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It's just the earth, the world. It was a bad segue. Oh, okay. I didn't follow the segue. I was like, oh.
No, it was just a bad segue. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I think it needs to be saved from this orange scourge that is the autumn. Oh, come on.
The leaves changing, crunching on your feet, and the crisp, cool air, apple cider, pumpkin spice, pumpkin patches. This is an unofficial gripe vine. I will get in trouble at my house if I do this as a full-on gripe vine. So this is, for all intents and purposes, on the record, not a gripe vine. This is gripe light.
Off the record, this is sort of a gripe vine. The pumpkin patch. Now, I can't really gripe about it because Ellie has never made me go to a pumpkin patch as a dad. There's a big thing going on on TikTok right now where dads are getting called out for being grumpy at the pumpkin patch. Really?
Oh, yeah. People are- I have not seen this. Women are sick of our mess. Being grumpy at the- why are men being grumpy at the pumpkin patch? Because they don't want to go. Why not? Because it's boring. It's a- do you like the pumpkin patch?
Sure. What's there to like? It's a bunch of pumpkins in a field, and you pay an exorbitant amount of money and drive an hour and a half to get there. Just go get a pumpkin for more. No, no, no. They have hayrides and- No. What?
Apple cider and animals, and there's a whole- it's a whole thing. No. Just sit inside and watch TV. If this is 2024, who's excited about a pumpkin patch? I thought you- I thought you would be on board with this. No, no.
Go take the kids, have an adventure, and make a day of it. You know what? I shouldn't have been surprised. I shouldn't have been surprised.
What does that mean? What do you- what is- I like the pumpkin patch. Okay, okay.
I'm- No, no. Okay, so to be fair, if we're just driving to a field with pumpkins in it, there's nothing to do there. No, this is like a pumpkin patch.
Like, we're- like, we're with the- with all the stuff. Like with the- You're allowed to pick a pumpkin and take it home and carve it and- Yeah. Sure.
Why not? It's fun. It's an experience. Well, this- okay. This gripe is predicated on the fact that all dads hate the pumpkin patch. Well, okay. But what I'm saying is this. You don't- I don't have any burning desire to go to the pumpkin patch, but I don't hate it. It'd be a fun thing to do with kids. Right.
My- my thing is this. You are allowed to force me to go to the pumpkin patch. You're allowed to force dad to go to the pumpkin patch, but you can't gatekeep his mood. Now, what they're saying is it's not wrong. They're not- they're not- women on TikTok and moms are not calling out dads for refusing to go.
They're agreeing to go- Right. They just are pouty. But they don't like your attitude. Yeah, they're pouty. They don't- they're calling men out for being pouty at the pumpkin patch. So you gotta go and you gotta wanna go.
I saw this TikTok right here that kind of perfectly explains it. This is- this is some- Let me tell y'all something. My wife knows that I don't wanna go to the pumpkin patch. No, but we don't wanna go. My wife has knowledge of this. So she knows not to ask me if I wanna go to the pumpkin patch. And here's the thing. No dad wants to go to the pumpkin patch because all we see is money being spent for no reason.
And here's the thing. The kids don't even really wanna be at the pumpkin patch. Y'all just thinking, oh, the kids are having fun at the pumpkin patch. No, they just enjoy buying everything at the pumpkin patch.
My money. The only reason dad has agreed to go to the pumpkin patch is for those little hot apple donuts. Little donuts. Delicious. Little donuts.
I like little donuts. Do y'all really care about my son carving his first pumpkin? No. Because it cost me $20 for him to do.
And he massacred that thing. So y'all need to leave the dads alone about not being happy about going to the pumpkin patch with the family. Okay? Y'all at least got us in the car and with our credit card prepared to spend some money that we don't have.
So that's the end of the, that's the end of the video. Have you ever been, and this is something that we've never had this fight about the pumpkin patch, but we've had this fight before. Have you ever been quote unquote forced to go somewhere, but then your wife's angry because your attitude's not right. Like, have you ever been like, okay, fine, I will go where you want to go. And then on the ride there, she's angry with you because you're not happy and excited.
No, that's never happened. I don't know what else to say. Typically between the two of us, I'm the one that's like, let's go do this. Let's go, let's go.
Let's go to this place. I'm the adventurous one. She's, she's, she's more of a homebody than I am, but she'll go along with it. She's just not one to initiate like, let's take the kids to the museum or let's go to, let's, let's go to the fair. Let's do all that.
I'm usually the one that's like, here's the adventure. We're headed there. We got to, we got to segue into the main topic for today, or we got to segue into the ad, I should say. But before we do, I do want to, I want to leave the pumpkin patch behind. This will come back up. My wife and I will probably fight about this tonight.
Yo, we'll fight about this later. We're starting a new segment. It's called the secret word.
I want to talk to you guys about the secret word. There's a new segment. We're starting here on the Clearview Today show. We're going to do it every day.
Ryan and myself are going to trade days every day. Well, one day I'm going to give Ryan a secret word and then the next day he'll give me a secret word. And the whole point is to put this secret word into conversations and see if Dr. Shah will catch the secret word. They're all very weird, kind of esoteric out there words. They're all coming from Webster's Dictionaries app.
They have, they have a word of the day to try to make yourself sound a little bit more intelligent. Ryan, your word of the day is palover. It's palover. It's unimportant, meaningless or idle talk.
Palover. We're going to give Dr. Shah a buzzer. And if he thinks that Ryan has used the secret word in conversation, he's going to buzz it out.
And then you'll of course be publicly shamed. He's going to get it because I have 100% never used that word in conversation. Unimportant, meaningless or idle talk.
That's the secret word of the day. Palver. Palver. Alright, we'll be right back. Hello Clearview family. I'm Nicole.
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That's right. And we're here in the Clearview today's studio with Dr. Abidjan Shah, who's a PhD in New Testament textual criticism, professor at Carolina University, author, full-time pastor, and the host of today's show. Dr. Shah, it's so good to see you. We're in your nice fall colors. I know we...
Thank you. We really don't like fall. It's coming on, but at the end of the day, man, we just got to accept that it's happening. You've thrown we around a whole lot. Some of us are amenable toward fall.
Everybody in this room is really livid about it, but I think at the end of the day, we embrace it with grace. I think you're looking very good. Let me ask you this. We're anxiously awaiting winter. Fall activities, Dr. Shah. Pumpkin patch. Did you ever take your kids to the pumpkin patch when they were small? Oh, yes.
So let me ask you this, because there's a thing going around on TikTok. The trend right now is exposing dads who don't have fun at the pumpkin patch. For real?
For real. I'm not talking about dads who throw a fit. If you go to the pumpkin patch as a dad and you're quiet. Back in the day when we used to go, that's like 25 years ago, there was none of the corn maze, nothing, anything like that. It's just a pumpkin.
The most they had was this tractor dragging a trailer with a hayride. And then we would all get out and there's this big field, tons and tons of pumpkins. Now go get them. Oh yeah. Now I don't think that would be very fun.
Yeah, no. And that's what I'm saying. My kids, my kids are like already playing the Nintendo switch. So like, I think there's this unrealistic expectation where we're going to take them to the pumpkin patch and they're going to be like, Oh, look, pumpkins. Who is doing this? Like who is going to pumpkin patches?
Moms and toddlers. Are we sure that that's happening or is this just a narrative that's being perpetuated? That's what I don't know, man. That's what I don't know.
I think this has an unrealistic expectation. For dads to have a blast at the pumpkin patch. If you have other activities to do, like if there's other things to do there, sure. My favorite part was the animals. Like a petting zoo? Yes.
If it's a petting zoo, you have this little gumball machine and you put a quarter in and you get a little bit of some handfuls of whatever to, to feed the ducks and the goats. Well, that's fun. I can, I can deal with that. But then they took away all of that because it felt like, oh, well, it was not a good, did you see that? What just happened? So, sorry, there's, there's news playing on the TV beside us. And someone just went crazy with the zoom, just zoomed in real close on this woman's face.
Not her, but that was weird. You want to hit the verse of the day before we get any more distracted. The verse of the day today is coming to us from Proverbs chapter 10 verse four. He who has a slack hand becomes poor, but the hand of the diligent makes rich.
That's true, man. Diligently hard work. You know, that's, that's one of the, our values here at Clearview and especially on the Clearview Today show is we work hard at what we do.
Not so that we become rich off of it, but so that we see that rich impact that God is making. John Maxwell helped me tremendously with that. This is about almost 30 years ago. He made a statement in one of his speeches and his messages. He said, you know, I never worry about money. And this is at a time when I'm working three jobs and trying to survive. And I'm like, how, what do you mean not worry about money?
And he said, I go out there and my number one job is to glorify God and I'm paraphrasing and I will work my tail off. That's what I do. And somehow God always takes care of the needs.
I don't worry about how I'm going to make money. Yeah. And it always works out. Wow. And so I made that my philosophy that I am going to number one, put God first.
And it's about him through him for him. That's already settled. And then I'm just going to work. I'm going to work smart. I'm going to work hard. I'm going to be diligent. I'm going to show up even if nobody shows up. I don't care, rain shine. I don't care if people appreciate me and thank me or that they don't say anything or they are negative towards me. I'm going to do the best I can.
Here's what I found. God keeps blessing. Money keeps coming. Amen. You know, you talked about this one time and I want to, I want to talk about this because you mentioned the Protestant work ethic. You know, you've talked about that a lot. Maybe we could do an episode on that today.
Sure. Before we do, I wanted to let you know about a new segment that we're introducing. It's called the secret word.
So every day, Ryan or myself are going to have a word. It's, it's, it's coming from Webster's dictionary word of the day. So it's not going to be like the and of a pumpkin, the pumpkin. No, it'll be, it'll be a very esoteric word, but esoteric is not the word. So it's going to be a word that or is it? Yeah.
But, but our goal, Dr. Shaw is to try to slide that word into the conversation and not have you notice. Okay. So if you notice it, there's a buzzer right there at your, at your right hand. And so it'll have this sound. Yup. That'll be the sound. Okay.
That'll let us know that the jig is up. Right. That you have caught on and you have found the secret. You know, without this button, I used to do that very thing that you're saying, really? Cause there's a book out there, 30 days to a better vocabulary. This was back in college that we had to read for our grammar class. And so each day you memorize like 20, 30 words. And I tried, it was, I just could not stick with it. And the goal was you have to, you have to interject those words in a regular conversation.
And I would do that. And you could, you could see, you know, all of a sudden hear words like a cacophony. Yeah.
That might be one of the words. I mean, it's like a cacophony of a lot of things happening. Right.
People are like, huh, cacophony. Yeah. Okay. It is like that. I think. Yeah. So smorgasbord. You know, this is very just esoteric.
Frankly, it's shallow and superfluous. Of course. Of course. So that is the, that is the game is we are trying to every single day, we're going to try to sneak that secret word. And then I catch it. I do this.
You just call it out and then, and then whoever. Okay. That's all right. Okay. Trust me. Now we both have, you're the only one that doesn't have have sound effects, but I'm telling you, you're going to get addicted.
I'll put you some more sounds on there if you want to. All right. So Protestant work ethic. What do you mean when you talk about that? Protestant work ethic.
It's something that was part of the life of the pilgrims, part of the life of people who are coming from a Puritan reform background where work is done under the glory of God. Right. Right.
Okay. So they would, they would tell each other, tell themselves that when I get up and I do this work, I'm not doing it for the man. I'm not doing it for this person or whatever. I'm doing it unto God. And so they, they work very hard for that purpose. It's, it's one of the things that I've really admired about you a lot and seeing the culture here at Clearview to sort of take shape is that the work that we do is not unto a specific immediate end. It's eternal work. And you told a story one time that I think really helped me out a lot. And I think it will help other people is when you were in college and you were, you know, you were on that work program and how everybody was kind of clocking out, going home, but there were others who weren't, who weren't doing that. Yeah.
That's right. I remember I had come from India and this was my first time actually working because growing up we had servants in the home. So we hardly did anything other than study. Like my job is to study. It was not like I sat around and ordered the servants, like bring me grapes and bring me food and bring me tea. It's not like that. They are there and mom and dad are paying them so that I will study.
I will, I will give my very best to education. That's the whole purpose behind it. So when I came here I remember showing up at this, at this maintenance department or it was like a yard where they had the paint crew and the carpentry and, and they had mechanical works going on. The mechanics were there. I mean, it's a lot, a lot of different departments were there in this big yard and I decided to work paint crew because I felt like, I mean, how hard is it to paint? And I remember them putting me up on this ladder, cleaning the gutters on this, this, this building, which was actually a classroom.
I didn't know that. I'm thinking to myself, just about a week ago, just about a week ago, I was at home in India and just living the life. You know, just a month ago I was planning on coming to America.
Man, it's going to be such a great life. About six months ago I was studying for my pre-medical test. I didn't realize the time frame was that short where it's like within a week of leaving home, you were up there cleaning gutters. That's insane. Yeah. It was not even a week. I arrived, okay.
I arrived in Atlanta airport on, I believe it was Friday night or Saturday night. I'm not quite sure. And by Monday morning I was on the ladder. Wow. Yeah. And I'm like, this is crazy. World completely changed.
I didn't know that. Did you know what you were doing when you were up there? Like was the work pretty easy? No, I had no idea what, what I was doing because they, they, they said, you need to clean all the gutters. We're going to paint the gutters, blah, blah, blah. So I'm like gutters.
Okay. What is a gutters? Gutters I knew were the gutters side of the street.
Yeah. We didn't have gutters. Yes, we did have gutters, but I didn't pay attention to those things.
I'm sure you didn't. Not every house has had a gutter. Yeah, that's true. That's a good point. So here we were, I was standing up there and I'm like, this was a mistake.
I did not come to America to clean gutters. And then working with the paint crew, you know, a few, few days later I am working away with a bunch of guys and there were, there were guys there who would really take this very seriously. And I remember thinking five o'clock, I'm going home, I'm going back to the room, quickly wash my hands, change my clothes, head to the cafeteria, eat, and then I don't know, watch TV because this is summertime, school hasn't started yet. And there were guys there who would keep on working and we were told five o'clock you clock out and go home unless you have been approved, unless you were a supervisor or something of that capacity that you have given yourself permission to do over time. So I'm like, it's five o'clock. I'm getting in the work truck and we're driving back to the yard. I'm going to clock out, make my way back.
And they're over there working away. And I'm like, why? And their answer was it because we got, we want to make sure it's right. It's a mind shift. I like that. And I love that story because I think I was at one point in my life, one of those guys where it's like, I, unless I really truly care about this, I'm just going to leave it for someone else is going to get it.
You know, I don't have to pay the price for it being wrong. Yeah. Yeah. But learning to care. I mean, that's, that's the big thing. Learning to see, you know, it's not just that the job gets done, but that the job gets done well, that it gets done right.
That matters. That's, that's a value that is instilled that you've instilled in us. I'm working here and making sure things are not just done but done with excellence. Growing up, I saw, uh, my dad like that.
I mean, he would do it right. Like our church was, I mean, our church growing up could be put at par with any church around here. Now, of course they didn't have the most advanced technology, but we had the best technology available. We had speakers, we had overhead projectors, we had microphones that even churches in Bombay didn't have because my dad went out there and he got them and used them. And so a lot of things dad did was, was top notch, but that does not mean everybody in India did that.
True. You told me something once that kind of shook the way I thought about ministry and I think work in general and people in the world. You told me once that a lot of people, not everybody of course, but a lot of people who go into ministry do it because they think it's an easy life. Oh, it's an easy job and it's not real work.
A hundred percent. You know what I mean? We, I see that when I have to interview people for a job and they have this mindset, okay, so I'm going to chill and I'm going to talk to people about, hey man, what's going on?
What's going on with your life? And I tell them, no, you have to get the bulletins ready. You may have to make a visit.
You may have to make phone calls. Oh, by the way, there's an event happening tonight at six o'clock. Get, you know, we have to clean up the toilets. You got to provide food for it. You got to provide ice. You got to provide drinks. Yes.
That's what we have to do. Yeah. And that is shocking because they expect working in church means I just walk around and just pour my life into people. Yeah. This sage wisdom, just walking through the hallways, kind of like this eccentric entity, just like I'm ready to impart this wisdom upon you.
Also are a business that is open on business week. And I think it makes people uncomfortable to talk about church as a business. It does.
It does. They, they think that the two are are separate from one another. Well, business feels secular.
It feels cold. Well, because if it's a business, then, then automatically my goal must be making money. Yeah.
Yeah. Working hard for, for God's kingdom. To me, that's one of the most rewarding things I've ever done in my life. There's nothing more rewarding than seeing the impact on a Sunday morning that all the work that you've put into it in the week. I mean, even think about your sermons, like how much does it take to write out a sermon every single week?
And it has to be different and it has to be able to change somebody's life. Yeah. That's hard work. Or at least the way I see it, it should be a resource on the blog that people can access anytime from anywhere that has the capability to get on the internet and download, of course. But they should be able to access it anytime, anywhere, and know that what they're accessing is rock solid, right? Is biblically rock solid, informationally it's rock solid. It is not only accurate historically, but it's also relevant. I want to make sure that content is good. I don't want to plagiarize. So I make sure I put, I don't put like footnotes like a research paper, but I'll have books and resources mentioned in there that people can go back and say, oh yeah, yeah, I can, I guess he got this information from here.
So I can, if I wanted this, I can go to my library if it's an older book or I can go on Amazon and buy it. Yeah. So, and how much do you charge for people to go onto your blog? Like zero? Yeah, like zero dollars? Like that's all free, right? It's free. It's all free.
A hundred percent. So that's what I'm saying. People are always like, you know, the churches, you run it like a business.
You're just interested in money. It's like, what do we charge here at the church? Right.
Donuts and coffee on Sunday morning. That's, and the books and the resource center. That's about it.
We ask people to give because if you're satisfied with what God is doing, then give. Right. Right. And support the ministry.
Right. Give your tithes and offerings. It's so funny. I mean, it's not really, it used to bother me, but now I just find it funny when people say, so what do y'all do all week? Y'all just kind of sit around, just talk about Jesus.
They think working in ministry is like a eight hour Bible study every single day. Yeah. Because that's the typical church because, and I believe this happened over the past 150 years where church has been relegated, relegated to the outskirts of society. Like they're there, but they're not essential anymore.
Right. And we saw that in 2020 when the church, churches were told to shut down because they're not essential. And we had foolish Christians who told us, Hey, now, you know, essential. And I said, right. Church is essential.
You know what I mean? This is not. I said, yes it is.
Church is essential. It's what you make of it. Right. Right. Right.
It's important. But I mean, you know what I'm saying? Yeah.
Because like, what are you saying? Yeah. But you will, you will drag your behind to Walmart and you are even in the line at KFC.
That's okay. That's essential for you. And for some of you shouldn't be, you're at the ABC store stocking up just in case everything shuts down.
At least you'll have your liquor. So my question is the church is not essential, but all these things are. Yeah. No, I think it showed where people, what people truly feel about church, what church is.
I mean, for some people, it's just nonsense, just pallor that's tossed back and forth between people. But in reality, it's so, I was trying really hard to get that in there. I was trying really hard. You smiled.
No, no, no, no. The word since we talked about this word already. I saw that. I was like, we talked about this word recently.
We brought up this segment off Mike. What is pallor? Pallor is like nonsense, like idle talk. Unimportant, meaningless or idle talk. My point, even though I was trying to work that in there, my point remains like people believe that church is just nonsense.
Like it's just kind of get together for our little social thing, our pallor, our nonsense that we chitchat back and forth. But we know, and hopefully, you know, those who are listening know that church is so much deeper. It is essential because people's eternal destinies are on the line. It should be the center of the community. And my challenge to all these pastors and church leaders are you want the church to grow, make it the center, which means things cannot happen in the community without them saying, Hey, where is, where is the, where is so-and-so church? That's right.
That's right. Make sure we invite them, make sure we include them. And that does not happen by you just being boisterous and saying, Hey, we better be included. It happens when you open your pocket books and begin to serve your community. You begin to do things that will number one, further the gospel of Jesus Christ, but also help people in need. What would you say to someone who's on a church team? And it's like, I'm bought in, I understand, but the culture here is not that way. My pastor may not even feel that way.
My, the rest of the staff doesn't feel that way. I'm the only one staying late, putting in the sacrifice, making this effort. What would I do? I would say begin by number one, you be faithful. A person has to be faithful and raise the standards, raise the standard of what you do, whether it's music, raise the standard, children's ministry, raise the standard. Don't do things. If you're Sunday school teacher, don't prepare your lesson on Saturday evening at 10 o'clock or eight o'clock, you should be prepping and planning and getting things ready days in advance.
If it's five people in that classroom or one person, you should prepare. My dad told me that years ago and what a valuable piece of advice. He said, preach like you're preaching to 5,000 people. And at first I was, I didn't want to hear that because I wanted to hear, that's right, son, I'm sorry, you have to go through this and nobody's listening to you. And this is a small church and an old church and kind of a discouraging ministry, but instead he was telling me, give your very best and you're not doing that right now. That changed me a lot.
So now if it's a hundred people there or a thousand people there or one person there, I'm going to prepare as if it's going to be impactful because you never know what that person or somebody else joins in or what that person goes and tells someone else that will impact the church, impact ministry, impact the kingdom of God. Great point. I love it. Amen.
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Absolutely. 30 Days of Praying for America by Dr. Abaddon Shah and Nicole Shah as well. Election Day is coming. It's not too late.
You haven't put it off too late. Make sure you pick up this book. It's got great, great daily devotionals to heal our nation. Also our debut album, Heaven Here and Now is available right now on iTunes, Spotify, and anywhere digital music is sold. Pick it up. We're working on getting those songs on CCLI to further benefit your church and your music ministries as well.
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