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The US and Iran are reportedly close to a deal that would see the lifting of sanctions and a permanent end to the war in the region. However, critics argue that the agreement would allow Iran to maintain its missile program and provide financial support to terrorist groups. The deal has been met with skepticism by some, who question the motivations of the US and Iran, and the potential consequences of the agreement.

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Okay, so let's get into it. The MOU, released or not.

So, this is the tricky aspect of this. The whole Idea of this MOU. If you remember, just I just want to reset the table really quickly. The And this was leaked to, I think it was Bloomberg Media, correct? That's who it was leaked to.

So, this again isn't like some kind of finalized deal to end all deals. This is just to get a ceasefire, right?

So, just so we know where we are.

Now, to that extent, there was, we were told. Initially, that the MOU would be released within 24 to 48 hours.

Well, that's true. And that was on Monday when POTUS was sitting with Emmanuel Macron and they were talking about Iran came up. One of the reporters asked, we played that audio for you.

So then later they said, it'll be Friday. And I thought, that's super odd because Friday is also the end of the news week. Friday is also the day the markets close.

So immediately. You know, I'm a trust but verify kind of person. But I'm also simultaneously, as we discussed yesterday, traumatized, as are all of you, with the whole, we gotta pass it to find out what's in it. Nancy Pelosi thing.

Now, I'm not saying that any Republican in the administration is part of the Pelosi cabal, but we are traumatized nonetheless, are we not? Yes. And we just like to see things. We are a very nosy people. It is in our DNA.

My gosh, you guys, we literally founded this country by being nosy, drinking beer, and kicking ass. That is how America, that's the DNA of America.

So we're very nosy, because that's who we are. And so We wanted to know.

Well, why are we waiting to Friday to put this out? The Iranians immediately on Sunday started pushing what they said was a 14-point plan, right? I didn't want to believe the Iranian regime.

So I'm if you're just joining, I'm rolling through past good at getting you queued up to current time.

So, I didn't want to believe the Iranian regime when this 14-point plan came out on, what was it, Sunday? I wanted to wait to see what the admin says because we all know how Iran operates. They try to influence the outcome of any ongoing negotiation by releasing stuff that they claim everyone's always agree everybody's agreed to, and then. They want to foment outrage if it's not actually agreed to, and hope that influence. impacts the negotiations, right?

So the administration countered in a very bizarre way.

Now, I know POTUS is at G7, and he's at G7 with his Secretary of State, Rubio. And you know, Rubio and Wickoff have led the negotiations here with Iran.

So, you know, I get it, Secretary of State, he's got to go to G7. That's his kind of like a Super Bowl. It's like his tailgate party, right? I get it.

So he's there.

So they have Vance. That goes out. And this is what's weird. And Steve actually brought up a very good point. You have a very Very significant.

Geopolitical Summit. during a time of historic Instability, I would say, and not just instability in the Middle East. But instability and each of the countries that are members of G7. you have protests in Ireland, you've got protests in France, you have this insane story that we're going to dive into coming up, the report on the UK rape gangs. which we've talked about for a long time on this program.

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So they're dealing with that. Keir Starmer. Who is one of the people in charge, by the way, of the inquiries when all of that was happening 10 years ago? They're dealing with that. They got a lot of things to handle.

There's a lot of geopolitical instability. We have this red-green alliance with communists and Islamists that are wanting to puncture our safety here in the United States, infiltrate political movements, and sweep people up in influence. A lot of instability.

So at this precise time. When you have all of this going on, The Vice President decides to undertake A book tour.

Okay. All right. And then Because of the timeline, either on purpose or by accident, I will leave that open for you to determine which is which. He's also simultaneously been tasked. with selling and countering selling the MOU and countering the things that are being said about it.

Now I don't know if it's because he has had. a divided focus because he's No one's asking him about this book. It was all very calculated. He thought this would be a great time to come out with this book. It's, you know, halfway between midterms.

You know, we get it. And now he's got this too. Again, either by design or by accident. I don't know. But he has not.

met the occasion. And I say this to someone, I do not have a dog in the 28 fight. I can pick something that I like and find something objectionable about every single person whose name has even been breathed. As a consideration for 28.

So let's put that BS to the side. This is simply going on just observation of an American who wants our country to be strong and win all the things. He has not met the occasion. I My jaw was dropping. at some of the answers that he was giving to some of these questions.

Now some of these interviews, he's done a ton of them. I haven't watched every single one in full, but I have watched full contextual cuts. There have been a couple that I watched in full, and my perspective, my takeaway was not changed. It remains unchanged.

So for example This is just some of the stuff that I'm talking about. We have this. This is cut five. Where he goes out, and I don't know who's telling him this. Listen to this.

And importantly, we have a constituency right now that is saying that we're going to send boots on the ground. They want Donald Trump to send hundreds of thousands of ground troops into Iran. Who is the same? The best thing is that we Republicans are not. Wait, wait, wait.

Who is saying this? First off, That is an absolute straw man. Find me a Republican who said that. Find me an editorial. Find me a series of tweets.

I'll take a Facebook post. I'll take an Instagram post. I'll take a clip from cable news. I'll take all of it. Not even Lindsey Graham has gone that has said that.

And we all Share a certain opinion about Lindsey Graham. He hasn't even said that.

Now yes, he loves bombs, but he hasn't said that. This is a straw man argument designed to frame any legitimate criticism as being unreasonable. Because of this manufactured premise. That's a tactic of the left to argue that way. Why are we strawmanning this issue right now?

Now granted, we can absolutely have debates as to how do we deal with Carg Island and how is the best way to go about enriched uranium. What's the that's fine, that's all well and fine. But to sit here and say that anybody has demanded The insertion of hundreds of thousands of troops into Iran is a lie. That's not true. And again, I'm not a zealot.

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Clip. Instagram post, Facebook, anything. Had there been that, that hard example would have been given at that time. And there's a reason that it wasn't.

Now On that This is the other thing that is really a big takeaway. This was cut seven. Why can't they see? Why can't we all see the MOU right now?

Well, so first of all, the president said by the latest Friday, possibly as early as tomorrow, we're going to release the memorandum on understanding text. The reason why we haven't released it yet is there are some delicate diplomatic things going on where the Iranians, and not just the Iranians, but some of our mediators, the Pakistanis and the Qataris, have asked us to sequence this in the right way. I don't, frankly, fully understand it, but there are sensitivities that exist in the Arab and Muslim world.

Okay, why do we care about their sensitivities? Number one, why was that question not asked? If we're going to talk about hard-hitting journalism, why wasn't the follow-up, why do we care about their sensitivities? The second follow-up should have been, why is Qatar and Pak wire Qatar in Pakistan. Determining U.S.

response here, two entities that are not even party to any of this. Why are they the ones that are trying to lead and quote unquote sequence, whatever the hell that means, the negotiations? Why wasn't that a follow up with his hard hitting journalism? I mean, I think we would all love the answer to that. What sensitivities?

Why do we care about their sensitivities? Pakistan? The entity that harbored Osama bin Laden, we're going to pretend that they have any authority here? Qatar, who is thick and thin with Iran? And it and actually allowed Hamas.

To to stay in Their country? Qatar, which allowed al-Qaeda to create a headquarter there. Really? We're going to allow these two countries to quote unquote sequence. Negotiations We are the United States of America.

We do not care about the sensitivities of any third world bronze aged goat fornicating hellhole. And that is the only response that we should have to any such issue of sensitivities that is laid before the United States at the negotiating table. And if anybody Takes any issue with that stance, they can go and pound all the sand in the Sahara with all their whatever virgins, their s what that their sex cult promises.

So, I don't understand this whole thing with sensitivity. That almost sounds like capitulation. It also sounds like he does not understand that this is an ideological and not a political war. You are dealing with a zealous regime that literally believes a blind chic is going to come down and bring in the next Armageddon. They're twelve or Shia.

They are radicals.

So, you that's not how they don't operate and view things through the political. Context. It's all religious fanaticism.

So, I feel like if you don't even have that understanding, how are you going to come out as a successful negotiator? You've already lost in the prep. And that's basically ninety nine percent of the battle.

So why are we concerned about The sensitivities. of this. I've got a million questions.

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So the moo. It's the moo. I'm gonna call it that from now on. It's like that scene from that old clip from Friends with Joey. and he was arguing with Monica.

And he was like, well, that's just a moo point. Yeah. And she looks at him and she's like, what? And he goes, a moo point. And she says, a moo point?

He goes, yeah, a moo point. It's like a cow's opinion, it doesn't matter. Same thing. Smoo, M-O-U.

So The memorandum of understanding, which seems like a lack of understanding, it should be called a loo because we don't get it. And I don't even know, this was the thing that was linked leaked. to Bloomberg. They were the first entity to run with it. And What makes me think it's real is that some of the officials have said it is.

And the administration is arguing every point as though that's the point.

So that's why I think this one. is real. The official text, apparently, we have to wait until the close of news in the markets on Friday to get it, which does not inspire a lot of confidence, if I'm being honest. I mean, I just feel like if it was a real banger, They would have been like in your face, and it would have been out there everywhere. And they would have invited a bunch of crusty clinger-ons to the White House and given them binders of the moo.

And it would have been like a real big thing, you know? That's just me personally because. This president likes stunting on people. I'm just saying.

So I was looking at this, the Bloomberg version, and oh my gosh, I don't know where to start. I mentioned last hour that I think it's really weird. That you got Rubio, you got Wickhoff and Kushner that led negotiations. Rubio was helping to facilitate. And you've got POTUS at G7 with Rubio, and he's been taking questions this whole time.

We're monitoring it. If something pops up, we'll have it. But we have to unpack this stuff. and you have over here stateside. Of all the times to drop a book, Let's just do it now, right?

I mean, we have all of this instability. Why not drop a book right now? It's not like he's doing anything else.

So, Vance is on his book tour, and so either by design, Or Yeah. Coincidental, I don't believe in coincidences in politics, he's having to sell. He's selling this moo. Wiley's You know pitching his buck. It's very odd.

And he has not, as I said last hour, he has not risen to the occasion. At least in this dear Broadcaster's opinion. He has not risen to the occasion.

Now, again, once more, I will clarify because I know everyone gets like super tribal. I don't have a dog in the fight for 28. Because I don't care right now. I really just don't. I have four loads of laundry waiting for me after radio.

I don't care about anything right now. I just wear in the world.

So just say, and we have a hornet's nest somewhere. I gotta get that, deal with that too. Little inconsequential things.

So I don't have a dog in this. I'm just not focusing on that right now. I don't dislike anybody enough to disqualify them. I um I can find something objectionable. And something that I like about the people that have been breathed into this 28-contention existence.

Now, that being said, I don't think that Vance has risen to the occasion. I don't know whiskey tango foxtrot he is doing with some of these answers. I had this one real quick. Can we just real quick? Can I have number seven real fast once more?

This is what sensitivities? Why are we worrying about sensitivities of these third-world hellholes? Watch. Why can't they see? Why can't we all see the MOU right now?

Well, so first of all, the president said by the latest Friday, possibly as early as tomorrow, we're going to release the memorandum on understanding text. The reason why we haven't released it yet is there are some delicate diplomatic things going on where the Iranians, and not just the Iranians, but some of our mediators, the Pakistanis and the Qataris, have asked us to sequence this in the right way. Okay, let's full stop. Why are we taking any direction from the Qataris and the Pakistanis? Pakistan was, they were the people who threw the turd in the punch bowl the first time.

They shuck it out of their pants leg right into the punch bowl. And they decided, no, that's a visual. They decided that they were going to try to include Lebanon on behalf of Iran, which is goofy and stupid. And that's where Hezbollah is located, even though Tucker Katarlfin doesn't know where Hezbollah is. They've always been historically located in Lebanon.

But who? But They were the ones who immediately first decided to incorporate Lebanon into these discussions. Why is Qatar there? It doesn't make any sense. This is goofy.

And so, this was the other thing. Vance said this: this is Cut 11. This was the second thing. He said, Yes, Qatar and Pakistan asked us to sequence the rollout. Why are they involved in this?

Listen. Why Can't you or won't you release that document now? Yeah, so there's some diplomatic procedure at work here where the Qataris and the Pakistanis have been mediating this entire negotiation with the Iranians, and they've asked us effectively to sequence the way that we roll this out. I frankly don't understand it. We'd be happy to release the agreement today or something.

I would say we're going to sequence your mom. Yeah. That's what we're gonna do. Sequence Ds, stop it. That's what I would do.

I would have said that. What I would have done is I would have. I would have handed out little envelopes with a gold stamp on it like here it is gentlemen. This is how. and have like a big theater at the table.

This is fancy embossed envelopes. And then they can open them, and it says sequence D's. That's what I would do. Anyway. That that's goofy.

I feel like the I don't understand it is him trying to he saw he realizes how ridiculous it is and he's trying to recuse himself from this. That's not working because there's a lot of other stuff in here that I'm just like, what in the world? How he said that, yeah, people are going to send, we're going to, there are Republicans demanding hundreds of thousands of boots on the ground. That was a lie. Nobody said that.

Nobody demanded that. I don't understand why that is even being said. This is cut four. POTUS was asked about this because, speaking of the Lebanon aspect, if Hezbollah in southern Lebanon, which by the way, don't forget the United States had already mediated an agreement between Israel and Lebanon, that was back in April. Hezbollah keeps violating absolutely everything.

Lebanon doesn't like Hezbollah either. But here's the problem: Iran has pumped enough cash into Hezbollah that their military is pretty much almost on par, or their fighting forces are pretty much on par with the Lebanese military.

So that's a real thing to consider.

So, to the issue of Israel and Hezbollah, this is cut four. Really in the first week. Militarily we defeated Iran. Nobody thought that could be done. Yeah, please.

Mr. President, do you want Israel to halt its military campaigns? No, I want Israel to be able to protect themselves, but I do want them to use good judgment.

Okay, well yeah, use good judgment, okay. What does that mean? And he also mentioned the thing about knocking apartment buildings down, and I'm just wondering who's giving him these talking points. Whoever from the woke Reich is in his ear, his other staffers that have more than one brain cell to rub together, they need to get that person out of the orbit because he ends up going out there sounding like a low-info podcastie. And we can't have that.

He's the president of the United States, FFS. Come on.

So Looking at this MOU. The The first thing that stuck out when they talk about the Iran and the US with allies in the current war. They announced that they said they said include in here understanding an immediate and permanent end to the war on all fronts, including Lebanon.

So the United States isn't dealing with Lebanon, and it's very. And it's very uh the wording's sneaky. Because they're saying Lebanon when it's really Hezbollah in Lebanon. But they won't say Hezbollah in Lebanon because that makes you think, oh, well, they have the right to defend themselves against a terrorist group, a known terrorist entity, Hezbollah. No, no, no, they got to just say Lebanon.

So it makes people think that they're just attacking the sovereign country for no good reason. And you have all of these, again, like products of incest out there seal clapping at whatever the Qatari Fox News rejects say. Those people that are reacting to this, they believe that. The hook line and sinker.

So the problem with this is though, is it's an agreement that immediately drags Israel in as an unofficial cosineee when they haven't even been involved in any negotiations.

Now I would lose my mind if they did that to the United States, and I think everybody else would too.

So here's the thing: all of the people out there that are like, well, Israel controls everything in the United States. And then this happens. What are you guys gonna do now? Criticize the people that have been like, well, that seems pretty unfair. Where are you going to go?

You guys don't have any more runway. That plane didn't take off, Slick.

So Why in the world? And remember, they al we already mediated. And a ceasefire between Israel and Lebanon that required Hezbollah to disarm. We did this back in November of twenty four or two. I mean, this goes on and on and on.

And the other thing is, is the way that it's written. It says Israel has to really ultimately can't really defend itself, but Hezbollah can do whatever the hell it wants. That's a problem. That is a problem. The other issue Is when they say that Iran and the US are going to respect sovereignty and each other's territory, and they're not going to interfere in each other's internal affairs.

Okay, well, It's the interference. that Iran is taking in Lebanon.

So they're saying, well, you know, the presupposition is that it's the US that's doing all the interfering when the reality is that it's Iran that's interfering in Gaza with Hamas. It's Iran that's interfering in Lebanon with Hezbollah. It's Iran that's interfering in Yemen with the Houthis. It's Iran that's interfering everywhere and attacking its neighbors.

So that's a stupid point to have in here. They get in and say. That they're going to reach an agreement with a maximum period of 60 days, extendable by mutual consent.

Now, this is, if you're joining me, going over the Bloomberg, the leaked MOU to Bloomberg. That none of them have said isn't it. Two officials said it was. One official said, wait for the other one. It's not 14 points, it's 12.

So The they talk about lifting the naval blockade. preventing any interference or obstruction against the Islamic Republic of Iran, restore traffic, et cetera. Make sure that merchant ships from the Persian Gulf to the Sea of Oman and vice versa is resumed. Why Why? And they demand a full withdrawal.

The United States has to withdraw its forces from the surrounding areas within 30 days after the final agreement. Why would we do that if we would also? have to deal with the enforcement of said agreement. Do you realize how expensive it is? to haul everything back over there again.

Why would we do that? That's dumb. I don't understand this. They say that they want to create a comprehensive peace plan, and they want $300 billion. The implementation mechanism, part of the agreement to be formulated within 60 days, is for the rehabilitation and economic development of Iran.

What?

Now everyone keeps calling this the carrot. Oh, we have to offer a carrot. The IRGC needs to follow a carrot. Um okay, so The only thing that makes this different from the JCPOA is the nuclear dust.

So if we don't get the nuclear dust, Then my question is how is this deal different from Barack Obama's deal. That's a legitimate question. People could get mad about it all they want to, but if you're not asking that question, are you a patriot? Patriots ask questions to the benefit of their country.

So I I have a lot of questions.

So they want sanctions ended. Uh every sanction. All unilateral U.S. sanctions, both primary and secondary. And uh yeah, this is really crazy.

And then... Get that last cut that you just dropped. Get that ready for me.

So The 300 billion They say that they're not going to produce nuclear weapons in this. They say that they'll give up this pursuit. How many times has that happened?

Something like that. I don't know. Uh and it also sounds a little bit JCPOA-ish. which Trump hated, by the way. And I have a million video cuts of him railing on that thing.

I mean this This just keeps getting worse the more I read. Um The pending final agreement, they will mainstay.

Okay, Iran will maintain status quo in its nuclear program, and we won't impose new sanctions.

So, wait. They get to keep They can violate, basically, that's like a violation of JCPOA, then. But they don't get any other sanctions for it. I've got more on this because we have three other points to read.

So, bookmark this because we're going to come back to it. I have a lot of questions. Can I play this real fast?

Okay, I'll save it. I'll save it. Trump basically said, Yeah, if it doesn't work, I'm going to blame fans. He said that at G7. How much of your financial life exists as a number on a screen?

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And all of the people who could have helped them turned a blind eye because they did not want to be seen as racist because the people trafficking them were brown, and I am not even making that up. But what makes it worse? Is that The British government covered. it up. And they tried to just make the whole thing disappear.

Some of these stories. It's one hundred and eighty pages long. And the Inquiry looks at the systematic targeting from the report. of vulnerable girls. Overwhelmingly white British by predominantly Muslim Pakistani gangs across towns and cities throughout the UK.

Now here's the thing. This number that they give makes it. It's even greater than anyone could have ever imagined. In some cities like Rotherham, there were thousands of girls, and that's just one city where this happened. The report with witnesses and affidavits and police reports and everything.

It says, quote, the scale of the crimes committed is staggering. it was previously established that, at the very least, 253. thousand Young girls, white British girls, We were subjected to repeated, repeated rapes, gang rape, trafficking, torture, pregnancy, forced Islamic conversion, lifelong trauma. They said the true number is likely higher. The perpetrators bear a primary responsibility, and the institutional failures that enabled them for decades have to be confronted.

They said. That over 88% of those convicted in these group-based child sexual exploitation CSEs, what they call them, cases. have Muslim names. The vast majority of men were not convicted.

Now One doctor with the, he's Dr. Taj Harge. an imam with the Oxford Islamic Congregation. Says the true proportion of gang members who are Muslims are around 95%. That far exceeds the Muslim share of the overall United Kingdom population.

two hundred and fifty. thousand Young girls. You're talking about girls who were 11 years old. They would be befriended by a young Muslim guy who would then treat them like adults and start providing them with alcohol and drugs and cigarettes and things like that. And they said then they would have girls that would be picked up from the school gates And their care homes and off the street in taxis, and they were taken to houses and to flats and to restaurants and to hotels where they were raped repeatedly by groups of men, tortured, filmed for blackmail, told they were white trash or kafar who married punishment, who merited punishment.

Many. became pregnant while they were still children. Many miscarried under trauma, many endured coerced abortions, and some even gave birth to children who were later removed by the state.

Now Listen to this. They found With Absolutely irrefutable evidence. That these unspeakable crimes from this report occurred. In at least 149. local authority districts.

That's close to forty per cent of all such districts across the UK. Survivors described daily rapes, red rooms of extreme torture, trafficking between cities. Uh and uh they were even trafficked to the Middle East where they were forced into Islamic marriages. And then The report says that were Britain functioning effectively. These girls would have received.

considerable state protection. But every one of the institutions failed them catastrophically. Police forces ignored repeated reports, criminalized victims instead of perpetrators.

Some of that sidebar was Kier Starmer's approach. That's one of the reasons why he has such involvement in this. The report continues destroyed evidence. allowed Uh Known. I destroyed evidence, allowed known, I mean, they just allowed known people to go free.

Social care services undermine protective parents. Yeah, a lot of these known rapists walk free on bail.

Some of them just walk free without bail. They place children in trafficking hubs inside of children's homes. Closed cases despite clear indications of exploitation, and whistleblowers were retaliated against. NHS in Britain recorded genital injuries, multiple STDs in children. I mean, you're looking at like 9, 10, 11, 12.

I can't even, I'm just sick. Pregnancies caused by rape, suicide attempts. And victims were discharged back to their abusers without any safeguarding referrals and zero trauma care. Many schools observed older. Islamic men collecting girls at the gates.

And they responded. not with protecting the victims, but excluding them. Taxi licensing authorities renewed permits for drivers. They formed the logistical backbone of the networks. And they collapsed in the face of organized protests when basic safety measures were proposed.

Government officials. allowed this. They looked the other way. And There were members of Parliament who apparently knew and were complicit, and proceeded. The report really because apparently the Labor Party which runs a lot of stuff in a lot of these cities where it was happening.

It's interesting, Kane, how crime, like in the United States, is really high in Democrat-run cities, and this kind of stuff was really kicking off in the Labor Party, which is the far left. Those controlled cities. I know you're very shocked by this. Um I This is unbelievable. I don't know.

People were saying that this was. Uh quote, the most extensive and widespread scandal that has ever beset Britain. That's But they allowed for.

Some of these stories, for instance. They give this quote at the police station. They changed the names of the girls. Kate was taken into the interview room. Before the interview began, and without her mother present, she was told that this was her last chance to say that her report was untrue.

She was warned that if any part of her account could not be supported by evidence, she couldn't be arrested. For an extended period of time, both officers repeatedly told her how much trouble she would be in if any detail of her statement was disproved, and that she could withdraw the allegation before the interview started with no further consequences. They also suggested that her parents would be relieved if she said the incident had not happened. End quote. They were manipulating girls.

Into Basically not reporting or resending. Uh Their reports. their their their claims on the behavior. of this. I I mean I am just shocked.

I am just shocked. They this is I I this is crazy. And one of the reasons, by the way, One of the reasons why all of this went on for so many years. is because they literally were upset. About, I'm pulling up my notes on this, they were upset about being viewed as being racist for targeting.

predominantly Pakistani men. This is being called one of the biggest cover-up in British history.

Social workers were intimidated into silence. Local police ignored and excused.

So there's a lot of stories on this. Here's a piece from the Telegraph: The Free Press has written about this, The Telegraph has this. Um Daily Mail. And Daily Mail is a story about how police took, and this was in Rotherham specifically. how police were essentially helping These uh criminals evade law and accountability for those.

I mean, I how do you how do these people look at look at themselves in the mirror? This is stunning. They aided and abetted them. Across dozens of cities. Senior police and Home Office officials, says one report, deliberately avoided action in the name of maintaining community relations.

They did not want to be viewed as being racists. Local counselors, they all rejected pleas for help from the parents of raped children, charities, NGOs, labor MPs. Because they wanted to Say that multiculturalism was a success. That was more important to them than protecting the children. That was more important to these British authorities than protecting the British citizens.

They wanted to be able to protect this failed. Multiculturalism. They did not want to be called Islamophobic or racist. They valued that more. than the innocence of these children.

And the crazy thing is, nobody even knows exactly how many of these girls. Fell victim to this because this has been going on since the late 70s. Hundreds of thousands. They don't even know. But they do know that.

it really kicked off in these post-industrial mill towns.

So it was on like the north and the the north in England and in the Midlands. And that's where a lot of these that's where a lot of the Pakistani diaspora settled. And all of the the locals say all of the gangs and the grooming started happening when that when that when they came in. And in Rotherham, local police and counselors were told about this in 2001. Do you know that they did not even start legal proceedings?

without pressure from the community until 2010. And everyone that was jailed. were Pakistani. Every single person that was convicted. And the girls were like nine, ten.

One was twelve. That's it. They targeted the poor and the fatherless girls, the girls and care homes. That's what this happened, and it was in over 50 cities around England. There The fact that the entire country is not burning.

In riots? is an act of God. Because their law, their government structure. Actually, worked against the people trying to bring the perpetrators to justice. They covered it up.

They suppressed research on grooming gangs. That was Johnson's home office in 2020, Boris Johnson. He said that the money that was spent on investigating abuse crimes, they said that it was money that they were, I'm not going to say how he put it. Uh but that they were apparently not before They were not using the money for this. And when his home office in 2020 came out with their research on these grooming gangs, all the other people in the government were suppressing it.

They said that it was quote not in the national interest. We have more on this. That's just uh that's That is heinous. Why are more lawmakers over there not speaking out? That's a generation of girls.

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So, James, I mean, I know that we're essentially until the White House comes out, here's the MOU. We're all kind of speculating and kind of reacting to some of these leaks. But what we do know is what the Vice President has affirmed in his numerous hits that he's done over the past few days and what the President has said at G7 today. What's your initial take on this? You know, nobody knows what's going on, and that's sort of fun.

But I'm kind of starting, I'm trying to be generous and optimistic. I'm starting with the axiom I keep hearing is the axiom of the White House, which is President Trump is smarter than you. And that means he's also smarter than you think he is. And so it's very likely that he's arranged this deal and whatever else is going on in a way that he thinks is going to be advantageous. It takes advantage of a lot of things on the table, like, for example, the actual regional conditions in the Middle East, but also the condition of the growing tension in the conservative base with J.D.

Vance. He said today at G7, apparently, I keep laughing every time I hear it. He said something to the effect of if this deal works out, I'm going to take the credit. If it doesn't, I'm going to blame J.D. Vance.

And then he says, you better watch out, JD. And so. I mean, it seems very much like part of what's going on in this confusion, while maybe it's not the most ethical thing in the world for the White House to be doing, is to put J.D. on a hanger, actually, out in front of the American people and connect him to this deal. I mean, Marco Rubio is nowhere to be seen.

President Trump is busy at G7 and is making what seems to be bizarre statements. It's hard to... parse for sure what's going on, but there's a lot of skepticism of J.D. Vance, and a lot of people think this is actually his deal. And it seems the president's ready to give him the credit if it goes badly.

And that's what's so weird about this, because we've been talking about this, and I know you've had a series of posts on X about it. This is a weird way to, I guess, get, I guess they were trying to get ahead of the Iranian claims, and instead of having like a Besant or a Witcoff. Or Rubio, and I understand that they're with the president at G7. It's just weird to see Vance, especially when everyone knows that they disagree on Iran, they disagree on the approach. Vance has a huge, very well-documented history of not agreeing with Trump on foreign policy, anything.

And so it's weird to see him be the guy go out and try to sell the thing that he never liked in the first place. Also, James, while he's selling a book that he wrote about how he became Catholic, it's just the weirdest timing ever. Yeah, it's very strange. And of course, you know, JD didn't do himself any favors. I think he was talking with Megan Kelly and he said something to the effect of, you know, that we had certain Muslim and Islamic sensibilities we had to safeguard, which is a big, big difference from, you know, I really don't care, Margaret JD, that everybody loved a couple of years ago.

And so, you know, I'm an American. I don't give a flying crap about Islamic sensibilities in Pakistan.

So why J.D. Vance is, you know, saying this is what we had to honor to throw the American and Israeli populations into confusion and disarray just kind of works out badly for him, which increases my suspicion that the president is kind of putting JD in an awkward situation on purpose here because of probably these disagreements and what it's causing in the conservative base. I mean, this has become a very obvious issue in the past maybe six to nine months. And I think the president's putting it in high relief.

So let's segue into that because I have, we're talking with James Lindsay, aka Conceptual James. on X. I have, I guess, ten foil theories. I'm just speculating. I'm putting everything on the table.

You know exactly where I'm going with this because you and I have talked about the Red Green Alliance before, and we've talked about the woke Reich and all of this. And I don't know if that I would say that Vance is a woke Reicher, but he's definitely friends with all the people that are in it. And he goes on their shows and he says that they're his favorite podcasts. And so I have questions about that, especially in the context of this whole deal.

So to that extent, You said that maybe POTUS is putting him out there and he can take the blame if this fails. Is this POTUS maybe perhaps seeing the tactic of having to destroy him and his legacy because that is one of the goals of the woke Reich so that they can prepare the way for someone to ascend in 28? Do you view that potentially as him getting in front of that with this move? It's plausible, and it's a very Trump way to do it. And again, we go back to the White House axiom that I hear from all of my White House friends: Trump is smarter than you.

And that applies also to the vice president, I think. And so it's entirely plausible that that is what's going on. But I'm with you. This is all like tinfoil hat speculation. This is, you know, nobody knows what's going on.

And I think the president, if he wanted us to know what's going on, would have done so.

So we don't know what's going on because it's in his strategic interests to use this confusion. And this could work in the domestic front, as we're discussing now. It also works regionally in the Middle East because he's not just talking to us. He's talking to Saudi Arabia. He's talking to Qatar.

He's talking to Oman and the UAE. And I don't mean like he's making deals with them. I mean he's trying to also scare the crap out of them because Iran is an unstable partner. The things we see that we're nervous about in this MOU, they are also nervous about because Iran is not. Iran has not been a good player in the region.

So when he's out there today at G7 saying, well, of course they need missiles. Everybody has missiles. Saudi Arabia has missiles. They need missiles too. Saudi Arabia is like, oh no.

Oh no, we're not going to get cleared of Iranian missiles. Where are they going to get their security?

Well, they're going to have to become more dependent on Israeli and U.S. security forces in order to create the sense of security that they need. All of the Gulf states are going to need that.

So, therefore, the president might be playing a very savvy game with this kind of mass confusion to try to get the Gulf states to increase their dependency on U.S. and Israeli partnership for security in the region, which actually would be like the real terms of the real deal, knowing Iran's going to default eventually, probably before the end of the week. Yeah, and I think that's what it all comes down to at this very center of this is knowing that Iran has never honored any agreement ever. Why would this be any different? Can we get that soundbite too that James just mentioned, where POTUS was saying, well, they can have a little bit of missiles, they can have a couple missiles, which That's what they've been using to go after American troops and going after our interests.

Let me know when we have that. Which, again, I understand what you were saying about the Saudis. For our listeners and viewers, watch this.

So we'll be working on a parallel effort with the Gulf nations to address non-nuclear issues such as the conventional ballistic missiles, which we'll be talking about. And support. I mean, they have to have some because other people have some. You gotta have some.

Somebody said you shouldn't give them more. I mean, I have guys, I like some of these guys. But I don't think they're I don't think they're smart. Sir, you shouldn't let them have any missile. I said, well, what am I going to do?

Am I going to let Saudi Arabia have missiles, but they can't have them? Yes, sir. Does it work that way?

Well, why, okay, so here's where I'm interjecting. James, why can't it work that way? I mean, we're the nation's superpower. And when you're the superpower of the nation, and thank heavens we love freedom, you get to make the rules. And I just kind of feel like we can say that, and everyone else needs to fall in line or else.

Your thoughts? I mean, that's very much the way Trump has been talking up to this point, which makes me think that this is some game he's playing. And then there's kind of two things on the table. One is the idea of a future Iran that's playing by all the rules and is being a good player in the region that nobody believes is going to exist without there being a different regime in charge that's not the Islamic regime. But then, secondly, like he specifically mentioned Saudi Arabia, right?

He's putting these. These Gulf nations on notice. He's saying, look, your security, you don't just get to run the rule, the roost here. Like, he knows these guys are double talkers. He understands the con.

There's no way he doesn't understand Takia and the slimy art of the deal that these guys have been playing for 50 years. And it's entirely plausible. I don't know for sure. We're just speculating, but it's entirely plausible that this is a very risky strategic maneuver to increase Gulf dependency on Israel, which they're going to be pragmatically willing to do, but not really excited about given the Muslim-Jewish thing. And then also on the United States.

And if we can create security partnerships with those Gulf states, it changes the regional calculation completely. And getting that security partnership locked down has been elusive for 50 plus years. And this might be a calculated, risky maneuver to try to leverage those countries into playing that game. The other theory, too, is that this is kind of a soft. Audition.

for Vance for the Presidency? If so, how do you think he's performed thus far? I mean, most of what I, X is not real life, but most of what I see on social media is very strongly never, ever, ever, ever Vance.

So it does not look like he's performed very well. When he came out and said that, you know, well, I don't even understand them, but we have to kowtow to these, you know. Islamic and Muslim sensibilities. I think he lost a lot of people when he even agreed to go on. Megan Kelly, which reportedly the president said, I think that's a great idea.

It feels very much like he lost a lot of people. Like there should be a hard line, given some of the things that Megan Kelly has been promoting and doing to undermine Trump and his administration in the past several months.

So. It doesn't look like he's played this Situation very well. He has done some reasonably good representation of what's supposed to be in the deal in the U.S. interests. Of course, JD's a smart guy.

He speaks well. But at the same time, it overall has not played very well, at least not with the American conservative base that I'm familiar with. Yeah, well, we're going to watch and see what happens on Friday. Although, I mean, it could come out this evening, it could come out tomorrow. But I'm going to be very suspicious, James, if it's definitely after the news cycle and definitely after markets close.

To me, that's going to signal that this is not the banger that we were all told it was going to be. James Lindsay, you can find him at New Discourses. Always a pleasure to have you on. Appreciate your perspective. Thank you.

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You know that one audio bit that James Lindsay that we spoke to just last segment, by the way, if you missed with him, you can go back to the podcast and get it and catch it. That's where all the archives are. This is what we were talking about when he went out and said, Yeah, if it doesn't work, it's fans. Listen. This way, if it works out, I'm going to take the credit.

If it doesn't work out, I'm blaming JD. You better be careful, J.D. He's going to turn his plane around and get the hell out of here. Yeah, I like that idea. I think it's a good idea.

It's funny. I think that's funny. It's funny. It is. It just is.

But I do think that that's, you know, again, we're just speculating. But I don't like The ability as he was saying. For Iran to maintain Missiles, this is just weird. Why are we doing this? That actually is different from any US policy that we've had previously.

And then What about the money with the that the the unfrozen funds.

So for instance I was reading At least what was leaked. And notice how nobody said that this isn't it yet, that these aren't, they just said that it's not the official. M-O-U, but At the same time, if it's not, it's not the official MOU, however. They're not saying that these aren't the official points, right? There's a difference.

So in it it says such funds, whether retained in the original account or transferred. shall be made fully usable for payment to any ultimate beneficiary designated by the Central Bank of the Islamic Republic of Iran. The United States of America undertakes to issue all issue all necessary licenses and authorizations accordingly. Ah Okay. Does that mean that they can t spend money on terror proxies?

Hezbollah, Hamas, and the Houthis. Because that's what it sounds like, without the ability to prevent that from happening under the current ter under if that's the structure of the deal under those terms, how do you prevent that money from going to those terror proxies? That was one of the original caveats that we were demanding.

So if that's not included, then that would be a concession on our part and a pretty significant concession. The only thing I've heard in line with that was when he talked about Iran being able to like the money itself. Um nothing happens, obviously, until they actually fulfill their end of the agreement. Um, so you know, like you said, we're all just speculating right now. I mean, I we are, but it's like, you know, people are going to speculate if you don't release the damn terms.

Why the hell is this so hard? I mean, you can't sit here and expect people to go, well, I guess we just won't talk about it then. It's stupid. No, we're going to talk about it. Hello, this is America.

We talk about everything here. Good night. I mean I'm just saying. It just sounds sounds a little odd to me. It sounds odd.

And I see people saying, well, you know, there's fake information. I saw some people saying, well, this is to talk about this is a hoax. Stop saying hoax inaccurately. You can get a dictionary. That is not how you use that word.

Mm. You just say that that's not correct information, but no one will say that. That's the thing. All of this stuff that's leaking. And here's the other thing: if they're not ready to release it, first off, I understand wanting to get ahead of Iran, but they should have come out and said, you know what, this is all BS, and we're going to release the accurate deal when we're ready to release it.

They should have just unequivocally said it, but they didn't go out and say that, which made everyone think, Oh, well, okay, is this it? And now with the stuff that the VP is saying and even POTUS is saying, we're all out there going, Well, hell, that kind of sounds like it's pretty damn close to What? What that would be if you're defending it. And again, you can say that, okay, well, this isn't the structure of the understanding, that's fine. But That's different from the points within.

You can have the points are accurate. But the deal, that's not the whole deal. You can say that. I mean, I kind of feel like that's what's happening here. I don't know.

Tomorrow we're going to talk about Holulu Lemonhead apologized for using a Japanese drum at the Great Wall of China yoga event. I know. Great stuff.

Alright, Kane. Today's stupidity. That hurts. Much like this cut. Number 13 from Connecticut.

Do you ever pronounce it that way? I always pronounce it that way.

Sounds like Gal Sharpton pronunciation. Connecticut. Rhetoric. Chris Murphy is talking about Iran. He's hoping they win.

Listen to this. Listen to this. It does bear repeating that none of Donald Trump's objectives have been achieved. And they're not even close to being achieved. Reportedly, Iran still has 70% of their missiles after a $60 billion bombing campaign.

The Ayatollah is gone. But the regime now is more radical and more capable. What?

The regime has proved that they can take America's best shot and survive. They have proved that they can control. Is he a cheerleader for Iran? What's he doing? What is he doing?

Million-dollar question. That does it for us today, guys. Find us on Substack, YouTube, Facebook, like and subscribe. Chapter in Verse on Substack and the podcast. Have a great night.

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