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Officer Charles Scott grew up in the Central Valley of California. And from a young age, he knew he wanted to be in law enforcement. Here's Charles with his story.
So that's always a question they start with in the academy: why do you want to do this? And I was always one that didn't have an answer because it was just always something I've wanted to do. My mom has a essay I wrote in first or second grade, what do you want to be when you grow up? And it was always a police officer.
So, I mean, at this point where you get to drive fast, carry a gun, and they pay you to fight with people, sign me up.
So that's why I did it. It seemed like it was better than working in a bank or a corporate office. And yeah, it's been an amazing ride for sure. I didn't have any experience with fire or police. Looking back, I sure wish I had because there's so many opportunities in law enforcement.
All I thought, all I knew was what you saw in cops.
So that's what I wanted to do. But no, my dad grew up, we grew up, he was construction superintendent for construction company. My mom was a stay-at-home mom with us boys. Uh so yeah, it was more of uh just a a working family, no law enforcement experience at all. Yeah, I don't really know where it comes from.
You know, I'm a firm believer that you can't create leaders. Uh, leaders are born with a calling, and sure, you can do training and you can enhance your leadership skills, but I think you know, true leaders are someone that God calls into leadership. And even at a young age, I would always find myself being the class president, being the captain of the sports teams. It's hard to look back when someone says, Wow, you've done all these amazing things, and you look back and like. I'm just living my life.
You know, you don't appreciate it as anything, but that's just what I do. Charles married his high school sweetheart. and they have now been married twenty-five years. And although he was offered an athletic scholarship to college, He decided to get into law enforcement as soon as he could. Seeing what's on TV with just the cops, you put in the application, and I went through the academy.
I think my first Oral interview that I had. I wore jeans and a collared shirt and thought that that was good.
So there's a lot of learning curve as far as that whole process. You really start being evaluated from the time you submit an application.
So it's, you know, the interviews, the background checks, the personal history statement. Then you have the chief's interviews.
So it's just, it's a lot and being From a small country town in the mountains, it definitely was a learning experience for someone trying to figure this out. I was only 21 when I started this, so didn't have a whole lot of life experience, but I figured we'll figure it out on the way. After the hiring process, Charles started his career in the Central Valley. where he got in his first officer-involved shooting. Yeah, so I was at uh Chow Chilla Police Department, which is in Madera County, the Central Valley, and we got a nine one one transfer from CHP saying that there was someone outside uh that wanted to kill themselves, so they sent myself and another partner out to it.
It was really close. We actually walked from the police department to where she was supposed to be located. We turn a corner, and she's laying on her back, kind of I call it in the birthing position with her knees up, and she's pointing a gun at us between her legs, kind of down towards us. My partner and I start to separate. I start moving away from him because I want to create distance between the two of us to make her decide what she wants to do.
As I started moving away from my partner, I saw her kind of tracking me with the gun, and that's when I started firing. I fired four shots. My partner fired two shots. I actually Shot the gun, which we found out afterwards. I actually shot the gun out of her hand.
I shot her in the pocket, but she still wasn't responding like you think they should when they were getting shot.
So I thought I was missing. And that was the only time I really told myself: you know, slow down, take a deep breath. Find your sites because you're missing. And then I shot her, and I saw kind of a red spot on her clothes, and then it kind of started to grow. I knew that I had shot her because that was the blood coming out.
She called 911 herself, and it was at that time 911s always went to CHP, and then CHP would transfer them to our department. We didn't know this until after they reviewed, and even the dispatcher missed it. She actually said, I'm going to kill myself and I'm going to take as many cops with me as I can. We didn't know that until later when they reviewed the audio, and our dispatcher even missed it.
So, yeah, she called for herself. It was a suicide by cop, is what she was trying to do. The whole Incident was really surreal. I mean, you we had Smith Wesson guns where you actually had to de-cock them once they were cocked. You had to manually do it.
I don't remember doing that. I don't remember putting my gun back in my holster.
So there's some things that you just respond so quickly to your training, you don't even realize you do it. I remember thinking to myself as I'm watching her track me with her gun, telling myself, you better do it before she does. And that's what really You know, prompted me and motivated me to fire that first round. It was empowering once I started firing because then I felt like I was back in control. I was dictating the situation.
I was no longer responding to a threat. I was now trying to eliminate the threat and everything kind of slowed down. And you're listening to police officer Charles Scott tell his story he knew in the first or second grade he wanted to be a cop. We also learned about his first encounter. with someone who was armed, and who was intent on killing cops suicide by cop, it's known, by the way, in the business.
And this was exactly what he was faced with. As a young cop. And when we come back, Police Officer Charles Scott's story continues. Here on Our American Stories. Lee Habib here, and I'd like to encourage you to subscribe to Our American Stories on Apple Podcasts, the iHeartRadio app, Spotify, or wherever you get our podcasts.
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We left off after Charles had gotten in his first officer involved shooting where the woman was attempting suicide by cop. Let's return to Charles. She survived. Thankfully, I actually got to talk to her about two months later. She was doing really well.
She actually thanked us, oddly as that sounds. But I went through some counseling with the department. Really didn't affect me. My wife, when I came home after the investigation, the initial investigation, she asked, you know, how are you? You just shot someone.
I said, well, I've shot a thousand people in my mind trying to prepare myself for it.
So there really wasn't a whole lot of emotion attached to it. And really at first that's what kind of freaked me out was that I wasn't freaked out about it. But talking to the doctor kind of laid it out a little bit for me. Went back to work. I actually I got to to witness with her.
I actually prayed with her on the street. And I think that played a lot in my recovery and how I was able to to go back.
So quickly, I really didn't have any lasting effects because I think I kind of got to close that chapter with her. She didn't die, and she said, You know, I haven't had a drink of alcohol since that day. And she said, I don't intend to ever again.
So she was fortunate that I wasn't a better shot, I guess. But it all worked out. And I think that played a big part in my healing: knowing that she didn't die, and there was a purpose for it, maybe.
So there wasn't really any residual effect because of that shooting. And after that shooting is when my wife and I decided that if we were going to be doing this kind of line of work. We should be doing it in an area that we're raising our boys in a good environment where we enjoy it. Who doesn't enjoy the Central Coast?
So that's what kind of generated our desire to kind of find an agency back over here and land it at Long Poke Police Department. I had three boys at the time. Noah was about 12 when we moved over here, maybe a little younger. And then Jordan's our middle son, so he'd be about 10, maybe 11. And then our baby in the family was probably seven or eight, Zachary at the time.
So we come over and, you know, we're living at the coast. We're homeschooling our boys.
So we're going to the ocean and the beach on Tuesday at 10 o'clock in the morning, really living our best life. I was succeeding, doing really well at the department. I was a lateral, so I had a lot more experience than some of the newer guys.
So that immediately gave me some credibility at the department. I had been in a shooting. No one at the department had been in a shooting.
So again, that lends to some credibility to my abilities.
So yeah, we were doing really well. We started fostering, started trying to help kids in the foster care community. Ended up adopting.
Now we've ended up adopting three little ones through the foster care. care. Yeah, we were living as perfect of a life as I ever wanted or ever hoped for. Charles and his family were enjoying their life on the coast. Until Their whole world got turned upside down when they got terrible news about one of their children.
Noah was fif fourteen at the time. He started losing some weight. He started getting really pale, and we could start seeing some physical changes in him. He had recently bought himself Fitbit Watch and he started trying to. Walk a little bit more, run a little bit more.
So we thought maybe he was just losing some of the baby fat because he was starting to work out a little bit more. One day he walks down the stairs into the living room and my middle son Jordan says, Noah, you look like a ghost. Even your lips are white.
So, my wife took him to his pediatrician, and after some tests, probably about two months. In July of 2016, we were told that NOAA had ALL leukemia. That's acute lymphoblastic leukemia. a type of cancer of the blood and bone marrow. that affects white blood cells.
and is the most common childhood cancer. It was difficult to hear, obviously. When you spend your life protecting people and fixing problems, to hear that your son has cancer and that there's nothing that you can do to fix it was difficult. It obviously, we have such a close family with my side of the family as well as my wife, Kristen's side of the family. We're so close with all my siblings and our parents that it really affected the entire family knowing that Noah was having to go through this.
And really that July of 2016 is when we started this 16-month in my life that I wouldn't wish on on anyone. I wouldn't wish on my my worst enemy. I went from having the picture perfect life Picture perfect kids, successful in my job, to literally my life like a snow globe being turned completely upside down. In a matter of 18 months, a matter of actually 16 months, we went from my son being diagnosed. with leukemia.
Four months after that diagnosis, I'm in my first officer-involved shooting at Longpoke Police Department where a guy charges at me with a knife, and I have to shoot and kill him. That's in November of 2016. June thirtieth of twenty seventeen. My son Noah passes away from leukemia. I go back to work soon after his funeral and 363 days from my first Officer-involved shooting.
I'm involved in a second officer-involved shooting where we had to shoot and kill a subject who had just killed. Uh his Ex-girlfriend's new boyfriend.
So in literally 16 months. I went from the perfect life to my son being diagnosed. Being in an officer-involved shooting, my son dying, and then being in another officer-involved shooting. It was a time filled with unmeasurable stress. When anyone goes through difficult times, they need support.
And thankfully Charles' community rallied around his family in amazing ways. I can't speak highly more highly enough about the Central Coast and specifically Longpoke. When my son got diagnosed, at one time my chief put a ribbon on every one of our law enforcement vehicles for the department. Uh in support of NOAA. Um They would do fundraisers.
They did a fundraiser at a pizza factory in town, and there was a five-hour wait for pizzas. because the community turned out So strong in support of NOAA. They literally painted and put ribbons and balloons down the entire main street in Lompoke. For orange and black, which are the leukemia colors for the kind of cancer he had. The support was tremendous.
when when Noah was diagnosed and then obviously because we were so out there in the community. When I was involved in the shooting, my name got released and the community was amazing in supporting my family during that. Losing Noah, the community was as devastated as we were. I'll never forget two days after he passed, I had to take our younger kids to the mall in Santa Maria. to get some clothes for the funeral.
And as I'm riding the escalator going down, this woman looks at me and she immediately starts crying. And I've never seen this woman in my life. And she, when I get down to the bottom of the escalator, she hugs me and said, I'm so sorry. I was really praying for Noah. And to this day, I have no idea who she was.
But she recognized me and came up, and she was heartbroken over the loss of Noah.
So the community was just amazing in supporting Noah and my family during this difficult time. Losing a child is. It's indescribable. They don't even have a word for it. And I know why, because every part of you.
hurts And to have to deal with not only that, but going through two officer-involved shootings within a year. Um it was a very difficult time for my family and I. And you're listening to Police Officer Charles Scott's story. And what a sixteen month time period that was for him, his family, And as you could hear, the community itself, which rallied, to his support and help, not just for his family, but his extended family. But still, how did he cope?
How did he get on day to day? How did he continue to do his job? The answers to these questions and more are The story of Charles Scott continues here. on our American stories. Amazon Health AI presents painful thoughts.
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And we return to Our American Stories and to the story of Charles Scott. He's a police officer in Lompoc, California, and that's coastal California, north of Los Angeles. We left off after Charles had had the most difficult year of his life. Within sixteen months his son got sick and passed away. and he'd experienced two officer-involved shootings.
Let's return to Charles Scott.
So looking back at that 16 months, after the first shooting, I went to speak with our doctor that was basically contracted with our agency. I really, I felt okay about that. I didn't have a whole lot of baggage because of that. I mean, it was difficult. I took someone's life, so it was difficult.
But slowly it just started kind of adding up and piling up. You know, my son was diagnosed. We were dealing with my son's treatment. Then I had my first shooting, and then my son passed away. And nobody really knows what to tell, say to you.
You know, if you haven't had a child die, you can say what you can, but nobody really knows what you're going through.
So then the second shooting, and I'll never forget, and this kind of will illustrate just how dark of a place I was in when. The second shooting, when he started shooting at my sergeant, I remember getting out of my car. and thinking to myself, Today I'm going to see Noah, and that was my son's name that passed away. And there was no fear, there was no sadness. I didn't even think about my wife or my other kids.
It was just, I missed Noah.
So much that That's what I was excited about. And after it was all said and done, and I wasn't hurt or wasn't killed. I remember being so angry at that guy. Not for me having to kill him. but because he couldn't kill me.
'Cause that's how how dark it was for me. I just missed my son so much that I was mad. And that's when I really identified that I was in a dark spot. I have a loving wife. I have at that time I had four other kids.
That needed me as a dad, but it was so dark that all I cared about was seeing my son again. After that shooting, Uh they sent me Are they recommended? That I speak to the doctor again. He wasn't real responsive. He was from LA and it was always.
Changing his schedule, and it just didn't work really well. The last. session I had with him, for he had to do it over phone. And that's when he tells me, Well, I think you need to really think about what you're passionate about because I don't ever see you going back into law enforcement. Which was like a dagger in my heart because that's all I really knew.
That's all I was really good at. And now, this doctor is telling me in the darkest time of my life that he's gonna take something else away from me. I went and I spoke to my chief. In desperation, and said, This is not working. He wants to retire me.
And You know, at that time I wasn't even 40 years old yet. And I said, I don't know anything else. My chief. And my captain, who has now been promoted to my current chief, they were good enough to say: you know, if you know somebody or if you know a program that you need to reach out to. do it and we'll make sure that it gets covered, paid for, whatever it may be.
And that's when Mike McGrew, co-founder, CEO, and executive director of 911 Addies International, came into the picture. Mike McGrew had reached out to me. I don't know how he knew our story. Mike retired from Santa Barbara PD as a sergeant, and Santa Barbara PD was amazing when my son was sick in Santa Barbara. They would bring us food, they would have.
us call them if we needed anything and they would come and bring stuff over while they were on duty.
So they just really took care of my son and my family my wife. My wife would spend sometimes 60 days straight at the hospital with Noah. And Santa Barbara Pete made it a point to come by and check on us.
So I'm assuming that that's how Mike found out about. Me and our story. I was in such a dark place, I didn't even. really register how I first made contact with Mike or the Ad Ease program, but Mike had suggested the Ad Ease program and told me a little bit about it. and I reached out to them, went and spoke to doctor Barb.
Barbara, she was great. I spent probably two, maybe three months. going down there and seeing her at least once a week. She was Amazing. Mike would come in and we would cry together, we would pray together.
He was just a huge support. And the Add Ease program was just, it was so easy. It was easy to use. It was easy to access. It was definitely a life vest or.
a light turned on in a very dark spot in my life. 911 Addi's International was exactly what Charles needed to return to the career he loved so much. My goal was to get well enough. to return to the streets and be a police officer. I didn't know what that looked like.
Remember I was going in. Having already been told by a medical professional that I needed to retire.
So I wasn't trying to find.
Someone just to say, yeah, go back to work, we'll clear you, because that's not what they do. I had to be safe enough, I had to be secure enough, I had to be established in my heart that I could do the job again. And that's what the Ad Ease program did, is that it allowed me to work through what I was dealing with, to be able to have the confidence to return to the streets. It's been five years or four years since my son passed away. We're coming up on November that it'll be five years, the shooting, the first shooting.
And I'm successful in my job. I'm on the sergeant's list. I've returned to work. And this is something that I was told I would never be able to do again. Uh we've since Adopted another daughter, and my wife and I are strong.
And have a strong foundation. I have a great relationship with my kids. I don't have an alcohol abuse problem. I don't even drink. And those are all pitfalls when someone goes through critical incidents that They do some self-harm stuff and through the Ad Ease program I was given the tools to evo avoid such activity and to not be so self-destructive.
He now has the desire to help other young officers deal with their own mental health problems. The culture of law enforcement is changing so much that there's so much stress put on officers. And it seems like it's changing every day. I've only been doing it for almost 16 years, and I never thought I would get to the point where I would say, you know, when I was a young officer. But unfortunately, we're there.
So these. Critical incidences are going to happen, and I tell The young guys that I have a chance to mentor with, I tell them that if you've created a 30-year career, And You've been promoted every time. You've got all the specialties. You've got all the awards. You've got all the accolades that you could ever have as a professional law enforcement.
But when you pull into the driveway, your wife or your kids say to themselves, crap, dad's home. Then you have failed. in this career. Because when it's all over, the only thing that you're gonna have is your family. And you owe it to yourself, and you owe it to them to take care of your mental health.
There is such a stigma about mental health and law enforcement. I cannot say enough good things about the Ad Ease program. I know without a doubt, if I were to get in another critical incident, that my first outreach would be to someone at the Ad Ease program. And a great job is always by faith on the production of the piece. And a special thanks to Officer Charles Scott with opening up.
It's hard for cops. And first responders to talk about themselves and their problems. They're too busy taking care of others. and that there's a place like 911 Eddie's International there to help. All the first responders, and again, the confidentiality is the key.
You can learn more about 911 Eddie's International by going to 911AEI.org. I love what he said about them and allowed me to get the confidence to go back to work. to go back to the streets to the job I loved. Charles Scott's story here on Our American Stories. Hot take.
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