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A P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P. All right. Now, from now on, when anyone earns a PhD, they need to announce it that way. I want them to say it at the...
When we went to go see Dr. Shah, I think we just talked about this not long ago on the show. When they give you the doctor, it's a really solemn ceremony. I just want them to go, I-p-p-p-p-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-PhD!
There are schools that may do that. They ask you to hold your applause to the end. I don't know if I want to be part of that school. If you were still a principal, would you make the audience hold their applause to the end or would you let them?
I gave up on it. I just told them, I said, I just don't like fussing at people the moment they walk in. Because I'm doing a funeral and at the funeral there's like, so should we tell people, there's going to be not much room at the graveyard. Can we tell people not to come?
I'm like, now I'm going to have to be the one to be the bearer of bad news. Yeah. So I said, look, if the weather is 17 degrees, more than likely, most people won't come.
And if they do come and they want to park and, you know, all gather together in one bundle by the grave, that's their problem. Right. I said, I wouldn't say maybe if you want me to, I'll be glad to say anything. Well, I guess not.
That'd be all right. But people make me do the negative stuff. It's like, tell them, please put the phones away.
Oh, stinking. I just love that it was like, should we, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Really what they mean is, will you do this? And I'm like, you know how terrible that is to immediately scold people, the woman, they're walking somewhere? We talked about this on the show, so I don't mind saying it, but David's mom did that when they were doing their, when they were doing their like vow renewal. She called me and was like, they need to be sitting in the middle. They're not sitting in the middle.
Oh, no, no, I'm sorry. She said, they need to all be sitting in the middle. I was like, oh, okay. She was like, I mean, don't you think? I was like, oh, you're asking, no, not personally, no, I don't think they need to sit in the middle. They were like, I mean, I just feel like, don't you think they ought to be sitting in the middle?
And I was like, Christie, I just said, no, I don't think that, and then what she was, David got the phone and said, what she's saying is she wants you to get up there and tell everyone to sit in the middle. Or the pastors do that, pastors, can I be, can I be, can I be your friend? I'm your friend.
I'm a good friend to you right now. Stop fussing at people for sitting, not sitting on the front row, right? Just let it go.
Especially if you're Baptist. Just let it go. It ain't gonna happen. This doesn't work. They'll still sit in the back and they'll smile at you the whole time. Because guess what happens?
What happens? If you need to get up and down all during the service, what happens when they're all in the front row? It's not going to stop them from getting up.
It's just going to make the distraction last 10 times longer. I would suggest don't make any negative scolding remarks. Just like the clapping. My teachers would say that, no, we're going to go and tell them, hold the applause until the end.
And the first year I went along with it, the second I was like, let's not say anything. If they want to shout, scream, there's more publicity for us. That's right. I said, just let them do it. Okay.
All right. I'm like, they're going to do it anyways. Yeah. Right. All you're going to do. You know they're going to do it. And you're going to look like an idiot telling them, please, please, please. Okay. Listen, please. And then the only person who looks bad is you. And they're putting it on you as the principal, trying to make you fight for something you don't even care about.
No. I'm like, just let them clap. Let them whistle. Let them shout.
A hundred percent. I can't, I'll never forget Abigail telling me you better whistle for my dad. And then I couldn't do it.
I like got stage fright and I was just like, I was like, I could not get it out. It's on video somewhere. I'll try to find it. Our version of the day today is coming to us from first Peter chapter one, verse 15. But as he who called you as holy, you also be holy in all your conduct. I think that's a misconception, Dr. Shaw, that people think that humans can't be holy.
You know what I mean? Because God is holy. And so, and maybe you can clarify that because I'm not even sure what I think of it. It says you also be holy. Does it mean strive to be holy, desire to be holy? Or is it really saying, hey, be holy? Well, I mean, it is a, this guy just gave me a word of the day and I'm like, how in the world am I going to stick that in there?
It's like one, on the one hand, you're getting a really crazy secret word halfway through the episode. And then you're talking about holiness. And then it's like, so Dr. Shaw, can a human being truly be holy? I'm like, not right now, the way I think about this guy for giving me that word, I'm definitely not holy. I want to punch him.
No, I'm just kidding. Yeah, of course. Absolutely. You know, the most important attribute of God is his holiness. Not love. Love is great, but holiness is the primary attribute. When Isaiah saw the Lord in Isaiah chapter six is holy, holy, holy. When you go to the book of Revelation and the cherubs and the 24 elders are praising God is holy, holy, holy.
It's not love, love, love. Right. That's a good point. It's holy, holy, holy.
And so just know, that is, that is his primary attribute on which are hinged all the other attributes. And yes, we need to be holy. On one hand, yes, by virtue of our nature being in Christ, we are holy. But on the other hand, as I turn away from sin in my life, whatever that sin may be, that's also how I'm being holy. When I say no to sin and yes to God, turning away from sin is also holiness. That's right. Amen. That's right. You know, the more holy you get, the more you hide the word of God in your heart.
And speaking of knowing the word of God, I'm not going to lie. I'm really on this game right now. I want to just do one more. Yeah. I really liked this game a lot. This is the Bible Guess It game. I'm playing it a little bit on the show.
Got lots and lots and lots of cards here. So basically what they have to do if your first time ever tuning into the show is, Dr. Sean Ryan have to tell me a person, place or thing. You know what we call those, right? Those are nouns. Those are nouns. Good job. Yeah.
Teaching my son what nouns are. So basically they've got 15 guesses. The first guess is extremely obscure.
The first hint is extremely obscure and they get more and more obvious as they go down. It tripped me up at first because I looked at the front of the cards and there's a beautiful illustration. You know the Action Bible. You know the little illustration there. Yeah. It's like a comic book.
Very action related. But I was like, is that not just the thing that we're guessing? But it's actually not. No, it's not. It's just a random illustration. This is a person, Dr. Sean.
Okay. And Ryan as well. I died near Bethlehem. Rachel. It's Ra- Wow. That was crazy. Wow. That was really crazy. Very well done.
It's really like, it's pretty crazy to get on the first one. Okay. This is a place. Jesus talks about me. Heaven? Hell? Hell, yeah. Wow.
They put so many hints and y'all are getting them on the first one. All right. This is also a place. Necco was one of my kings. Egypt. Necco?
It's Egypt, yeah. Pharaoh Necco. This dude's unstoppable. This dude's unstoppable. Very nice. All right.
This is a person. I was prepared to fight at Soco in Judah. I was from Gath. Goliath? Yes, Goliath. Okay. Bro, this is not- The only one I know is Goliath.
This gets a lot less fun when you play with people who actually know the Bible. This is really good. All right. Last one. Last one.
This is a thing. I don't think we've done things before. Only Matthew and Mark mention me. Only Matthew and Mark mention me. People fell on their knees near me. People shouted hail near me. H-A-I-L. A donkey? I'm a donkey. I was in the Praetorium.
These hints aren't very good. The whole company of soldiers was with me. I mean, other than Jesus, Peter. It was a thing. It's an object.
It's a thing. It's like a whip. A cord.
Close. A rope. A robe. A robe. A robe. A robe. A robe. Was worn below me.
Was worn below you? Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. I'm very sharp. I'm a sword.
People used me to cause pain. Like a spear? Oh. Getting closer.
Getting closer. A dagger? My shape suggests- Dagger. Not a dagger.
My shape suggests royalty. A scepter. A scythe?
I used to be alive. Ah! What? What is this? The governor's soldiers fashioned me. The cross?
I have no idea. I was twisted together. A thorn. The crown of thorns.
The crown of thorns. Whoa! That one was- I was like, I have no clue.
No. Only Matthew and Mark mentioned me. I felt like that was a good hint, but all the rest of them, people fell on their knees near me. People shouted, hail, near me. Like, I think that was just, they were doing that at the cross, not for the crown of thorns.
Those were not good hints. Crown of thorns. Near me. Crown of thorns was- Yeah, because it says near me. Yeah, it was the crown of thorns. That's a fun game. That's a fun game.
Shout out to the action Bible guess it game. Yes. I mean, we won the other one so quickly. I know, yeah.
This one was like, no, we're going to get you. Yeah. There had to be something with like- There's some- Intense difficulty in there. Yeah. There's some real stinkers in there, but I like that one. Yeah.
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You can visit us online at ClearviewTodayShow.com, or if you have any questions or suggestions for new topics, send us a text at 252-582-5028. That's right. Dr. Shah, last Friday, a couple days ago, we watched Mark Zuckerberg get on Facebook or get on, actually, I think he was on Instagram, and he was talking about how Facebook meta really, his company that, I guess, owns Instagram and all that other stuff. By the way, that's not very innovative to come up with the word meta as the name of the company. You said it is or it's not? It's not.
Oh, no, not at all. Meta? It sounds like they just watched some Rooster Teeth. Sometimes you just call it what it is.
It's just kind of meta. In that time, we've actually been seeing a lot of companies following that example. I don't even want to say following that example like he's on some new great trajectory or something like that, but we've seen a lot of companies pulling away from their more explicit DEI policies. They're coming out with statements, I think McDonald's was one, Amazon was one, Walmart is one. Big, big, big, really significant corporations coming out and saying, hey, we feel like we're dropping these DEI policies.
They're not really... They'll always put it in that corporate speak, but what they're saying is, there's no return on investment here. DEI stands for diversity, equity, and inclusion. I was going to say inclusivity. That didn't sound right. No, it sounds like it's a secret word, but I know it's not. No, it's not. Inclusivity. No.
For the past, I would say five to six years, at least, it may have been more than that. Those were the catch words. I am very involved in the community, and so all you have to do is drop that word equity somewhere, and all of a sudden, people are like, uh-huh, yep, got you. I hear you. I hear you. I know you're on the same page as I am.
You're reading from the same songbook, we're good. And initially, I was like, everybody's talking about equity. What is equity? I get equality, but equity is different. Yeah, I thought that was something you get on your home loan or something like that. Like a home equity loan.
Yeah, how much equity do you have? Yeah, yeah. No, it's equity in the sense that it's not enough just to say, hey, we're all equal. Let's level the playing field.
No, you have to almost raise the playing field for certain players so that supposedly, they can be on the same level as everybody. In the past, you had other names for that, other initiatives that would do the same thing. And so equity was the new mantra that you have to use. Right. You're all scared. Just like. I'm waiting for it.
I'm waiting for it. The new mantra that you have to use, and of course, I think people got tired of it. Yeah. Why do you think that is? Because on the surface, I don't even want to touch equity because I don't know enough about it to really talk about it, but diversity, inclusion, these are objectively good things. Right.
Yeah. But equity did not, what was it about DEI specifically that turned so many people off? Because it's not objective at all. How do you really determine if someone is getting their fair shot at a job or an admission or some chance at life? How do you really, truly gauge that?
Right. So if there's maybe somebody who comes from the wrong side of town, but he is or she is growing up in a good home or decent home, well, they have different values. So you're treating them as if they need a leg up. But then there is a person over here who may be coming from a good side of town, but man, the family life, his or her home life is in shambles. Who needs help more? Who needs a hand up?
Who needs to be pulled up? It's very, very hard to gauge. And then it also comes with a sense of guilt and shame that, you know, you are the reason why I'm like this. You know, the whole critical race theory, the woke culture is all weaved into this equity language.
It means somebody is to be blamed for why I'm in the situation I am. Right. And we're going to root that out of you. We're going to root that racism out of you. Here's the problem. We all have racism in our hearts.
We all do. We do. Now, we can in time, whether through exposure, education, and most importantly, the work of God in our lives, we can be changed and transformed and start seeing people differently. But to say that human beings will eradicate that racism from your heart by making all these rules. And it's not just rules in the sense of, hey, everybody can drink from the water fountain. But rules in the sense like you are, because of your color, you have to now stand back and let someone else. That never works out. Yeah. It will not work out.
And it did not work out. It's not as though we're saying, hey, we're opening up the water fountain to everybody. It's saying that, hey, we don't have enough people of this color drinking from this water fountain.
So we're going to funnel some in. And even if it's not, even if there's not a long line waiting of a certain color, you still have to go wait and stand there and think about the fact that it's because of you that this has been created. What did I do? I was just waiting in line to get some water.
You need to go stand over there and feel bad until further notice. And that is the problem because that's human beings trying to refine and reform the human heart. It's not possible. How do you think it got from, okay, this is a talking point that's starting to pop up in politics to now this is policy that these billion dollar corporations are starting to ... Because I'm thinking... And maybe you can help me out with this because you know a lot more businessmen, really successful business-minded people than I do. But you would think that these business-minded people, these Fortune 500 company owners and CEOs and board members, they're not stupid people. How did it get from these are talking points that are popping up in politics to now these are policies that we're going to spend billions... Very simple answer to that. I heard that from somebody else.
It's not original to me, but when that person said that, I was like, got it. It's like this. What is better than being filthy rich?
I don't know. Being filthy rich and cool. So this whole equity thing is not just about rich people doing whatever they want, but rich people being the saviors.
So now you have all these millionaires, billionaires who are making these rules and regulations and using this lingo and they're out to save the people, the downtrodden. Oh, I'm not only rich, but I'm also the coolest guy. You want to be like me. You love me. You adore me. You worship me. Don't you?
All these social media influencers and politicians start throwing around this DEI terminology and these corporations start moving in on it to try to improve their own image. And then in time you realize how hard to implement this is and how unrealistic it is and how flat out illogical and wrong it is. David said this. You want to read that for us? What you wrote? Or did you copy it somewhere, David? No, it's something that I've heard other people say. I've heard you know me. You didn't even take the copy and paste tag off. He texted it to me. I'm like, you need to say it.
It's really good. Yeah. I've heard it just other places that I've listened to stuff like this, but basically the idea of equity is not that it's equal opportunity. It's trying to guarantee equal outcomes. So it does that at the cost of things like, what is it when you get in college, not based on your academics? Like affirmative action. Affirmative action. It's trying to get the same amount of people in each place instead of saying, okay, you earned this, so now you're going to be here. Because the idea is if you open up the playing field to everybody, people of all color, all sexes, all like men, women, people of every color, that they will gradually all fill up equally, like water in a jar. But when they don't, when they seclude themselves or segregate themselves, do you feel like it's like companies feel like they have to correct that?
Like it's like, no, no, no. We don't like that y'all are segregating yourself. So we have to push this DEI agenda.
Yes. I think that that is a great way to look at it. I think behind all of this is social Marxism. Behind all of this is social Marxism.
We know what Marxism is or communism, but social Marxism is also using societal prejudices and working on people's insecurities and telling them, hey, listen, you're not getting your fair share. It's not just workers of the world unite, but all the oppressed of the world unite. What are you oppressed about? Oh, you're transgender. Come on in. What are you oppressed about?
Oh, you're a woman. Come on in. What are you oppressed about? You're a minority.
Come on in. We will fight for you. We need to fight for our rights. So it's at the heart of it is social Marxism.
And Marxism hasn't worked in most of the world, but social Marxism is even worse. Do you think people actually thought that like Meta, Amazon, McDonald's, Walmart actually cares about my rights as a human being? Do you think people thought into it?
Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes. Because the marketing and the whole lingo and this in your face was so strong over the past five, six years that you go, wow, this is the future. This is the future. People are looking at those companies, like you just said, the social media, the marketing behind it, and it makes those companies more attractive. And it allows people to trick themselves into believing that, yeah, Amazon actually does care that I feel represented and feel included.
No, they don't. They're a corporation, but they want you to think that they feel that they care about it. Well, it's crazy because I would think that if that were the case, their stocks would go up, their net worth would go up. But shareholders and board members are saying, hey, we're spending like $8 billion a year on this, and we're not getting anything for it. They got crundles of money. What? Crundles? I mean like tons of money. Crundles of money. Crundles.
I'll do it. It's not. What a dork. This dude right here, you always fall for it.
You fall for it every time. Where's the whomp-whomp? Here's the whomp-whomp of shame.
I'll take the whomp-whomp. Crundle? I've never heard that before. That doesn't make it up. He probably made it up.
Oh. Crundles of money. Why do you fall for it every time? Well, I was about to fall for it.
Crundles. I'm glad it was you and not me. Well, yeah. I guess that's the thing is like, man, most people, like I said, I'm not going to touch equity because I don't want to start talking on something I really don't know much about. But most people and most companies and most organizations support diversity and support inclusion without attaching a woke label to it. And I think people now are going, people are so silly, they're saying now that Donald Trump has been elected and DEI companies, we're seeing it right now, companies are moving away from DEI, they're going to start bringing discrimination back.
And I'm like, you don't think really. Not really. That they're going to start putting pro-discrimination policies in place.
No. It's just another way to say, oh, Donald Trump's presidency is going to be bad for all minorities. And that is not the case. What is the case is for us to go back to a sense of decency and normalcy. Treat people the way you want to be treated. And especially if a person is a minority person, be kind, be gentle, be nice. Don't be racist. Don't be hateful.
OK. We can do that. Like, even like we dealt with this on one of our shows where that preacher was saying, you know, you have your blood is corrupted or something like that. He was saying. And we have to, racism is in your blood, you know, stuff like that.
That's like, you're going to, you're going to reform me against my wishes and somehow, you know, root it out of my heart. What is that? Yeah. I remember I forgot about that. We'll link to that.
It was a very interesting episode we did. I remember I remember watching it and being like, man, I don't know that anybody could ever have the, quote unquote, moral superiority to be able to say that unless they were a product of this woke generation, you know, unless they were crafted and made into this woke generation. Imagine saying that like to a black person or imagine saying that to a woman or imagine saying that to, you know, just just anybody who's not a straight white man.
You'd be crucified. You can't do that. Yeah. But if we don't, you know, classify this correctly, if we don't think rightly about these DEI policies and, you know, corporations kind of recovering from this, what's at stake for America? If they don't correct themselves, I mean, we will, I don't think we're going to go off the deep end.
And I'm so glad that there is a corrective because we could not continue down this path. I mean, you could see rooms divided. You could see, not because the people are racist, they were just like, I'm bad because of my color or I'm just not a good person. I have to somehow and I'm not going to do that. Some people will cave into that and they'll become, you know, like, yes, yes, totally agree. Most people are like, I don't know about that. I don't know about that.
I don't care. Like, there was even a person who did that to me while I was trying to say something about, you know, hey, at our church, we don't see color. We don't see, you know, Pastor Shah, right there is the problem. I was like, what do you, what do you mean is the problem that you don't see color? No, I want you to see color.
And I was like, oh, okay. What do you want me to do? My color is brown. What do you want me to do?
Do you see my color? I mean, I mean, you know, we can get into this, but what do you, I thought it was, hey, I want to treat everybody the way I want to be treated. That's the golden rule, right? But here, this person was making it look like, no, you're wrong for even saying that.
Then you sit there with a sense of defeatism. I don't know. It just, a bunch of. I'm going for it. Say it. Just say it. Oh, what do I say? I'm going to say it.
I'm going to press it. It's like a mandala. Yeah.
I'm going for it. No. Mandala? Mandala is what, those little weird diagrams, right? I don't know. Oh yeah. Yeah. The adult coloring books where people, it's those shapes.
Like a kaleidoscope thing. But instead of trundling through this, he gave me a word called trundle people. Somebody needs to get ready to get trundle.
He gave me ragamuffin. Trundle means to move or cause to move slowly and heavily. Like you're stuck in the doldrums.
Remember the Phantom Toll? Yeah. Trundle. I'm like, trundle?
How am I going to use trundle? All I can do is trick you all to pick a word that sounds crazy. You got us both.
Then I can give the word that is real. You got us both. It's the only way. Yeah, 100%. And I agree. I think we've been seeing this more and more.
Maybe we can talk about this on another episode upcoming, because there's really great things about to happen. But I think America is headed in the right direction. I think we're seeing this. And a lot of people, I know there's a lot of people upset that companies are doing this whole DEI pullback, but I think there's a lot of people, like way more, like maybe 90% more people who are like, you know what, I was ready for all this to be done.
I'm ready to get back to it. Like you said, not even a sense of like, just a sense of normalcy. Yeah. Right. Right. Instead of guilt reading or, you know, or guilting, I should say, people all around us into thinking you're the cause of my demise or you're this and come on, you know, Jesus Christ is the only one who truly understands the human heart.
He can truly change it. That's right. And other than that, if you're trying to play God in people's lives and society by not just making law, it's one thing to make laws and saying, Hey, this, this is free and fair to everybody. Quite different to say, we know what's in your heart.
And so now we're going to guilt you into somehow letting someone else that's, that's, that's not right. I agree. No, no universe. Is that right?
That's right. So helpful for us. Make sure you guys tune in tomorrow.
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