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September 7, 2022 10:00 pm
Curious about the story behind Lifemark, the latest movie by the Kendrick brothers? Stephen & Alex discuss the stunning true story behind the film.Show Notes and ResourcesFind Lifemark in a theatre near youRegister for our Weekend to Remember now 50% off for our fall sale.Check out more films from the Kendrick brothers.Find resources from this podcast at shop.familylife.com.Find more content and resources on the FamilyLife's app!Help others find FamilyLife. Leave a review on Apple Podcast or Spotify.Check out all the FamilyLife podcasts on the FamilyLife Podcast Network
We told people if you hang out with us you will be less impressed with us and more impressed with the God that we serve. It's right so we don't know what were doing, but we are constantly praying in the following whatever God told him and he blows our minds with the time you were to family life today to help you pursue relationships that matter most time and Wilson and Dave Wilson and you can find his daily life today that, or on our family life, family life today. I got Alex and Stephen Kendrick in the studio with this today that you had a movie coming out this week is going to be awesome were all going to the movies on Friday night Alex and Stephen welcome to family life today is always good to talk to you guys were excited were always excited to be with you producing such great material movies from families.
Thanks for all you're doing and tell us like what's your new newest project you Noel. We had just finished overcome. A few years ago 2019 and Kirk Cameron gives me a call out of the blue he says, a man I got something you just got a look at.
He had said yeah yeah by way Kirk Cameron calls militant.
Do you not just like how do you do ball right so he called me up yeah he says I just saw a short documentary called. I lived on Parker Avenue so he says he got a look at it. So I do up, pulled up, look at it it impacts me way deeper than I would've expected. I show it to Stephen. It is just beautiful and so we start talking about this being a feature film, and the more Stephen. I prayed about it the more he felt like the Lord was saying yes you can tell the little ladies and so we met the real people. It's about but essentially it boils down to follows this 18-year-old girl who, at the last second rolls off the abortion table says don't do this to the doctor. She places her baby for adoption. It's adopted by a Christian couple, but could not have their own children may name the baby David. When David turned 18. He crossed paths with his biological mother while she thought he would hate her.
And when he met her. He just wraps her up and cries and says thank you thank you thank you for letting me live relating to be adopted. I love my life. I'm so grateful and it just melts her heart and that was recorded somebody video recorder. That's we saw that interaction and then both of them now speak for life in the beauty of adoption and share their story in their impacting so many people's lives, so Kirk helped this turn this into a feature film about this true story.
And so it comes out this week.
September 9 yes and so you get a life Mark movie.com find the theater. This closest to you. We can't wait for people to see it in to see what God does with Athena you just described with David hugging his birth mom. I had to posit and tell Dave I posit I need to go get some thinking and emotional me.
We had popcorn. We watched it obviously that you know in our living room because we gotta advance screening.
We have popcorn and Coke and you can eat popcorn coat during this movie, but it's very emotional. You laugh to get out. We try to always have humor, inspiration, emotion, and truth all wrapped up into a boat so Diane and were you comforting him when Dave sobbing. Watching this film, I tell you the truth that Wesley does happen when we are both trying it is a 100% every movie I've ever seen. I cry. I have a men's group and they just make fun of me. Once I were on a trip and they put in some movie that there's that there like there's no way you can cry this movie and I found part in the movie. It was firehouse dog firehouse dog will text me like dad is crying.
Firehouse dog God comes back to the firehouse is a little bit about that and all of our babies.
You should the kid that does the filming in the movie get our hands.
A friend of David, is that yet. Is that how it went down. Is there really a kid that did that well when you're making a real story. You gotta combine 20 people in the one sometimes it's so David Scott and who the real stories about he had multiple friends there with him on the journey you see some of them in the documentary sitting at a table when he writes a letter to his parents and there was a guy named Philip who went with him was on the train ride with him filming the whole thing. The skydiving all of that kind of stuff so we combined all of those into Nate's character that's in the movie, which is that I immediately made is hilarious.
In the real, just a starting role.
Life is hilarious so people like you know straightman funnyman. You can follow that, buddy rod between these two guys is young and we got her permission to do that is the only somebody that the film we think about six different people and just make one person because of the nature of the role the movie everybody else is portrayed pretty much exactly as they really are in real life. And so it is a pretty accurate depiction of their store and you can't argue with the true story writer asking is this emotional for you guys to create this film. If yes, it was of Singapore. Stephen has adopted his beautiful daughter, Mia, but for me, and I have six kids myself, but for me, you know was so moving was having the real people on set with us watching this be portrayed and be even being able to speak into it. This is what I was thinking at this point.
This is why I was nervous for what I was doing and are actors getting to talk to the real people about walk us through this event in your life and they were able to portray it on screen. That was just beautiful. It was emotional but again, I hope you just grabs the heart of the audience to because if we can draw them biblical truths and how they view life how they view the beauty of adoption and as always we just think you can make a huge impact.
I had not heard the term life Mark until I saw that moment in the movie explained that a little because I was powerful yet so at the end of the movie David sends Melissa his biological mother. This gift she opens the small boxes she sees a note 1st and it says dear Melissa this is to mark the day you chose life that she pulls out this pendant with life Mark on and it's the date she changed her mind and said I'm letting this child live in a place for adoption. So the life Mark was that day and so she wears that now is a reminder of that beautiful choice. I'm letting this child live on.
I'm letting him be adopted by a loving family and you know the line is long for parents wanting to adopt even in our country alone.
That is a long line, and so with Roe versus Wade being overturned, there will be more births and we want people to know that there is hope. If you cannot raise this child than there are couples that are looking for child to adopt and for Stephen adopted his beautiful daughter, Mia and the Kirk Cameron himself adopted or of his six children, and even his wife. Chelsea was an adopted child, and so it meant meant so much our whole team and again we hope that that audience agrees with yet.
Did you guys have any thoughts when you were working on this movie, or even as you started that you look at the script and write it out that the Supreme Court ruling was going to come in your move is going to release right after that was that in the planter. No. In fact, the way God has worked behind the scenes we tell people if you hang out with us, you'll be less impressed with us and more impressed with the God that we serve. It's right so we don't know what were doing, but we are constantly praying and then following whatever God tells us to do and then he blows our minds with the timing of how he works. Everything else that's right best. Every time we say Lord what he wants to do.
He usually directs us in the path and were like okay, how's this going to go by giving avoided war room scared as the Lord is waking us up in the middle the night waking up and I see these images in my head of this elderly woman praying in a closet teaching a young wife to do it as she faces a lot of hardship and then all these verses are coming to mind and I'm thinking Lord is this the direction you want us to go because closets art cinematic prayer is not that exciting to portray on film.
Are you sure you want us to make this movie in war room, became our first number one hit at the theater. It outdid every projection that Sony had and we were astonished at its responses. Sometimes God says, trust me first. Then you'll learn why later. So this movie, we did know was gonna happen. We know about Roe versus Wade. We do know about all the timing, the Lord did this and so that's what were so excited to see what the Lord does with the spell at amazing.
I think the thing that so impressive you guys is that you hear from God yet having dreams are having these pictures in your head. Is that typical for you both it and what I would say it is common but the Lord sometimes moves in different ways. Sometimes it's the verse that jumps off the Bible page at you is like God said focus on this thing right now. And sometimes it's after a season of prayer, so he has woken me up in the night before that. It's not that way with every film, but what is common is the Lord pointing us in a direction of the peace about it. Stephen will as well and we don't move forward until we were in unity and just watching what God does. So you know God, you know he he directs us in ways that are clear to us in whatever manner that is but we we've learned you know be quiet. Sometimes listen see Kim did in his word until it is clear and then you perceive but I think that's encouraging because sometimes we want all the answers ahead of time after that God is saying go you walk forward. I'm giving you this direction right and then he gives you some the pieces later. That's well and walking by faith requires that we move forward in obedience with the light that he's illumined in front of the car driving through the dark and when we moved 100 yards down the road you know he illumines the next step that we need to take and so if you read Hebrews 11. Oftentimes he gives them enough to obey him. But then he reveals the next steps when they move forward in obedience and so our whole journey has been us moving forward by faith in God, then providing the rest of the script or providing the resources to shoot it or the locations and sometimes it's in the last hour when the Lord shows up with the Hail Mary pass in the end zone, but he is been faithful on every project we worked on to carry us and lead us into blessed and so we got to the point where we just know if he confirms he's in it and that's one of the keys people say oh God told me to do this for God told me to do that. What he may or he may not have, but if he's in it he will confirm it will confirm it with a piece to confirm it with his word will confirm it. Oftentimes, with counsel, circumstances will begin. Doors will open and close provision will fall into place and so we have learned that if you get a great idea.
At 3 o'clock in the morning. It may be a dumb idea when you wake up you really process it and but if it won't go away and it lines up with the word and the provision is showing up in the doors opening move forward by faith and trust the Lord amid what you're talking about actually happens is you know in the movie. I don't want to give way. You know, the whole movie. I don't know how much you want are your listeners to know before they go to the theater, but when David's mom's in the abortion clinic and I did know that scene was coming.
I you notes later and her laying there. It is sure is pretrade that she heard get out yet. As I went down so yes the way she tells it.
So two things happen there. So when she's walking in there is a Christian lady on the side, urging her not to go in and she literally said a man.
Your baby has 10 fingers and 10 toes. Please don't fill it. Your listening to David and Wilson with Steven and Alex Kendrick on family life today we hear more of the story in just a minute, but first I know some of you have actually already been to a weekend to remember marriage get away.
But we just wanted to make sure you've heard that there is a lot changed. We have a new speaker lineup an entirely different guidebook and so much of the getaway has been changed and intentionally curated for you and your spouse to grow together right now would be a great time to head back to weekend to remember and now through September 19. Their 50% off. So find a date location that works for email@example.com right now, back to David and with Steven and Alex Kendrick and how the simple thought of your baby has 10 fingers and 10 toes kept repeating in David's mom's head while she was inside the abortion.
She kept thinking of that this baby has 10 fingers and tender. This is a human baby.
This is not just a clump of mass in the clump of cells. This is a human life is that she went in and she's laying there she hears the voice get up there still time which was just moments before the doctor started the procedure so she said she sits up and she says please don't do this and she gets off the table. It irritates the doctor and so she walks out. Changes are close when she walks out of the centers he or she never looks back and she reflects on that moment that lacing your baby has 10 fingers and 10 toes and so she said those moments in our hearing.
Lord Proctor get up in the net. Lacing your baby is 10 fingers and toes. He said that could leave her mind and that she so grateful to. She said it was about 3 to 4 seconds and David would not be here today and today.
Just so you know he recently passed the bar exam.
He's now a full lawyer just got married and he's helping now as part of his legal duties he is helping couples adopt children, and it is just so beautiful that it this is now another generation that's being started because he's here and sort were very excited to we talk about how this movie demonstrates that one courageous decision in a moment of fear can blast and change so many lives and that you see that in that moment when everything was against her feelings or emotions her boyfriend everybody else that she chose what she believed God was leading her to do and in the blessings that have resulted in now a movie that could potentially go to countries around the world and promote life and adoption for such a time as this will Steven you've had the opportunity to adapt your little girl, Mia wetted that feel like in the courtroom for her adoption take us back to that well for us.
My wife and I had had for biological children and the Lord spoke to me on an airplane when I was reading his word. He confirmed in his word. He confirmed it with what he was leading me to do with my wife with prayer and that the doors open for us to adopt her. I remember being in China and staining their meeting her for the first time holding her for the first time and there's this immediate bond that God gives you this love for this adopted child is equal to your biological children. She is such a special place in my heart and then through that process of adoption you learn about spiritual adoption in living color in front of you. Because of these and says that God adopts us into his family.
When we give our lives to Christ, he becomes our father, and he loves us unconditionally. He blesses us with every spiritual blessing, he forgives us of all of our sins and pays all of our debts and we have access to his heart his throne in prayer. Because of that adoption so it was through that adoption process with media that all of those light bulbs begin to go on for me about what God does for each one of his children I have is just reading Romans eight today.
Romans 815 10 because you're doing your one year by vibrant the spirit you receive does not make you slaves so that you live in fear again rather the spirit you received brought about your adoption to son ship, and by him we cry, Abba father yes and Dave and I were just in a courtroom couple days ago and our middle son has two bio daughter and son and then he just adopted two sons their biological brothers and it was emotional. I think it is exactly what you guys said and he said Stephen it makes you feel the beauty of God's adoption toward us and now you also see the beauty and grace of God taking us in drafting us in this little boy way that they just adopted. He is our grandson yesterday as we just wept the holdup there wasn't that long process you to buy every here's a picture of you know this little sign that they took before hand beautiful. You know, before every picture we sent out you had to cover his face because he was just a foster child, but now he's right. I have chosen I wanted. I am loved.
I'm accepted. I am a Wilson, yes, and as you guys know sitting there watching the judge say he has all the rights, yes of being a Wilson and you can never take these away. I just yeah I was weeping because I knew the future.
He could've would've had right. And now the future he will have and it's just with the same for us.
Our destiny without Christ our destiny as a son and daughter of the king. It's such a beautiful thing.
So I'm in your movie portrays that in such a powerful way. I'm hoping people see it and they become advocates for adoption for life for life. I'm sure that was your hope as well well and in life. Mark is you remember when you saw it.
There is those scenes where Kirk Cameron's the adoptive father turns to his son and he says God gave you to me and mom is a gift and you will always be our son. He is saying that as an adopted father to a son who's about to go meet his biological mom and wing, and he knew that inside of his heart and mind. There would be others mixed of emotions as to who am I and there's a lot of adopted kids who they don't treasure their adoption.
They don't realize how priceless and precious. This gift is and that yes there adoptive parents are their parents now weed we tell our daughter and we said all along, from the beginning that she is a gift from the Lord God wanted her to be in our family. We chose her. We love her and that her future is bright and hopeful. And we always present adoption in a positive wonderful like this is something super special about her life that God chose for her to not only be born, but he chose for her to grow up in our family and we know God has great plans for her and I think the body of Christ for such a time as this needs to get a bigger heart for adoption because so many people have said hey the endgame is to overturn Roe V Wade in no way, you know, in God's big picture overturning Roe V Wade is like a touchdown in a big long journey and that we have to view it as discipleship at every level that we want to show compassion for these young girls that are in these unwanted pregnancies and disciple them to faith in Christ is as you know, sometimes it even if they put this baby for adoption. They may be back pregnant, you know, a few months from now unless somebody reaches them with the truth of the gospel and God begins to turn their hearts towards their heavenly father in Christ rather than trying to find love in a passing whim or a passing experience, but the church also needs to show compassion for the unborn and they need to show compassion for these parents that can't have biological children and I need to show compassion for the children in the foster care community that are around them. I think that life mark can be used as a tool to not only reach the head with the true story but reach the heart with inspiration and hopefully God can use it like a weapon in this journey that were on to overcome evil with good. I'm guessing your dream your vision is even as people sit in the theater or like we did sit on the couch and watch it when it's then released after the theater that God will speak to them that we've Artie talked about God moving, but God will speak and say I'm calling you is that part of your dream.
Our prayer is that not only do we commit a project to the Lord, but that the Holy Spirit speaks to people's hearts while they watch it because God knows exactly what each person in every theater seat needs to hear. And God can speak to them about something totally unrelated to adoption and abortion or live for any of these things and he can touch their life about their need for him about their need to be courageous with the decisions that are being placed in front of them about going home and loving their bio kids you know they got home and spending more time with them so we are asking that the Lord's hand a favor and blessing be upon every project that we do so that people yes there entertained and yes there inspired, but that they have an encounter with the Lord and that they walk out of the theater or they might be looking at their cell phone on an airplane watching one of these films and God can touch their heart and forever change their life is so interesting because as I hear you say that I go through each of your movies sorry big hand I've seen all of them and that is happened every time there's been a moment. I can kind of see those visions in my head of even the war room how she's praying over her home and taking back her home and her marriage for Jesus and to stand on the foundation of Christ, that is, I gotta tell you this, but I've watched her do it on our back deck. Yes, yes, which is severely and really it with the vision was from seeing it on the theater screens and we can do that and we need to do that in the same thing that happened with this movie. It's the power of the story. The power of visual that the Holy Spirit uses in our own lives to really speak to us and move us into action. Isn't it interesting that you and I often will have trouble. Clearly remember remembering a sermon that we heard a month ago but we will remember a motion picture that we saw 10 years ago Absalom so that that's why these pictorial emotional stories can carry so much weight in people's lives.
So I hope this movie, which is based on a true story.
When people see it, it will grab their heart and instill in them the beauty of life, the beauty of adoption and that that will influence our culture.
If not, our leaders when they're making laws so again it's not just about our individual rights is also about the preciousness of life existing will thank you for what you guys do.
It is the it's more than a ministry. You know this. It's a calling that is impacting the world the Christian community.
But the world and we are just beneficiaries of that. So thank you know if you want to give us a heads up of what's coming next. You gather plans for the next movie or do we want to not let anybody know well well we have this couple. This dynamic couple. He's baldheaded fuses pretty blonde lady there spies that night and they help our government during the daytime or just talk show up just to just be family friendly talk shows how they find out we were as undercover. I guess you do a movie on the. The saga of the Detroit Lions chaplain for 33 seasons be in the losing as chaplain and history of the NFL. I think there's a movie there while the child what in heaven all the impact for the kingdom of God.
Now say you are the winning is a little because it remained which was God's real goal in the situation there you go in. I like how your thinking and our producer Jim just said somehow Wilson got football in the interview. Again, that I guarantee it. Yeah you heard no matters may say a minute ago that the Roe V Wade decision touchdown. I know big scheme of things. I almost jumped in there said yeah I like that analogy was yes good to talk to you guys and I also would you been listening to Dave and Ann Wilson with Steven and Alex Kendrick on family life today. The life mark movie launch happens tomorrow. Actually you can find a theater near you by going to family life to a.com or checking it out in the show notes. There are so many options today for birth control but are those options even biblical tomorrow on family life to a winged freedom. Join Steven and to talk about just that, on behalf of David and Wilson. I'm shall be added will see you back next time for another edition of family life to family life in a is a production of family accrued ministry helping you pursue the relationships that matter most