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One of the more, I don't know, just enjoyable and relaxed that you've ever done I thought. He seemed really, I don't know, he seems like a low key guy. My guess is he was pretty competitive but he seems like a low key guy. And John, the term country strong has never been more. If you saw this guy he could pick your house up.
He is just, he is so strong and I love some of the stuff he talked about but we'll address that so we don't spoil things for the viewers but I love some of the things he talked about sport wise, growing up wise and what he did with his children and their sporting careers. So let's jump out to Vegas. John, we had the Shriners Invitational. That thing's been called a lot of things. When I was playing it was called the Las Vegas Invitational.
I still remember you caddying for me around the 17th old Las Vegas Country Club trying to figure out which way the wind's blowing. And hit like five clubs too many and send it like, wasn't it a full like 74 yards over the green? That was such a bad tournament back in the day.
I mean there's so many things. If you were trying to throw that out in front of these guys today they would look at you like, wait a second, this is like a local mini tour event. Four days of a pro-am from guys that had been up all night gambling in Vegas.
And pretty mediocre at best golf courses too in several instances. Yeah, I can remember quite a bit about those and man they were rough. Those were rough.
You paid a price on those puppies. But I gotta tell you, I can remember having a 6.50 tee time at the old Tropicana. Remember the old Tropicana course which is now not a golf course anymore. Hopefully it's a parking lot. It deserved to be a parking lot back in the day.
It found its final resting home. Good for it. Oh my gosh. A modern day player could drive 10 greens in that course if they could figure out a way to shape it around the palm trees. But anyways, I can remember back in the day heading down for my 6.50 tee time and seeing several of the caddies still working on their fortunes as I was walking through the lobby down there. But anyway, a lot of good golf going on. I was kind of thinking this was going to be Patrick Cantilay's event from start to finish. He jumped out to an early lead in round two and led after round three.
But that is not the case, Pearl. I think he may have thought the same thing, Jay. I think he was a little disappointed in the results. And a rising star clipped his wings, I believe.
Yeah, Tom Kim. You know, John, we're going to look back and look at the President's Cup 2022 down in Charlotte at Quail Hollow is the jumping off point for this kid's career. He took his confidence level to an entirely different spot in that event. And he was animated and the way that he played at that President's Cup, you know he's feeling good.
Yeah, just taking that next step. They talked during the President's Cup about earlier tournaments and stuff, how he had the jitters. What did you tell him? He's 20 years old? He's 20 years old.
20 years old and he could play that. So all he needed was that next level of confidence. He certainly got it there. You know, they tear up that Vegas property pretty good as far as shooting the scores. But that place is rife with problems if you start missing shots and you start getting... Oh, we've been there. We've been in those rife problems before. I wasn't going to bring that up, but that's how I specifically know where the rife spots are.
Well, I could tell you this. I saw my first tarantula on a golf course when I was playing out there and it was not in the fairway. Scared the hell out of me. I had to go for the check. I had to check the drawers right after that. I was looking for a ball and I'm like, oh no. And it wasn't even mine.
It's that property too. There's room out there, but there's enough that if you're missing shots, there's not enough room. And then you try to go for a couple of things and then you don't get them. And all of a sudden you're turning what's supposed to be birdie holes or eagle holes into bogey holes. And then you start questioning yourself a little bit.
Yeah, it's like any other property out there. You've got to play up a storm. And so for him to go out there and do what he did and build his confidence at 20 years old, the only thing that might stop him is their draft. I think that's the only hope the rest of the golf world has is that he gets drafted and has to go to military for a couple of years in Korea.
That'll fix his golf wagon right there. Oh my gosh, it's so interesting, John, because I was trying to think of who is going to be the first big South Korean star to come over here and probably knock off that first major. I mean, there's Si Woo Kim. There's all, man, the list goes on and on of some of these great young South Korean men playing. And the men, it's interesting, the men are slower to this podium, so to speak, than the women because the women just absolutely dominate the LPGA. Well, but again, Jay, it's a huge piece to have two years in the military. That is not to be underestimated relative to their progress, their future, that kind of stuff. It is, and I know that there's been some talk about is there a way to circumvent that, and so far it has been no go. You know, it's interesting, John, my dad in the middle of his professional baseball career served two years in World War II, a little more than two years.
I guess I didn't know when it was in his career. I should have thought about that. That is going to wrap up the On the Range segment. We're going to tip our cap. The Tip of the Cap is brought to you by the Dean team, Volkswagen of Kirkwood, my friend, Colin Burt, 314-966-0303. Give Colin a call. If you need to be introduced, I'll introduce you personally to Colin.
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It's going to be fun to see. We are going to go to my interview with Cardinal Hall of Famer and two-time All-Star and 17-year veteran of Major League Baseball, Jason Isringhausen. Enjoy this interview. Izzy, thanks for joining me this morning, man. You're welcome, Jay.
It's a pleasure. I sit here with a kid from Brighton, Illinois. I mean, let's just talk about that a little bit and get to have such a 17-year big league career and getting such a great time with the Cardinals.
Tell us a little bit about that. Like you're saying, I mean, growing up in Brighton, Illinois, I mean, all we did was play sports. I mean, there was nothing else to do, really. I mean, my parents and my family weren't farmers or anything like that, so all we did as kids is, you know, we went outside and played whatever sport was in season. You know, we followed the Aussies, the Willys, and the Tommy Hurs, you know, back in the early 80s, and that's who we were in the backyards. Just throwing baseballs, wiffle balls, tennis balls, rocks, sticks, bats, whatever you can think of. I mean, we were doing it playing tag football. We were playing basketball. I mean, it's just what we did in small towns back in the day.
It's whatever sport was in season, that's what we did. Yeah, it's so different now, isn't it? I have four daughters. I know you have a couple of kids. I know your daughter, one of your daughters, or your daughter played volleyball, and mine did as well. But, man, we just had a tiny little house that we grew up in, and we just had sticks and balls and pucks and whatever was around, and it's so different now.
I don't like this time compared to what we had. No, I just, you know, they're specializing these kids at such a young age, making them play only one sport. And I just, I've always believed in it, and I've heard it from other people that have played the game. You know, if you're good at baseball in July, you're going to be good at baseball next July, too. I mean, there's a season for every sport. If you're an athlete, go have fun and play all the sports. I don't want your body gets burnt out, you know, your arms only got so many throws in it. I mean, I know that very firsthand with all the surgeries I had, but, you know, it's, I don't know. You know, there's so much money in kids' sports these days, and just, you know, it's a money-making machine.
And, you know, I mean, God love them, you know, more power to the people that are making money off of it. But I just, I worry about the young kids and their little bodies that aren't fully matured yet. And we're working on throwing curveballs at a young age and things like that.
You know, some of that stuff scares me a little bit. You know, Izzy, my daughter Brennan played at Fordham. And at one point in time in their volleyball season, they had nine girls having knee surgeries. I mean, what else do you need to know? I mean, they're too young.
It's too much repetitive motion at too early ages, I think. Yeah, I mean, I have a daughter. She's playing volleyball down at Tennessee Tech. And, you know, knock on wood, she's been really healthy, but she didn't start playing volleyball until her freshman year of high school. So we didn't do the, I've never done the young club stuff.
And I mean, I take that back. We do a little bit of soccer here and there. But it's not as crazy as these guys with the baseball and the softball and the volleyball. It seems like it's 2-4-7 with some of these sports.
And it is rough on those little bodies. So, Izzy, talk a little bit about, gosh, you're a two-time All-Star. You led the league in 0-4 and saves. Talk a little bit about that mentality. I mean, gosh, you've got to have a really short-term memory sometimes, don't you? Yeah, and that's, you know, I've always talked about that, being pitching in the late innings of a game. And I guess it's probably similar in golf because once you make a bad pitch or you take a bad swing, you really can't think about it on the next one. You know, you can't dwell on a bad shot. You can't dwell on a bad pitch. You get hits for a home run.
Short-term memory, you know, you go in and take a shower, have a couple soda pops, so to speak, and let it go and come back the next day and do it all over again. I mean, it's similar to golf, but I just, I can't get that wrapped around my head in golf yet, but we're working on it. But like you're saying, it's the mentality of pitching late in the games is my main thing was just being available every day.
That's what I wanted. I wanted to make sure that if my teammates had fought hard for two and a half, three hours, that I was available because I wanted to give us the best chance to win. I mean, some days Tony wouldn't let me throw because I'd thrown four or five days in a row.
But, you know, it takes 25 guys to get to that last inning guy. And that was the hardest part is when I did fail was I thought I was letting down all my teammates, letting down my family, letting down the city of St. Louis. Those kind of things dwell on you a little bit. And sometimes when you've had a bad week or two, you know, you start doubting yourself a little bit. So, like I said, short-term memory is key, but it's not always as easy as it sounds.
No, and most people don't understand that you're a human being, too. I mean, you're feeling the situation. You're walking in, you're feeling the energy, and when it doesn't go your way, and we've all been in long slumps before. It sucks, man. It does. I mean, you know, this is a golf show, and I do watch a lot of golf on TV, and I do see them hit a hosel rocket every once in a while. And I go, God dang, look at that.
They do it, too. It's amazing. And these guys are the best in the world to watch what they can do with a golf club, and the golf ball is amazing. You know, it's just a lot of fun to watch the games. And I do the same thing with baseball.
These kids today are so, they're younger, they're talented, they're bigger, faster, stronger. You've got Aaron Judge hitting 61 home runs, 62 home runs. You know, it's just been... During the season back in the day, did you get to play at all? Did you sneak out and play golf at all? No, like, when I was playing, and I was, well, I was pitching the ninth inning, so I was the so-called leader of the bullpen. I would never let our bullpen guys play golf on the road because I didn't want anybody ever having the excuse that we got to wait too early to go play golf and goof off all day and then blow the game at night. So those starters, they have the ability to, in between starts, to go play a couple of days of golf.
But we always had our bullpen outing somewhere where we always dressed up in goofy outfits with the knickers and the argyle socks and stuff like that on the road somewhere on an off day. So we had our fun, but yeah, I didn't get into it until I retired, which was 2013 is when I first picked up the golf clubs for real. And I've got the handicap down to about a six and a half now, but it's, you know, I had listened to a lot of people.
It's that touch around the green and the putty and the do or die, and I don't have the patience to do it right now. Oh my gosh, it's so fun. I understand that Wayno's a hell of a player and I listened to the morning drive and I guess they had, he was out the other day with Michael.
Listen, it would sounded like they were having a blast and I've seen Wayno. It's a mile. Yeah, I mean, you know, he's six, six, six, seven. He's got a lot of leverage, you know, as you get older, I just turned 50. So I'm starting to get away from the young man's golf game. I'm just trying to hit it down the middle now and kind of finesse it down there. But, you know, like I said, it's baseball players usually are pretty good golfers. Hockey players are really good. I think it's very similar swing. I play with the Blues guys every once in a while and those those flat hockey swings, they translate to a pretty good golf swing.
Usually, you know, they're going to hit it solid, but they don't always hit it straight. So so is he tell us a little bit about what it was like back in from a mental standpoint, because we know how difficult golf is from with, you know, just the six inches between yours. But for you at the end, the at the end of a game, what what was a typical game like? I mean, in the first couple innings being the closer where you plugged into what's going on or what did that look like?
Well, I had a pretty I had a pretty set routine. I don't think Tony really liked it because the first two innings I'd always sit in the dugout and goof off and get Tony's, you know, Tony was so, you know, into the game. And he had this thing about smashing cups and keeping cups out of the dugout. And I would always throw cups all over the dugout and make it make Tony angry for two innings.
And he'd tell me to go away. And then I go into the clubhouse, I'd get something to eat, go see the trainers and get ready to go for the game. I get out to the bullpen about the fifth inning and then we'd have a couple innings to goof off down the bullpen and then come to seventh inning.
You know, it's time to kind of look at the scouting reports and look at the scoreboard, see who probably going to come up with the ninth inning, go over the hitters with our coaches down there and then start my warm up routine. I had a couple of heavy balls and did some stretching and some arm exercises, throwing a heavy rubber ball against the wall to get loose and then come the end of the eighth inning. You know, it was get on the mound and get ready to go. It was usually I usually hit through 15 pitches, I would throw like nine fastballs, you know, for four cutters and four curveballs. I mean, it might get up to 20 pitches sometimes, but it was a pretty set routine. And then I had my bullpen catcher, Jeff Murphy, who would always give me a thumbs up or thumbs down whether or not my stuff was good. So I'd know if I have to concentrate a little bit more when I'd go out there or I'd have to, you know, say a little prayer.
Hopefully they hit it at somebody that day. But yeah, I mean, it's the main thing was like, I think, pitching late in the game, too. It's like, you know, you do everything you can to get ready for that day. And then as soon as you release the ball, it's the rest of it's out of your control. So I try to teach this to the young kids in our organizations. We control what we could control. You know, we control what we control is our effort and our execution and all.
And if we can do those two things, usually things work out. But, you know, you can't help an error. You can't help the umpires. You can't do this.
You can't do that. So, you know, if they give me some effort and they execute their pitches, usually at the end of the day, it's going to work out. Okay, that's going to wrap up the first half of the interview. Perle and I will be back with the second half of Jason Israelson on the back nine. This is Golf with Jay Dawson. Hey, we have just crowned our 2022 champion.
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I hope you enjoy it. Jason, when I look at the guys that played on tour and I look at the best players and I watch their prep, you know, we played back in the day. We didn't have advanced metrics. We didn't have the internet. We didn't have cell phones.
We had no idea, really, what was going on around us. And the game has changed. I mean, every kid on tour is walking around with a $25,000 track man, you know, working on launch angles, working on spin rates, all this stuff. I know that's in a baseball game as well, but what is your take on that?
Where do you stand on that stuff? You know, working with the minor leagues now, we use a lot. And they've had to teach the old dog new tricks with these analytics. And I went to school during the pandemic, you know, and I graduated, so to speak, with drive line and Rapsodo, which is a lot of the analytical stuff we use in pitching and hitting. And I think the main thing that does for us as coaches, it really shows us what a player does well a lot quicker than the old fashioned eyeball test. You know, if we look at a kid on the track, man, or with the edutronic slow motion cameras and things like that, if a kid spins the ball and you can see their spin rate, like on a slider or a curveball, so to speak, or the backspin and the vertical break of a fastball, we know whether or not this kid can spin the ball.
So maybe his slider becomes his number one pitch rather than a, we call it a dead zone fastball, and then we have what we call a hopper fastball, which is a ball that to the human eye, it never comes down to where the human eye says it's going to be when they're swinging at it. So I mean, it shows us what the kid does well a lot quicker than what we had to do with the eyeball test back in the day. And I think that's what it helps us with the most right now. Yeah, so it speeds you up a little bit but those eyes ears might be old but you know what plays in that league and you could say hey, just keep doing that you're going to be okay. Yeah, I mean because like I told you, I wish I would have had it to know what I was good at before but I threw a big curveball and I threw a fastball up in the zone back in the day because I knew what played off of what pitch. And then now we use the numbers to confirm it, and I think it's same as, as in golf because yeah I hit a perfect wedge shot, so to speak, and you can see how much spin this guy and why isn't this ball sucking back compared to a knockdown I mean it's all this stuff that we hear and talk about and listen to it.
I mean, it's great. I think sometimes you get numb to it, and it dumbs the game down a little bit, but we also have to be careful of who, how much information we give certain kids to some kids can't take much information in, you know, you get you get guys like Tommy Edmond who's an Ivy League kid who loves the analytics and then you get us, you know, you can get a, you know, an old farm boy from down south somewhere who doesn't understand it but it gets people out so you just kind of have to know who you're dealing with. Yeah, there's no question about it we have this this thing on tour called paralysis by analysis and you get so stuck you know you're like, you know your, your work on how many shaft what sort of shaft this shaft supposed to kick the ball up it's supposed to kick it down it's supposed to do this that the other thing. And when I look at the guys now I mean, I watched Dustin Johnson, turn himself into a really good short game player, all through track man he sat there and hit hours of these wedges and it would track his spin because he kept trapping the ball and hitting these low shots that didn't play on PGA Tour type greens. Yeah, I mean it's funny now because you didn't hear about it back in the day with tiger but now that tigers kind of slowing down he does a lot more speaking and a lot more. And you hear him with talking with all the younger kids, and he talks about all I, I, everything that I do is with feel, because he didn't have track man back in the day when he was learning all this stuff. And, and it's funny to listen to some of the younger kids when you, when they're listening to the Tigers like what do you mean it's all about feel. It's like, well, you didn't have the technology you do today so we don't go by numbers we went by feel it's kind of the same thing we did in baseball you knew if your curveball was good because you got out with it, you knew if your fastball played in a certain part of the zone, because the guys couldn't hit it.
We just didn't have the confirmation that we do now. Yeah, it's interesting I can remember you know my dad used to play play 10 years in the bigs and he would say, I listen into some of the old time guys have their, you know, talk about the lineup they're facing, and up and in and down and away, got everybody out. And for the most part if you still make your pitches today, it'll still get them out I mean some things you know baseball's been around 100 and some odd years.
Some things never change you make good pitches you get people out, but, you know, but like I said with those numbers we find out what kids do better than not. Yeah, and it's interesting is he when you start breaking down your golf game, and you're trying to figure out you know how the hell can I, how, how can I get to that next level and for you, take you for example so you're 6.5 in a hell of an athlete, and I've seen you you smash it I know you do, but we're trying to shave those strokes off from this point, going down is really where it gets difficult. Yeah, and it's all that you know it's all around the green, it's all the chipping and putting that just takes hours and hours and repetition of doing it.
And when you have a 12 year old and a 19 year old college you don't have the time to go out and do it you're chasing kids and. But then again you have to be realistic with yourself and not get too frustrated with the game because when you can't put in the work to be the best then you know you get what you get. Yeah, and you know, learning the different shots and judging the different lies there so much to the game I mean, because you can hit a perfect little pitcher chip but not judge the lie correctly in the ball take off on you. This past week we went up Chicago we played at Medina, and it abused me the greens in the rough around the green greens are so fast and the rough is so thick and I don't have that game.
I think I three put it probably, probably 16 of the 18 green. But it was so much fun. And it just goes to show you how good that those pros are you we know we had our four caddy. And they were talking like the pros would go low on the front nine and then they try to survive on the back nine and we got back there.
We didn't survive the back nine it was bad but it was so much fun playing. Well what's interesting is he has most of the guys that amateur golfers don't understand as they get around the greens, especially in some rough that there's got to be some angle, so you've got to lift the club up and drop it on the back of the ball to get the ball to come out high and soft. I see this all the time because, especially in a place like Medina man those greens are. You know, and if you can't if you can't get that ball to land soft you know you can't play it, you just really can't play it. Yeah, and as an amateur, you know you try to do that little, you tend to try to scoop the ball and you don't realize that there's a reason that the clubs have a loft on them, and to use that loft and everything else and it's just, it's just a mind game with yourself and just, there's a reason it's a billion dollar club industry let the club do the work and try to keep your brain out of the way, so to speak, one of the things is I as I age in hell I'm real I'm 61 and I, one of the things I appreciate about the game the most is that if you shot 69 and I shot 70, you beat me every single day.
And what was expected of me was right in front of me man, I could look in the mirror and say, I gotta be better. And I love that I love that about the game. It is fun because I mean, it's, it's that one great shot that keeps you coming back every time it could happen on the 18th hole you hit one one approach shot within like three feet of the hole. Before that you're ready to throw your clubs in the lake it there's some sort of weird addiction that happens with this game it just I don't I don't know but it bit me when I was about 10 and it doesn't let go of me. Yeah, it's it's one of the most challenging but most fun game that I've ever gotten involved in and now. Now that I'm retired from baseball you know it's people ask me like what do you miss. And what I, you know, I missed the camaraderie with the guys but I missed the competing I miss competing against the best in the world. But now, when I'm trying to find that adrenaline and competition, it's hard to in golf you just compete against yourself you're competing against the golf course I mean it's, you know, you're not really competing against the guy beside you if you can beat you if you can do well within yourself and beat the golf course and I think it's a.
And as you that course never has a bad day it just sits there looks at you like I got you again. I know we I belong to a little club over here in Eversville, Illinois, and it's been the same club for as long as I've been there and some days it gets me and some days I get it but man it's, it's just I could do it every day, it's so much fun. So tell us what you're involved in locally Do you still have your, your charity, things that you're involved in because I'd love people to following and support you. Well we were doing when I was playing this stuff my wife and I got into it with nurses for newborns, and since I retired. We kind of dabble on everything we do the local humane society we do diabetes tournaments and things like that. And I think this year I'm doing something with Special Olympics here in town. So I you know people reach out to me and I try to help out as much as I can.
I don't have a foundation for say myself. I never got into that I was never. It was just something that my wife and I didn't do for whatever reason. I mean we had so many players that did so much and all we did was you know we helped them out as much as we could so I felt like I was doing my part, and now I just try to help whoever reaches out to me and if my name can help them do anything or, or if I can call up the guys at the Cardinals and get some autographs for people for for something here for something there I mean it's what I try to do. You know, the community and St Louis is such tight knit, and they love their Cardinals. They love their blues, you know, and evidently you know when when we have a tournament in town how much they love their golf. You know, it's a great community, and we do a lot of good things here, Jason is ring housing is, is my guess that is he thanks for jumping on, keep doing what you're doing and maybe we can go play one day, I would love to whenever you have time to, to take a hack like me out there and teach me a few things that'd be great. All right, john that's going to wrap up the interview at the first thing that leapt out to me was what he talked about with seasonal playing and seasonal sports with your children, and you and I talked about this with the jack Nicklaus interview, and it's kind of a kind of a song you and I've been singing for a while but it's, it's important.
Well, I don't get it. We have talked about it multiple times and I think it's an important thing to talk about I wish parents would really reconsider. You know, especially when you guys started talking specifically about injuries the knee injuries for example when your daughter was playing college volleyball, you know, it's just, it's just so unfortunate it. They've just, they've just missed the mark I'm not sure what how the transition happened, but I think it's a mistake I've got two grandkids that are absolutely totally immersed and loving soccer.
I love that. But again, I, there's multiple injuries Jay. I remember playing a lot of sports for a lot of years with no injuries. So I don't know what's going maybe I was just lucky but I'll tell you, I think back about friends I don't remember, you know, occasionally somebody got hurt.
But if this is this is rampant stuff, I don't get it. Well let's wait a second, let's clarify that a little bit you played high school football. We both played high school basketball. I mean john, we're talking the worst injury was a jammed or a broken finger, or maybe a sprained ankle, every once while he got popped in the nose I know you got popped in those in college, but I mean, it wasn't like, oh my gosh here's pearlys torn his ACL. Well that's what I mean but I also mean playing in the backyard like is he was talking about, you know, we played hard. We played really hard, and I just don't remember accidents, like, you know accidents I mean injuries, I just don't remember that.
So I don't know what's something's going on here is a mystery to me I'm sure there's there's answers out there and people have statistics. But I think one of it is this, the intensity of the single sport, I think they're missing it, we will pick that up on the 19th hole but that's going to wrap up the back nine don't go anywhere. John and I'll be back with the 19th hole. This is golf with Jay Dawson. I want to tell you about a family owned and operated golf business that's been right here in St. Louis for over 40 years, I'm talking about Pro-Am Golf Center. That's right, Pro-Am Golf Center.
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I'm Jay. This is Golf with Jay Delsing. Earl, I want to tell you when we were talking about from the Jason Isringhausen interview, he talked about how when he was a young guy, they played whatever sport the season called for. When it got colder, it was football and basketball, a little bit of soccer. When it got warmer, it was maybe a little hockey. When it got warmer, it was golf. It was baseball.
It was some of those things. When Brennan was playing, my daughter Brennan got a scholarship to play volleyball at Fordham. At one time, there were nine girls out with knee surgery on that team. When you get a scholarship like that, when you get this surgery, your daughter or athlete goes to whomever the college is associated with medically. There's a doctor assigned to the team and the whole thing. It's a very different process. I can specifically remember, I'd go to as many games as I could.
I'd livestream them when that was possible. I said to this doc, what are we missing here? We've got literally half of our team having some sort of knee surgery in the last year. He said it's overuse at too early an age. Their bodies haven't developed like a pro athlete's has. They're all doing just too much of the same sort of repetitive motion for the jumping and the spiking and the serving, et cetera. It's not good for these kids.
That's exactly what the doc said. Well, I just wish more parents would hear that. I think there's ways around it.
I think one is maybe just a little bit more balance in life in general, but another is balance within different sports so that you're using different body, your body differently in different sports. So I just think it's real unfortunate. And somehow there's this sense.
I've talked to your brother-in-law, Tim, about this and Moochie. You know, they said, hey, there's plenty of times that the coaches were pushing their kids to skip the summer family vacation, stuff like that. They said no. Taylor did OK. James did OK. Alex did OK. I mean, they all got full scholarships. They played at major universities. There was some, again, injuries there.
But Taylor went on to be a world class, world renowned soccer player. So it's I don't know. I just I wish parents would see a little bit more of that. I should say more parents. Some parents get it.
I wish more parents would see it. I think it's better for the kids. And I think ultimately they have a better chance to be a better athlete. Certainly one, just by not being hurt, but two, by having more of a well-rounded athletic education, if you will.
What about mentally, John? How many young guys did we see from Stanford and USC and all of the UC schools up and down the West Coast? John, when we got out there, you know, coming from the Midwest, we were we were itching to play a lot. These kids were burnt out. Well, we had multiple.
I can remember the names now. But we had multiple kids growing up where the kid was just a superstar. David James. David James from Stanford. Doug Clark from Stanford.
You're not thinking of Doug Clark. Yeah. They went to their parents and said, I won't do this anymore.
When they were 17, 18 years old, they were just fried on it. So it's, you know, it's unfortunate for multiple reasons there. So, yeah, enough said on that.
But it's there's an opportunity here. I wish there'd be a little maybe we can find a few more things and studies that we could pull up to the reference to give a little bit more feedback for parents to take this a little bit more serious. But I think it is a serious issue. And Jack Nicklaus, he blamed the coaches. He said these coaches need to stop doing it.
They need to stop. Coaches don't have a gun to the parents had the parents need to be to be parents and see past this. I get it that they trust the coaches. I think to a large degree, you want to trust your coach, but you have to think it through.
One reason this is so important, Jay, I know you know this because, again, you played at an elite level of sport. There's a toll on your body that you start having knee surgery when you're 18 years old. You pay for that the rest of your life.
This it's not like you can't walk, but the weather changes. Other things go on knee replacements later on. It's a it's a big deal. It's a big deal. It's a life deal.
It really is. All right. So let's shift gears to live.
Just wrapped up an event in Bangkok. So are you gloating? Are you gloating? I'm not mad about it. I'm not mad about it.
I'm not mad about what what the numbers suss out. You know, they had a maybe an obscure champion, the young guy. I don't even know how to pronounce his name. He's played his fifth live event and just waxed the field.
He beat Patrick Reed turned second and by two or three strokes. And but what I was interested in, John, is because I read a bunch of quotes from Sergio that now we're a global tour and this and that. And it's true. It's truly true.
But Pearl, there is a complete double edged sword to this global tour. This was shockingly, in my estimation, shockingly low numbers for viewership. They were talking about talking about the numbers a little bit.
Yeah. So in Chicago, though, in Boston, there were over six hundred thousand. In Chicago was their top showing to date with over nine hundred thousand total viewers on their YouTube channel for the week of the event.
This week under three hundred K. And so, John, I did I did some some reading and poking around the last part. And, you know, everybody's putting out at the same time. So they're working on this window of golf to shorten the event.
And the last putt dropped at four twenty three a.m. New York City Eastern Standard Time. I wonder why none of the Americans were watching. Well, you know, you asked me what I thought so far the coverage. And I'll tell you, Jay, I haven't looked for it. I haven't tried. I've seen none of it. I've thought nothing of it. And I suppose I should be digging in, obviously, being part of the show here. But there just is so I just have no interest in it. And I I don't know. I'm not going to go on YouTube.
It reminds me of pay per view in a sense that I had to go out of my way to get to go see pay per view basketball games and stuff like that, which I refuse to do. And is this all a sense of just getting old and grouchy? Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Oh, definitely. And techie. You and I are about as techie as an old Schwinn bicycle. I can figure out YouTube.
It's not a techie thing for me. That might be faster pay grade, but I can handle that. I'm just not going to do it. Most of my pay grade. Most of it's past my pay grade. Anyway, I think it's by the way, Sergio is a tough spokesman. I think I respect Sergio for his golf game to the nth degree. Other than that, I don't care to hear anything that guy has to say. Other than a multi gazillion are acting like a child. Most of the other most of the area is very ingenuous guy.
It's just not somebody that I'm going to follow that way. Golf. Golf wise. Unbelievable. Unbelievable for so many years and his ball striking, et cetera.
And I want to I love to watch it. But everything else. That's it. That's not who my spokesman is. I know you always talk about.
Live has done so many things. You know, if you kind of shoot themselves in the foot, having him speak too much is shooting himself in the foot every time he speaks, as far as I'm concerned. All right. So, John, let me ask you this, because this is a topic that Taylor Twelman and I, we covered last week.
The rapper. You and I have talked about this on and off since we've been doing this show. The wraparound schedule. OK, so the PGA Tour year officially ends at the Tour Championship, usually in the first week or two of August.
OK, and then they take a little bit of time off, maybe a week off or so, and then they start up again. Is this significant to you? Are you excited about watching the Shriners on the second week of October just wrap up? And because there's a lot to unpack here, and I've got some other thoughts on it, but in terms of the golf, John, I swear I feel like people feel like the PGA Tour year starts January 1st at the tournament in Maury.
Sure, it does for most people, but for the geeks, maybe I'm kind of a geek on that. I just love watching some golf. I love seeing good golf. Jay, I want to get to know some of the guys that aren't the mainstay guys.
And the other thing that is so important, and I know you can relate to this, and I wish you'd talk about it for a second. This gives those guys, the not household name guys, a chance to win. And winning is winning. Winning is winning.
You win here, you've won. Or even super be in the hunt and get their confidence up. If they don't do it at this situation, which is the easiest situation, they might not have the same type of chance, or relative to the level of competition, or even the chance to get to play. So I think it's terribly important for the feeder system, if you will, up to the top. Is it going to have the audience?
Well, of course not. Because if the top names aren't playing, oh, there's Cantleys in there. If the top names aren't playing, it's not a top-branded event, and it's not the first of the year when we're all tired of winter, then it's not going to get the pub for it. But I think it's an important time, and I hope they don't go away with it. When I hear those well-established, rich guys on the tour say we should get rid of it, I think that's short-sighted.
Yeah, I totally agree with you. I mean, listen, these are the events where you actually can really learn how to play. There's a lot of guys, because of the system, Pearl, they don't get in. You're not getting in these first couple of events. If your number is probably outside of the top 25 from the qualifying school, and the reshuffle, and the corn fairy guys that are coming in, you don't get in every event.
These are crucially important for you to be able to figure out how to play around, figure out how to play golf on the PGA Tour, what it takes. People need time to cut their teeth. Some guys come out and just knock them out right away, but not most.
Not too many. What about the local communities that are so invested in what these tournaments do for them financially in terms of raising charitable dollars? Well, that's why it's another short-sighted when those guys say what they say.
It's short-sighted with that. This has been built up for many years, and as we joked earlier on how the old Vegas tournament was run, and the quality of the course is the quality of the event, look what they've accomplished through the years. They've worked many, many years for no money, meaning personal gain, to be able to do something like this. I don't think it's right if they would be taking this stuff away. It's still a solid event. It's important to, as you said, community, and I think the underlyings of the golf tour.
I just think it's a mistake when they talk about just discarding it so easily. Do you know what the mission statement is for the PGA Tour? I do not. I do. It's to provide professional playing opportunities. That's what it is.
And you know me. If you don't live your mission statement, then change your mission statement or change the way you're living. Exactly.
And this fits step one right with the mission. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, it's pretty neat. And you know, John, there's a couple of things. How many times, I mean, you remember when I would go down and play a Nike event at the Corn Fairy now, and we'd see these kids, and then three years from then, they were playing in Ryder Cups. So, John, there's future Hall of Famers playing in these events right now, in my opinion.
Yeah, it's like anything else. Once you get to the top, you're going to protect your situation. That's who's on the players board.
That's who has the ear of the commissioner and all that kind of stuff. And we have to get past those guys a little bit, make sure that there's a balance. Otherwise, I just think it'd be unfortunate. So I love that you read the mission. That's just something that they should be reminded of every time they're trying to make these decisions.
Yep, absolutely. Pearl, we're drawn to a close. We've got the golf ball winner this week is Joshua Rich.
Stand next to that. Joshua, you're going to get something that Pearlie's never gotten. Joshua, that's the truest statement he's ever sent on this radio show.
I try to tell the truth all the time, but that is really true. Pearlie has no TP5 golf balls coming, Joshua, but you sure do. Pearl, that's going to wrap up another show. Next week, we're doing our first live remote show from Wild Crush. Wild Crush Wine Bar, we're open from two to seven. You and I are going to be doing the show from three to four. And we're also going to be having a little round table golf. We've got some giveaways. We've got some cocktails. We've got maybe a little chipping game. I try to beat the pro or beat the Pearlie. It could be fun. I've got to figure out how I'm going to maintain my focus if we're at Wild Crush.
Because that's a half of the plate, so I'm going to have to decide what I need to do there. Maybe you need to wear a disguise. I'm definitely wearing a disguise. All right, Pearl, thanks.
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