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Begging To Give

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October 2, 2026 3:00 am

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What if one of the clearest signs of generosity isn’t simply how much we give, but how deeply we desire to participate?In 2 Corinthians 8, the apostle Paul describes a group of believers whose generosity was remarkable—not because they had abundant resources, but because they were eager to give even amid significant hardship.Their example shows us what happens when grace transforms the heart.Generosity in the Midst of HardshipPaul is writing to encourage the church in Corinth to participate in a collection for believers in Jerusalem who were experiencing severe need. To encourage them, he points to the churches of Macedonia.But the Macedonians weren’t wealthy benefactors with plenty to spare. Paul writes:“We want you to know, brothers, about the grace of God that has been given among the churches of Macedonia, for in a severe test of affliction, their abundance of joy and their extreme poverty have overflowed in a wealth of generosity on their part. For they gave according to their means, as I can testify, and beyond their means, of their own accord, begging us earnestly for the favor of taking part in the relief of the saints.” - 2 Corinthians 8:1–4Paul describes their circumstances in striking terms: severe affliction and extreme poverty. Yet alongside those circumstances was an “abundance of joy,” and somehow the combination overflowed into generosity.Perhaps the most surprising detail is that they begged to give.Paul wasn’t begging them for money. They were asking Paul for the privilege of participating.From Obligation to OpportunityThat posture can feel unfamiliar. Even within the church, giving can easily begin to feel like another financial obligation—a bill to pay, a percentage to calculate, or a requirement to satisfy. The question becomes, “How much am I supposed to give?”The Macedonians appear to be asking a very different question: How can we be part of this?They knew their brothers and sisters were suffering, and they didn’t want their own difficult circumstances to prevent them from participating in their care.Paul tells us where that desire came from. He begins the passage not by praising the impressive generosity of the Macedonians, but by saying, “We want you to know…about the grace of God that has been given among the churches of Macedonia.”Their generosity was evidence of God’s grace at work in them. Verse 5 takes us even deeper: “They gave themselves first to the Lord.”That came before the money. Before offering their resources, they had entrusted themselves to God.Grace Changes What We TreasureWhen we understand that we belong to Christ and that everything we have ultimately comes from His hand, generosity looks different. It becomes less about losing something and more about participating in what God is doing.That doesn’t mean Scripture calls Christians to give recklessly or neglect legitimate responsibilities. Paul provides important balance later in the same chapter:“For if the readiness is there, it is acceptable according to what a person has, not according to what he does not have.” - 2 Corinthians 8:12Paul continues by explaining that his goal is not for some believers to be relieved while others are left burdened. Rather, he describes a kind of mutual care in which one person’s abundance can meet another person’s need.So the point of the Macedonians’ example is not that everyone should give beyond what they can responsibly afford. The deeper lesson is about the posture of the heart.Do I primarily see generosity as something being taken from me, or as an opportunity God may be placing before me?When I encounter someone in need, is my first instinct to protect what is mine, or am I willing to ask whether God has entrusted me with something I can share?The Macedonians’ circumstances were difficult, but grace had reshaped what they valued.The Greater Example of GenerosityUltimately, Paul doesn’t leave our attention on Macedonia. He points us to Jesus. 2 Corinthians 8:9 says:“For you know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that though he was rich, yet for your sake he became poor, so that you by his poverty might become rich.”That is the foundation of Christian generosity. We don’t give in order to earn God’s favor. We give because, in Christ, we have already received grace beyond measure.And when that grace captures our hearts, generosity begins to change.It becomes more than something we have to do. It becomes something we’re grateful to get to do.On Today’s Program, Rob Answers Listener Questions:I have about $36,000 in student loan debt at 9%, and after decades of repayment I feel like I’m barely making progress. Would paying every two weeks help, and should I consider using home equity to pay it off?I have a whole life policy with a term rider I didn’t realize was included. Should I remove the rider, keep it until it expires, or redirect that money into the whole life policy instead?I’m selling my home for less than I originally paid, but the buyer wants the contract price listed higher to cover closing costs. How would that affect my taxes, and could any gain impact my Social Security?My husband and I own our home, and I want my daughter to inherit it without unnecessary difficulty. What’s the best way to structure that?Resources Mentioned:Become a FaithFi PartnerFaithful Steward: FaithFi’s Quarterly MagazineFaithFi Field Guide: How Much Money is Enough? Our Ultimate Treasure: A 21-Day Journey to Faithful Stewardship by Rob WestWisdom Over Wealth: 12 Lessons from Ecclesiastes on MoneyLook At The Sparrows: A 21-Day Devotional on Financial Fear and AnxietyRich Toward God: A Study on the Parable of the Rich FoolFind a Certified Kingdom Advisor® (CKA)FaithFi App Remember, you can call in to ask your questions every weekday at (800) 525-7000. Faith & Finance is also available on Moody Radio Network and American Family Radio. You can also visit FaithFi.com to connect with our online community and partner with us as we help more people live as faithful stewards of God’s resources. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Have you ever stopped to ask yourself this question: How much money is enough? Most of us never really define it, and when enough is unclear, it becomes a moving target, shaping our decisions, fueling anxiety, and keeping us chasing more without ever finding rest. At Faithfy, we believe God offers a better way. That's why we created the FaithFi Field Guide: How Much Money Is Enough, an interactive Scripture-centered resource designed to help believers explore this question through biblical wisdom, guided reflection, and real-life application. Purchase your copy at faithfi.com/shop.

That's faithf i.com/shop. What if the greatest evidence of generosity isn't how much you give, but how badly you want to? Hi, I'm Rob West. When Paul describes the churches of Macedonia, he tells us something remarkable: these believers were poor and suffering, yet begged for the privilege of giving. Today, we'll look at what their example teaches us about a heart transformed by grace, and then it's on to your calls at eight hundred.

Five two five seven thousand. That's eight hundred five two five seven thousand. This is faith and finance: biblical wisdom for your financial decisions. In Second Corinthians eight, the apostle Paul is encouraging the church in Corinth to participate in a collection for believers in Jerusalem who are experiencing severe hardship. To inspire them, Paul points to another group of believers, the churches of Macedonia.

But he doesn't point to them because they were wealthy. Quite the opposite. Paul writes in Second Corinthians eight one through four. We want you to know, brothers, about the grace of God that. Has been given among the churches of Macedonia.

For in a severe test of affliction, their abundance of joy and their extreme poverty have overflowed in a wealth of generosity on their part. For they gave according to their means, as I can testify, and beyond their means of their own accord, begging us earnestly for the favor of taking part in the relief of the saints. These believers were experiencing a severe test of affliction. Paul. Describes their poverty as extreme.

Yet somehow, abundance of joy and extreme poverty combined to produce a wealth of generosity. And perhaps the most remarkable detail is this: they begged to give. Think about that. Paul wasn't begging them for money; they were begging Paul for the opportunity to give it. They saw generosity as a privilege that can feel almost foreign to us today, even in the church.

Giving can easily become something closer to an obligation—a bill we pay, a percentage we calculate, or even a kind of spiritual tax. The question we might ask ourselves is, "How much do I have to give?" But the Macedonians seem to be asking. Asking an entirely different question: How can we be part of this? They knew their brothers and sisters were suffering, and they didn't want their own hardship to keep them from participating in what God was doing. That's a heart transformed by grace.

In fact, notice how Paul begins this passage. He doesn't say, "Let me tell you about the impressive generosity of the Macedonians." He says, "We want you to know about the grace of God that has been given among." The churches of Macedonia, their generosity was evidence of grace at work in them. And verse five tells us why they gave themselves first to the Lord and then by the will of God to us. That's the key. Before they gave their resources, they had given themselves to God.

When we understand that we belong to Christ and that everything we have comes from His hand, generosity begins to look less like losing something and more like. Participating in something, it becomes a privilege.

Now, we should be careful here. Scripture is not telling us that faithful Christians should recklessly give away money they need to meet legitimate responsibilities. Later in the same chapter, Paul provides important balance in verses twelve through fourteen. He says that a gift is acceptable according to what one has, not according to what one does not have. And then he explains that the goal is not that others.

Might be relieved while you are hard pressed, but that there might be equality at the present time, your plenty will supply what they need, and that in return, their plenty will supply what you need.

So Paul's point isn't that we should give irresponsibly. He's showing us something deeper about the posture of a generous heart. Do I primarily see generosity as something being taken from me, or as an opportunity God is placing before me when I hear about?

Someone in need is my first instinct to protect what's mine, or to ask whether God has given me something I can share. The Macedonians weren't generous because they had plenty left over; they were generous because grace had changed what they treasured. And ultimately, Paul points beyond Macedonia to Jesus Himself. Second Corinthians eight nine says, "For you know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that though he was rich, yet for your sake he became Poor, so that you, by his poverty, might become rich. That is the heart of Christian generosity.

We don't give to earn God's favor. We give because in Christ we have already received grace beyond measure. And when grace captures the heart, generosity stops being merely something we have to do. It becomes something we get to do. All right, your calls are next at eight hundred five two five seven thousand.

That's eight hundred five two five seven thousand. I'm Rob West, and this is Faith and Finance: Biblical Wisdom for. Your financial journey. We'll be right back after this break. How much money is enough?

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NMLS number three nine one seven nine. For licensing information, visit. nmlsconsumeraccess.org. Hey, thanks for joining us today on Faith in Finance. I'm Rob West.

We're taking your calls and questions today. eight hundred five two five seven thousand You can call right now. Let's go to Florida to begin today. Hi, Charlotte. How can I help you?

Yes, sir, and thank you for having me on the line. I must say that it has been a long journey of repayment of a student loan. That I have, and I could say that this student loan stems all the way back to 1992 when I actually had the loans consolidated into. I'm not quite sure whether it's a federal, I can FFELP, and then there were some others. They kind of consolidated three of them.

At the time, and I had Sally Mae as my lender, and I had Navient, and now I have Mohila. At this time, the balance is thirty-six thousand, and interest accrues daily at nine percent.

So you can see my dilemma, just really feeling like I'm walking in place and making payments on this. My question at this time. I'm trying to look at different avenues. At one point, I tried making sort of like a half a payment, one two weeks, or making like by by monthly payments, and that seemed to work a little bit, but I wasn't quite sure. Yeah.

Well, I like that strategy, Charlotte, because anything you can do to get more money going to principal is going to be key. I mean, the challenge is, yeah, rates are high right now. Nine percent on a student loan is on the higher end, and you know, over decades, most of the payment goes to interest, which is why the balance hasn't dropped much. You know, you could look at a private refinance if you have good credit. You could, you know, get down in the five to Seven percent range, that could save you money and interest and get you a past faster payoff.

The challenge is, if it is a federal loan, you would lose those federal protections like the income-driven repayment. That would be the most notable one, and then flexible deferment. You can't refinance within the federal system. All you can do is consolidate, but that doesn't affect your rate. It just averages the rate.

So if it's already Private, you could shop for a lower rate refi, and that could definitely help. And then, if you are in the federal loan program, I would just look for, as you have been, you know, an opportunity for you to you just apply as much as you can to extra principal along the way, similar to what you were doing with that biweekly plan, where you're paying half a payment every two weeks, which gives you one extra full payment a year, and that. The kind of thing that's going to help you get this paid off once and for all. Does that make sense? It does.

Not quite sure in terms of. It appears that because it is a student loan, I'm not able to go ahead and possibly gain. Money from actually mortgage maybe to refi just to pay it off and just add that on to my mortgage. Yeah, I wouldn't do that because what that's going to do is secure that to your home, and you know although there are mechanisms by that way they could collect this, they can't force you to sell your house if for some reason you were unable to pay. And again, if it's federal, you know you're going to have those income driven repay.

Option so if you got into a hard spot, you'd be able to drop your payment lower, even though that's going to extend it further into the future. At least you could keep it current and avoid losing your home, which is what you'd be putting at risk the moment you add it to the house. Not to mention the fact that if you have if you've had this mortgage for a while and you've got an attractive rate, you would have to do a cash out refi, which would likely mean that interest rates going up on that mortgage. All. Although it might bring it down on the student loans, if you're paying more on the mortgage balance, you might end up paying more interest over time.

So I'd probably, well, I would avoid that option, and I'd either stick with what you got and just try to prepay it, or if it's private and not federal, and I'd check on that, then look to refinance and see if you can get that rate down. Charlotte, I hope that helps. You'll get there. We appreciate your call today, Downers Grove, Illinois, Francine. How can I help you?

Hi, Bob. Hi there. Thank you for taking my call. Absolutely. I have a question regarding an insurance policy.

Okay. I currently have a whole life policy.

However, there is an attachment of a term writer on it. Yeah.

Which I did not realize until much later, because at the time when I signed up for it, I was dealing with a death, and I just wasn't attentive to it, and it's got. Kind of snuck this in on me because I wanted just a hole.

However, I want to know if I should drop the term. And opt into what I have is an OPP writer where I can put money into the policy, which will increase the face value. Or if I should just let the term part the writer remain on there until it goes out. But then, like I say, at the same time, it's decreasing the face value and it's costing me money. On the other hand.

Yes. Yeah.

Very good. Yeah.

This is worth investigating, Francine. Especially if you were told that keeping the term rider is reducing the long-term value of your whole life policy. the The term rider is essentially temporary additional life insurance attached to a permanent whole life policy, which can be useful because it provides a larger death benefit without purchasing that entire amount as whole life. But then the term Portion generally doesn't build its own cash value, and of course it carries additional costs. The key is, you know, you have to look at.

Well, first of all, I would ask the insurance company for what's called an in-force illustration showing the policy under different scenarios. You see, life insurance illustrations are designed to show things like benefits and premiums and expenses and cash values and and guaranteed value. Versus non guaranteed, and I'd ask them to illustrate first keeping the policy exactly as it is, including the rider. Second, reducing and removing the term rider, and then leaving the base whole life policy alone. And then third, if available, remove or reduce the rider and increase the permanent.

Face value, and then compare the premium, the guaranteed cash value, the projected cash value, and the death benefit. You know, at various ages like seventy, eighty, ninety, a hundred, things like that. And then I think that's going to give you all the information you need to make the decision. Can you just take the rider off? Possibly.

You know, many policies allow an existing rider to be removed, but the actual contract is going to drive that. At the end of the day, some insurers specifically list term rider cancellation as an available policy change. But you need to ask if I remove this rider, what happens to my premium? What happens to my guaranteed cash value, projected value, and total death benefit? Because that's important.

You know, removing the rider will generally mean giving up additional death benefit provided by the rider. If that makes sense.

Okay, so you said to ask about the premium and the guarantee of yeah.

So the the premium, the guaranteed cash value.

Okay, the the projected cash value, and then the death benefit at various age intervals, like seventy, eighty, ninety. And then you know, and and they could just give you that as an illustration, but but basically, that's going to give you the information you need, so you can compare these side by side and decide you know what makes the most sense as you factor all these issues together.

Okay, that makes sense. Thank you so much.

Okay, thanks for your call today. Lord bless you, folks. This is Faith and Finance back with your questions. Eight hundred five two five seven thousand. We are grateful for support from Praxis Investment Management.

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dot com slash ccc or call eight hundred five five seven one nine eight five. Hey, thanks for joining us today on Faith and Finance. Let's get right back to the phones. Let's go to Cleveland. Hi, Elizabeth.

Go ahead. Hi, thanks for taking my call. I am in the process of selling my house, and I'm not quite sure. My asking selling price is 126 thousand, which is less than I paid for the house. The person who's buying it.

Their mortgage agent wants me to list the price as one hundred and forty thousand, so that the buyer can pay all of her costs. But that will get reported to the IRS as the selling price, and not what I end up getting from it, because she will be using that money to pay the closing costs. I was selling it cheap because she was going to pay all the costs. And then, so I don't know how that would affect taxes. I haven't had to file any taxes in the last few years because my only income was Social Security.

I see.

So now I'm assuming I'm going to have to file taxes on this. Yeah, so let's separate out these issues, Elizabeth. First of all, let's talk about selling the house for less than you paid, and the capital gains. There really won't be any capital gain if, in fact, you're selling it for less than you bought it for. The capital gain is the actual realized amount from the sale minus the cost basis, what you paid for it, you know, plus any improvements you made.

What's called the Adjusted basis, and so you won't have any capital gain just based on you what you described, which means you would have no taxable capital gain to report. I'll come back to that in a moment. What about the buyer's request to put one hundred forty thousand on the contract? You know, you certainly wouldn't want to agree to report a hundred and forty thousand dollars sale price when the true transaction is one hundred and twenty six.

So the buyer. Can obtain an additional fourteen. There is a legitimate structure where the negotiated price includes a seller concession or a credit toward the buyer's closing costs. That's very common, but they have to be disclosed in the purchase contract to the lender and in the closing documents because mortgage programs place limits on seller concessions.

So, for instance, let's say the contract price was one forty, and then in the the You know the contract disclosed properly. There was a seller credit toward the buyer's allowable closing costs of fourteen, and then your true economic proceeds before other expenses would be one twenty-six. That's not the same thing as secretly inflating the price to one forty. In my scenario, the lender, the appraiser, the closing attorney, the title company, the real estate agents should all know about the consent. Fannie Mae actually requires the sales and financing concessions to be disclosed.

So, don't sign an amended 140,000 contract until your closing attorney and title company and real estate agent explain exactly how the 14,000 is being shown and confirm that the buyer's lender has approved it. Lastly, I would just say as to whether or not you'll have to file a return, it's really going to come down. To whether or not you receive that ten ninety nine s, if the if you do, the IRS is going to require that you file, even if you don't have any tax due, because you're going to have to report on that.

So you may have to file a tax return, but you still still shouldn't owe any tax, given that you have no taxable capital gain. Does that make sense? It does make sense. We financed one hundred and twenty-eight thousand.

So, if they want one hundred and forty, and you know, I make sell concessions, but I get everything that's not used for closing. I mean, if I get one hundred and thirty-five for it instead of a one twenty-six, well, that difference make a capital gain. No, but it's it all just depends on how it is written up, and you know you may be agreeing to a seller concession, you know, for the full fourteen, and it would all be used up. But I wouldn't not get. I mean, unless there's some other reason you're selling it at a discount, I wouldn't avoid selling it.

At market value, simply because you're going to have a capital gain. I mean, you're going to be in a 15 percent capital gain bracket.

So, of every dollar of of capital gain you have, where you've you know realized a gain beyond what you know you purchased it for, you're only going to have 15 cents out of every dollar that you have to send to the IRS.

So, I don't know why you wouldn't go ahead and and get the true market value unless. This was a friend you're trying to give a gift to, or something.

Well, it is a friend, but one of my other concerns was if I made too much of a profit, if it would affect my social security. No, no, no. It won't. I mean, it is going to be added to your taxable income, and it could make some of your social security taxable as income, but it may not. And so, what?

Because it sounds like you're going to have a very modest gain, if any. And this is was also your primary residence, right?

Well, it was, except for the last three years. I've been living with my son since my husband died.

Okay, but you get two hundred fifty thousand of gain to set aside as long as you live there as your primary residence for two out of the five years prior to the sale. Yes, I did.

Well, then you get two hundred fifty thousand in gain that you don't have to pay any capital gains on.

Okay. Yeah.

Well, that so I would a lot. You're thanks for calling. Get with your CPA to kind of go over all the details. But yeah, you should be in great shape here, Elizabeth. And I wouldn't want you to sell this at a discount unless you intentionally were desiring to do that.

Let's go to Florida, summer. How can I help? My husband and I we own our home, and I have decided recently to leave the house to my daughter. And I wanted to know how would I go about making sure she does not have any trouble when I'm deceased or when he's deceased, getting the house.

Well, you just want to make sure that you have some estate plans in place to transfer this property to her, and that can come by way of a will, where you would create a will stating that the house goes to your daughter, and that's much better than no estate plan at all. It doesn't avoid probate though, so what would happen is the probate court would review the will, and your executor, working with The probate court would ensure that this property gets transferred according to your will to your daughter, and then she would enjoy what's called a step-up in basis.

So, whatever you paid for it would no longer matter. Her cost basis for tax purposes would become the value the property has of the date of death. It would take a little bit of time. There would be some expense the estate would have to incur through the probate process, but it would eventually get to your daughter. If you had a living trust, which would cost you probably three or four thousand dollars, you could move the house into the trust.

You could remain in control during your lifetime, and then your daughter could also receive it. It's just that that would avoid probate. It would go to her immediately. And then there's another option in Georgia that's probably a middle of the road here in terms of complexity, and it's what's called a transfer on death deed, and this is where it would essentially act like a beneficiary designation, so that even without a living trust, we could get the property to your daughter and bypass the estate process, no probate, and it's called a transfer on death deed. It would have to be recorded with the county, but it would ensure.

That she gets that asset directly. Thanks for calling. Thanks to Devin, Sandy, Taylor, and everybody here at FaithFi. We'll see you next time. Bye bye.

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