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Cara Whitney Discusses Fields of Grace

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June 14, 2021 3:00 am

Cara Whitney Discusses Fields of Grace

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June 14, 2021 3:00 am

Author (and caregiver) Cara Whitney (wife of Dan Whitney - AKA LARRY THE CABLE GUY) discusses her deep faith and lessons she learns around her farm about herself, God's love, and sharing her faith. 


Hope this nation's largest overview was. Chronically impaired teaching Alzheimer's to special needs to be somebody in your life as addiction and alcoholism. Maybe you care for somebody who was dealing with trouble market is all kinds of different scenarios. There's always cared how you feel how you doing what's going on with you how you staying healthy and strong when caring for someone who is not the show is all about.

Now in my 35th year secure garage learned a few things along the way. Most of the hard way. I am the wily Coyote of caregivers and I've learned though that we can live a calmer, healthier, and Dara state a more joyful life as we care for someone who was struggling. I'm always on the lookout for books, and individuals who can bring some fresh air to some of the darker places of our hearts as we do this, and I came across this particular book from this author's care, Whitney. The book is called fields of grace, sharing faith from the horse farm in you. I live appear in the Rockies of Montana and Gratian. We have horses on the property. Here dogs and cats to guess and loosen and all kinds of things and so she had me at sharing faith from the horse farm is one of the ways that I get outages can decompress my own heart and I thought what a wonderful title.

What a wonderful concert she's doing and then I thought of where this book where it was. How do we share our faith. How do we we engage with the things of God through this environment of of animals and in farms and and just the freshness of that and what can we learn from this. As I explore this further, I just I just fell in love with this book. In this home because if she thought she also wrote a book called unbridled faith that has just amazing work and so here I'm glad you you're here on the show with you had me at horse farm and so thank you for being a part of this out with us today. We have a lot in common rail heart that I those of you who don't know this. Kara's husband has been on the sill before but you may have heard that the show we did. But he's also noticed Larry the cable Guy and we just had a marvelous time there but but Cara and what she's doing here sharing her faith in and exploring the things of God, seeing that the poignant lessons that that God allows us to see all around you.

Scripture says all creation cries out to the glory of God. And I thought as caregivers, we sometimes get so wrapped up in isolation, is one of the toughest things we have and it's important for us to connect to it.

Too little bit of fresh air and and so I think you will find this book in Kara's voice and her heart a very meaningful and Carol want to just jump right into this tell you about a barnyard horse brawl and what the world have to do with anything about our weaknesses about caring art make people uncomfortable, but there are meeting lately Carafate every day, black. We might not even realize that would be in the form of the caregiver and we can get that I would mentoring a girl school girl and you know I need it children myself so I can help them something by being only thing they can't block the neighbor bank and you listen to her, though I would mentoring the neighbor girl and of course I'm a believer come to me with problems that happened her high school, you know that whole drama that is that A Current Affair you know I would help her walk through the Orient about my fourth Orlando to weed at Fort Lee in the caregiver he take care people spiritually like there's a little girl whose grandma passed away and and he went caring for her by letting her buy brass cam he was repairing her heart, but the same part cannot be around other Fort or he literally will try to help them in and I tried to work that out down at the chapter go ultimately try to expel. One of my other marketing open and being that rough-and-tumble farm girl that I am a part I get on the manure spreader have to separate the Newport and my mouth revert back to what you say if I knew the Lord its habit. Caught word you know that nurse airborne by 15 and I I did end up able to separate them, but then realized that I would.

I was standing in front of the girl that I would mentoring like audit terrible side of me, much like my fourth Orlando can be so sweet and all fell revert to the Jekyll and Hyde type personality and well still able witness that I can't.

I can't be discouraged by that.

You know you go back delete learning the hard way. I apologize for that I am not to lose my witness over it by apologizing about it by wow I believe I revert back to that First chapter opening up correlated with the word evangelism. How how we hear the word evangelism and we get taken back by the high we've been hurt by Christian that you know try to stop it that I'd had with Bible in one and you know got word of the weapon again when really we should be reaching out in loving way. We should be admitting our shortcomings and saying I can get better than that hard. Keep it Peter thought that after about and we have the gall of so many of my audience who struggled with this because people come up and use the word of God like a sledgehammer on him and you know if you have the faith that God would heal your leveler what you all the consecration of hurt all the stuff by audiences heard that and so thought, how do we speak clearly into this and just be with people, let them know that you know God is moving in this all around and by the way, this is total separately or do you work you need all with therapy horses. I work we work with therapy Bart Barnett out of Hickman wrap down by the morning star are found they can get it on Sunday. Actually funded built the barn help start the program caregiving up. It's sort of like that you think about it now. You don't know the theater but my mother-in-law was with his 85 he had memory memory issues going on header check for you know all kind of thing that the narrowing of the blood baffle you get the think question over and over again what kind thank you, Debbie. How much time is the start and you'll get the think question every five minute and I think sometimes we just want to go. I told you, you know, but we know you now so so caregiver you know but sometimes we do. Sometimes we lose it, Peter and I with her and tell you now and you just have to apologize not let that get you because you're doing the best you can. As your my mother know deal with being around animals that she does she engage with them a lot.

Now she fell down and implicated her shoulder actively when he started coming in and we realize more than anything that goes Fremont back delete during the beginning of coalbed. He was really whining because we didn't eat her every day we weren't aware of that will then take Val hated her shoulder and came to live with God and God that no bread going out and why not. My could break your you're having a home of the thought just a secular which of care with her new book is called fields of gray shearing face from the horse will be run is not a preacher, Peter Rosenberg at about 3 1/2 decades as a caregiver. I've spent my share of nights in the hospital sleeping and waiting rooms on foldout cot shares. Even the floor, sometimes on sofas and a few times in the doghouse blood still talk about that as caregivers we have to sleep with uncomfortable places, but we don't have to be miserable.

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We look at that are very painful.

Their heartbreak and yet if we look deeper. We can see his hand a provision go even deeper that and see that he has assured us of things that beyond our comprehension. We can trust. How do we know we can trust him because he stretched out his arms and gave his life for us on the cross.

That's where all is anchored and over grateful to have you with us were talking with Carol Whitney. She is the author of the new book fields of gray shearing face from the horse for care comes from a farming family up in Wisconsin. She lives in the brusque nail.

I just love this whole concept of what she's been doing of learning to see the things of God in the midst of taking care of a whole lot animals or tics.

She takes care of her mother-in-law there and there are no stranger. She and her husband Dan are no stranger to the difficult things in this world and they are learning to trust God in them as well and I think it's so important for us as caregivers to get perspective from folks who are who are in their own spiritual journey, seeing things it got a showing list get together compare some ideas. Hey, can I learn from this Yaqui energy to talk about Alyssa Lessig but what a barnyard horse brawl shows of our own weaknesses and I was asking about her mother load. This does because she seven memory issues, and dementia. Is she able to engage with the form it all into a care of up so we had to cut off a bill, the Braidwood tell me, but that is does it connect with her. She able to to connect with the farm life. There are no limits.Pratt. I mean, you even when I'd had an injury in your bidding can be depressing to feel like you're never going to take out and no I would take on lock down and spent time with my Shetland pony cocker and grafting. He's kind of a character anyway.

Well if you think of Pepper Pike County therapy. No animal lot.

I yeah I I have, you know, many hiring That I got around December and they required bottlefeeding and so far my modern life. Currently it was breaker to go down and help bottlefeed but then also have people come out to get something going on in there like a good time make as needed a break from you now to correct your mind and to get and kinda cute little animal is just so different and refreshing right is so still, we believe to most of the paved road so approved rule area and sprinklers pretty large ranch yellow sheet down there and we just came through lambing season and all these little tiny lambs and I like stuff there and grace you get out and graceless with pain all the time you you you have met your husband's membership you have admitted what grace you had a horrible Rick 30 years ago that left pretty banged up so she's an orthopedic train wreck and she lives with a lot of pain and it's not that her pain goes away. But I watch you with these lambs and in with the animals around the course with the horses here in it transcends their something that happens for her that transcends her pain and transcends her injuries in its Churchill used to say there's nothing wrong with the inside of a band at the outset of the horse can't fix is that I loved it.

Quote. You know will Roger said it. Reagan said that a lot in you know from own journey what it would just feel like I'm just kind of you a little bit stressed out I go settle up the horse and one of sit down. Or maybe he just sat down. I was running it really was rocketed.

He was a very rocky like that they care just sent out only a state audit was like what the heck are you and but there they come up to me and they they are just magnificent creatures of comfort to me.

You know and do something about that and I know that that that's happening for you.

That's what you been writing a love what you said in an unbridled faith that your previous book in that you so many things that your learning around this and in and you said something about just wanted to draw this in the tub back to your book now, but almost every situation that produces fruit in us is one we'd rather not go through and that lesson sorry quote Cara it is you almost every situation that produces fruit in us and we don't like these things but with when we see what God is doing in a word like oh okay alright alright and and you sing this in your own life and you're able to communicate this in such a beautiful way that maybe people didn't expect go back to the baby For moment you were bottlefeeding is of work you have this book with how that teaches us the value of letting go talk about that little bit of court working farm unit. We have a farm here, but it doesn't pay our bill now. Larry Hager Bell but when I think your bottlefeeding have typically there like that when the mom can't take care of both well so I would get wanted bottlefeed it and then I will come along and her baby would die for whatever reason it happened. Then she would adopt one from my hand and fell hard know I think that you get attached baby but you know what good you know you could you let Kelly to let go a good thing because then that mother get her baby actually better for the Right by how been some 12-year-old Ted the other side of that hill is that you know by all. They would be wrong enough they Go live and you know I know the fate of where the ears are going to end up at some point, but the cycle of life and to get X now you now and it for the bat and it harden.

It is what it is right so will one major Cisco Sears cows have a great life one really bad day that was true.

You guys got dogs on this place as soon in oh got.

We just got a rescue dog. Another one or or Aussie is a little bit older and he started be pretty crippled open is her support animal.

He really takes very good care of her little so we got us a rescue dog and she is a bundle of energy tell me some things you've learned about dogs through this process because I'm a big dog lovers out here. Well, one mind in the bucket barking dog where I actually only have one dog right now directly.but that story that comes to mind every time I get on my Minera letter that Don far Bart and Bart know not like it literally makes that hairs on the back of my neck and up frustrating, but I compare it to people who media thing and make you know they might say they might faith the truth, they might say luck) you are going to burn in hell but it how they say that delivering a copy make the hairs on the back your neck stand out because your light, you're not winning goal. You have to wonder why they say it like their thinking earning some point with God by being way back. There's a gentle way to say the thing being and also to if it from the heart like are you telling a person you know there is a better way. Jesus made a better way for you and if you don't), then you will be separated from God.

You know it so much easier. Hey Dan, didn't barking at somebody and say you need to repent your dinner.

You're going to burn in hell hype about delivery when it comes to talking to somebody about the love I love that you will barking dog feels like doesn't stop you a loud clicking bill and you look at what Jesus said, coming to me you all you who are weary and heavily give you rest and he's close to the broken heart of the Lord is near to the broker and the poor spirit and blessed are those who mourn for they shall become, for these are things that he is seeing the human condition that people are broken and we can speak into that without just yelling at them and and I know for this audience here that listens to the show.

Is it word were watching somebody we love, decline, or suffer and we don't anybody tell us we need somebody to help us understand the gospel in that context that yes this is broken. If you could have you been watching the chosen it all using the other side will in season two. There's a scene where they done a great job of testing and in writing for Jesus in this because usually they have Jesus just kind of walking around with looking white Anglo-Saxon and pensive all the time with this list. This character when they done this when it is just amazing. He's very Jewish. She's very good since of humor but is very passionate any any one time. He is looking for Scott. He says you know I come from a kingdom were all of this is his is okay. It's open.

There's no there's no suffering distal tears. There's no sorrow but in this kingdom that were in now heartbreak bones break in and so I think that we can be tender with this. Like you said that we don't have to just yell we could be tender and recognize and respect the trauma that people are going through and and and offered comfort to the Bureau pulses weekly comfort one another with the same comfort we ourselves have received and do you think your kids are embracing the W group working cattle form. You know, do you think that they're going to embrace this as they as they continue during their teenage years that right now I don't. I think I know I haven't really I done everything that I can't talk a lot about being legalistic or overbearing, but you know they're different people and outline my letter, far as you know, they have their own life right.

I think that that while in the nonbeliever that I did the law of attraction. We don't know we put the stuff in the and we let God sort it all out, but we sure were talking with Carol Whitney and she is the author of fields of grace will be right back. Have you ever struggled to trust God when lousy things happen to you.

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But what were doing and why were doing it.

How do you help a family caregiver. Why should you help the family caregiver to help the caregivers make better caregivers if the caregiver goes down.

What happens to the love those of you listen so really know what I think you're my wife she's been hurt for a long time since Reagan was present. If I go down.

What happens to her 80 surgeries. Both legs amputated hundred doctors of treater how she'd want to function.

If I'm not in a good place spiritually, emotionally, physically, fiscally, almost because of things we have a stake in staying healthy and part of that helping this is to glean from others who are maybe participating in things we can't do what we can learn from them that we can borrow a little bit of their oxygen that they're able to breathe and take it in those places when we feel like we are just lonely and isolated, and in the dark. We don't know what you're going and we can hear maybe the gospel to way that we haven't heard before is like Carol was telling this in the last segment that she was mentoring her neighbor's child her own children may not listen to her but chocolate is child's swap. I think this the new reality TV series and and sometimes we can just hear it from somebody else in a different context. Maybe it's like she said pony therapy where she's able to take someone down her mother-in-law with dementia and letter to spend time with her pony and and comfort her heart and so forth but but maybe we need pony therapy in her new book is called fields of grace and am so glad that she's with us. Cara is that she's she's taken her life experiences on the farm throughout her journey with this and her love of animals and and being able to engage a love how you keep reference the fact that you get on the manure spreader in that they say that you could tell a lot about a person by the first job in mind was cleaning the horse stalls when I was 14 years old. Of the six I'm not so sure.

Sometimes job description hasn't changed but you know I've been there and and and some people may say all this going gross. It's not it's not it's all good it's all good.

So tell me to do you think your kids enjoyed the farm life is much as you do know, though, there are people. My daughter, our daughter want to go to New York City want to perform on Broadway and then my art can want to learning Any growing affluent in that and drain it to move it to parent cell probably can get further from the farm. The note to buy their life and around and got happen here, you know, were made to know God, no, and no, you know. I hope they gain a personal relationship with Christ and she can take Broadway New York could take it you can know I can't get in the land that God you know there's no money in farming cell. No, sadly, there's not but you you've invested into your children. You given them education you. You've shared the things of God sure Jerome life you modeled in front of them and you trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding and in all your ways acknowledge him and he will direct your paths that I hold onto that scripture in a very difficult and dark time in my life of a mutual friend of ours gave me that verse share with me that heard it before but it just became it such a time and he was so gentle with and that was Jeff Foxworthy and he just said that to be a member where I was standing when he told me that in and I hang onto those moments and that I think that's what it is what you get you you you put it in there and you trust that they have a Savior and were not that Savior no right rear job hard where but probably the most effective prairie rail rear whatever it takes to get you Lord and Nanette uncomfortable. You know I I I'm working on a new book and one that I think I was actually writing. Today was what I learned in co-pay is basically that I did all the thanks for your to try to orchestrate my own comfort by doing that. I like that I don't and by doing that I would not handle other people you know and so I was not reducing back fruit that we were talking about earlier and shall you know and I just want my kids to know the Lord, you know what, whatever that cake and that is that means there can be a conflict. Do you when people read this book.

What would they put this down fields of grace Sharon Friesen horse farm. What is something that you really hope that takes root in them that that that they walk away from this with the with something that's that they're hanging on to what what would be that thing. Well my hope that that talking to people about hard probably feel that it you know it, imitating you know you're going to talk about it all ready hope for the right thing back, calling her make an inner action that we don't have power pressures off there, but we can make the introduction and it looked differently depending on who you're talking all night and all Internet what caregiver do it.

This relationship now and fix your mother's mother, most of which I could fix Tracy but we can be in relationship with them and I love that you're exactly right. Okay, don't you know marriage. You know what that way I can tell my husband, Carlotta.

Take care of his mom now so I I can do that, to the point and fairly easy. He's great actually help me out. I give her job so you thought there then wonderful for the CAD so it then got wonderful and you know you have to see the bright spot of the hope we have followers that I get everything here.

The hard thing they're going to be redeemed.

On the other side.

You know were Juergen if the great walk. She probably can out run you you now like all the things that we've lost the thing will be reaping down the other side hopefully half so amazing.

She was at the grocery store. Once she started when her legs uncovered years ago because it was just she wanted to get in the water and so forth with them in the that's a long story but she was. She was wearing shorts and she has no robotic looking legs and some kid was just following her rounds crushed and get walkers will now she's due not because relays because were black and were with that reality, but it's she was just following just looking at are just looking.

Finally, the integration strategist, move away, we would if I was a little kid just have bidders that are sleazy are your legs in heaven and gracious it. Yes, they are in one day I'm going to get them back in the that's a that is that is our hope in the gospel knowing that you know he is redeeming. All of these things and there are glimmers of that redemption that we see every day around us and I think that was his owner. Ours you see it wonders what is something else that you want to just leave the Saudis over the people that that that list of the show and the people that I'm engaged with. They have to watch heartache particle levels for some that is just excruciating and just what I saw your book in your story. I just knew that you're out there breathing some fresh air, even on a manure spreader and some of the things that you consider insights, we may not of been able to see.

We may not be able to touch a lot of times I had to go out and bring sunshine back into a hospital room with Gracie and Leslie. Caregivers are sometimes that will that's what we have to do. Jeff told me what I started with the shows Peter make them laugh. You know more than most how important it is and and so have tried to do that to bring some light hearted to subsume encouragement. Some fresh air. What are some things that you would just like to just deposit for someone right now who you know was looking at some tough stuff and final moment I'm journaling habit had been able to look back at some of the good things that made laugh there in a coming go but I don't think either thing go away but there glimpses of habit you know that heaven and the new earth are going to be the place for these moments are inelastic and deeply fulfilling and it can be everything that were longing for right and and and more I mean we just know because God get in abundant in L so you know, maybe journaling is something you know in my writing. That's how I started writing the author anything like that. I just did writing down what I numbering about God's character and and and then I would share them on social media and someone get me if I would correlate those with horses and I was able to do that because that's where I was wearing glasses but that don't work is what God is revealing me through the market and and so when I go back in and get a look at these books or whatever that I got while I have heart or I could look at it differently.

Sometimes I'm like it's a good reminder of what I've been through and how and in the goodness that Bennett get it when you read the chapter here usually means learning the hard lesson in them. So it's really refreshing the that worked out so journaling I think is that it's not just for check right. I frankly journal has a guy. I mean I think people think that her for the lady. I let her know how much good and that journaling doesn't have to be.

Dear diary, to think journaling can be just writing down correct thought that you have in keeping it to reflect back on. I've got a things like that little post notice of got around my office. With that, thing, and for me. One day I was a him praising the Lord, the Almighty, and there's a lot in their cyst ponder a new what the Almighty can do and I put that on a post noted that is on the doorpost of my office when I go in and I'm never ticketed at a Gracie actually made a beautiful thing for me that I hang on the wall of that phrase ponder anew with the Almighty can do nothing. This would journaling gives you a chance do we gotta take one more break and were back it with care.

Whitley, the author of the new book fields of grace, fields of grace, sharing faith from the horse farm and I really appreciate her take the time just to spend time with me to talk about. This builds up my heart and I hope it's going up your heart will of strengthening us that we can share our faith, we can discover greater faith even in the midst of these difficult things that we can see God's hand moving all around us of something else I want to ask Qubec will be right back a copy of the well to hope for the get involved.

What we do will send you a copy of that is our gift to you think you be very move, but she's Lucy's the real deal. No Cuban singer in a loveless and that voice even during some of the very difficult times we had to go in. There were times I would go to hospital room and and she was struggling so intensely to just sing to him just Jesus. Jesus how a trust, how I approved them over known to social you and and 04 great and she was say Ofer Gracie to trust more not just overgrazed the trust Ofer Gracie to trusted more and I've always been quite moved her enormous faith and her passion to worship God in the midst of her difficult times were talked with care Whitley and her new book fields of grace and and and I wanted to circle back to previous book she had called unbridled faith she's learned so many lessons. Just being around horses and and in the form that's I see that myself out here where we are in Montana and all creation cries out to the glory of God. Scripture says, but she said something in an unbridled faith to connect what she said the last segment I want to just spend little time with this for we let her go when God teaches us patients through trials were caregivers. Okay, we need everybody's paid attention with this okay when God teaches us patients through trials. It feels like were running in circles around. However, God does not corral us to be cruel. He holds us in place to teach us to walk in his ways not to stray and to trust in him were not putting horses and corrals to be cruel but will help you teach them and you want that's the way it is with the sometimes and it seems like that we're just in a tiny pin it would go around in circles, but that's not the case.

Talk about that little bit care. Well, the waiting, not knowing. I believe that when I wrote that I was going to help struggled with my well and you know you take a couple forward like a bright spot. I went faith the end of the tunnel, but you get that right and you have to take four steps back and man I in that time. I would know dependent on God. My ears were both open it with like I get so dependent on him well that I didn't ask him to take it away because I was so worried that if he did that I would hear from them anymore so that's how well I got in that and then I watched somebody talking about going through brain cancer and eventually a nurse came in and fed him because he would he would like me you know when God is giving you so much you don't want to ask more, but the nurse said to the man she said but yet your if your children were hurting. Wouldn't you want them to come to you and tell you to take it away. And so I did eventually take it away and you know what he did for the most part, at least we figured out what was going on and it but it would it would. I would in that round pen for a while and sometimes on the third. We may not get out of it, but strange. I don't know there's so much to unpack their right. Peter will like it could be legally have descendents on God will deliver to so that you use the word I think it's intentional were we need to to look at what we think God is cruel enough, watched God allow Gracie to suffer in ways that I just never see another human being, suffer like for so long and I think*this guy are you being cruel nose and was look at Psalm 7070 of the God of you for God to be gracious. The psalmists is in and I realize that know he has because the subsequent speculation was that I remember what you've done of old and I go back to that him, O God, our help in ages past, our hope for years to come in and and even Jesus from the cross credit, my God, my God, why have you forgotten me, and I do think that wells up it is and it's okay to yell that out. It's okay to lament that you want to yell that out he Dell yielded aren't here yet. I want to hear from I think want to cry out one hand it any know he can't be cruel, if not his character. Good law. There are actually think God can't do. We can't go back on it, like you want everything that is true, though good fight with having said we know that powerful enough to get out of bed, but he chooses not to do that sometime but I think it's okay Peter, cry out, why we do. I yeah at the same time go for the benefit of back that you know there you know that Vicki got situation where it you know some some people. Nothing going on in your life and there's nothing to cry out for and you have to wonder what participate in having Matt because if you're going about your liking everything. Why would you think right.

It wasn't until I had to help struggled my biggest thing what's trusting God that you thought that I was in control of everything and when I it's something came into my life that I was not all I had no choice but to say you know why I'm not in control. I'm aware that now and I want you take this from me and by the way, and it I'm in a bring glory to you Lord, because now I understand that, however, didn't help right now and at that time in my life.

It was looking like cancer like that.

If that is your will and I will bring glory to you in that storm and that was when I really connected my faith, my heart because up until that point it was like my brain believe because I studied the resurrection I found out through I like okay but I could not make an emotional connection without him putting me on the ground with something I completely out of my recluses passion for mice is difficult to cry out to save you that you don't think you need and that's where that's where suffering becomes a teacher for us and it is painful sometimes it last for a lifetime and in our case it is this that way and so many of the listeners of the show are dealing with this with this will go on and on and on and doesn't show any signs of letting up. How do we speak the gospel into it and I think this is where we do with but by having the form like we have in the show we come together we listen to each other and as each other's cry out that we stand with each other and we mourn with those who mourn, we grieve with those who grieve and we build each other up through that we comfort one another with the same comfort we ourselves have received from the God of all comfort and and that is the driving of Scripture for me is to understand the people of spoken that comfort into my life over these many years into Gracie's life. We have the opportunity the same thing care the same way you you you people have said somebody spoke this word of comfort to you. Somebody spoke this life to you and in your reciprocating it now with the same passion and zeal of that you were able to receive it. And so it's it's a beautiful thing Of this is a beautiful book and is it and what you've done in an endless series of things that you been writing about. If people want to find out more of the book is available at Bell right about without thought throughout kit version of Andrea about yeah right.

Okay great that the new one. Amazon anywhere so do you. And if people would find out more about you was the best way to do that, you know what Peter I there is not. I don't sit in a career for me. I don't look to find glory for myself. My name is bring glory that all love. I might be a little blurb in their something, but I can tell you I got very magical and I'm still in love with him was look good to do so by don't normally do but I will see how good my invitation is of Larry you want to know something funny actually be funny got into a married guy look-alike contest took third place. So I saw a good ghost story that were we already was. Look at the store. I sit next to Texas to Jeff because it really looks so much like you of the total sleeves the whole fleet of it. It was like they had no idea he was out here, but I was so elusive. I do this is good for is a great is a good book.

Dishes are good but I don't read good books. But it does that's best.

I got back I think I'd actually like I made well I can I do know that I could say there was a man with no legs because that would was forever bully would be Gracie did the show. If you have an I could do Jeff with a need to adjust the thing one time he loved it. Of the PSA and other outtakes of it we were doing.

He might be a caregiver. If you said he just blessed to be obese is if you ever share/eBay.

Have you saved my left leg year probably just a fellow left so even great.

Gracie just fell out of here you little delight and I want to know how much of your always welcome and just have a great tub above the manure spreader. Whatever else you do it around the floor, telling people about Jesus and thank you for being a partner so this is hopefully caregiver, hopefully Rosenberg will see you next. This is John Butler and I produce hope for the caregiver with Peter Rosenberger. Some of you know the remarkable story of Peter's wife Gracie and recently Peter talk to Gracie about all the wonderful things that emerge from her difficult journey. Take a listen Gracie. When you envision doing a prosthetic limb outreach.

Did you ever think that inmates would help you do that, not in a million years. When you go to the facility run by core civic and you see the faces of these inmates that are working on prosthetic limbs that you have helped collect from all of the country that you put out the plea for and their disassembly sell these legs like what you have your own prosody and arms and orange everything when you see all this. What do you makes me cry because I see the smiles on their faces and I know I know what it is to be locked someplace where you can't get out without somebody else allowing you to get out course, being in the hospital so much and so long and so that these men are so glad that they get to be doing as as one man said something good family with my hands. Did you know before you became an amputee that parts of prosthetic limbs could be recycled. Now I had no idea and I thought a peg leg.

I thought of wooden legs. I never thought of titanium and carbon legs and flex the sea legs and all that. I never thought about that as you watch these inmates participate in something like this, knowing that there there helping other people to walk the providing the means for the supplies to get over there.

What is it do to you. Just on the heart level.

I wish I could explain to the world. What I see in here and I wish that I could be able to go and say the this guy right here Denise go to Africa with us.

I never not feel that way out every time you know you always make me have to leave.

I don't want to leave them. II feel like I'm at home with them and I feel like that we have a common bond that I would've never expected that only God could put together.

Now that you've had experience with it what you think of the faith-based programs. The core civic offers. I think they're just absolutely awesome and I think every prison out there should have faith-based programs like this because the return rate of the men that are involved in this particular faith-based program and other ones like it, but I know about this one are. It is just an amazingly low rate compared to those who don't happen and I think that that says so much that doesn't have anything to do with me just has something to do with God using somebody broken to help other broken people. If people want to donate or use prosthetic limbs, whether from a love one who passed away or you know somebody well groomed. You've donated some of your own for the to do, how to how they do that please go to standing with staining with excretion

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