Lt. Colonel Dan Rooney & Folds Of Honor-Sunday, -Golf With Jay Delsing

This is golf with Jay Delsing, a two-time All-American at UCLA, a participant in nearly 700 PGA Tour events, seven professional wins to his credit, over 30 years of professional golf experience, a member of the St. Louis Sports Hall of Fame. This is Golf with Jay Delsing. Hey, good morning. This is Golf with Jay Delsing. I'm your host, Jay. And with me is my buddy, longtime caddy, All-American at UCLA, author, former business owner, current business owner, getting in over 100 PGA Tour events.

And I know that's the big feather in your cap. Pearly, good morning. What's happening? Good morning, Jay. Ready to get rolling here.

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We are we have dropped four episodes of beyond the fairways wherever you get your pods. Check it out. Alan Shipnick was our guest this past Wednesday. And we talked a lot about Phil Mickelson. Man, I don't know john how you describe Phil Mickelson other than it's kind of a tragedy. It's kind of a comedy and a trend tragedy in there.

And but anyway, check that out. And we will be dropping Taylor Twelmer next week. So this week, we got to sit down with Lieutenant Colonel Dan Rooney. He a Folds of Honor been on the show several times, over 1800 trips in his f 18 as a fighter pilot. He's also a member of the PGA of America.

He's also the founder of Folds of Honor, one of the coolest organizations in our country. So you're going to get to hear from him. But bro, we got to tell our listeners, this is your last show. This is our last show together.

Absolutely. Well, it's been a phenomenal What has it been? J four years? Has it been four full years?

It's been four years and three months. So we've done it. We were sure one thing after one show, we should have quit, right? Yeah, exactly. We should have quit while we were ahead.

It was now folks are not going to be they're not going to not get to hear you or me. Pearly, we are launching a new standalone show. It's all about whack and chase. And so we're going to have information to drop on that. So Pearly and I are going to be the click and clack of golf, we are going to do whack and chase, we are going to answer and solve all of your problems in about 10 minutes. Right?

Pro that shouldn't be too hard. Well, what what scrub have you got following me to take my place? Who's going to step into the huge show shoes that I set forth with the person that is going to fill the huge shoes of john pearles and he's really nervous about this is going to be Danny Mac. I think he's really nervous. He's really Yeah, exactly. Probably the first month Danny will fire me and he'll just do the whole thing.

Like, you guys suck. I don't know what you're doing. I want to take over and do this thing. But yeah, it's a it's a really neat opportunity and to have someone with his broadcasting acumen with his ability to do what he does with the shows and experience and Emmys and I mean, it goes on and on.

It's neither you or I belong in that conversation, bro. Well, it's been so exciting for me, Jay, first of all, to do the whole show with you for the years, but especially the last several months when Danny's been helping produce it, giving us guidance, etc. It's gotten so much more fun so much easier. And I just am so excited for you to be able to work closely with him going forward. And you know, once upon a time, we set out in the show for you to kind of stay in the game, as you playing less and less and stay relevant.

And man that's happened in spades. You've just done wonderful things with this show, how it's branching out to other things, work on your relationship and do this thing with Danny. What a great thing going forward for the fans to listen to it to all the folks that enjoy listening to the show. It's just it's just a bonus for them going forward. I'm super pumped for you guys.

Oh, thanks, bro. Yeah, it's really gonna be fun. It is really gonna be fun. So the weather jet it's it's we're getting there, man, we're getting there. Tech, let's tell the listeners a little bit about the state of your golf game.

How and then I'll chime in because because I was such a high for a second. Now we're gonna swoon a little bit with talking about the state of our golf games. But I have been got myself back in the gym. I'm doing doing my training getting ready for the Ascension charity classic. Can't wait for this September.

But it's a long ways off. Where are you with with your game? How's it feeling? Well, like what you just said, Jay, I've been doing better hitting the gym as well. I just I got away from it. And the little bit I was playing and hitting balls, I really noticed that all of a sudden the club's feeling heavy. I couldn't do some of the things I want. I certainly didn't have the flexibility. You know, something I hate to admit it, but it's 63 years old. The body's just not going to do you know what I see those guys on the tour do.

Nothing ever could do it with any consistency, but it just won't move it to the directions that it needs with the strength. So I've kind of doubled down on working out. It's helping. I feel a whole lot better to begin with.

So that's a bonus on top of it. The other thing is, I think there's a certain amount of things that you have to accept, which I'm not very good at. But just accept that it's not going to be the same game. Don't look for the results I used to have find a way to enjoy it within what I have to work with. And I can't even believe I just said that out loud, but that's a big part of it. And that might be my biggest struggle going forward. John, one of the things that I'm going to brag about you on to our listeners is how you have been you have stayed committed to the program that you and I put together for your putting. Because a senior line and things like that have always been a challenge, even when you're playing a lot. But what what is really impressive to me like when we got together last year, you stayed with that program and you're putting, we'll talk a little bit about the improvements.

Well, it's something I think a lot of guys our age can really deal with you hear talking about the yips and choking and that kind of stuff. And there can always be some of that. But I just got so far out of whack with seeing my line, my setup, being diligent to the details of the putting stroke and the putting game. And I really kind of got back on the ball to where if I was going to be on the putting green, I was only going to work on several things.

I've got a great exercise I do with the yardstick to help me kind of see my path and understand my path that much better. And it's just helped tremendously, Jay. Even the days when I'm not making a whole bunch, I'm not so fidgety and yippy out there.

Those are the days where I just really don't want to play. I mean, it's really disheartening. So that's much of that, if not all that's gone away, which is just absolutely fantastic. And really, it's kind of fed the other way. My chipping is better, my pitching is better, that type of thing.

You know what happens with the putter when it goes bad? It affects everything else in the game. And I'm kind of finding as it starts to get better, it's positively affecting everything in the game. Oh, absolutely.

It absolutely does. And John, when you're able to free that up to that next level, you're hitting gets better. You're just much more relaxed instead of squeezing the daylight out of that grip when you're afraid to miss a green. You know, you miss a green, you're thinking it doesn't matter. I'm going to pitch it somewhere around the hole and knock it in.

And it's absolutely a powerful kind of momentum, so to speak, that helps so much. We are going to do the tip of the cap, the tip of the cap segments brought to you by Dean Team Volkswagen and Kirkwood and our buddy Colin Burt. Pearly's got a Colin vehicle. I have a Colin vehicle. My daughter, Joe, has a Colin vehicle.

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We're trying to spread the word about some of the great benefits that this game has given to us. And it's awesome to have you as a spokesperson with me doing it. I'm just tipping my cap to you. And I really appreciate it. And again, the tip of the cap was brought to you by the dean team Volkswagen and Kirkwood three one four nine six six zero three zero three. Thank you, Colin. Thank you, Pearly. That's gonna wrap up the on the rain segment.

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Lieutenant Colonel Dan Rooney, loonan. Thank you for joining me this morning, man. Jay, I'm blessed to be with you.

As the father of daughters, we have nine between us. So God had great stuff in store for us. And I'm glad we're on this walk together. And there's some chatter in the background because I am live from the PGA merchandise show in the Puma booth where they they build a little brand called volition America and I'm going to start out with little story if you give me a second. Oh gosh, absolutely. Plus Puma is a great friend of mine. They've taken great care of me.

I love those peeps. So my my junior year at the University of Kansas, my college professor walks in to sports psych one on one Dr. David Cook was his name and he's worked a lot of golfers through the years, but he was just a young professor and he walked into this room full of all these athletes and goes up to the whiteboard and he writes this word volition on the board and he turns around he said, Hey, can anybody tell me what the word volition means? And obviously now nobody knows. He said, Well, it's the most powerful word in the world. He said volition is the power of choice. And every day you wake up with two things, you got a choice and a chance. And the choices that you will make will culminate to write the legacy of your life.

And that moment is I call a moment of synchronicity chance with a purpose when God puts someone in your path that changes it forever. He armed me with this power of volition and to take it full circle to where I am right now in the Puma booth, I am standing next to the brand called volition America that Puma makes and they donate a percentage of the proceeds back to benefit Folds of Honor. And when I pitched them on this brand six years ago, I said, I want to walk in my closet and put something on that represents who I am and gives me a push out the door in this battle of life. And I want everybody to understand that our choices are the ultimate empowerment in our lives.

And they said, Hey, we're all in. And this brand is nuts. You see Gary Woodland wearing it, Kyle Westmoreland wearing it on the PGA Tour, Woodland won the US Open in it. And if you want to see an awesome brand and golf, check out volition American if you want to, it's cool. It's got fighter jets on it. And it's red, white and blue.

It is who we are God and country with no apology. And I just wanted to kick off with that story since I'm standing right next to it here at the PGA Show. It couldn't be better. Now I knew that Gary was a Puma guy, but I didn't know about the clothesline and they have been super kind to me. I'm gonna have to get a get on the get on the horn with my contact and get a little bit of this.

I'd love I'd love this idea, man. It is it is a uniform for life volition America. And I gotta tell you, I sit here and I'm looking at the notes that I've taken for you. And I mean, you could sit back and take a quick nap as I go through some of these but the White House Presidential Volunteer Service Award, the Air National Guard Service Award, Ellis Island Medal of Honor, I mean, PGA's first ever Patriot Award, the National Guardsman, Oklahoma Guardsman of the Year, man, I mean, it just goes on and on. But what I love the most about what you do is you've spent over 1800 hours in an f 16 for flight time protecting our country, but you're also a member of the PGA of America. There's no one like you out there.

Yeah, what I'm a rare bird, right? I'm a one of one that put those two things together as a club professional and a fighter pilot. But the cool thing is, Jay, you know, I had no idea at the time when I was dreaming of that as a boy that God would put it together to have such an impact it folds and yeah, I'm like, Hey, I appreciate that the nice words on you know, maybe a few things that I've accomplished in life, but I'll tell you, I just turned 50 and I'm way more excited to talk to people about what they've overcome than anything you've accomplished because that's what defines us along the journey, not not our resume of life, but you know, what we do every day when it doesn't go our way and I'm just, you know, grateful to God that he continues to give me energy and most importantly, a resilient heart to push through the challenging times and, and make an impact. And for me, you know, it really boils down to three things every day. Can you combine passion, aptitude and impact.

And if we can do those three things, passion, aptitude and impact on a daily basis, you will live a full life. And I'm blessed to get to do those in golf and still serving in the military, but especially, you know, our ministry and Folds of Honor where we sent in over 9000 families to school this year, about $45 million out the door. And we raised millions for these scholarships through the game of golf, which is just so dang fulfilling is someone like you that's been around golf your whole life to see the game mobilize in such a positive way. It just takes my breath away when, when this game is so giving and it's unlike any other and I'm, I'm a hunk on this. I talk about it.

People are probably tired of listening to it, but I'm not stopping anytime soon. $45 million to these families and how much over the course of the entire journey for Folds have, have has hit and impacted our heroes families. Yeah, it's about 225 million out the door in scholarships to spouses and children who've had somebody killed or disabled, defending our freedoms. And Jay, we just added the same scholarship program for first responders this year. So our first class of first responders will start this spring and none of it's possible without our relationship with the PGA of America. And you know, they believed in me sitting above my garage 15 years ago when I had this idea for Folds of Honor.

None of this, you cannot put a lens of common sense on any of this. The only lens you can put on this or everybody out there listening is if you have the courage and faith to go before you're ready. I'm convinced that God conspires for you and just so blessed to be on this journey.

You know, the go before you're ready. We talked about that last time we were together and that is so powerful, isn't it? Because with that shows a tremendous amount of faith, doesn't it? It does. Yeah, it does. Yeah, it's I mean, it's Yeah, I like you. You said it perfectly.

I got nothing to add to that. No, it just strikes me though, because our game, you know, who would have thought as young little boys running around trying to figure out a five iron and a new putter and all of this, that the other thing and throwing rocks and, you know, swimming in lakes and all the things we do here in the Midwest, that we this game would bite us and take a hold of us. And now we're talking $220 million at Folds is, is given away. And we've also got the Patriot in Tulsa to talk about American dunes in New Haven, Michigan. I mean, it just keeps going. It was so cool. So I just got to spend the day with Mr. Nicholas at the Bears club day before yesterday. And we talked about this golf church American dunes, which you mentioned up in Grand Haven, Michigan, only golf course in the history of the world that was built with two purposes to create awareness and money for folds of honor and tonight at the House of Blues for our annual party here in Orlando to thank the PGA golf professionals and all the industry that supports us will make a $1.1 million donation from American dunes to Folds of Honor.

There's never been anything like this and that is year two of operation. And really cool to our head professional there is getting the Merchandiser of the Year award by the PGA of America, the big national award down here today. So it just proved like, when you get out there and you are trying to serve God and do good, extraordinary stuff happens in your life. That is amazing. I can remember having you on the show what three years ago and talking about this vision. And you know, the great jack Nicholas had just agreed to donate his time.

And now we're talking about a seven figure donation. It just it's just amazing. Yeah, it's it's divine. I'll tell you, when you witness every day.

And I hope that's the theme everybody hears from me that you give glory to God, and you just try to align yourself on that path. There's an extraordinary life force that's available to all of us. And this American dunes I mean, it is a was a total pipe dream. I was, you know, in the process of going bankrupt at the current golf course. You know, I had people write me letters that they were going to sue me. And I reach out to jack and I'm like, Jack, what if we can reimagine this whole thing?

And I was honest, I said, but I'm in real trouble here. And Jack's like, Hey, brother, I'm in I'm gonna waive my $3 million fee and let's go make this happen together. And so often in my life, and I think just in humanity, Jay, like the best stuff has to come from the ashes. Right?

Nothing left. And Scott Talley, who's Jack's manager forever is with me standing next to me right now. And he said, I can't believe we did this so quickly.

We were talking about American dunes. We were with Jack and I was like, I had no alternative. Right?

I mean, the house was on fire. But how often in our life that like, it's such chaos that it forces you the universe pushes you into motion. So you don't have time to sit there and plan and get it all done.

You just have to react and trust your heart and go. And that is American dunes. I mean, it would have probably been a 10 year project if you would have had all the time in the world to do this and plan it out and pull it off. But literally from first meeting to opening day was under three years in American dunes and were donated $1.1 million.

And never would I have dreamed in that moment of just dark despair when I approached Jack Nicklaus that something so beautiful would come from the ashes. I mean, there's not a better example living in our lives of going before you're ready. I mean, like you said, there are certain circumstances that that caused us to do that. And thank thank God. Thank God for that. Yeah. So who's listening out there? If you got something burning down in your life, it's burning down for a reason. Take action.

Don't sit there in the fire. How was the books? I a two time author, you've got a patriots calling my life as an F 16 fighter pilot. And then we also have flying fly into the wind. I just love some of this stuff.

I'm just looking at some of the notes from the last time we talked about your books. And I think you have an acronym CAV you kabu ceiling invisible and visibility unlimited. I mean, there's just so much tied into what you're doing, Dan, that is really messages to help people in their lives and and and and make a difference. So kabu is is my life anthem.

And it is a fighter pilot acronym stands for ceiling and visibility unlimited, which you mentioned, but for me, it's a it's it's how I live my life. You know, it's it's a code of living that was born in the battlefields in my life and in Iraq. But I literally it is my life's calling to share its creation, its application in its life changing power with people. When you live intentionally and fly into the wind, maps out how you can live a life that is true to yourself and not the life that others expect of you.

And combine passion, aptitude and impact on a daily basis. This little book is in its third print in HarperCollins. And I get, you know, testimonials weekly, if not daily. And at the highest level, I'll tell you, Jay, this book has saved people's lives. People have reached out and said I was going to take my own life and I read your book. And I have a new vision moving forward because I wrote this book and like the darkest 10 year storm of my life where everything was burning down and figuring out a way to control your day, regardless of the circumstances happening around you and live your best life staying true to yourself.

And it's just it's a beautiful read. And it's not my they're not my words, Jay. God put those words through me.

He put them on a piece of paper. And they are helping people in just extraordinary ways, whether excel at the highest level or find your way out of the storm. I just I just love hearing what people have to say. And the whole title of the book goes back to to a question my dad asked me when I was 12 years old, when I said, Hey, I want to be a golfer and a fighter pilot. And he said, Son, can you? Yeah, right.

Yeah. Most people would have laughed. Most people would laugh. But he just looked at me and said, Can you tell me which way an airplane takes off? And I'm like, Dad, I think it's into the wind.

He said, That's exactly right. And when we understand that in life, the common denominator of all humanity is you will face great challenge and resistance. But God doesn't put it there to keep you down. He puts it there to help you ascend in life. You take off into the wind for a reason.

You need that resistance in order to ascend. And that's the premise of this book. But it's so much deeper than that. It's, you know, how to live a life that's true to yourself. So I love talking about that.

And I run that play every day of my life taboo. What's interesting is that with you're able to provide peace of mind, it's everything because with that will come clarity with that will become purpose with that you're able to live your life with passion, aptitude impact. And when there's not peace in the internal house, everything seems upside down. And I've experienced it multiple times.

I know you have as well. And this is the sort of stuff that this book that this vision that this this journey that folds and everything is on we are talking about arming our friends in our community with these tools on how to live their life better. And your peace is not based on circumstance. There's a there's a Buddhist term called Dukkha.

And Dukkha basically the analogy is if you have a cart behind you and one of the wheels is out of ground, it's always going to be lumpy. Peace comes from accepting that Dukkha will never go away. Your life will always be full of problems, but they're not problems.

The acceptance of that fact. That's how you get peace in your life. And people are always trying to make things better and fix things, which is fine. But you have to accept that they're going to be problems. And that is where peace comes from. And if you can't accept the problems in your life, you will never be at peace.

You will be in constant unrest. Oh man, that is just wonderful. That was the front nine presented by the Ascension charity classic. Coming up, it's the back nine and more of golf with Jay delsing. The official vehicle provider of the golf with Jay delsing show is the dean team, the dean team Volkswagen of Kirkwood. They provide me Pearly and our families with all of our cars. The reason we went with the dean team is because we could trust them. We knew at the dean team, they were going to take care of us. And they have they made the entire car buying experience so simple.

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See what pro and golf can do for you. And this is the second part of our interview with Dan Rooney. So let's talk. You're down at the PGA show and we were talking about just the fire that burns inside of you and burns inside of us to tell the story. It's gotta make you feel great to see in the midst of a global pandemic.

Golf is just walking. I know Jay, you and I have been around the sport for our life, and I it's always been in this slow, decent and you're like, Oh, my gosh, are we gonna make it out? This is our livelihood. This is our passion.

And to see something so good come out of the pandemic. It's the game of golf is just in a revival. And that's all the buzz you hear in the background here.

If it's coming through my earpiece, I'm live at the PGA show, and it's just on fire. You know, there are, you know, massive miles of booze, new brands, people all over the place, golf professionals, industry leaders. And it's just so exciting to see your game on this ascent and how it reconnected and connected with so many new people as a result of the pandemic. And man, it's just good for my soul because you and I know it's the greatest game on earth. And as my dad said, if the world played more golf and being much happier place, you know, in this world, we hear this the term unintended consequences. And when you start thinking about the term global pandemic, which never really came across my radar at any point in time, and this happens to us, and this unintended consequence of golf just taking off and almost being fell, it almost feels like it's being reintroduced to our society, man, it is it's amazing to see.

Yeah, it is. My priest uses the term old Felix culpa, which is Latin for happy fault. But obviously, that applies to our life in so many ways. But when you think something is terrible, it's not going your way. But it turns out in an extraordinary way.

And God's in control. And it's just such a blessing to see this game of golf dry and all the good stuff that the game represents. And just, you know, warms warms my heart. And I just hope we continue this trajectory.

I think we can. So let's talk, Dan about some of the other relationships that you have within the golf space, because I know you're at the Puma booth. And those guys have been Oh, man, they're phenomenal people. And they make great clothing, by the way, but talk a little bit about some of the other relationships you have. Oh, we've got so many great relationships out there. You know, our pillars, obviously, I talked about proven volition America titleist is an incredible supporter have been proud partner and team titleist members and advisory staff looking over here easygo golf cars, huge supporter of ours.

And just goes on and on. Just so blessed to under I'm looking around and I see our partners ever to under underwear. They're the best right? Oh, yeah, a head hat.

Revo sunglasses right there. I mean, it's nuts to see all the people that have come to this, this tribe of doing good. And using the game of golf acts literally thousands of lives is it's blessing. And Dan, the partnerships I mean, it goes on and on not only Puma, but you've got so many relationships that are helping with this mission. Yeah, so such a, you know, proud I've been a titleist staff member on the advisory board for them for years, huge fold supporter, great connection to all our PGA golf professionals across the country. I'm just looking around here. easygo golf cars, revo Bushnell, massive supporter, their Patriot packs, just goes on and on to under underwear is right over here. I'm looking at them.

They're a great supporter. And I think all of us right you want to have a passion and aptitude that you want to make an impact and folds gives these companies an opportunity to make an impact. And it's amazing staff that was like 70% of consumers now will make a buying decision based on what a product stands for. And golf is really picking up on the fact that man, you got to have a cause bigger than you know, making your profit margin every year and folds is blessed to be positioned as is a great one for for people to choose. You know, it strikes me Dan, that there's not that many, you know, we're competitive, we're males, we're in a capitalistic market, there's not that many situations that are truly win win. And what you're talking about what, what folds and you guys have created it folds. It's truly a win win for everyone.

And man, it just strikes me as it is. It's the beauty of the game of golf and the beauty of what folds represents and stands for. You bet Jay and you know, your hometown there St. Louis, our number one corporate sponsors anheuser Bush, and they're a perfect example, right? They turn Budweiser red, white and blue every summer, put the folded flag on it and they donate $1 for every case sold back to us. They've donated over $24 million sharing part of the upside of consumers when they pick up Budweiser, what an easy way to serve your country. But that is the best, you know, example of effective cause marketing.

I think one of them I've ever seen in my life. People want to buy something that makes a difference in other people's lives that they enjoy. Schnucks is also doing great things for folds and they're a super big hearted family here in town that you know, it's hard not to turn a corner and see something that the Schnucks family hasn't contributed to our society. Yeah, they're an amazing family blessed to call them dear friends and their life changers over a million dollars a year donated by customers rolling in and rounding up their purchase at Schnucks every summer and St. Louis is like my second hometown.

Great friends like you up there but so much so much amazing support. And says a lot about really what St. Louis is about and the people that live there. It's just fun to feel like we're all part of this.

You know, we're pushing and pulling on this rope the same direction and we start talking about $220 million. You know, in the in the history of folds, it just makes you feel proud. Yep, that does Jamie and the game we love making a difference. There's nothing better than that. Let's talk just a little bit about Patriot Golf Day because that's one of my favorites.

I have a love for so much of what you're doing. But that that is a pretty special day. It is it's golf's most heroic ground, right?

And we you've played golf at the highest level, you know, probably the most myopic sport there is right. But this is the day where you get to go play to say thank you for your freedoms to our military to first responders that come and you know, rescue us and in our most challenging moments. It's over Memorial Day weekend every year we partner with the PGA of America.

And it is just extraordinary. We've raised over $50 million. Average donation is a couple dollars when people play golf, but it is the engine that drives the impact we make it folds of honor. And it truly is golf's most heroic day. And Dan, I think it's really important for our listeners to understand Listen, $1 it's okay, you can give a dollar don't walk by the basket or the bucket or whatever the heck is on that first tee and some of your smaller places and think that your donation is too small, we'll take it and it will get added up.

And it's like the beginning of something great. It is and more importantly than that, you just go on your smartphone, patriot golf days calm and make a donation there. It's easy. And you know, I would say it's not really something you do, Jay.

This is a demonstration of who you are. And that is why Patriot golf days are such an opportunity for us over that weekend where we recognize 1.1 million veterans who have paid the ultimate sacrifice for our freedoms. You can say thank you to their families, giving them the gift of an education for the sacrifices that they have made. And you can just go out and tee it up to which is great.

It's a great hall pass for all of us that love the game over Memorial Day weekend. And you know, the old the adage that freedom ain't free and and boy, when you get to the I've had the privilege of doing some stuff with David Faraday, and some of his troops first and meeting these men and women heroes that come back so broken Dan, and so and the attitudes that to the individual, this guy's possess, I walk away never feeling better in my entire life. I'm a better man. I'm a better human, because of these men and women and what they've done and me just getting to hang around with them for five minutes.

Yeah, they do. Jay, we're we're all blessed, right? Oh, man, use the game to make a difference. So I love coming on and sharing those stories with you. I so appreciate your time. This has been Lieutenant Colonel Dan Rooney folds of honor.

We all know of it. Get on your smartphone anywhere you can to make a donation. Have a blast down at the show, buddy. Can't wait to have you on again.

Hug the girls. And we got to play around the golf together this year sometime. All right, we're gonna do it this summer. Absolutely. We'll either have you to American news or I'll swing through St. Louis and get to watch your awesome game, brother.

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Pearl, Dan Rooney, go ahead. Take a shot. Well, the biggest one I think we both agree with is go before you're ready. You know, there's some parts of that, that line that makes me nervous to go like, well, not really, you don't want to. But a lot of life, you do have to kind of go before you're ready. You got to take that next step.

You've got to walk into the clouds when you don't really know what the next step is. Such a great interview that you did with him. What an interesting guy.

And he went with it before he was ready in some cases, but other cases, he went because he had no other choice but to go forward, which is also awesome. Right? And I mean, it doesn't and john, that doesn't necessarily mean that you're completely ill prepared. It just means you've got those knots in your stomach. You're just unsure. And it's Oh, okay.

Absolutely. It's just such a great message. You know, when I was listening to him, I was remembering some of the times we had different discussions about guys, you know, handling pressure and that kind of stuff.

I remember one of the first times I ever ran into it. He's a senior on basketball team right before I was going to high school. And he was just a phenomenal player.

And I was sat with his dad one night during one of his last games as a basketball player at the high school I was going to attend. And I just said to his dad, I said, You know, your son is just so calm all the time. He's just amazing how he handles this pressure. He looks at me said, he pukes for at least an hour before every game. It's almost scary how violently ill he gets. It's just amazing what people go through, yet still get the job done. And it's also amazing, john, that, you know, everyone thinks that the other guy is not dealing with it, or it's unique to them.

And it's not. I mean, a couple weeks ago, we had Terry Groesch on the phone, and he was on the show. And he was talking about how Jack Nicklaus told him that he's crazy upset and fidgety and anxious in the first three, four or five holes every single round that he plays.

So the greatest of all time gets like that. I mean, why wouldn't everybody else? Well, you would always tell me about it to kind of celebrate that, which was very difficult for me, because at the end of the day, I've had times in those situations where I wasn't nervous, man, it didn't turn out very good. There wasn't the energy there. There wasn't the sharp focus there.

There wasn't the determination. So you do need to embrace that. That's really your mind getting your body ready.

And it's something that we need to learn to embrace, don't you think? Oh, 100% john, I used to tell my girls that when you start feeling those butterflies, and you start feeling that that's your body signal to tell you there's something in your life coming up, that's either important or meaningful to you. So let's pay attention that that adrenaline that I mean, and then and to understand that that feeling can run through your body and you can still perform. It doesn't mean you're flawed, or you shouldn't be doing it.

It means you're alive. Absolutely, absolutely. Now, there are a lot of great things in that in that interview.

And Jay, you do need to go up to Grand Haven, take one of your groups, get one of your your big wheel corporations and go up there and play that that golf course. It's interesting as heck, it's a it's an experience that you haven't had before. And it's got such a great story behind it, that I hope you do it. I think you'd have a great time. I did it with a couple buddies a couple years ago when it was very new.

And my guess is, the more of the grasses that have grown in and the more maturity, it's only going to be even better than we experienced. Oh, I bet. And I would love to do that.

I would absolutely love to do that. And how about the numbers, john, in the millions and millions of dollars for education for the families of our fallen? I can't honk that enough. It's just so cool. Dan Rooney did a great job with that. But man, the way he describes it, Nicholas was kind of the key to so much of it wasn't he just just lending his name and kind of given Rooney the that that that lifeline right when it was needed most really as a as a last last resort. You know, john, it's so interesting. It reminds me of our dear friend that would taught us that when the pupil is ready, the teacher appears. And not to get too deep into some of the stuff that we talk about off the show. But I mean, it's amazing how you put things out in the universe life, God, however you want to look at it, and how that that void gets filled, isn't it?

It's absolutely fantastic. Apparently, it's the way that works most of the time, whether we're aware of it or not. No, and I think the you know, the old sage Sally Forbes used to talk to us about things like that. And I can I won't speak for you. But you can imagine some of the eye rolling that I used to do. Because you know, I already knew everything. It's a beautiful thing to know everything until you realize you don't really know much of anything, isn't it?

Nothing at all. I mean, john, it also reminds me of of walking in with you and paving and and being disgruntled a little bit because we had to sit down in front of coach john wooden and listen to him talk to us again. Don't worry that out. That's one of the best times of my life. That's also one of the most embarrassing times of my life on how I handled that.

I mean, nobody knew how I handled it other than me because I wanted to probably go have a beer or something like that instead of it. But yeah, missed opportunities in life for sure. Yeah. Oh, man, when I think back. You know, john, one of the things that I talked to Dan Rooney about, and we he talked in the show is this Patriot Golf Day. And one of the things that's just amazing.

We talk about this all the time. But here's another aspect, john, of how golf provides and how golf it just supports. I mean, to make that kind of money.

What did he say? $15 million in a single day over this Patriot Golf Day and idea is it's just remarkable. And it also talked, you know, john, in this country that we live in, and we are not going to get political on this show by any stretch. But Pearl, we live in such a phenomenal country and with so much giving, we hear so many charitable people out there. It'd really be cool if somewhere along the line, instead of talking about murders and carjackings and things like that, somebody talked about that, because people are giving of themselves of their time of their resources to huge levels every single day. Yeah, absolutely. The country is phenomenal for that. And this folds of honor gives the rest of us an opportunity to kind of participate, which is I think why it's so popular. Yeah, it really does. And to think of, you know, john, Dan Rooney is the only person in the world that is a member of the PGA or any sort of PGA and a fighter pilot. I don't even know where to go there.

What one is cool and fun and appropriate. The other thing is, the fighter pilot part is just so elite, it's hard to even make a comparison to anything. I know. And when you start thinking about that combination, you're like, how did that happen? But that's the sort of uniqueness that this guy provides.

And then for him to take those two things and create folds. Wow, just a remarkable guy in a true patriot. For sure. Absolutely. And I appreciate that we've had him on the show a couple times. And I'm sure he's somebody you're going to keep in the Rolodex for a long time to come because he keeps doing fantastic things that I know you want to support with your show and all of your efforts.

Absolutely. All right, Pearl. So these last couple minutes, we're going to talk about this new venture that we're doing together. It's called whack and chase, you can go to whack and chase.com. We are going to be the click and clack of golf for you folks that don't know who click and clack are. They were these brothers that had one of the if not the longest one of the longest shows on National Public Radio, where they diagnosed car issues for people on the radio, you're going to call in, john and I are going to diagnose your golf issues.

And we are going to have a ball at it while we do it. Yeah, we probably did what 30 of them or something like that Jay through the last four years on the golf with Jay Delcey show. There were a lot of fun and they're all over the place. Sometimes it's just kind of a subtle conversation with a little little tidbit here and there maybe something in in their lives in the colors lives with had to do with golf. Other times, it was roaring funny.

I was listening to some of them last night as we're working to edit some of them for the promo. And I'm sitting there kind of listening to these as my wife's watching TV and I am belly laughing out loud. It was just it's just so fun to hear some of the stories and the ideas that people have and perspectives that they have with themselves and golf. And I thought you and I did some nice a couple nice jobs, asking questions and kind of prompting them in the right direction. It's really about having fun, not to make fun with anybody but to have fun. And at the end of the day, they get a golf lesson from a what are you 35 year PGA Pro and really helped their game. So I think it's a nice combination. I think we can really help them to john I think we can really give them some some tips and have some laughs.

So it's going to be a blast whack and chase.com. You're going to have the opportunity to book a phone conversation with us and and have a lot of fun pearl. Thank you again for the four plus years of doing the show.

You know, I love you. I so appreciate being with you. The show wouldn't is not going to be the same without you. It'd be a hell lot better.

Anyway, really appreciate it. That's gonna wrap up another show. But folks, don't forget about whack and chase and don't forget about next week. We will Danny Mac and I will be starting I guess an old new adventure together.

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