Why does God allow Suffering? Dane Ortlund

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The promise of the gospel, what the Bible is telling us in Isaiah 25 8, is that all of the losses that you walked through life experiencing are coming back to you. Welcome to Family Life Today, where we want to help you pursue the relationships that matter most. I'm Shelby Abbott and your hosts are Dave and Ann Wilson. You can find us at familylifetoday.com.

This is Family Life Today. Well, I'm excited we've got Dane Ortlund back with us. He's not sitting across the table in the studio, but we get to tune in to part two of a sermon we listened to yesterday with Dane at his church. And if you've ever read any of his books, one of my favorites is Gentle and lowly. We've had him on several times, but we've never played any of his sermons from his Naperville Presbyterian Church. And this one is one of those sermons.

Yeah. Yesterday we heard Dane preach on Isaiah 25 verse six, which basically is about the new heaven and the new earth. And the point is, Isaiah was telling us that our longings that are unfulfilled in this world will finally be completely satisfied in the next world.

Who doesn't want that? Oh, I know. I mean, it's like, man, you talk about a hope for the resurrection.

That's where it is. But then I'm going to tease it out a little bit. He's going to talk about the resurrection in this next part of his sermon.

So enjoy. Point number two, your heart will come home. Verse seven, and he will swallow up on this mountain the covering that is cast over all peoples, the veil that is spread over all nations. That's an odd verse. If I said to you, could you please put lines two and three of that verse in your own words?

What would you say? The covering that is cast over all peoples, the veil that is spread over all nations. The Hebrew text, that's exactly what it says.

Here's the idea. And it was so much fun to wrestle with the Hebrew text and open up some good commentaries and discover what this text is saying in verse seven. The idea is we will move from what Lewis called the shadowlands into solidity and substantiality and reality when we are in the risen state. We tend to think, do you not think this way, I find myself thinking this way, that this world is the bright one and in a future life it's going to be murkier, darker. We tend to think this world is the, this life on this planet, this life, though fallen, is the solid one, and the next one is going to be, our final one, is going to be less substantial, more shadowy, dreamlike. We tend to think this world is where we are home and in some future life we're going to feel a little bit out of place. I want you to know today it's exactly the opposite. This world is the one where we are out of place. This life is where we are strangers or foreigners, and one day, verse seven is saying, in the resurrection that God brings, the blanket of futility that is soaking and infecting everything in your life is going to be pulled back. That's what's being meant by this covering being pulled away. Here's the way Motyer looks like Motyer, M-O-T-Y-E-R, my favorite commentator on Isaiah. If you want to get a commentary and kind of follow along, that's the one I would commend to you. He has two, a big one and a short one.

Get the short one. Alec Motyer, explaining Isaiah 25, seven, writes, until that day dawns, that resurrection day, the whole world is in the shadows. The covering's going to be pulled back. Until that day dawns, the whole world is in the shadows, we are born into it, and therefore we do not recognize that what we call light is but twilight. Oh my.

Did you get that? What we call light, this fallen life, when we get to the risen state, we're going to look back and say, it's like my phone tells me 5.17 a.m. today was the sunrise. Think about what it was like outside at like five. A little bit of gray, the light just starting, nothing like what we're looking at right out there right now. That's what it'll be like. 5 a.m. on a mid-June morning is like this life. Noon on a sunny June day is what the resurrection existence is going to be like. The covering's going to be pulled back.

Do you remember that little place tucked into the end of Romans 13 where Paul says the same thing? You know the time, Paul says Romans 13, verse 11, you know the time that the hour has come for you to wake from sleep, for salvation is nearer to us now than when we first believed, and then he says, verse 12, Romans 13, 12, the night is far gone. The day is at hand.

We're living in human history and it's like 4.30 a.m. And when Jesus comes back, it's going to be daytime. We're all going to wake up and be home. The covering, the veil that lies over this world, that lies over your life is going to be pulled back and we will stand there, astonished, blinking, looking around, saying this is where I always wanted to be. Your heart will be home, point number two. Your longings will be satisfied.

Your heart will come home. This is Family Life Today, and we're listening to Dane Ortlund as he's in the middle of a sermon that he gave at his church, and it never fails. Whenever I listen to Dane Ortlund, whether it's a sermon that he gave or if he's in studio, I cry.

You're crying right now. Because he makes the gospel and eternal life look so beautiful and appealing, like I can't wait to experience that. Yeah, and really all he's doing is saying this is what scripture tells us. Yes.

Old Testament scripture. And I know we feel what he's saying. It's like I don't feel like this is home. There's a lot of things about our life on planet Earth that feels great, but there's this longing that I'm not completely satisfied. So point one, he's like, you'll never be satisfied here, but you will be there. And then point two is like, I thought this was home, but it doesn't feel like home. And then finally, what we were made for will be our final destination of home. So, I mean, you talk about exciting, but he's not done. He's not done.

There's a third point, and here it is. And thirdly and finally, and most wondrously, your pain will be reversed. Verse eight. He will swallow up death forever. And the Lord God will wipe away tears from all faces. And the reproach of his people, that's you. He will take away from all the Earth. Wow. Death will go away.

No, not just go away. Be swallowed up. The text does not say death will be lessened or mitigated. Death will be swallowed up, and then look, friends, at the next couple of lines, the second and third lines of verse eight here, which speak in the second line of your sadness going away and in the third line of your shame going away. Sadness, pain from within, tears. Shame, reproach, disgrace, pain coming from without. The Lord God will wipe away tears from all faces.

What will that moment be like? God will himself, the Bible says, wipe away every tear. He doesn't hand you a tissue and say, here you go. You wipe away the tear. He does it. He goes from face to face, from cheek to cheek. Have you been in tears this week?

I have. I wonder what has brought tears for you this week. It's going to be reversed. The deeper your cringe here, the deeper your sigh there. That's what it means, that he's going to go from one person to another, wiping away the tears. That's what God is like. And then line number three, and the reproach, oh, the pain of reproach. The reproach means the disgrace, the shame of his people. He will take away. It does not say the reproach will be taken away. He will take away.

He will do it. Everything that makes you turn red, every stabbing comment, ridiculing, people having a laugh at your expense, everything that you hate about yourself is going to fold back onto corresponding glory. The point here, guys, is death, God resurrects death, and all that is a part of death or connected to it is going to be reversed, swallowed up. In other words, our hope, by which I don't mean we hope, but what we know is going to happen, it's just not ours yet, is, here's what I mean by resurrection, is reversal and escalated restoration. That is the biblical doctrine of resurrection.

Reversal and escalated restoration. Here's what I mean by that. I would like to ask you to think about your life, okay? Now, we got lots of different ages. I want you all, I'm including you kids, okay?

I want you all to think about your life. Would you not agree that your life began basically generally by gains? In other words, you started and you gained physical size and grew. You gained language. You learned how to speak. You gained a family of some kind, parents or a parent. You continued to grow.

You went through your teens. Some of you aren't there yet, but most of you have been, and you gained friends. You gained education. You gained knowledge. You were gaining. You were getting. You were acquiring.

You were becoming bigger. And then it hits you as you're living your life that it seems like actually you're losing more than you're gaining. Now, every one of us has a different unique individual journey. Some of us would say, oh, it was at a very, very young age when I experienced profound loss and heartache.

Here's all I'm trying to point out. Our life starts as gains, and then as you go through life, you start losing things. You lose friendships.

You might lose a marriage, a job. You might begin losing memory, your hair. My kids tell me, Dad, your hair is not even turning gray anymore.

It's turning white now. You put on pounds. And as you, I mean, I'm 44. I'm probably a little over half dead if I live the length that my grandparents did. Maybe I'm way more than half dead.

Who knows? And as you go through life, what you realize is your life is closing in on you as the years go by. It's coming in. And you begin to realize, oh, I'm actually never going to do that thing I dreamt about doing when I was 20. I'm never going to have that career I envisioned or the body I wanted or the spouse I wanted, the financial stability that I expected, the health I assumed I would have. Your life closes in.

Here's all I want you to walk out of here with today. Do you not realize what the promise of the gospel is? What's the promise of the gospel? You might say forgiveness of sins. Oh, yes. That's right at the heart of it.

But much more. The promise of the gospel, what the Bible is telling us in Isaiah 25, eight, is that all of the losses that you walked through life experiencing are coming back to you. Everything good you ever had and lost and everything good you ever wanted and never had, you're going to get.

There is no final sacrifice if you're in Christ. You get it all back. That's what I mean by reversal and escalated restoration. This world is slipping through your and my fingers. But it's all going to rebound and come bouncing back. This black and white world, this is the phantasmal ephemeral one.

And it's going to come back in full living color. In other words, your resurrection is not a consolation. Like when you get second or third place in the tournament, so you get a consolation prize because you didn't win. Your resurrection is getting everything back supremely, God, and all your other longings and desires as you come home. I have just one last question as I close. How do you know for certain that that's for you? The answer is you say to God, I don't have what it takes.

That's what it takes. Why is Moab excluded throughout the passage? The answer of verses 11 and 12 of chapter 25 is pride, by which the text means self-resourced saving. You don't get in to this promise so that this is your inevitable future by pulling out a credit card or checkbook.

You get in by saying, I have no payment. God, will you have me anyway? And he says, those are the only terms on which you get in because there was someone else who would come about seven centuries after Isaiah was writing this, who was swallowed up by death on a cross, whose longings went unmet so that yours, though not deserving it, can be met. The Lord Jesus made the payment on your behalf, so the conclusion of my sermon, and I would really ask you if you have checked out mentally to hear me say this. It's going to be the last sentence of my sermon and then I'll pray. The point of my sermon today is you're going to be okay.

That's the point. So I'll see you there. Let's pray. Our Father in heaven, we receive the promises of Isaiah chapter 25 that you are going to raise us and we will look around and not be wondering, but isn't there a little bit more or different for me? We thank you and we bless you for the Lord Jesus who is giving this to us. In Jesus name.

Amen. Well, this is family life today, and that was Dane Ortlund preaching at his church in Naperville, Illinois. And let me tell you, when he said, the point of my sermon is you're going to be okay.

That is such a word that we need to know. I need to hear that, don't you? Yeah, that's why I was like, it's so simple, yet it's profound.

Well, I think about our listeners and maybe situations where you're thinking, no, I'm not. And I remember reading this scripture to my sister three days before she passed away, because I thought, no, we're not going to be okay. But I do remember reading that verse eight to her.

He will swallow up death forever, and the Lord God will wipe away tears from all faces and the reproach of his people he will take away from all the earth, for the Lord has spoken. And I thought, she is going to be okay, because she has the best to come. She will be with Jesus in a few days. Yeah, and her longings will be satisfied.

She'll finally be home, and death will be swallowed up. And my mom's there. My mom's there. My dad's there. My dad's there. My little brother's there. My sister's there. And that is a word for all of us.

You will be okay. And we will be there one day. And I think our longings, the closer we get, the stronger our longings are to be with him. And you know what Dane's talking about is real. There is an afterlife.

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