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Put it In His Hands

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June 18, 2022 3:30 am

Put it In His Hands

Hope for the Caregiver / Peter Rosenberger

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June 18, 2022 3:30 am

Singer/Songwriter Gary Chapman called the show to discuss Father's Day. From his iconic song FATHER'S EYES to caring for his father, Fatherhood has come to define Gary professionally and personally. 

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That's a wonderful song you wrote that 20 some years ago, but I love the way you completely ignored calendar no closer will age creeps up on as well. It is laterally will you.

That song is remember hearing for the first time and I love them. The message of that song and I think that's a great Psalms to launch into a Father's Day conversation legal mercy because I think a lot of us as fathers, as we walk through this journey of mercy becomes a more important word to us as we get a little older and see the relationships develop over time in our lives and see what God is done given us great mercy. So tell us a bit about Father's Day for you that I want to get into a special story that you have your dad, but just as for you as a dad and I think now is a grandfather grandfather. I hope my kids don't at least two of them were aware of the mindset far too much college that they shouldn't consider bringing but one of them donated kidney to her best friend three years ago and gallant beautiful story, probably can't get much more approximated that and and she just don't know something shifted so you can elevate came into our lives about four or five months ago. She is established for kids and about 30 now 34-year-old son daughters 32 against almost 30 now and just turned nine So my wife and I decided to adopt a little girl. Nine years ago and delete arose because change our world grammatically and all the best way to my first three. I think I had it in my hand that somehow I was supposed to Trenton to live life as well and I could and hopefully they would mimic the good things that God did and sort of turn into the replica is somewhat wrong person but you know I'm supposed to excite them and this one has turned it all upside down. I want to be just like her when I saw pictures of her rockclimbing the other day and all day. Did you do it to you know about Kathy was with her on that outing. I was not there but but we have done nothing that you can want to do with even those that she won't she absolutely fearless, which generates tremendous amounts of fear for me but she she man I can get it. Have to see it to believe it. She casually. I have pictures of Gracie rockclimbing tell me about you perspective on legacy layout.

It was that it was a moment I promise you it was a moment so get a get ready because look at me and did recognize this is what's going to happen to you. Don't let this happen to somebody you love look look at what stress does to human Vegas. She's going to be doing more of these kinds of things in the other goes great with the I love what you said she feared nothing now and she's just not everywhere that you know we take her out to visit friends and she got quiet in the yard and out somewhere like way way way just flat black identities response and then you look at it. She will have climbed over 6 foot tall and she when she was two years old if she could get her finger over the edge of it. She could get out okay.

That has not changed and it's pretty funny but she never get her bizarre. I made it out of the angel Goldstein because she see her maybe, maybe, fear is what gets us hurt a lot of time going out but it is an amazing thing to live life with her incredible what what is this day mean to you is you is you think on this. You been you actually been fathers, but the same time. I have a 34-year-old well I remember when you guys had met it seemed like a lifetime and cutback back in the 80s and so as you look back of these things, and in your role as father, now grandfather what are some thoughts that you have about yourself through this what it would be much change with the father created everything I had an amazing dad which had the bar so high I don't know that I ever got there.

No, that it is not a regret and I don't know that it would be possible to know you are not an electric just very unique but I tried to my goal is to be half the man my dad bought and I knew that I would be head and shoulders above most men at that point but I don't know that I even got halfway. I don't know that I'm I have learned to love know you think you think you figured out in the sixth grade and out on that girl pigtails walked in and it's just a lot more than so much more. You know, it has almost nothing to do with romance and everything to do with learning to give an did it without Andy expectation of receiving anything in return. And you know I think it's just one more that ever lengthening list and no longer live the clearcutting get and I'm back at that moment of clarity is astounding and you could have just made a good enough smack reported V-8 moment of your life and you might be so lost in the rapture of the mortgage so I don't know but I do know that I do know that my kids have brought me closer could be in the man that I know God could merely be anything out when you think about your role now stand in your father's fourth your life, your career was propelled to amazing heights with a song father's eyes and that is his condominium and overarching part of your life will always be part of your life and in you and I'll add. I remember hearing you sing that you ever go back and play it and just sing it yourself. I'm actually about to record.

I wheat we don't belly gearing. I do not rehearse this this this interview had just of you thinking about that Ashley could well that that's wonderful. You know I do play it is enough people out there expect me to it was what it was and always Explain it, you know, because it always from female perspective of the opening line. I may not be every mother's dream for her little girl. People just take that at face value, it would. I may not be the perfect son-in-law in it and it was written exactly like that nothing was checked when she cut it initially so I've been better not but I just never did.

I never recorded a few of those so that I do want to revisit at some point, but I'm about to start a new project.

God is just dropped man.

I cannot wait for you, but he is definitely one of them. I know Grace is yes you, you've written a song for Gracie. Corruption turns on the that are just really really exciting to me in on those, those crazy people that absolutely core of my being. I know that there is a documented Bible on this planet. Nobody could never see and and I want to be an alternate, and they're going to need to ask God to let me participate in the key is rewarded with Quicken song so I'm not going to record go back at record a few songs that I think are generational that no one you know under the age of 25 or so I've heard yet. Got a great producer really really good guy, very successful extremely you know it tragically, probably in his 30s. I would think this point that out. I reached out to solicit his living talking about doing something together a few years actually I said the I don't want to be 20. Don't be.

Don't be deceived here, but I but I don't want to do it all myself a little sound like a 65 blender generation. Now I think that's marvelous. Gracie is a she's been recovering from the surgery. She's been a day. One day with Alexa and she displayed your catalog. We just going through stuff.

Places like mindedness, the songstress are so rich and I would look forward to more of them will talk some more with your chapter. The next segment that we had go to break this Peter Rosenberg Hopefully will be right in. In fact, I hope this Peter Rosenberg that is Gary Chapman with a special guest Gary was with is with us today. Gary told me about that Saul. Sorry I got involved a daughter, Sarah thing in there with me incredible. That song came out of my dad to bed one you know he had parked in the last eight years of his life cancer for the last two just to make it interesting, but that cancer tracker sheathing nerves in Atlantic City went from Providence Hilton back and forth to Florida one week back and forth collectively next to coming home and the next day. Not being able to walk it just call me on the political trunk and you come downstairs and could not have lived in a good time is directly beneath the master area. Now you do not get out of it. It's what is it that I can't cracking up. I can't. I can't look for my wife down. I got not owe okay so like literally change the day, knowing him. It'd been bothered and interested in that but he got to the point completely that of the first know the first year and half of my live computer eat. He put me to bed and change my diaper. I got a chance to return the favor and it was Bob tell people it is best horrible experience. We were always very very close and we just got closer I was going to bed one night know there was a process like you did you know love Just develop assistant who were going through the motions of it all.

You know I got pulled the shoulder back over here and I'll take this trip alone took it the way you notice the discovery right when you get Move definitely will start the night right now so I'm going about process and the whole time I was doing it. I was just quiet about whatever one bugging me that day because let's face it generally quotes most important cannot I have no idea what it like have no recollection what it was, specifically, that would bother me that I was just this one and it was time to say good night. Cannot I lay down and kissed him on the four head that I love you pop and unelectable in my hand.

The light switch in the voice no parking got most of it but this Allen dog said something public that got anomaly about but it just like Greg could come to Skype regarding God care and I went upstairs and wrote that song got almost totally finished with that plated good buddy of mine, Kramer, Erin Barker, 12, number one, George Strait, the start, but you help me with second verse and just me a whole lot I'll make a lot and that's one of them that you know I bet that that is in my head all and now it's almost in-state when I get in that spot I start out on focusing too much on whatever it is it's right in front of it. It seems to be a movable just for kicks like it's like my brain just presses quiet and that starts playing in my head and I'm like oh yeah okay yeah I've known you for a long time and that's listen to play for a long time that some to me when I hear it. It's it's almost 1 of those songs that would you do it it it just feels so effortless. It just flows. It just flows out of you. It's it it is that there's just a you know best I could describe it is just sit in a in a rafting down the river, relaxing put it is hectic, but it is hands great description great description it it's it's one of the most relaxing sounds of ever heard you perform just just don't have it or not you have valid sitter you have balance it. I'm so wrapped in and I will play one of the next. It would have some that are up so engrossed in it.

It's so intense is that you write from such an intense place. A lot of times that you have no great rock songs and so forth that wood is just a just add another something about that song.

That is just it. I don't know if I'd I don't have that. I wish I had better words and I'm a writer, but I wish I had better to describe that but it's it's that the closest thing I can think of is the Eagle singing peaceful easy feeling you know all and right but you know the same feeling that you get when you hear that and you hear this, I'll just put it in his hands and it just it's Ella that it elevates the room to let you just can't catch a breath a little bit put it in his hands will be all right. And then to know that your father was saying that to you from the bed, but he couldn't and it's dark outside and put it in his hands and credibly special connections that and I and I'd I can tell you that the audience listening today is never listen to that song without thinking of that picture of half of your father say put it in to see and send in but that's what God has that sit just put it in my hands I got you and this is not something you're unfamiliar with this now all know that that effortlessness that you referenced when when when I am having at my best moments with no that I'm doing what God wants. The burden actually it is noted burden is actually life is almost effortless when you're in that spot and not in on not I get frustrated I don't stay there all this thing called life really gets in my way from Dr. but I love that feeling love it when I'm playing in Glenwood singing I love it when I'm well I don't dance like but you know what I thought about when you chose also suffer from terminal Caucasians is I even elicited a Gracie says that I'm Indiana Peter the Temple of doom. You know, but I watched her in pain and that this is what this all makes me think about. I got I got it. Now this is what because I watched her in pain, and when she sings to herself, the two to kind of transcend the pain she was seeing to so sweet to trust in Jesus, but she doesn't think it simply, she didn't think it kind of like it's been plucked out of the years.

She seems very slow.

Jesus T how trust you know in that kind of thing that his settles are sold down and I think that's what is with that song does and I think we we've got to have that I reference what you said the last block of we've got to have music that's going to carry us through what were getting me to face as a country and as a world as it is believer that if we don't set ourselves down and I'm reminded of Paul and Silas in prison in under singing hymns after being beat and that I don't know. I don't know many people that were due to headache that I know one.

No one lives with that and see if she sings when she switch she is just brutal has a washer in the ER and in the moisture in the in the ICU and everything do the same thing but I think that's the model for all of us in your songs allow your songs for me do that. That in and an end they would do that for her to and so I don't think I can give you a higher complement because when you have a woman with what she lives with and choose exit she spent at a day listening to your catalog. How many people are doing that you know just the whole thing. I would just play one after another, just you know on Alexa and and I'll just washing the changeover into just singing with the men in and that's it. That's a tremendous thing that your offering to people in the fact that you going to do another record and you can put some more stuff down and then that you saw that you center that you wrote for her and and I these of these are wonderful things here that you're strengthening a lot of people talk a little bit before we go to the break talk a bit more about your dad and will and will if we get established will take it into the next segment tell me little bit more about your dad and and this weekend it is your thoughts are on Hillman and as you feared this journey with me before she was supposed made out of hurts of the things that you and your dad experienced well you know I love a good story and all the good story very long, but I will truncate and I can update. I think you know about the last two weeks of his life. I do it coming. We only got about a minute and 1/2 of them will go to the next race will finish their but so yes let us set up the table of where we are all set.

It so we were out. We were just sitting talking one day he was in and out officially headed out the door. The heat he refused any kind of medication despite the fact I give you access to all the best drug unlike you did it ever ingested anything that altered consciousness, and it was just too weird.

He couldn't do it so I would sit sitting. The song that I learned at church 50 years and that helped. So we were sitting there one day and he just left me absolutely to God okay is not nearly as dramatic as I thought it was going to be, but I would absolutely confess that he was that he was dead calm breathing and yeah what a cliff that that's how you do a cliff later. This is the practices of the caregiver talked with Gary Chapman will be right back singing my favorite of all the salty that one and I remember him singing it for the first time a back way back to South Carolina the Township Auditorium in Columbia, South Carolina, and he and his guitar up there and I was at once I heard that song.

That was it was it for me and I am so grateful that he's on the line with me today were talking about father stated his dad and Gary had just before we finished up the story because it was you left. This is critically figure I can't thank you enough for that song that I love that song enough play often this bumper here on this program and it is it is a is a wonderful song. So thank you for that. Tell us tell us where we were with you is that you did leave us. The careful know the reality of hashing was actually started know we were just a mere one second and then I was like dad what I know responses just like like unblinking stare and I would open a box maximum of citation is like a check and not nothing, zero and like okay there you go. I was about to call my brother. My brother and sister. You know about sister lived in natural international area and I was just let it sink in.

I just didn't see it didn't visualize it happening that quickly that that almost a nonevent.

He just stopped and about is probably five-minute. I don't know times, a weird thing and moment like that for five minutes. I hear this laughing. He can be back laughing and she has been visiting with his mom and dad is one of six boys and three of his brothers have darted past that he had been visiting with his mom and dad and his brothers and he had a lot to say a lot to say about and I was like okay okay so I know it's not drug. I know he's completely lucid.

There's a meeting sharp as a tack until he went into a coma on Good Friday. Ultimately it was just it was just bizarre.

So I get all of God, brother and sister. What happened now, what okay I got happened eight times the last two weeks of block and one of the most dramatic of them. My brother knows it is a lot like on pilot statutes 35 years with Southwest email/BB guns aviation Department Falluja County Sheriff's Department. My idiot brother L. Dr. spec, 9 mm, and a shoulder holster and he can land anywhere he wants to take. This is not a good point, but it just nicknames crash which does not generate face did not play with buddy and he came up the hardware you want to be a fighter pilot could so he came up the hardware you can crop dusting for six years and a total two point the last year of the block. Second one got a picture of it with him standing there with my dad. He wound up 80 feet of the oak tree hanging upside down from from the safety harness chemical fuel you know we can all over, and he decided that he had a guardian angel and he named okay you didn't tell us why he didn't tell me" is better to get you lived three houses down from me right now I were talking even Kelly has between him and God, okay. Thank will he was stated when dad went into the curriculum, taking third oval heavenly daytrip and it happened like they just stopped in Outlook to my brothers and okay that's it. Think of yanking your chain do it right now that is not realistic.

Just wait just wait until just went and sure enough that every time he came back just an old five-minute.

Come and be solely she's my brother and he motioned him to come over. I had to cut a leading down to Gary voice and my brother got close to me said on Chechnya row told me you give an inch fish whole life.

You need to slow down a little. Okay my brothers buckled because he knew that nobody breathing on this planet knew the name of Angel except And not it was just so many moments was just such an amazing project. God just gave us amazing gift. Well, if you live in God better. Just he went out like a king. He wanted to, I guess you with the sleep did not wake up on Good Friday. My sister is a nurse made a polyp next Tuesday. She's not leaving and not Easter Sunday morning 2009 God at sunrise. She started breathing change and she called up in bed with them and when that happened she heard voices in the room above the master bedroom correctly and she she got okay Gary You the way. I will have to wait, only we were not.

I was in the middle of the best training I've ever had by far in my dream, which played out almost to a T hour have to my brother and sister not standing outside of his living area, lower level of the house watching the guys from Bartlett Hills Memorial Gardens's body once and work with standard and I mean like instant he was standing there with us only made me look like I just got kicked was so beautiful I cannot describe Trotta.

Every time I tell the story to be exactly this. I can't tell you what he looked like it was just so willingly beautiful. He was elected Beach 35 just talking 90 miles an hour and I'm thinking really should pay attention to what I say it because I bet this is important information that I could, I could not do it. He was couldn't take my eyes off of them. I'd never seen anything so beautiful. He was just perfect. I can't can't can't describe it but did not get one word that he stated that the last thing I heard I heard them say. As much as I get my best to teach you about. I was erotic I was wrong.

The country shifts so much more that my phone line in this world and it was my sister telling me that moment she could just take his last breath without question God led him to drop by monitoring to give me that gift and big gift to me after walking his church when I was six years old. I had not gone to bank.

Not sure what made me feel guilty or remember the name of the sermon. There were some there were some virgins that had some oil and some that didn't have some of the ones without able-bodied good shutter door close that I knew I needed more, so I walked the aisle and gave Maibach to Jesus and I have balked at Pat with varying degrees of well-publicized succession instead. I have delete my whole life. That morning that moment I stopped believing started. No. And it is very very different that my father's death has become the focal point of my life and I'm so grateful to live in that place of gratefulness I don't I don't know. I don't know how he could've given the move. My heavenly father and mother earthly father at the same time engaged actually and not always be grateful. I can't wait to see you well this is what I had you assisted this is an extraordinary story. Yuri and and that's a life-changing one, not just for you but for now every morning. Here's and I felt like for Father's Day.

This would be the conversation needed to have and I am most grateful most grateful for your friendship, encouragement to me personally and for sharing your heart with this, not just your music but your heart but I don't think those things to scarce anonymous earth, so they are they are and we are grateful. As Gary Chapman and please, please, no. They were very grateful. So for the Caravel of Roseburg to see the XML for the will have the sound of the podcast as well. Please share with see next

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