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We're getting there. You kind of got some bass in your voice, Darth Vader. A little bass in my voice. Can you go, can you go, baby?
Oh my gosh, I burst. Excuse me. Hold on. Here we go.
Baby, lock them doors and turn the lights down low. Y'all didn't know he could do that, huh? Y'all thought he was fronting on y'all with that high voice, man. Rankin, hey, look, even when you're not sick, Ryan can hit some bass. I'm not going to lie to you. It's weird.
It don't sound like he's got a bass voice, but Ryan can hit some bass. I got a decent range. Quick question for you. Yes. Oh, no. I fear that the answer is yes.
Ooh, Urkel style. All right, so this is the second one of our show. It's called Did I Do That, where we recount a story that maybe we're a little bit embarrassed about. Maybe we're a little bit, did I do that?
Did I really do that? This comes to you from when I was in high school. Story time, right?
Ooh, okay. I was in high school. I was like 16, 17. I was sort of a dork. I was sort of a- Same.
I don't want to say loser, because I did have friends, but I wasn't like a social popular guy. I was just kind of dorky. But in a dorky way, it was like when a dorkable was just coming on the scene.
You know what I mean? So it wasn't like dorks. Back in the 80s, 90s, dorks were like, you don't want to be that.
Kind of mid-2000s, like I graduated in 2010, a dorkable was just starting to appear. So it was like, you're a dorky, but that's kind of cute. But you're kind of charming.
Yeah, yeah. But all that to say, all dorks have something. Some dorks are knife guys, like they have a knife collection. Some dorks are like, they're super into, you know, whatever. All those teenage boys, they're into that.
A lot of them are like knives, daggers, blades. You know, they always go to the... Mine was fire. We would light fires. We lit stuff on fire. We would light ourselves on fire. We did that.
Hold on. You light yourself on fire? Many times.
Many times. We would take Axe body spray, and we'd spray symbol, like the Superman symbol, angel wings. We'd spray stuff on our chest, on our pants, on our back. And we'd light it up, and it would, oh dude, I'm on fire. And we'd pat it out.
We just were obsessed with that. One of the times we lit, we took a Chef Boyardee can, and we rinsed it out, and we sprayed a ton of hairspray in it. Like lit it up with hairspray, lit it, and we'd go vroom, and it would like come up out of the can.
Oh dude, it almost got me in the face. So one time we were burning a pile of leaves, right? We had a big pile of leaves in my friend's backyard. I'm not going to say this friend's name, because I don't want to implicate him. Names have been changed. His name was B. Duberson.
How about that? His name was B. Duberson. That's a fake name. That's what we're calling it.
B. Duberson. We were at B. Duberson's house, and we lit up a bunch of leaves in a big pile. It got out of control.
It was a dry, cool day, and that wind took it away. Which is not when you want to burn leaves. But we were doing this thing where we were burning the leaves, we were seeing how big it could get before we'd get scared and stomp it out. It got big to the point where we couldn't stomp it out, and it caught a nearby tree on fire. Now, B. Duberson's house was woods adjacent, if you know what I mean. So, fire, as you know, is not just going to burn up one tree. It's going to burn up two trees. Soon, too big, and these weren't trees like big, tall, wooded trees. These were like little shrubby trees, but it was right next to big, and we could, there was four of us, we couldn't get this fire out. I thought I was going to prison. I thought I was going to jail.
We had different high school experiences. I was going to say, did you ever light a fire and lose control of it rapidly? No, no, no, no. We didn't ever do anything like that.
No, there wasn't any fire burning. But we did stuff like kind of push the envelope, teenage stuff. We did that.
One of the biggest things we did, which the cops came, but we didn't get in trouble for it. I don't know why we decided this, but my friends and I, I was a theater kid in high school. So, theater kids are nerdy, but there's like a band of us, so there's strength in numbers. I like theater kids because theater kids are uncool, and they lean into it. Yeah, you just embrace it because you have to. If you make fun of yourself, then no one else, no one else can. So, theater kids among themselves are all like gods.
They're just, they're elite. Yeah. You just hype each other up. So, we decided one night we were hanging out and then we, we were, we wound up through a series of events, which if you, I mean, you knew, I know, you know, from the teenage years, we were in a grocery store parking lot at one 30 in the morning, playing Frisbee and blasting in sync. Yeah, in sync.
Yup. I'd have been on board. If you'd said Blink-182, I'd be like, yeah, that's how it is.
No, it was boy bands. We were blasting in sync. And the cops pulled up and they're like, hey guys, everything okay? Like, yes, sir, we're, we're fine.
We'll go. I'm sorry. We were just, we were just hanging out. No, no problem. We just want to make sure.
Do you remember what parking lot? Oh, a hundred percent. Yeah. But you don't want to say?
No. Okay. That's fine. That's fine. It was around the corner from where I grew up.
Okay. But it was, yeah, it was, we were just in the parking lot at one 30 in the morning playing Frisbee. It was like high school juniors and seniors. And we thought it was the most normal thing in the world. Yeah, we did that.
It was the cops were like, hey guys, it's one 30 in the morning, so maybe let's turn the volume down. Yeah, I got it. Yes, sir. I'm sorry.
We'll go. They were going to let you stay? Yeah, they didn't care. But, but you got to turn the, okay, that's fine. That's fine. Yeah. But we did pack it in and head home.
Yeah. That sounds familiar, man. Those are, those were fun years, man. Those are fun years when you just do dumb stuff and you don't even have any reason for it. And then back, I'm like, why on earth did we do that? What, what was fun about that? But in the moment you're like, this is the greatest idea we have ever had.
Absolutely. We're going to go to a Taco Bell parking lot and just hang out and stinging someone's shirt is going to end up off. We did this thing where we did, we only did a couple of times, but we would bring, each of us would bring $20 and we would go shopping for like a total outfit at Goodwill. And the more like ridiculous we can make it, the better.
And so then we would buy those clothes, wear those clothes, and then I'll go out dinner together. Oh, that's pretty funny. That's pretty stinking funny. Y'all were creative, man. We just lit stuff on fire. Yeah.
That's theater kids. Was Elizabeth part of this group? No.
Your wife? Not really. No. Cause we were, we were two years apart in high school, so she'd already graduated when I... Oh, I got you. That's right.
You were dating a college girl. I was. Yeah. That's pretty cool. Yeah. That's pretty cool.
What were some of y'all's teenage hijinks? That's what I want to know. Write in and let us know.
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If you have any questions or suggestions for new topics, send us a text at 252-582-5028. That's right. And we're here once again in the Clear View Today studio with Dr. Abaddon Shah, who's a PhD in New Testament textual criticism. Dr. Shah, I hate to say that you're sharing the studio with an arsonist today. Arsonist? Well, I don't believe... Arsonist in function. A possible felon.
We don't know. We were talking about stories where we were involved in childhood, maybe teenage shenanigans that just went a little bit too far. You know, did you ever find yourself in a situation when you were young where it's like, why did I put myself in this situation?
Why am I here right now? How did this get... You mean like a prank? Like a prank or like... Maybe a prank or just like you're with a group of friends and you kind of hype each other up like, this is gonna be great. This can be really fun.
But then you're in over your head and it's like, I'm in some real trouble here. Oh, wow. Wow.
I'm trying to think. Most of the time I was a good kid. I did not get in trouble.
I did not cause trouble. You know, other parents would be like, you should be more like that boy Abaddon. It was always like that.
I remember the sugar cane story, the skipping school, the sugar cane field. I thought you meant like a little boy. No, no, no. Like teenager. Like when you're kind of skirting the line between like... I feel like for us, it was like, I'm old enough to know that playing with fire is not a good idea.
I'm fully old enough, 17, 18. But we're lighting a bunch of leaves on fire and now a bunch of trees go up. That was kind of what happened. So I panicked.
So I was wondering if you ever found yourself as a teenager or just someone old enough to know better in a situation that just got out of your control really quickly. So it goes back to Christmas time. This one just came to me. This was Christmas carols. Christmas carols. And in India, you know, you have firecrackers and all of that.
I mean, that's a big deal. Now we don't usually light them in the middle of the night as we're singing. Cause Christmas carols, at least when I was growing up, was like an all night thing. You begin at nine o'clock in the evening.
All right. And you go until four or five o'clock in the morning. And people want that. They want it.
They don't want it anymore, by the way. I went back, I went back last year from my mom's sickness and then eventually it became a funeral. And I asked people, I was like, so y'all still doing the Christmas carols? Now what we do now is we start at like seven and we finish up like about 11 o'clock at night. I'm like, really? So y'all don't do that all night? Man, nobody wants to do that anymore. I'm like, what a sad thing.
And I'm so glad that I got to enjoy that period, the period of history that probably will not come back yet. Like getting in our, you know, putting on jackets and, you know, sometimes Christmas would be cold, putting on our jackets, sweaters, and then going out with a group of people and had a great time. So one time we were at this one particular person's home and this one, we'd call the adult men uncles and ladies would be aunties. So this uncle, his name was George. J.W. George. That was his name. I don't know what he stood for.
But anyways, so he, no, I'm sorry. That's a different, this guy's last name was George as well, but it was Yousuf George. So like Joseph George. And so he was a singer. He was, you know, he was leading the music and he decided to join us, join our group. And he was so tired. He was so tired. And he is sitting by the window and singing in this person's home or all singing. And some of the guys decided to wake him up by lighting a firecracker on the windowsill where he was asleep.
Oh no. And I mean, it went off. It was not a small little firecracker, like a splat.
Like a little poplar. No, it was a boom. And it was a barred window. And so all that smoke in the room and a very, very mad uncle. He was angry. He was. He was no longer in the Christmas spirit.
Christmas spirit. He got up and he walked out there. And of course everybody ran off. They were part of the group.
So it's not hard to figure out who did that. He was mad. He could not have here anymore.
Yeah, no, he was gone. Christmas, Christmas, Christmas past him right now. What did you get for Christmas? Huh? I got a hearing aid.
What did you say? Shout out to Uncle George. Uncle George.
Yousuf George. Yeah, yeah. That was one that came. Did he still live in you think? Oh no, no, he died. When I went back home to visit my mom, of course, and then the funeral, his daughter came and I mean, she is, you know, she's in her late fifties and she came and she had her own children who were, you know, in their twenties.
But they got all here. And I was like, so how is your mom? Oh, mom died like 25 years ago. And I'm like, oh, I'm sorry. I knew about uncle passing away.
I just didn't know about. Yeah, that's funny. Yeah, it was funny. I still remember that scene.
He's like over there. He had his chair leaning back and I'm over there across from him in this living room of this person playing that. And I sounded like, oh gosh. How old do you think you guys were?
I was probably about 13, 14 years old. And I remember going like this. Oh, he did. He did. He went out there. He said a few things that was not very Christian.
But in that moment when you have this massive atom bomb going off behind you. So here's the thing. Did your dad think it was funny? Oh, we told him, we told him and he just, he just kind of laughed and he just went off. There you go.
Yeah. But he came and complained to my dad. He says some of the young people in our church have no respect for the kids or kids.
Your dad should be like, what can hear you? The verse of the day today is coming to us from first Corinthians chapter 10 verse 24. Let no one seek his own, but each one the other's wellbeing. The someone should have read that to the kids. They were not looking after uncles. Somebody should have read this verse before. Poor uncle George got a firecracker. The Corinthians, they really weren't interested in people's wellbeing. You know, Paul had to really kind of like this uncle, Paul had to whoop up on these guys a little bit.
Teach them how to respect. Oh my goodness. I hadn't thought about uncle. Yeah.
Yeah. He would have definitely said, you know, right there, you should have thought of my ears. I can't out here. I lost out my ear.
This is not living out first Corinthians. I like your sticker. My friend. Thank you. I voted sticker.
Oh, very nice. We did some early voting and this voting or early voting or voting itself was very special because it was not just me and Nicole. Cause usually just Nicole and I will go and vote.
Nicholas came along with us. Our son. How is this your first, is this your first election for his first election? No, it's not his first election. This is first presidential election. That's what I meant.
That's what I should have said. First presidential election. Nice.
He's voted before for the governor or, or whatever, whatever primaries, this is his first election. So, so we had to do a selfie. I love it. I love it. I have to, you got to do a momentous occasion. Oh, and it is.
And it's showing people that you're not ashamed to be out there doing what you're doing, doing your civic duty voting. You know, a lot like my friend B Duberson's yard, a lot of people would look at our nation and say, this thing is a flame right now. This is the guy.
I didn't want to say his name just in case the cops are still looking for him, but he's, he's the guy whose yard we, we set completely on. It's like, I didn't want to, I don't want to say this is the house that John and her friends almost burned down in the woods too. But I'm saying, I was just trying to get us into the segue, like much like his yard and potentially his house, people would look at our nation and say, this thing is just up in flames right now. And people I think really have written off America. It's sad.
These are Americans that are writing off their own country. Yeah. And I believe we are very close to that awakening because we have been here before.
Yeah. So yes, I am, I am a little kind of discouraged, but at the same time, I'm very, very, very hopeful because we have been at this point in history. We were there before the Revolutionary War, right in the early 1700s. We were there after the Revolutionary War. I mean, keep in mind, first rate awakening already took place, which led, I believe in many ways, it fueled the Revolutionary War. And then after the Revolutionary War, you would think that everybody would be like a born again, solid evangelical Christian.
You're like, shoot guys, this worked, let's do it. Yeah. No, it actually, morals were down. Church attendance was down.
I would say based on the best numbers, 20 to 25% was the max of our nation's population that was actually born again believers. Wow. Really?
Wow. Sometimes, you know, people try to paint the past of America as being this golden era until you get to the sixties. Like, no, that's not true.
That's not true. We've been in through some bad situation. I mean, think about it. Deism coming out of Europe had hit us very hard. I mean, Benjamin Franklin, one of our founding fathers was a deist. Unitarianism. That's why John Adams, great guy.
He's not my favorite. He was a Unitarian. Tell me Unitarianism again. It means kind of like the opposite of Trinitarianism.
One guy and that's it. Yes, that's it. John Adams did not believe in father, son, spirit. And he grew up Puritan. So now- So what is Jesus?
Jesus was a teacher to him, I guess? Yeah. Really? Yeah. Wow. So you see, so when you really examine that, you go, whoa, wait a minute.
There's a problem here. Thomas Jefferson, of course, yes, we're not sure. I would lean on the fact that towards the side that I believe he probably was a Christian. Maybe not a strong one, but I believe he was. He thrived on being different, but he was not a John Adams.
In fact, John Adams and Thomas Jefferson didn't even get along. Really? Yeah.
I say all that to say this. Yes, we've been here before. Where we are in America, this moral law, we have been there before. And so I have a lot of hope.
Yeah, absolutely. You know, I think about all the sin that we're seeing in our nation today and that does give us hope because we know that sin can't last. Sin will not be here forever.
And not only will it not be here forever, but it's not only that future redemption. It's not like it's only going to get downhill until Christ comes back. Because if that's the case, why wait? Why would I wait? Why would I continue living in this life if I thought it's only downhill from this point?
Yeah. I mean, yes, it will ultimately go downhill and Christ will come. But in the meantime, we don't know for sure. So we have to do everything possible, just like the first great awakening, second great awakening, the prayer revivals, Sam Jones, D.L. Moody, Billy Sunday, Billy Graham, all these people have come.
And what do they do? They help fan the flame of revival. They help get people excited about the gospel, get people saved. So that's what we got to do. And they were being the salt and the light of the world. They were taking the gospels to the ends of the earth.
That's what we need to do. Well, here's a passage that I want us to kind of focus on. It's chapter 24 in our book, 30 Days of Praying for Our Nation. Chapter 24 is titled Righteousness, simply titled Righteousness. And we use Proverbs 14, 34 as our baseline. It says, Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a reproach to any people. If we truly believe that the Bible is the word of God, if we truly believe that this is the manual for life and our future as a nation, as a people, as a culture, then this works.
So what is the formula? Righteousness exalts a nation. Our nation right now is not exalted.
And what is the problem? The second half of the verse tells us sin is a reproach to any people. Yeah, we've got a big, big sin problem in America. So you want to change the trajectory of our nation, then we have to deal with sin, which means we have to call sin, sin. That's why I'm talking to our Christians today.
Stop talking about abortion as being OK, or a woman's right to choose, or I don't want to infringe on other people's rights. You have to call sin, sin. If God calls abortion sin, then you got to call it sin.
And if you're wondering why or where, well, I mean, just thou shalt not kill. Yeah, it's true, because I think a lot of people are looking at policies. A lot of people are looking at legislature, and they're not seeing it as individual sin.
You know what I mean? Like, this is not abortion. It's health care. This is not a moral issue.
I'm putting that in air quotes. This is not a moral issue. This is just basic health care that women need or that people need. And so if you're taking away the individual morality out of these policies, then it's very easy to say that, yeah, of course, this is not only good, it's needed. You know, this is needed in our nation. Yeah. Let's talk about abortion for a few moments, because it's a sin.
It's a big sin. And we have been reeling under the effects of Roe v. Wade. And even though the laws have been overturned, thank you to President Trump, and bringing the law back to the states so that the states can decide, and then if the states decide we want abortion, I mean, that's the states to decide, we can keep fighting that battle.
But at least we want to have this unilateral decision by the Supreme Court that this is how it is, you just have to deal with it. Same thing was happening there in ancient Greece, in Rome. Juvenal, Juvenal was a was a writer, you know, wrote satire. He wrote that, how, as I'm paraphrasing here, how seldom a gilded bed contained a pregnant woman, because abortion was so easily available to the rich people.
Wow. How seldom a gilded bed contained a pregnant woman. What does gilded mean? Like gold, like gold plated. Like luxurious. Luxurious, yeah. Yeah, there's no pregnant woman in them because they can just do what they want. They feel like that's their opportunity, their option.
Maybe it was inconvenient. Right. Okay.
So this is Juvenal. If you want to find it, J-U-V-E-N-A-L, so he'll give you the time period in which he's talking about. Okay. So he's talking about the rich. But did you know that the poor also had abortion? I'm sure. They did.
They did. Okay. So there would be people who would go out there and fool around and somebody would get pregnant and they didn't want the child because they were just having a good time.
Guess what they would do? Have an abortion. Yeah. So that is a sin. Oh yeah.
Oh yeah. Okay. And that's not something that we in the 19th century for political purposes are abusing people's feelings and convictions. Now, this is an old problem. No, it was a sin then and it's a sin now.
The sophistication of the technology does not make what we're doing acceptable. Some of the reasons why people had abortion, maybe we can talk more about this in the future episodes. One was to cover up illicit sexual affairs. Step out of the marriage and then like, oh, you're pregnant.
Oh, we got to get rid of the baby. Sometimes it was because their bodies would change and they didn't want that. No different than today. No different. Yeah.
Yeah. Sometimes it was like Chrysostom. Remember Chrysostom, the famous pastor, he said, prostitutes, this is what he said about them. He said they had a view of drawing more money by being agreeable and an object of longing to their lovers. So because prostitutes wanted to look pretty and be able to have, they would get rid of those babies.
Get rid of it so their body wouldn't change. Yeah. Wow.
Plato and Aristotle both recommended abortion to help the state. I didn't know that. Yikes. Yeah.
To make sure that, you know, the state is taken care of and you have too many people, too many kids, it's going to mess things up. Aristotle and Plato. That's bizarre. I didn't know that. Were for abortion.
Yeah. So, I mean, I can go on and on and there were many different means of abortion, even in the ancient times. By the way, did you find out when juvenile lived? 55 AD is when he was born. So right- Shortly right after Jesus is dead.
55 to 128. So right about the time, you know, the New Testament was being written. Yeah. That's when this is. So this is not a new problem.
New Testament goes up to like 95, if you look at the book of Revelation. So yeah, he was overlapping. So right around the time.
That was his prime, yeah. So this could be chemical or mechanical. Chemical in the sense of they could take certain substances and drink them and that would- Just terminate this. Abort the baby. Just terminate the baby. Or they could take even poison, drink that poison and that would get rid of the baby. Like Celsus. Celsus talks about taking four grams of ammonia like salt and four grams of cretin, didn't need water and hedge mustard and tepid wine on an empty stomach.
And this will expel the baby. Wow. Wow.
I can't believe it. I mean, you know, people think this is just something that, you know, conservatives are today doing this. Yeah, no, they think it's a modern convenience that they're, that's being taken away from them. But the mechanical ones were really bad. I mean, they were horrible.
They had a copper needle or a spike they would use to extract the baby. Oh, gosh. And I mean, you're talking about at all ages. Yeah. Wow. Trimester.
I can't even imagine. So maybe we can talk about this a little more and to help people understand that what we're fighting for, I know there might be some people who are just like, our side fights for abortion. I guess I got a side fight side with abortion. But many of us are not doing it for that reason. We're doing it because it's a biblical conviction. There's a reason that this this one topic comes up most often is because it's such an egregious thing. You know, it's not it's not.
And I think we're we're meaning us the conservatives were wise in doing this. We're not going to call it health care. We're not going to minimize what it's actually being done because that's the way that it's been done. No, we're not going to we're not going to sugarcoat it because it is horrific.
It's terrible. And we've been given very soft, pleasant language to distract from what is actually happening. Right? Yeah. So important. So important for us to engage in this conversation. I look forward to doing that in future episodes. If you guys enjoyed today's episode, write in and let us know 252-582-5028. Or you can visit us online at ClearViewTodayShow.com.
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