Tony Beam Guest Hosts for Dr. Brown

It's time for the line of fire with your host, activist, author, international speaker, and theologian, Dr. Michael Brown, your voice of moral, cultural, and spiritual revolution. Michael Brown is the director of the Coalition of Conscience and President of Fire School of Ministry. Get into the line of fire now by calling 866-34-TRUTH. That's 866-34-TRUTH.

Here again is Dr. Michael Brown. All right, good afternoon, everybody. This is obviously not Dr. Michael Brown.

If you listen to his program regularly, you will say, wait a minute, I don't recognize that voice. This is Tony Beam sitting in for Dr. Brown today. It's an honor for me to be here. I was so excited when he asked me.

I actually co-hosted with Alex McFarland back before Christmas and then received an invitation to come in and sit in for Dr. Brown today. So it's great to be with you this afternoon. I am the Vice President for Student Life and Christian Worldview at North Greenville University. North Greenville is a four-year Christian liberal arts university in the northern part of Greenville County in South Carolina.

And we have a full graduate school with all kinds of graduate degrees, doctorate programs. We have a PA program. But our primary focus is that we're training young men and women to go out into the world after college, after they come through the university, with a decidedly Christian worldview. Look forward. I love students.

As Vice President for Student Life, I have the opportunity to deal with a lot of students every day. And I tell you what, when you're an old guy like me, it makes you feel young and it gives you a great reason to get out of bed every day.

So my thanks again to Dr. Michael Brown. He is away today, and we're going to do our best to uphold the high standard that he always has for this radio program line of fire. All right.

Well, let's see what's going on today. What could we possibly talk? Oh, oh, wait a minute. They're having the inauguration. I almost forgot.

You know, what a day to have an opportunity to have this microphone and to sit in this chair because it is truly a day of history in the sense that we just inaugurated a man for President of the United States, the most powerful person in the world, the most powerful office in the world. and he's never held a public office in his life.

Now, stop and think about that for a second. You want to talk about making history. Donald J. Trump, billionaire businessman, decides to run for president. Everybody thinks it's a joke.

The media makes fun of him. The pundits make fun of him. The establishment makes fun of him. Republicans, Democrats, right, left, progressives, secular progressives, everybody makes fun of this guy and says, he's going to be in it for a little while, then he'll fade away. Wow, were they ever wrong?

And I'm going to tell you up front, I put myself in that category. I did not think this day would come when Donald Trump came down that escalator and stood up to that microphone in July, what was it, July two years, well, over a year ago now, in July of 2015, when he announced that he was going to run for President of the United States, I really thought that his candidacy would be short-lived. He proved everybody wrong. He got in the race. People said, well, he won't be in long.

He said things that were outrageous, and every time he said something outrageous, people said, That's it. They wrote him off. Watch the poll numbers. They're going to start to crash. Every single time the poll numbers began to climb.

Donald Trump was able to do something that I haven't seen a politician do in my lifetime other than Ronald Reagan. He was able to tap into something that was out there within the American people and capture their imaginations, capture their hearts. He captured their dreams. He was able to cause people to want to have hope again after eight years of the Obama administration. And he defeated 16 different candidates, 16 or 17 Republican contenders, all of whom would have been honestly excellent choices for president, but they were all they all had one thing in common that the American people were no longer interested in.

They were part of Washington. They were part of the establishment. They were part of something that people had come to distrust about a city and a government that was overblown and overburdening their lives every day. And Donald Trump was able to overcome every bit of that. And we're going to talk about it.

We're going to play some excerpts from the inauguration speech. And we're going to have some special guests today as well in the line of fire. Thanks for listening today. We'll be back. God of light, hear our cry, send us fire.

It's the line of fire with your host, Dr. Michael Brown, your voice of moral, cultural, and spiritual revolution. Here again is Dr. Michael Brown. Welcome back to the line of fire.

This is Tony Beam setting in for Dr. Michael Brown today. I'm Vice President for a Student Life and Christian Worldview at North Greenville University. If you'd like to know more about North Greenville University, we'd be glad to send you some information, let you know what's up with the university. You can email me at tbeam at ngu.edu, and that's probably the best way to get in touch to get information about North Greenville.

We have apologetics teams that go out, young people who go into churches and different groups that defend the faith and do really what Dr. Michael Brown does on this radio program every day. And what I do every morning from 7 to 9, Monday through Friday, on my radio program here in the upstate of North Carolina, South Carolina, excuse me. I just switched dates on you. But in any event, if you'd like to get in touch with me, T-beam at ngu.edu.

We were talking about the inauguration, and throughout the program today, we're going to continue to sort of dissect the rise of Donald Trump. We're going to have a special guest today. Tony Robbins is going to join us in the 3 o'clock hour. Tony is the, he's actually a retired federal officer, and I want to talk to him about what the Obama administration has done for law enforcement in America and why the relationship between law enforcement and the Obama administration was so strained. And we're also going to talk about going forward what Tony sees as far as a Trump administration and working with Attorney General Jeff Sessions as opposed to working with Loretta Lynch or Eric Holder.

So we'll have that conversation with Tony Robbins. We're going to be talking to Chad Conley in the next segment. He is actually at the inauguration. We'll be speaking with him. He's out on the street watching the parade.

And so we'll get a first-hand account of what's happening at the inauguration with Chad Conley.

Now, Chad served. At the RNC level during the campaign, he was actually in charge of Christian outreach for the Republican National Committee. Chad traveled all over the country and is partially responsible for the tremendous outpouring of evangelical support that Donald Trump enjoyed. And those of you, I'm sure, have heard Dr. Brown talk about this and others who do radio and public commentary.

Evangelicals made up about 81% of evangelicals voted for Donald Trump. That's voting in historic numbers for Donald Trump. And that is, for a lot of people, quite surprising. Donald Trump is not the guy that you would think would engender so much support from evangelicals. But a combination of factors, I believe, has led to this.

And I want to talk about that for just a few minutes. What was it that caused evangelicals to flock to Donald Trump? I think part of it, a big part of it, was the fear. of what a Hillary Clinton presidency would look like. You know, it was, I guess, four years ago at the Democrat National Convention in Charlotte, North Carolina, where progressives actually booed the mention of God and the mention of Israel.

And there was tremendous pushback at that convention. And I think a lot of evangelicals realized that lines were being drawn between progressives, secular progressives, and those of us who believe in God, who hold to a traditional understanding of the role of religion in America, who were concerned about religious freedom. We were concerned that our freedom to worship God and to speak about God in the public arena, those freedoms were going to be taken away by a Hillary Clinton administration, or at least not respected. You know, one of the things the Obama administration did. and did very effectively, by the way, to our detriment, is he changed the topic of religious freedom from freedom of religion to freedom of worship.

And that was a very important moment because when President Obama began to talk about freedom of worship, what he was really talking about was what we do inside the church. And that it's okay for us to do, we can worship inside the walls of the church any way we please. But the question is: what kind of freedom do we have as believers in Jesus Christ to step forward into the public arena and to be part of a national discussion, to be able to talk about our relationship with God, to be able to live out our Christian lives in a way that expresses our faith in public, that we don't have to hide it? And a lot of people were concerned about that. And I think that that fear of where Hillary Clinton would go in a Clinton administration with our religious freedom drove a lot of evangelicals to support Donald Trump.

Another issue, of course, that was big among evangelicals was the Supreme Court nomination. Obviously, President Trump now is going to have an opportunity to appoint one Supreme Court justice that we know of, but considering the age of the Supreme Court justices, there are several other positions that could be vacated either by one. One of the justices passing away or through retirement, that that could happen under a Trump administration. And so the court, the Supreme Court, has become the supreme arbiter in our country for right and wrong.

Now, I don't think the framers of the Constitution actually meant for it to be that way. I don't think they envision the government to be set up as the legislative branch, the executive branch, and the judiciary branch, with the judiciary branch having absolute power. But that's what's evolved. That's what's happened. And that essentially happened in the 20th century as the court and court rulings became more prominent and the legislative branch demonstrated a reluctance to push back against a Supreme Court that rules supremely in our culture and within government.

So the Supreme Court nomination became critical. And of course, we had we were concerned anybody that Hillary Clinton would nominate would tip the court. When Antonin Scalia, who was a great conservative scholar, a constitutional scholar, someone who was an originalist, he believed that the Constitution means what it says, that we should follow it. When he passed away, it left an incredible void and opened up the possibility that the court would swing to the left politically for years to come if President Clinton had the opportunity to make that all-important appointment. We've had 5-4 decisions.

The Oglethorpe decision was a 5-4 decision in favor of same-sex marriage. And there was a lot of concern among evangelicals about who was going to fill that Supreme Court seat. And I think when you put those things together, The concern over religious freedom, the concern over what a Clinton presidency would be, that that caused evangelicals to turn to Donald Trump because they believed that he could win. I think most evangelicals were willing to admit that Trump was not the typical candidate that evangelicals would rally behind. He's not a particularly religious man.

Now, he's surrounded himself with people who have a very deep and abiding faith. I believe Mike Pence, as his vice president, is a person who loves God and that God is very important in his life. And I believe that Pence's influence in a Trump administration is going to be very important. When you look at the people that President Trump has nominated, and hopefully eventually the Democrats will get out of the way and allow these people to get a confirmation vote. But you look at Jeff Sessions, Jeff Sessions is one of the most devout Christians in the United States Senate.

You have, of course, Dr. Ben Carson. Who ran for president and was a person who was very willing to express his faith. I actually was able to be with Dr. Carson a year ago at the Taylor's Free Medical Clinic banquet here in Greenville, South Carolina.

They were raising money, and Dr. Carson was the guest speaker. He was an amazing testimony. When you hear his entire testimony of his life, it's incredibly powerful. And I believe he's going to make a difference at HUD.

I believe that his experience coming up in the neighborhoods that he grew up in is going to be transfer and urban development better, particularly in the inner cities.

So, Donald Trump, not particularly religious, not particularly one person known for having a strong faith in God or to be able to talk about his faith, but evangelicals have rallied around him because he has demonstrated that he's pro-life. He's demonstrated that he's willing to appoint some.

Someone to the Supreme Court that's going to cause the court to be much more constitutionally focused in their decisions. He's someone who has pledged to protect religious liberty. He's pledged to reverse the laws that put a muzzle on Christian pastors when they try to talk about things that are political from the pulpit.

So, for all of these reasons, I believe Trump garnered the amount of evangelical support.

Now, we're going to have to see Trump himself when it comes to another issue that is very important, I think, to evangelicals, at least it's very important to me, is this issue of marriage and the fact that same-sex marriage is now the law of the land. We're now facing, at North Greenville University, for example, we're a Christian private university, and we're facing government, the possibility that the government would cut our financial aid, our federal financial aid, if we don't embrace transgender ideas at our university. We actually have one of the universities that have been given a grant or a pardon or a we've been set free from Title IX requirements right now because we've been historically Christian. But the protection of that, we don't know how long that's going to last if the government becomes aggressive pushing a transgender agenda. And Trump on 60 Minutes, you know, after he was elected president, basically said that same-sex marriage is now the law of the land, it's been decided by the Supreme Court, and we've got to all move on.

That could be a real challenge for Christians and their support of Donald Trump going forward. We'll just have to see what happens now that he's President Trump. We're gonna take a quick break and we'll be back with more. In the line of fire, Dr. Michael Brown.

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Here again is Dr. Michael Brown. All right, this is Tony Beam setting in for Dr. Michael Brown on the line of fire. It's a great pleasure to be with you this afternoon.

We're going to speak with Chad Conley, who was just recently for the RNC, the National Director of Faith Engagement. But before we do that, let's talk to Lisa, who is in Baltimore. She says that our focus needs to be on God. Lisa, thanks for listening. Thank you so much for having me.

You know, I I thank you so much for the explanation you give of why Evangelicals voted for Donald Trump because I really didn't know why. I couldn't figure it out because Sometimes he thought his mouth was so vulgar and different things that came out of his mouth, but Um, I just want to give God the praise because he's A lot of people are not allowed to witness this. And a lot of people, even myself, said that he wouldn't win, he would stay away. And this is just, you know, a perfect that he's putting up to prove that he could do it. But he ran and he won, and we just have to say, you know what?

This is our president, and as much as a lot of people don't like it, even myself, I really don't like the choice. I wish it was someone even mister Penn. You know, Christ went to their sense. If it was him, I would be more in support because he's not so vulgar and, you know, out of control at times. But This is what we have to work with.

So what we got to do as Christians If Focus on God and support Him with prayer, and hope that He makes the right choices for American citizens. and hope that whatever these choices he made, it's not self-interest. but for all Americans and you know, the hatefulness has to stop and we have to just Be in love and in oneness as Christians. Lisa, that's a, Lisa, I want to thank you for your call. I really appreciate that.

That's some very wise, godly counsel that you're actually giving. Yes, I had my reservations about Donald Trump. I still have some reservations. I'm not one who thinks that the way that he communicates it often, it's very inappropriate in my mind. I agree with you.

I think Vice President Pence is a very godly man. And I'm praying, along with you, Lisa, that his influence, that Mike Pence's influence is going to be strong in President Trump's life and that those he surrounded himself with, and he surrounded himself, as I pointed out, with many evangelical Christians, that they're going to have that kind of influence, and he's going to listen for God's voice. But we need to join together in praying. God bless you, Lisa. Thanks for the call from Baltimore.

Let's go to Chad Conley. Chad and I have been good friends for about 25 years. Man, Chad, we're getting old. Anyway, somebody is. One of us.

And it ain't. Ain't me, pal. I'm just telling you. Chad's in Washington. He's up there for the inauguration.

He's out on the street.

So Chad served as the National Director of Faith Engagement for the RNC. And by the way, congratulations, my friend. 81% of evangelical support. That's a record, and that has to be partly due to the efforts that you put in.

Well, thank you, Tony. And yeah, we've been friends a long time, and I appreciate you. Man, I appreciate your platform and constantly preaching the truth and telling people the truth about Jesus and really about the truth of America and God's role in our country. And, man, I'm just honored to play a part. You know, I've got Dana and all the kids here, and we figured, you know, treat them.

They really paid a heavy price. I was gone 164 nights this year, Tony. And so I thought I'd bring Dana and CJ and Leah and Bennett in summer up here.

So we stood out on the Capitol grounds, and you know, it was just really emotional. You don't get to see this that often. How many times did Mr. Trump invoke God? And the prayers were, you know, Christ-centered and just the patriotic return to America first ideals.

It was really special. And yeah, you know, I told very few people, you're one of them, that my secret goal was a set of records. I knew it wouldn't be because of me or certainly not because of the RC alone, but I knew if the party would ever acknowledge the biggest part of their vote was from the faith, the Christian vote, then. Would create a lot of synergy, and you know, I think that's what happened. Is I think a lot of ministries, a lot of groups.

really saw that the party figured out the Christian vote's the most important, probably the most underappreciated vote on the conservative side. And so I was really, I've just been honored to be a part of that, man. Chad, let me ask you, we're getting media response, of course, already coming in and by the bucket full here from the inaugural address. And a lot of the pundits are, you know, it's amazing that everybody knows exactly what Donald Trump has to say. And all the prophets were saying, even last night, well, what he has to do is sound a message of unity.

So now the pundits are saying, and you probably haven't seen a lot of this yet being up there, but the pundits are saying that his speech was actually nationalistic, and some have hearkened back to Hitler in the family in the sense that it was pushing a nationalism that isn't healthy. And what was your response to his? I mean, I'm sure that you didn't have that kind of response at all. Man, we were standing in the crowd. I'm reminded, you know, I've read every book I have to read about Reagan, and there was a place that I saw Ed Rollins speak, and he wrote about it in his book, too.

And it reminds me of how Trump's doing because Rollins was in the limo riding with Reagan in the streets of D.C. before his re-elect in 84. And he was showing him all the editorial boards: the Los Angeles Times, and the Washington Post, and the New York Times. And Mr. President, none of them are endorsing you.

They don't like you, Mr. President. And he's waving out the window, and he's kind of oblivious to what Ed Rollins is saying. He says, Ed. I don't care about those newspaper people.

Those people out there on the street, they like me. I think that's what Trump's experienced. Because I'm telling you, the crowd loved his talk. When Schumer droned on and on, people were like, oh, you know, kind of booing and everything. Trump talked about loving America.

He talked about putting America first. He talked about not leaving anybody out, not forgetting anybody. The forgotten man, the forgotten woman is over. I thought it was a great speech. I knew the opponents would can it, the so-called experts, those are the same people who said he couldn't win.

Those are the same people who said the day of Republicans and conservatism is over. The day of the Christian influence is over. You know, how many times have I combated that in the 40 states I went to in the last three and a half years and speaking to 80,000 pastors?

Well, you know, the media says we don't have the same influence anymore. We're a dwindling number. I believe the left and the media have worked really hard to discourage us. And, you know, let's face it, that's what the enemy does anyway. If they can discourage us and make us put our heads down, they kind of win without having to go into the battle.

So I don't listen to those people. How many of the people out here on the streets are loving this and they're excited about a new day in America?

Well, it's obvious that the people in America that heard the message of Donald Trump, I made the comment at the beginning of the program today, Chad, that not since Ronald Reagan has there been a leader who's connected with the man or the woman on the street like Donald Trump has. And you know, Reagan, what's interesting, Chad, it's the technology changes, but the methodology often doesn't. Because Reagan went around the national media straight to the American people through the medium of television. And Donald Trump is now, President Trump has gone around the media through the medium of Twitter and social media. But the result is the same: connecting with the man and the woman on the street.

That's exactly right. He's figured out that the Twitterverse is bigger than ABC, NBC, CBS, and CNN and MSNBC combined. And so while it may seem undisciplined to some people, he recognizes the only way to get his agenda passed is without the media's filter. He's right. They're dishonest.

They're sold out. You know, I can tell you stories of the friends of mine who were the token conservative on some of the networks on the election night. And one of them in particular, and I'll keep his name private, but he texted me during the night. It was like 10:30 or so. And it was at one of the major networks, one of the Alphabet Soups.

Chad, hold that. Chad, I need you to hold that thought for me, Chad, and I want to hold you over the break. We got to take a quick break here. And then when we come back, I want to hear the rest of that story. And then I want to ask you a question about the protesters.

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It's an honor to be here in his place. He is out traveling today, so I'm very grateful to have this opportunity. We're talking with Chad Conley, he's the former National Director of Faith Engagement for the RNC. And Chad was in the middle of telling me a story about some of the conservatives actually that kind of went after him while he was out on talking to people about getting engaged in this election process as people of faith. Chad, you still there, my friend?

Yeah, I'm here, brother, and uh sorry to hit that hard deadline, but so my buddy is on this national network and it's election night, and he's texting me as this is going on, and one of the executives comes down from the tower into the studio and he says, You pundits, you guys here, you experts, need to stop looking like your puppy dog got run over. Mr. Trump's going to win this. And so, my buddy, who's the token conservative, is texted me going, even the executives in this TV world recognize that the talking heads aren't connecting to the people out there.

So, I think there's something going on. People are sick of it. They're sick of the out-of-control spending. They're sick of the government intrusion. They're sick of being told what doctor they're going to use and how their insurance works.

They're sick of not having choices. Our folks are sick and tired of hearing about abortion. They're sick and tired of this redefinition of things by the judges. They're tired of Israel being abandoned and betrayed by our nation. First time in American history, probably.

I think they're just ready for something new, and I think that's why Trump's resonated. Absolutely. I couldn't agree with you more. He connected with people. And you know what's interesting about this, Chad?

What you've seen is a transfer of support. You know, the Democrat Party traditionally has been the party of the blue-collar worker. And that's why they. called what was in Wisconsin and Michigan and Pennsylvania and these other states the blue wall, Ohio. And the blue wall crumbled because blue-collar workers have seen eight years of policies that have left them behind.

And that's why when Donald Trump in his inauguration address today said that he was going to turn the country back to the people, I think all over this country, people really resonated with that. There's no question about it. In the murmur in the crowd, people get it. You could tell that probably a lot of those people that were there, even around us today, might not have been traditional conservatives, Republicans, but they realize that I think people are starting to recognize in a bigger sense too, Tony, that liberal policies of we're going to take care of you and government knows best. Those things are gone.

They don't work. People are going to start looking for results instead of platitudes. And, you know, hey, we're going to take care of you, sit in the corner and play dumb, sending your taxes, but you don't really know what's best for you. And for somebody to come in and say, you know what's better to do with your money, you know the best use of it, you know what's best for choosing your doctor, you know what's best instead of government, I think that really connects with people in a way that, like you said, it's probably been a long time, maybe since Reagan, that somebody's had that kind of real connection to people out here. And I mean, I'm on the streets.

We're walking over to Heritage Foundation now to go to their reception and just went by the RC. And, you know, I'm still talking about what we're going to do now. Are there protesters? Are you seeing any of these protests? Because we're getting pictures of protesters all over the city.

Nowhere except at Union Station. There was a big chunk of them there. right at Union Station with their vulgar signs and nastiness. But we really I mean, Dana was mentioned a little bit ago. We were at a reception with some friends, actually Henry McMaster, our incoming governor, after Governor Haley gets confirmed.

And we were talking about it there, too. We haven't seen protesters anywhere except right there at Union Station, and they were nasty and vulgar with their tolerance signs and whatnot about the family. Yeah, we're seeing a lot of images, particularly on Fox News today. All over TV. Yeah, all over TV.

That's happening around the city, but they're kind of cordoned off.

Well, Chad, listen, we just hadn't seen them. Yeah, I want to thank you for taking some time with us today. I want you to get back with Dana and the kids and the family and just enjoy your time there in D.C. And appreciate you so much for the work you did during this past election, bringing people of faith into the election process. God bless you, my brother.

Look forward to seeing you soon. Thank you, Tony. Love you, brother. God bless you. Love you, too.

Man, great guy. You know, one thing we need to remember is people of faith. We have one job now. And that's to pray every day for President Donald Trump and this country. We need to go to God in prayer and be supportive in that way.

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It's great to be with you today on Line of Fire. It's a great honor to be sitting in this chair talking to you. If you'd like to get on the program, I'd love to talk to you. 866-348-7884. Let me give you that number again.

If you want to talk to me, tell me your thoughts today on this inauguration day of Donald J. Trump as President of the United States, 45th President, 866-3444. 348-7884. We'll be glad to get you on the program. We have a special guest coming up in the next hour.

His name is Tony Robbins. He's a retired federal agent, served for over 20 years in federal law enforcement. And one of the things that certainly has happened during the Obama administration is a breakdown in respect between the administration and rank-and-file police officers. And I want to talk to Tony about that because he's got some thoughts and also some thoughts about what a Trump administration, I mean, yes, a Trump administration, what that might mean for law enforcement. And can we improve that relationship?

Donald Trump gave during the inaugural address today, actually gave a shout out to law enforcement, cut number seven. Let's pull up cut number. I'm talking Oh, you don't have it. Never mind. I thought I'd given you the CD.

That's what happens, ladies and gentlemen, live radio. We'll have to wait. We'll wait to the end of the segment. We'll get some of those. I'm actually going to play some of the clips from the inauguration today, some of the things that Trump said, because I want you to hear the flavor of this address.

It was an amazing inaugural address in a lot of respects. And part of the reason it was so different. First of all, it was different for Donald Trump in the sense that when he was out on the campaign trail, a lot of times, and even since he's been president-elect, he's talked about topics and subjects from the standpoint of what it means to him. In other words, in the middle of a conversation Donald Trump is having on Twitter or one that he's speaking to the American people or he's giving an interview, he would talk frequently about himself. In the inaugural address today, There was none of that.

In fact, the star of the inaugural address today was the people. It was the people of the United States. And I'm going to play, like I said, we get the opportunity here in a few minutes. We'll play a couple of those cuts that point to the fact that Donald Trump believes not only did the one political party prevail, but that a new movement of the people prevailed that is going to give the power and influence back to the people and away from Washington. I think that's the core of Trump's message that he gave during the campaign.

And that is what I think people who are supporting him expected to hear from him today.

Now, as I was talking to Chad, You know, all the pundits said, I was listening to some of that this morning. I was listening to it last night. That what Trump has to do, what does the president-elect have to do today with this speech? They all said the same thing. He has to sound a conciliatory note.

He has to point to the fact that we're going to be a unified country.

Well, he talked about being a unified country, but he talked about it on the terms of America first. It was a very patriotic speech. There was nothing in it that to me smacked of nationalism in a negative way. He simply said that the decisions that are made now in Washington, whether it be with immigration, whether it be with our foreign policy, whether it be with tax plans, whatever, with health care, whatever decisions come out of Washington, D.C., they're going to be focused on America first. What's best for the people?

What's best for America? And folks, I got to tell you. Under many administrations in recent history, there has not been this kind of focus. The focus has been on Washington politics and an electoral machine. It's been on trying to maintain power or to maintain personal position in Washington.

And I think that's one of the reasons that people think Washington is corrupt and why when Donald Trump would say drain the swamp, they resonated with what he was saying because people have felt left behind. And that's something that Trump also talked about in the inaugural address today: the fact that people in this country, the average American, has felt betrayed by the power brokers in Washington. And that day is now gone. The day of America becoming the second rate power in the world. You know, right now, the United States of America is the most powerful and prosperous nation on the face of the earth.

And when And when President Obama would say that, it was almost like he was apologizing, like that, that was something we shouldn't be proud of or try to speak of, but it was something that we should be ashamed of.

Well, you know, I think. That day is over. I think President Donald Trump is going to put, as he said, America first again and restore America's leadership position in the world.

Now, we have to be careful about that because, as believers in Jesus Christ, we put God first. It's good to be patriotic. Listen, you won't find anybody more patriotic than me. When I go to Washington and I have the opportunity to stand at the feet of Abraham Lincoln at the Lincoln Memorial, or I go and I see the statue of Thomas Jefferson and I ride around Washington and I see all the symbols of our history, I get very emotional. I'm very proud to be an American.

But more important than being an American, I'm a follower. I'm a believer, a disciple, a follower of Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior. And that, for us as evangelicals, we have got to maintain some distance between us and those who hold the levers of power.

Now, I'm not suggesting that we not have relationships with people in the government. That's not what I'm saying. But I'm saying that we can't ever let the lure of political power replace the real power in the universe, which is the power of God through Jesus Christ. We have to humble ourselves. And we need to make sure that we're not pulled into this idea.

Idea that politics and the government can fix all the problems in the world because he can't. Donald Trump's going to need our prayers. I appreciate Lisa's call from Baltimore. By the way, once again, if you want to be on the program today, if you'd like to comment, 866-348-7884. That number again is 866-348-7884.

I appreciate Lisa's comment that whether we supported Donald Trump or not, he's now the 45th president of the United States, and we have got to surround him with prayer. We have to humble ourselves. I'm struck by the fact. When I think about the scripture, I think about King Solomon when the temple was finished and the power of God actually fell in the new temple. The presence of God was so strong that those worshipers, those on the inside, actually were driven out by the power of God.

On that magnificent day, God looked at Solomon and told him, You're going to walk away from me. Let me give you the formula that it's going to take for you to return to me when you abandon me. If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, will forgive their sin and heal their land. In fact, that was the very verse that Vice President Pence put his hand on today when he was sworn in to be the vice president. All right, Cassandra, we've got, she's from Massachusetts.

We've got about two minutes. Cassandra, welcome in. Yes, sir. I want to congratulate. for um for being the president of of great sound tree.

Which that's fully I am a Born in my I am Asian American. And I thank God for this. this country because I've been blessed go out this country. When I come here, thought the Lord has blessed me. Might be handled.

And I just want Let's say that. Yeah. um new transition right now because I was watching the news yesterday, all the 70s Senators that did show up. They they are going to speak it to the man in is right between the eyes that they're going to make these pretty those feet very difficult.

So and it is of dire need right now. We need to pray, get on our knees and pray for God's time. Yeah. upon this great nation. And pray for our kids who are in school that teach Sure.

I'm making them hate Simpson. God bless America. God bless you, Cassandra. Thanks for being on line of fire today. She mentioned 68.

It was actually congressmen, it was actually House Representatives. I think she said senators, but that's okay. It's easy to get those confused. But it was 68 Democrat House members that refused to take part in what has historically been known as a nonpartisan, peaceful transfer of power. It's a unique thing in the world.

I mean, think about it. Most countries, when there's a transfer of power, it's over the dead bodies of the losers. That's how power gets transferred in most countries around the world. The United States has been a historic example of what can happen when it's a government of, by, and for the people rather than a government that's run by a dictator or by an ideology that oppresses common people.

So it was very disappointing to me. I don't have any problem with people who disagree with President Trump expressing their disagreement. By protest, because that is a historic right in America for the people to stand up and protest. But to do it by disrespecting the process, disrespecting the peaceful transfer of power by refusing to participate, to me, that's a serious problem. I think it's something that shouldn't have happened.

But that's over. We need to put that behind us and all the other stuff behind us. And as Lisa said, as Cassandra said, we need to pray for President Donald Trump. He's now the president. We'll be back in just a minute.

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Michael Brown. Welcome back. This is Dr. Tony Beam sitting in for Michael Brown today. It's an honor to be in this position, particularly on a day that is filled with so much history.

It is definitely an amazing day when a businessman who has never held office before, any elected office at all, from city council to county council to state office to anything, is now President of the United States. And Donald Trump today at noon, when he took the oath of office, became the 45th President of the United States. I want to play some of the, what we're going to do at this particular time is look at some of the things that President Trump had to say in his first opportunity as he addressed the American people.

Now, this first clip I'm going to play for you is a little bit long. It's, excuse me, I meant number four instead of number three. It's a little bit long, but it's an amazing statement because with all Of the political leadership of Washington sitting there behind him and on that platform with him, he basically said that they're responsible for not delivering to the American people the promises that they had made. And he said, it's going to be a different day. Listen to this.

For too long. A small group in our nation's capital has reaped the rewards of government while the people have borne the cost. Washington flourished. But the people did not share. in its wealth.

Politicians prospered, but the jobs left. and the factories closed. The establishment protected itself. but not the citizens of our country. Their victories have not been your victories.

Their triumphs have not been your triumphs. And while they celebrated in our nation's capital, There was little to celebrate. for struggling families. all across our land. That all changes.

Starting right here. And right now, Because this moment is your moment. It belongs to you. All right, that was kind of long, but I wanted you to hear all of it because that is an amazing statement. From as an inaugural address, and here's why.

In my mind, it's somewhat unprecedented. Usually, a president is going to get up there, and the first thing they're going to communicate is something about the victory of their party, their ideals, conservative ideology. There was none of that. In fact, President Trump brought the whole Washington establishment into question, even people in his own party that had held that office before, saying that they had failed in their promises to the American people to make sure that it was the American people that were prospering. And so instead of a transfer of power, essentially, from one political party to another, Donald Trump talked about a transfer of power from Washington back to the people of this country.

And that is definitely not something that the political establishment class wanted to hear. And now I think you've got, if you've wondered during the course of the campaign, what was it about Donald Trump, or what is it about Donald Trump, that made these political establishment types crazy, that they came out against him and they pushed back so hard against him? What caused that? This is it. You just heard it because he understood that the promises of Washington, D.C.

had been broken, that Washington didn't work anymore because Washington was supposed to work for the people. It was not supposed to be an entity unto itself that was separated from the people. And giving that power back to the people scares a lot of people to death. Particularly, the politicos in Washington. And I want to tell you something, it's refreshing.

To me, it's a refreshing way to look at governing. It's the type of government that I think our forefathers had envisioned. This idea of power being held lightly and being with the focus of that power being on the American people.

Now, I want to play another segment here, another clip, because here we have Donald Trump, President Trump now, in number six. He's talking about friendship and goodwill with nations around the world. Let's hear what he had to say about that. We will seek friendship and goodwill with the nations of the world, but we do so with the understanding that it is the right of all nations to put their own interests first. We do not seek to impose our way of life on anyone, but rather to let it shine as an example.

We will shine for everyone to follow. You know, how much in contrast is that vision of America's role in the world to the vision that was put in place by President Barack Obama? I mean, after President Obama was inaugurated, he immediately, or within the first year, went on a tour of countries around the world that many people said was an apology tour. He was basically telling countries around the world, we've been aggressive, we've stepped over the bounds, we apologize for being who we are as Americans in the world.

Now you've got a much different vision. You've got President Trump's vision is that we are going to shine, we are going to be leaders in the world, and but we're going to do it in a state of friendship, we're going to do it with goodwill, we're not going to try to impose our will on other countries of the world. We'll work with you, we'll work in concert with you where we can find elements that we agree on, but make no mistake. At the end of the day, we're going to be a people who protect our interests. I think that's what the American people have been wanting to hear out of our foreign policy.

When you look at eight years of foreign policy under President Obama, you see a very bad Iran nuclear deal. You see a very rogue state in North Korea getting aggressive with their nuclear weapons. You see an agreement made with Cuba that basically ignores the fact that Cuba is still a communist dictatorship. You see Israel, our best friend on the planet, are certainly our best friend and the only free democracy in the Middle East being abandoned at the last minute by President Obama as he's on the way out the door. You see chaos in Libya.

Yes, we had a moment where we were able to capture some of the ISIS leaders in Libya, but Libya collapsed under President Obama's watch. It became a disaster that led to Benghazi. As we look at Yemen, as we look at the refugee crisis, that's taking place in Europe. What is the source of the refugee crisis? It's the failed state of Syria, which President Obama tried to get in and then got out, causing confusion, allowing the Russians to get in that caused the refugee crisis that led to ISIS.

You look at Crimea. You look at the Ukraine. You look at the aggressive posture of Russia. All of these things happened under President Obama's watch. Under President Trump, I think there will be strength, but I think there will also be a willingness to work with other countries around the world, but always with the interest of the United States and its allies being protected.

I think that's what the American people have been longing for and I believe that's what we'll get. We're going to take a quick break. We're coming back. Tony Robbins will join us. He's a retired federal officer on the line of fire.

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Here again is Dr. Michael Brown. All right, welcome back to the show. This is Dr. Tony Beam sitting in for Dr.

Michael Brown today. It's an honor to be here. And if you were looking to hear him today, he'll be coming back soon. But today, they allowed me to have the honor of being in this chair. If you'd like to be on the program, 866-348-7884.

That number, again, is 866-7, excuse me, 866-348-7884. We'd be glad to talk to you. We have a special guest today in the studio. It's a good friend of mine. We actually grew up in the same small town in North Carolina.

Our paths went different directions. His went into law enforcement at the federal level. And, of course, mine went into radio broadcasting and then ultimately into the gospel ministry.

So I want to welcome Tony Robbins. He's a retired federal agent, spent over 20 years in federal law enforcement. And it's good to have you in the studio today, Tony. Thanks for taking some time. Yeah, thanks, Tony, for having me.

28 years to be exact. 28, yeah, close to 30 years. And still working for the government as a contractor, doing some things. Right, right, doing background investigations, things like that. That's right.

Yeah. Well, Tony, I know you've kind of, I'm sure you're watching some of the inauguration today, and you're seeing one of the things that we've been seeing a lot of here just a few minutes ago were the protests that are taking place. It looks like we've gotten reports of 98 people so far that have been arrested. We're seeing trash cans turned over, fires started, cars being smashed in a couple of those videos that I saw. And also, obviously, disrespect for law enforcement as some of those people are actually throwing things at police officers today.

When you see things like that, how does that make you feel?

Well, it makes me feel bad for those officers out there on the front line because it's it's a dangerous, dangerous thing that they're doing. Uh I was I was on the streets in Philadelphia for the Bio 2005 conference when a police officer died about 10 yards away from me. And it was an emotional thing for all of us. He died because of the actions of some protesters. And things got really, really dicey there.

You could cut the tension with a knife in the air. But the Philadelphia police handled it beautifully. And to be honest, it was the same people that are up there today protesting. The so-called anarchists, the ALF, ELF, those groups that are there today protesting. It was the same ones.

Yeah. A lot of these people don't realize they see these scenes on television, and most people don't know that these are professional protesters in a sense. That is, their purpose, as you said, you called them anarchists, which is accurate. Their purpose, and it's not everybody, don't get me wrong, not everybody in D.C. today is an anarchist.

But the ones that are being most violent likely are, and they go around in different venues. It doesn't really matter what the topic is. Their purpose is to cause chaos. Yeah, like I said. They've been organized for years.

In 2000, I worked the inauguration of President Bush. And we had made great precautions because we were getting the intel was that the same thing was going to happen. That was the year that President Bush barely beat Al Gore. And so there was a lot of the same feelings, I guess, with some of these protesters then.

So they came into D.C. and we got lucky. The weather was bad, and they're lazy. They didn't want to come out of their hotel rooms and their micro buses and their tents. And so it was a strange winter storm that night that came through, and we didn't have the problem that we thought we were going to.

But they were there and they were prepared. And like I said, I ran into a G8 summit in Georgia, South Georgia. We ran into them down there, and once again, weather got them. But it's the same group and That now they're in D.C. doing what they do.

Right.

Well, and we need to remember to pray for these officers, certainly, throughout this weekend, because they're going to be up there facing off these protesters, not just today, but tomorrow. There's going to be a large protest of the women's groups coming to D.C. We're talking with Tony Robbins on Line of Fire. We'll be back to continue the conversation in just a minute. Mm-hmm.

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We're talking to Tony Robbins. He's a retired federal officer, 28 years in service to the country. By the way, thanks for that. I appreciate that very much. I wanted to talk a little bit about the transfer now because, well, let's go back.

Before we talk about what a Trump administration is likely to be like with law enforcement, let's go back and review a little bit about how the Obama administration and law enforcement seems to have been going in opposite directions. I think it's a fair statement to say that law enforcement did not feel responsible. During the Obama years. Is that fair? Yeah, it is, Tony.

And it's unfortunate. It's really unfortunate. But it started back, if you remember, in Cambridge, Massachusetts, with a police officer in Cambridge, where the officer was doing his job and the Harvard professor felt slighted because I guess he had got locked out of his home. And the President of the United States made a comment on it. The president said the officer acted stupidly, was his exact words, if I remember, without knowing the facts of what happened.

And it was The same day, he said it the same day that it happened, to the best of my memory. And everybody in law enforcement, that's the first time we really took notice. And it got her attention. And then you had other things. You know, the Trayvon Martin thing really wasn't a police action, but it kind of did involve law enforcement.

And then you fast forward to what happened in Ferguson and what happened in Baltimore.

Well, the officer in Ferguson was just doing his job. It had nothing to do with race. That officer would be dead today if he had not done his job. And So you expect leadership of the country to to to first back law enforcement until law enforcement's proven wrong. And we can go back through all these situations the last Several years, the one in North Charleston was wrong.

What we saw there was wrong. Certainly. But you know the other police shootings that have happened in the country are are are Mostly police officers fighting for their lives.

Well, and even charges of police brutality. I think about what happened in Baltimore when the perpetrator there in that particular case died while being transported. And all these police officers were brought up on charges, and every single charge was not guilty. I think one was a hung jury that they're not going to go back and try to retry because the evidence was never there that those law enforcement officers acted in a way that was not right. Yeah, and the judge, who I believe is an African-American judge, it was a bench trial, dismissed.

I think they've all been dismissed at this point. Right.

And of course, and that judge, actually, in the case, was known for being hard on law enforcement. And even he could see that there wasn't anything here. But the other thing that I thought was fascinating about the Obama years, Tony, is that President Obama was very willing, it seems to me, to insert. Himself into all these local law enforcement issues and always seemingly against the position of law enforcement.

Well, you know, it's like with Ferguson in Baltimore. He would start out with, we got to have order in the streets. Right.

But There was always a but. And it sent a bad message to certain individuals that. you know, has a dis disdain for law enforcement in it and it just I think intensified their their mistrust. It intensi it it enabled them To, I think, act sometimes when they wouldn't had. I think.

uh the Dallas police shooter. It is a direct um That is one of the reasons that individual took the actions he did. And the way we might could put that is there wasn't obviously approval given, there wasn't permission given, but the actions of those in leadership made it seem they kind of left the door open that violent reaction to police officers was in some way acceptable because of a perceived prejudice against people. And I think that was a terrible idea to let out of the box, and it put law enforcement lives in danger. Oh, I agree.

And, you know, the president could have came out and said, look, I feel the African-American community's pain. I do. And then the but, but if you are going to go out and loot and burn, we are going to bring you to justice. Let me promise you that. Which a lot of police chiefs, you know, and even the police in Ferguson came out strong with a statement just like that.

Look, we understand the tensions, we understand what's happening here, but we're going to enforce and keep law and order in this community. And I think that's the way it has to be approached.

Well, as we think about the Obama administration in that regard, going forward, obviously the Justice Department, you had Eric Holder, and then, of course, Loretta Lynch. How do you think that the Justice Department and the Trump administration is going to treat law enforcement?

Well, first of all, let me say Eric Holder as an individual, and you and I have discussed this, I have a lot of respect for him. He's a very nice man. I've worked directly with conservative Republican attorney generals that I didn't personally like as much as I liked Eric Holder. Um Eric Coulter is a very liberal person. And um The current, or as of yesterday, Attorney General, the same way.

And the Justice Department, I mean, we saw a big drop in a lot of prosecutions that we counted on as being federal agents to help keep the country safe. I think going forward you you'll see Um Senator Sessions is a great, great supporter of law enforcement. He's a great supporter of the military. I think. I think in the squad rooms and the police cruisers, there's.

Joy today. Yeah. Not only that, but in the hangars down at Shore Air Force Base with the crews of those F-16s, I think there's joy today that we're starting a new chapter and that they're going to feel like They are being supported from the top down, which I can tell you the last couple of years, law enforcement didn't feel that way. L law enforcement felt like We were in the line of fire. had a target on her back.

and nobody was supporting us. From the top. And Should I pull that trigger? And law enforcement officers never have to think that. Right.

I was going to say, even in the limited amount of law enforcement experience I've had with campus security at North Greenville University, how important it is that every officer believes that the administration has their back, that we're going to be, that unless they do something that is indefensible, they're always going to have the know that the people that have the administrative responsibility are going to be defending them and supporting them. I think that's critical. It is. And after a lot of these shootings and statistics are that You know, white suspects are shot at least twice the rate of black suspects. It's just the facts.

It is. And You know, after the police shootings, you would hear a a call for um civil rights investigations. And First of all, civil rights violations is very hard to prove. You've got to prove that there was some malice racially or with sexual orientation by the officer. And that is just almost always impossible.

Even in the North Charleston case, I don't think they could prove a hate crime.

Well, yeah, it wasn't necessarily a hate crime. It was just very poor judgment on the part of that police officer. And you can't have that when life, you know, it's a life and death decision, obviously. And we're not saying that police officers never make a mistake, but for the large part, for the most part, police officers are doing their jobs and they deserve our support. In twenty-eight years I never heard Saul, we never discussed about targeting somebody because of their race or sexual orientation or gender.

It just never happened. It just never came up. It never came up. Right.

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We're talking with Tony Robbins. He's a retired federal officer, spent 28 years in service to the country at the federal level in law enforcement. And I wanted to ask you, Tony, we've seen a whole host of pardons here at the close of the Obama administration. And as a law enforcement officer, when you see even what's described as nonviolent drug offenders being let out, and actually, Some of those drug offenders that are described as nonviolent were guilty of violent crimes at some point in their life, maybe not for the crime that they were locked up for at the moment, but they had a history of violent behavior. And we saw President Obama pardon or commute the sentences of about 366 in one day.

He has commuted, as President of the United States, more criminal sentences than any other President in U.S. history. Talk to me a little bit about what that means to a law enforcement officer. Yeah, you know, I teach criminal justice classes at the college level. And I had class last night.

I have several guys in sheriff's department, police departments, and we were discussing this. And I can tell you it's just disgust with everybody in law enforcement. And it's not only the it's not only the pardons, but it it really started with, um Well, as far as me personally, with the reduction in the crack sentence and guidelines. Right.

And that was kind of a bipartisan thing, but it was really accelerated under this administration. And I had a couple of individuals, one that He went to trial. You got a life sentence. He uh was supposed to die in federal prison. He had he had um there were firearms uh charges involved uh along with the drug charges and and he threatened me personally.

Um uh during during uh the process. I testified in federal court to that fact. Uh he's getting out this year. Another individual that that uh I had put in uh Same case. He got 40 years.

He got out last year. And he's I can tell you, he's a psychopath. And he was making threats to our witnesses from federal prison. And those individuals, that one's out. The other one that got the life sentence getting out this year.

Well, you know, what amazes me about that is when people hear about criminals getting pardoned or their sentences getting commuted or them being released or whatever the case may be, they forget. You know, they'll hear, well, this person is not violent anymore.

Well, they forget about all the people that were involved in putting that person in jail in the first place and what kind of a risk might be involved to the people who were involved in that process when they let those people out. Just like you were talking about, you were threatened by these people.

So I'm sure that law enforcement is very uncomfortable when the prison doors begin to swing open. I think under the Trump administration that we're going to see a reversal of that, that we're going to see a, I think Donald Trump will be more of a law and order president. You and I have talked a lot about George H.W. Bush, and he's, of course, in the hospital right now. He was in ICU.

I think he may still be an ICU. You. But the report today was that he was recovering. We're thankful for that. We want to thank God that President George H.W.

Bush seems to be doing better. And also, Barbara. But as a federal law enforcement officer, you had great respect for him because of the way he communicated his support to law enforcement. Yeah, I can't say enough about the Bush family. And Bush won, President Bush, just what a gentleman.

Well, really both. And I had an opportunity to be around them, to work around them some in my career. And they are just a great family. I'll tell you one thing that the Bushes would do, they would do it for the guys with Secret Service and the people that worked at the White House. During holidays, a lot of times they would stay in the White House.

So that meant the family of the agents and the staff could spend part of their time On the holiday with their families after they did their shifts. The Bushes were like that because they knew public service. I mean, President Bush won. I mean, I don't know that there's ever anybody that had more experience that went into the White House. I heard him talking about Hillary Clinton having, well, she'll be the most experienced president nowhere she can't compare to George Bush.

Right.

George H.W. Bush. That's right. Because he was ambassador to China. He was the head of the CIA.

Congressman. A congressman served in World War II as a fighter-bomber pilot. I mean, it was pretty amazing. Not World War II, but World War II. That's right.

So, yeah, all of that experience, of course, that he brought to bear as President of the United States, but a real supporter of law enforcement. But we were talking earlier a little bit about Jeff Sessions, and I know that you've done a little bit of reading about Jeff Sessions' history. You say that he is a law and order person, somebody who's always supported law enforcement. What kind of attorney general do you expect him to be, Tony?

Well, I. First of all, he was an assistant U.S. Attorney, which is a line prosecutor in the U.S. Attorney's Office. As you know, there's 94 federal uh judicial districts.

And he was in a A U S A in uh the Southern District of Alabama. I think he started in seventy five and then in eighty one he was appointed by President Reagan to become US Attorney and he served there until nineteen ninety three. I think that's when he got elected um to to the State Attorney General's office. Right, right. And um I I know the agents that that that I worked with that work down in Alabama, they They liked him as a prosecutor.

He's got a lot of experience. You know, like I said, there's been a dramatic decline of some. critical prosecutions in the federal government under this past administration, and one of them being is is federal firearms violations. I mean, federal fire firearms violations is a great, great tool for Federal agents to use to put away violent offenders. You may not be able to get them on one.

You know, it's like the Al Capone thing. They got him on taxes.

Well, firearms charges are and the senates and guidelines for the U.S. government are tough on firearms charges.

So I think you'll see a change with Attorney General Sessions. Going back to the grassroots with federal law enforcement. And, you know, I say federal law enforcement, that not only affects federal law, state and local law enforcement refer a lot of cases to the federal government. Yeah, it's kind of ironic that you had President Obama so much in favor of gun control. That's right.

And yet you have a Justice Department that wasn't interested in prosecuting federal law violations of gun for when it came to guns. 40%. That's amazing. 40%, I think, 40%, around 40% less gun prosecutions. Right.

And I've got my theory.

Well, you know why, but that doesn't really matter. It's just a fact that that happened. It's a fact that happened. I think you're right. I think that'll certainly turn around under a Trump administration.

Well, Tony, thanks for taking some time with us today, my friend. Oh, it's good being here. Yeah, it's always good to see you and your family, and I appreciate your friendship over the years, and God bless you for your service. Yeah, thanks, Tony. Thank you very much.

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We appreciate Tony Robbins being with us. Thanks to Chad Connolly for joining us earlier in the program today talking about the inauguration. If you'd like to weigh in with your thoughts, I'd really like to talk to some of you about your thoughts about the inauguration today. If you were able to see it on television or if you've been following the news reports, the number is 866-34 TRUTH, 866-34-TRUTH, and that translates into 866-348-7884. If you'd like to be part of the program, I'd love to hear from you.

Some of you may be wondering, who in the world am I? I'm actually the Vice President for Student Life and Christian Worldview at North Greenville University. You've heard the name Alex McFarland, I'm sure, before. Alex has filled in for Dr. Michael Brown on several occasions.

Alex is the director for the Center of Apologetics and Christian Worldview at North Greenville University. And I work together at the university, and that it has been a great opportunity there to defend the Christian worldview and to talk about apologetics. You know, that's something that Dr. Michael Brown does. A wonderful job.

In fact, if you'd like to see some of the resources, the articles that he's written, the defense of the Christian faith, the videos, they're all available. You can go to the website, thelineoffire.org, and all you have to do is click on the digital library to get to Dr. Brown's articles and videos. But I wanted to tell you just a little bit about North Greenville University. We're a four-year liberal arts university, Christian university.

We're where Christ makes the difference. And we're located in northern Greenville County in South Carolina, what's known as the upstate.

South Carolina is kind of divided into three sections. You have the upstate, the Midlands, and the Lowcountry. And we're In the upstate of South Carolina, we have about 2,400, 2,500 students. Most of those are resident students, the majority. We have around 1,500 living on campus.

And we offer about 40 undergraduate degrees, Bachelor of Arts and Bachelor of Science degrees. We have a graduate program that's online. Our CAPS program is what we call it. It's completely online. We have seven degrees that you can get online from North Greenville University.

Criminal Justice is one of those degrees. We were just talking with Tony Robbins. And you have that opportunity. We have two doctorates that we offer and five master's programs.

So, North Greenville, if you're looking for a Christian education, and you know, one of the things that happens to young people is they go to high school, they're under the influence of their parents, and then they graduate from high school. And if they go to the university, if they go to a lot of secular universities, Their Christian worldview is rocked. They're challenged. They're surrounded by people who don't believe, and they're challenged by liberal and progressive professors that don't have the faith that you've raised your children to have. And a lot of times they end up being confused and wandering sort of in the wilderness for a while.

North Greenville University, what I like to tell parents when they visit the school and think about putting their children in school at North Greenville University, their students, is that you've built a good foundation for them. And at North Greenville, we're going to take that foundation, add to it, strengthen it, give them a Christian worldview, a way of looking at the world that is through the lens of Scripture, God's Word, and we're going to send them out in the world to be world changers, to be difference makers, to make a difference in the name of Jesus Christ in a world that is lost and in need of the gospel. And, you know, I'm so thankful for the students that I've come in contact with. With over the years. I've been at North Greenville now going on 13 years, and I've seen a lot of our students graduate and go make that difference.

So, if you're interested in North Greenville University and would like to know more about it, you can contact me via email tbeam at ngu.edu. That's tbeam at ngu.edu, and I'd be glad to send you some information. All right, that's my infomercial for today. When we come back, we're going to talk some more about the inauguration. It's a historic day.

You're listening to the line of fire. Oh. It's the line of fire with your host, Dr. Michael Brown, your voice of moral, cultural, and spiritual revolution. Here again is Dr.

Michael Brown. All right, this is Dr. Tony Beam sitting in for Dr. Michael Brown today, who is traveling, and it's an honor to be on the program today. I was looking for an article that Dr.

Brown had written that I saw just yesterday that was posted at Christian Post, and I think it's still up there, but it's kind of gotten moved over. It was, oh, here it is. If you'd like to read his latest article at Christian Post, you can go to ChristianPost.com. Of course, you can get all of his articles at the lineoffire. And that's the lineoffire.org.

But you'll see that Dr. Brown's articles are posted a lot of different places around the web. And Christian Post is one of those places. He has a column, an article called What Does It Mean to Be a Mediocre Negro? If you don't know what that's all about, CNN, there was a CNN debate where Lamont Hill, who is, I think, at Cornell University, was talking about all of the people of color that were going to Trump Tower.

You had actors, you had theologians, you had, for example, Martin Luther King III went to Trump Tower and met with Donald Trump. And the comment was focused on the fact that these were not the kind of leaders of color that Donald Trump should be meeting with, at least according to Lamont Hill.

So Dr. Michael Brown dealt with that in a very good way, writing. This column, you can get it at thelineoffire.org, or you can see it also at Christian Post. I want to take a few minutes this hour to talk about a little bit more about the inaugural speech. We've got some more clips that I want to play and comment on and talk about their meaning.

But already, Now, and think about this, folks. This is an amazing thing. Already. President Trump has changed the website, the government website associated with the White House, and put replaced President Obama's priorities with his priorities.

Now, you would think, at least I would think, just well, that's not one of the big things that you're going to do, that you're not going to on day one go start changing the website. But that's exactly what Trump did, President Trump did. And I think the reason is to send a signal to his critics. To send a signal to people that may have doubted him that he is serious about the agenda that he campaigned on. Because when you look at these priorities that are on the White House website, they are right out.

It's almost like we're going back to Gettysburg. You remember when candidate Trump at the time, probably about a month before the election, went to Gettysburg, Pennsylvania, and kind of laid out in detail in a very detailed speech, the most detailed speech that he gave. in the campaign, what exactly he would do if he was elected President. And a lot of those priorities are now reflected at the White House website. I think President Trump is serious about the reforms that he said he was going to bring, and he's already moving forward in that direction.

But let's listen to a little bit more of the inaugural address today. If you didn't get a chance to hear it, I'm sure a lot of people are working today, you didn't have a chance to be around a TV. Tony was just telling me, our guest, Tony Robbins, said, Well, I taped the whole thing. I'm going to go home and watch every bit of it.

So some of you may be doing that. But listen, this is President Trump in his inaugural address today talking about the course of America and how that course is now going to be much different. Together we will determine the course of America. And the world for many, many years to come. We will face challenges.

We will confront hardships. But we will get the job done. You know, that's a promise that he echoed many times on the campaign trail, and I'm glad that he kind of led with that in the inaugural address. As we talked about in the first hour today, there have been a lot of critics who said that Trump's speech was not conciliatory enough. And I can't believe these folks don't, they haven't gotten Donald Trump yet.

He's not the kind of guy that's going to crack a microphone and start talking about how we're going to do an olive branch over here and an olive branch over there. He was conciliatory to me in the fact that he said we needed to be a united America. But he's not willing to compromise the principles that he campaigned on, the promises that he made to the people of the United States, for the sake of some kind of false unity. You know, real unity is when people get together around principles that they can agree on. Real unity is a strengthening of America.

Whereas the kind of unity that I think President Obama called for over and over was a unity that meant the compromise of core principles into some kind of mishmash of agreed upon principles that didn't have the strength of a strong foundation. Donald Trump is calling the country back to the principles that he campaigned on. And he wants to unite not around an ideological agenda, but he wants to unite the country around principles that are good for every American. In fact, he talked about the fact that he's going to make sure that every decision has America first. Listen to this.

This is another portion of the inaugural address today where he talked about every decision being an American decision. Every decision on trade, on taxes, on immigration, on foreign affairs. Will be made to benefit American workers and American families. We must protect our borders from the ravages of other countries making our products, stealing our companies, and destroying our jobs. You know what's amazing is I think people expected him to say the ravages of other countries and then make a reference to immigrants.

But what he said was, the ravages of other countries, how are they ravaging America? By taking jobs. By allowing, by companies moving overseas, manufacturing their products at a For less money, and then bringing those products back into America and at the expense of American workers. And under a Trump administration, as we've already seen, President-elect Trump was out there making deals with companies.

Now, a lot of those companies, to be fair, some of those companies were thinking about making the changes that they agreed to make with President-elect Trump then. They had been thinking about those changes ahead of time. But you can't convince me that those companies would have made the decisions they made to reinvest in America if Hillary Clinton had been elected president. Because they don't believe in the progressive agenda when it comes to being able to operate a profitable business. all the regulations that President that the Obama administration put on business, Obamacare, was just a it was another type of regulation that made business costs go up and made it harder for businesses to expand and to create more jobs.

And we're going to see Obamacare repealed and replaced. We're going to see regulations roll back. One of the things that President-elect Trump talked about was that the first week that he's in office, he's going to spend time reviewing and undoing a lot of overreaching executive orders. And he's going to spend a lot of time rolling back regulations that have made it difficult for businesses to prosper. And because he's made these kinds of promises, a lot of businesses are taking a look at staying in America.

They see a pro-business climate. And that's really all it takes. I mean, businesses don't want to go overseas and operate. It's expensive. Yeah, they might be able to manufacture the product for less money and less investment, but overall, manufacturing overseas, there's a lot of question marks, but they've had to do it because of the corporate income tax and because of the terrible regulations that's been put on American businesses.

I believe President-elect Trump, or President Trump now, is going to change that environment. And that's the way you're pro-business. You're not pro-business by making individual deals with companies. You're pro-business by changing the environment that becomes business-friendly and makes people want to put America first. I think Ford wants to put America first.

I don't think Ford is particularly interested in hiring, moving to Mexico and hiring people in Mexico to build cars. I think Ford and GM and steel companies and all companies would like to stay here in the United States if there was a business-friendly environment. that they could operate in and still make a profit and hire and support American workers. If you'd like to comment on any of this today, please give us a call, 86634-TRUTH. That's 86634-TRUTH or 866-348-7884.

Now, at the beginning of this segment, I talked about the fact that the website for the White House has changed already and the priorities of President Trump are in full view. You might wonder what those priorities are. We're going to take a break here in just a few, just a minute, but when we do, after we come back, we're going to talk about what the website now has listed as priorities. And I think the American people are going to be excited about this. I know there are protests in D.C.

today. I know we're a divided country. But I really believe as President Trump goes forward, if the principles that he's Says that he's going to bring to bear for America are put into action through legislation, and he signs things into law that's going to transform the country, that's when we'll see unity. We'll see unity when the principles that he puts in place makes America great again, just like he says. This is the line of fire.

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Michael Brown. Get into the line of fire now by calling 866-34-TRUTH. Here again is Dr. Michael Brown. All right, this is Dr.

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866-34 TRUTH. That's 866-348-7884. If you'd like to get in on the conversation, we'd like to talk to you. All right, we talked about in the last segment, I mentioned the fact that the Trump administration, President Trump has already changed the website. Which is controlled by the White House.

And he's put up his priorities. And I think it's pretty amazing. Because for that to happen this fast is, I think, a statement to the fact that the president is serious about his agenda. The agenda that he campaigned on is now available for everybody to see. Let's talk about that.

This is from a story from Fox News. It was actually published here just a little while ago. And someone has been to the website and is looking at some of these priorities. On defense, for example, the White House website now says that. That President Trump has vowed to rebuild the military to give America a firmer footing in pursuing peace through strength.

Now, of course, peace through strength is actually a term that Ronald Reagan used quite effectively when he was president of the United States and as he rebuilt the military. If you remember, Ronald Reagan came into office following Jimmy Carter, and we had a disastrous military operation trying to rescue the Iranian hostages. We saw five helicopters fail in the desert trying to go after those hostages. And Ronald Reagan rebuilt American military might to the point that it actually drove the old Soviet Union out of business. And Donald Trump is talking about doing the same thing for the American military.

I read a story just the other day. It was unbelievable. One of our nuclear bombers was on a routine flight. and one of the engines fell off. while it was in flight.

Now You know, it's not a great testimony to the readiness of the Air Force and the equipment that our soldiers have to deal with to have an engine actually fall off of a military airplane in flight. Donald Trump has promised as President of the United States he's going to rebuild the military. And that's already up on the White House website. All right, let's talk to Dale in Texas. He wants to talk about bringing back jobs.

And that's something that President Trump talked a lot about in the inaugural address. Go ahead, Dale. Dale, are you there? All right.

Day. Hello, Dale, can you hear me? Yes, I can. Yes, sir. You want to talk about bringing back jobs?

Well, what I wanted to talk about is I'm getting feedback, but Yeah. The notion that bringing jobs back to the United States Is necessarily the best thing for the overall economy. Is not. is not accurate. Um For instance, if Ford makes an F one hundred fifty in Mexico, and can bring it back here and sell it for two thousand dollars less, Then the same one that might have been made in the States.

That's a hidden tax on the people buying F one fifty. Right.

Because they're having to pay $2,000 more to bring those jobs back. And the same thing applies to the textile worker in South Carolina That uh Get loses his job because the t-shirts are being made in Bangladesh. The poor families that are struggling to put T-shirts on their kids and send them to school. can buy them for two dollars at Walmart. Because they're made in Bangladesh.

If they're made in South Carolina, they have to pay $8. And so. There's another consideration. Um let me jump in. Let me jump in for a second, Dale, because that's a great point that you're making.

But let me suggest something to you. I want to get your reaction to it. I think part of the reason that Ford can make cars in Mexico for $2,000 less is because of the stranglehold that a lot of the unions have over the auto industry. I think one of the reasons that Ford wants to move their plants to Mexico to manufacture their automobiles so they can sell them for less is because of the regulations that have been placed on American businesses by the Obama administration. I think what President Trump's point is is that once you remove those regulations, once you cut the corporate income tax, once you make it possible for American goods and services to be manufactured at a reasonable price in America again, that has the twofold effect of keeping those products in the country at a reasonable price, and it provides jobs for American workers.

Well, that's fine, but so long as the labor component of building them. Is 10 percent of what it is in the United States. Right.

You're going to have to. Uh believe me, I'm all for removing the impediments to efficiency in this country, but I don't think that's going to solve the the overall problem. Yeah. Well, I think, look, I think you're right, Dale. You make a great point.

But I think one of the things that President Trump is going to do is not only deal with the regulatory environment, but also with, because the main cost, you're right, of manufacturing is what workers have to be paid. And in America, I think part of that cost is tied to the power of the unions to have an unreasonable, to put unreasonable expectations out there about worker benefits. Look, I'm all for worker benefits. I mean, I work in an environment. I'm very blessed to work at North Greenville University where they take good care of me with insurance and retirement and all those things.

But it's not an unreasonable expectation that the university places or gives me. And I think that particularly in the auto industry and in other industries, the unions have driven up so much cost that if If that is reduced, we can still put workers to work in America and manufacture goods and services here for a reasonable price. At least that's my hope. But anyway, I'll give you the last word, Dale.

Well Yeah. I've spoken my piece and I don't disagree with you. I just think there are some other aspects. Right.

That will benefit the economy in the United States on the whole. Yes, absolutely. Dale, thanks for your call. Appreciate you listening to Texas to line the fire. Dale's right.

It's a complicated thing. It's not just a matter of saying to a company, you're not going to move your goods and services to Mexico or we're going to charge you a tariff. If we're going to get better in America, if we're going to make things again, if we're going to put Americans back to work, it's going to require a whole philosophy of a better business environment. It's going to mean less government regulation. It's going to mean lower taxes.

And it's going to mean that the unions can't be in absolute control over workers' benefits to the point that it drives the cost of doing business up and makes labor look for other places to go, makes businesses look for cheaper labor. All right, I hope you've enjoyed the program today. Again, it's been a great pleasure to be able to sit here on this historic day for Dr. Michael Brown. Once again, just very quickly, you can go to the website thelineoffire.org and you'll find all of Dr.

Michael Brown's videos and articles. If you'd like to email me about North Greenville University, tbeam at ngu.edu. God bless you. Gain to the world.