking about being angry, but that the pastor was also talking about there. There's he said there's a fine line. He said between being a good listener, listening to people who disagree with you on being respectful, trying to be a peacemaker, but then also.

Also, on the other hand, standing up for what you believe in and not letting people walk all over you right now with anyway that was released and I didn't want presidential breaks honestly but I have seen enough soundbites to know if there's a lot of comments about this like is this just out and out rudeness. Is this just horrible behavior. Or is this people that are being passionate about what they believe in and standing up for what they believe in, on, you know what they considered to be, you know the day yeah the youth certainly had an array of opinions this week on this and you know people said while they the president. The president of former vice president were interrupting each other and a lot of people said that Chris Wallace was taking the side of the abide in it was this that the other and you know maybe a lot of that is true, but I had a friend of mine say yesterday. He said Mike he said can you imagine if somebody was in Russia watching this debate or somebody was in China watching this debate he said was pretty embarrassing with just you know where you know one person has two minutes, the other person has two minutes just let the other guy talk, you know but but it was it was tough and you know you you because you know a lot of people feel like the president made a lot of good points but they you know, they also feel like maybe sometimes he shoots himself in the foot by maybe not being respectful and us. Maybe some people thought that Biden made some good points on sure there's somebody out there who thought thanks that but the but yeah I mean it you know we we kind of come to time in society.

I believe where things are no longer cordial. You know I I I saw a survey recently and it said that in 2000, 50% of people thought who won the election was really important.

This year it's 83% and end so you can kinda see whichever way it goes where people are just getting really angry you seen you know you've seen a lot of stuff in the streets with the Breanna Taylor after the verdict came out. People were in a rioting after that there been fires in California and Oregon and and and I hear a lot of people saying that a lot of the fires are being set by people and and a lot of people are angry because they feel like their local government is not stopping a lot of the violence in their there just kind of letting go, but you know unfortunately this is what were talking about before Robbie and in in life. A lot of times there's no easy answers. There's another part in in Scripture where it says be angry but send not, do not let the sun go down on your anger, and so at some point I think you said you would actually run an airplane one time right now as a great story you know is your tongue about the presidential debate somebody was over in China and they were watching matter of the rush, I couldn't help but think that you if those same people were watching the Delmore family on vacation they would be totally like that looks horrible. People are fighting constantly right but the truth is is that when we get real with each other that then that's the only way that really there ends up being real peace in the Delmore family is when people have the courage to say that really bothers me the way you're whistling or whatever this is going on when you put people in close proximity on vacation.

It's a great time to find out what really is going on and I would be embarrassing from somebody on the outside but the good news is people getting real and so the truth is that there's a lot of things a bit upsetting a lot of people that have not come out and so is these things are coming out if there truly bothering people then if it's coming out in the light that the place where God can work on it. If we want to get that out so yeah what happened to me in it. It would sound like a horrible example, but it turned out to be really kinda critical to my family's heart, but my brother-in-law Mike, my wife's brother killed himself. It was horrible. It was very violent when he didn't and I would point out that neither Biden or Trump hit the other guy gets. It was a very were socially because that's although although it might've been different. So there was any violence and so there's a big difference in people protesting in people burning. There's a big difference between people get really angry over what's going on and people that are living you will be just there's all sorts of ones there, but in this case we are get off this plane and is where get off the plane I'd with this point, children really small and have all much on this.

Robbie and Tess. Robbie is about to and I had a hold of test and she was about six months and is were standing in the aisle try to get off the plane. My wife's says this guy behind me keeps hit me in the back side with this with his briefcase. She didn't use that word but that's what she said and I was like, 000, you know, when I was obviously be here on the back of my neck went up a little bit. But as we came to the front of the plane. We saw place in first class we could stand aside us to come in here is obviously a big hurry to let him go by so is he goes by in a rather just let it go he has to say. You need to take care your brats in which you know I'll be honest, I'm one of those people that will quickly flare amino knife W and you and you looked at him and you said, I'll pray for you know I did not say that you know I was under that jetway clearly tells the story like you dropped to live. I know I put her down. I'd just drop her but she got to the ground because I had to go follow us Jetway what point I flipped him around and he was not a big guy compared to me of you know me I'm 65, 240 pounds guy was about 52 and maybe hundred and 10 and before he knew it. You know he was in a quickly accosted and pushed and before I knew it within 20 seconds. That there were sky marshals, which are very very adept at what they do. They put me in some kind of luck like that.

I had no idea what you are all I knew I was like one second I was wailing on this date in the next minute I was in some got a headlock to me had us over on you know in the airport and on the seat right there at the gate and the like are you they call me down eventually. You need to calm down the street.

You can picture the scene and they let us go on. I didn't go to jail or anything, but what that did for my wife's heart right was. This became like the Delmore like it was like I know that I'm important enough that my husband will fight for me and and that he is passionate about what he feels about us and he's to silent somebody walk over us.

It was a bad thing. And of course everybody was laughing about it. However, there still something underneath it. Like God gave us that ability to be in anger and use that to protect people and and honestly I believe it's part of your masculinity and and a God-given deal and and so there's a lot of people that when they look at that in the end they're looking for leadership. We don't want somebody that's going to back down from a you know a fight necessarily when you got the things going on in this country that are going on right right and in is matter fact I was when I was away for the week. I looked up.

I open up the Bible and I said Lord speak to me and it was Joel chapter 3, starting in verse nine it says proclaim me this among the Gentiles, prepare war wake up. The mighty men let all the men of war draw near, let them come up beat your plowshares into swords and your pruning hooks into spears.

Let the weak say that I am strong, assemble yourselves and come all ye heathen and gather yourselves together.

Roundabout for their cause thy mighty ones to come down the Lord let the heathen be wakened and come up to the valley of Jehoshaphat for their will. I sit to judge all the heathen roundabout and so even Solomon even said this, he says there is a time for war and there is a time for peace.

You know, and in Jesus said himself.

He said it was in Matthew chapter 5 he said blessed are the peacemakers, and so I think that we, there is a line is were we do try to be a peacemaker and we don't just wheat. We know people who lose their cool liver over nothing. A lot of those people end up in prison and they end up and up there for the rest of their lives and so we all know that it's not. It's not good to go to that extreme but on the other hand, we, you know that there does come a time where we do need to stand up and in one of the things that that I had that I have seen I actually had a dream while I was on vacation and in my dream I was in a class and there was a guy believe it was a Muslim guy. Another of another religion. I'm not sure which one but I think he was Muslim and he was teaching whatever he was teaching I was in the class and he found some Christian papers and they were mine. I knew they were mine and he goes whose release and I didn't say anything and then I woke up it was one of the worst feelings I've ever had in my life because there there does come a time to stand up for Jesus and there does come a time when even Jesus said he those who those will be saved. One can love their wives to the death you know he says whoever whoever is ashamed of me says I will be ashamed of them in front of my father in heaven who is whoever is not ashamed of me.

I will be ashamed of them in front of my father so one of the thing. I think people think of violence or anger, stuff like that. One of the ways not to shrink back is to stand up for Jesus. And I'm sure we've all had times, and I'm sure you had a time in your life Robbie where it may not of been very popular but you had to say yes you were Christian. Well, it was a fascinating thing that God is training us. There's no doubt in being sons of the kingdom because it's it's coming. We don't win, but the good news is that it that it is covered and I love that dream because I think I've had similar once were, had a feeling of what that felt like when the moment came not to rise up in the moments come so and when I was general manager at the Chrysler store here in Winston.

I had a Bible study every week we put this message on hold thing with the help of God were to become listen and so I was a very open first. I did own the dealership.

I was impressed of the corporation, but the dealership was owned by two other people here in Winston-Salem and I had no idea this really a bit offended them that we had put this message on hold and that we are having a Bible study every week and there dealership really had no idea will one day know that they told me that I needed to fire an employee that I didn't really want to fire and unfortunately that employee had a heart attack that weekend before I fired it was like they told me Friday night and watch the fire this person on Monday or Saturday that person has aren't. Did you fire them in front know they wanted me to farm on Monday. They told me Friday fire him on Monday. The good news is you never had fire and so Saturday has aren't so Monday I called them the owners didn't work on Saturday that it is beyond him anyway so by call.

The one owner I was closer to and said no G this a difficult situation, but Tim Sharp had a hard excuse me miss mentions name. He had a heart attack over the weekend and you know I can't fire a guy when he's in the hospital and they said well will get back to you. And so it wasn't about 20 minutes later they called me and said we want to have a meeting so they come over to my office there at the dealership over the owners and they sit down. I said well you don't have to fire him but we have a few conditions for. I said okay. What's that negative wall number one, you can have any more Bible studies in the dealership. You can never mention God in any sales meeting. You can't.

You gotta take the message awful and of the world works is with the help of God. We don't want God's name mentioned by you in the dealership ever get. And so you know there are what your dream come true. My get there you are here at and it was interesting thing that you know I listened I Bible actually must've been in on Ecclesiastes does, it was not slow to anger nor you know and I got together all my friends and said let's pray about this and see what God says and what God said clearly to us was you don't own this facility and and they do and you work for them and this is what you're required to do and so do it.

You can have a Bible study anywhere you want to have it and you can proclaim your faith anywhere.

You have to, but what they said you don't do it when you don't do it at me miss just how it works in an and it seemed completely, so we did. We remove our Bible study off actually to the right over there behind first assembly.

They have the Piedmont. Whatever over there we move the Bible study. I didn't stop offending them and eventually they did fire me.

So I got you anyway. However, you go to my knowledge I don't think I ever mentioned. Gotta get another sales meeting. I I'd I pipe completely complied with what they did, however, we didn't stop sharing the love of God and in the beautiful thing is as I mentioned before years later. You know I had reports.

People would come back. That worked at that dealership and they would say tell Robbie that I came to Christ or tell Robbie that I and these things would come back to me that clearly there was fruit that went on. Years later, because of those things where we are obedient both to the owners, and so you're gonna get you know if you stand up and start to playmate your gonna find yourself and those in most situations, but is really cool. God will be with you when things start to unravel and really help you navigate through.

Where do you stand up and where do you not stand regret not standing up for doing a Bible study met I would've regretted terribly.

Had I not stood up and said no I'm not fire this guy in the hospital is had a heart attack which is really what they want me to do it wanted to fire the will. One of the one of the stories of this is what I always think about is when I was a relatively new Christian and my friends from college were atheists or agnostics or whatever and we all kinda got together one day and we were sit around talking, whatever. And this one guy was saying something about Christians and all you know it's chemically people believe that stuff you know giving 10% of your money to the to God or whatever III got some stuff that you could you give 10% your body do they be invested in something or this or that, but I remember they were talking also got quiet and I said I'm a Christian and they just died laughing and was interesting as I remember how it felt. It was it was and I've had this feeling before. It's like as I stood up and they laughed, and I remember what was done I was like that's it that's all you got to be a lot worse than this and it kinda reminds me a lot of days night you get up and I I go out and sell insurance and I I you know that we have leads but I knock on people's doors in the you know when I first get there.

Sometimes your yellow nervous and you're in and it's like you knock on the door you talk to somebody and then something happened like I was. It is that what I was so worried about.

I mean, but you know Jesus and in in chapter in Matthew chapter 6 think it was it in verse 25 will go there.

Matthew 625. He says therefore I tell you, do not worry about your life what you will eat or drink, or about your body, what you will wear. Is not life more than food and the body more than clothes look at the birds of the air, they do not sow or reap or gather into barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not much more valuable than they are even some of the stuff that we've talked about on the radio. We had we had we had some people on Dana. We had Dana on and we had you not had a friend of mine named Art friend of yours went Wayne and and we've we've talked about some different stuff, and in one of the things that I think that we have to be careful of is that it's good to be prepared. It's good to plan and and we all try to do that but not to be in a state of fear not to be in a state of fear. It it it says that I think my wife was Tony. She said it says so many times in the Bible do not fear.

Fear not. And so one of the conversations you are you are having Robbie before was you said it's good to hear these things. I'm glad I heard them but you said after you listen to them. Are you now in a state of fear.

After you listen to them or are you full of hope writing in really important to me personally is what's my unity with Christ right this minute as result of what's going on and the cool thing is that it really caused me to go study. Fear a lot more and the you know the fear the Lord is the beginning of wisdom right so there is a fear that is really called upon by God that the you know he really wants you to the words you are in in the Hebrew and its critical to go okay. I've got these two bosses.

Should I be afraid of them or should be afraid of God. You know it, and in by the same token I'm hearing these prophecies.

But I'm also hearing you know the media talk about all the unrest I'm hearing all these things and and but where where is God and that they where. Where is God and that and and this may be a little bit of a different perspective, but I guess because of the way my family is, you know, they'll tell you when they're mad at you in and and they'll tell you when you did something that hurt their feelings and that's uncomfortable and it causes conflict, and sometimes really open conflict between brothers and sisters, however it's real right. Nobody is nobody's feelings are not clearly addressed and everybody has a chance to really know where I stand. As you know, it just doesn't feel good to be around somebody that you offended but they don't want to tell you because it will hurt your feelings will hurt my feelings. Please because I don't want you to be offended know and let's be real. I mean, you know how you really feel well. If you believe what I just said you can look at all this unrest may be in a different light, like wow, maybe it's really important that these people that have felt offended for a long time really share how they feel are not single out and burner you know do anything violent and I certainly don't want my kids to kill each other.

But I really do want to share how they feel and I and I do really want them to give us a chance to have a conversation get it in and out in the open and let's really talk about it so there's a healthy aspect to what's going on if if we seize the day of my opinion, if we go okay you're upset and I don't know why you and I'm one of the blessed people. I guess that get to teach special needs barred if I was student his name is Logan and he's a gift from God. I mean if you were to meet Logan. The look in his eyes you would see God. I mean he's the happiest person I ever met my life goes out and gets people trash. I just he delights me in every every time I get a chance to talk to an end at the end of every lesson we Logan always tells a joke that's his deal that his parents have given him and he's written about and he'll always laugh because it's funny but if you ask Logan letter that joke means what he does expose the lab yet he's got always but of the thing is, he's just not aware of certain things in his life goes just God gave them the gift of not being able to see that right right and and so we special needs while, as you never look to this but is there some studies have been done about illnesses in the Bible and people are probably you know some way, and there's a lot of people that suspect based on a lot of data on Sampson that he was autistic. Okay because he ate 20 food writing at the fruit on the line.

Not everybody goes reaching into alignment for unit that you know the based on his relationships. Think about how many people did did Sampson really get along with real well. I mean he had to tell his parents go get a wife and every day. He struggled with interpersonal relationships, which is autism. I mean, to some level and but autistic people have the ability be really strong in certain circumstances because they got no different access to their hormones and then other people do and I've dealt with at a time or two, dealing with autistic people like me and told her the time with Ryan where he literally threw me down like a ragdoll. You said the good news is I'm special needs.

I can assure you there's a lot of things that I have no idea what's going on. If an end. Just like Logan. You could explain it to me and I am gone like it was funny but I don't know yeah you got it yeah yeah so how many things like that are there out there that where where I'm offending other people but I have no clue how beautiful is it when they finally unit will stand up, tell me here's where here's where your frenemy Robbie, this is what we need to work on this is where we really can improve our relationship and therefore doing that culturally it may seem really ugly as to Sean Connery said in first night. There's a peace that only comes on the other side of war in it. The that's good I I one of the things I was looking at was Ecclesiastes 3 and it says to everything there is a season and a time to every purpose under the heaven. A time to be born and a time to die. A time to plant and a time to pluck up which is planted a time to kill the time to heal. A time to break down and a time to build up a time to weep and a time to laugh, a time to mourn and a time to dance. A time to cast away stones and a time to gather stones together.

A time to embrace and a time to refrain from embracing a time to get in a time to lose a time to keep and a time to cast away. A time to render the time to sell a time to keep silence and a time to speak. A time to love and a time to hate. A time of war, a time of peace and so when I look at that there really is a time for everything on it also says in Scripture that today is the day of salvation and there is a time to get saved. There's a time to give your life to Jesus. I was watching an interview with Charles Stanley and I his son Andy Stanley was interviewing said would you always tell me was the most important thing in my life and his dad, Charles Stanley said. He said the most important thing in your life is your personal relationship. If you never give your life to Jesus before. Would you like to do it today.

Just pray with us. Dear Lord Jesus, I know that I'm a sinner. I know that I've made mistakes.

I know that I'm not perfect.

I turn over my life to you.

Repent of my sins and I turn over to you I give you my whole life and I probably the rest of my life in Jesus name.

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