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Happy Wednesday. I'm not well-traveled. I'm not a well-traveled man. I mean, you've been out of the country a couple of times at this point. A couple of times, yeah. Both to Israel.
Sure. But one thing I will tell you that I've really fallen in love with is continental breakfast. So good. It hits every time.
It hits every time. I don't know if that's me just getting older and starting to care about things like that, because when I was a teenager, I was like, I don't care about continental. I'm just sleeping in as long as I can. But now it's like I go to a hotel, I wake up, and I'm kind of excited. I'm like, I want to go down to breakfast. Go down there, make you a waffle, get you some coffee, a little cereal in a little bowl.
Yeah, love that. And we stayed in, Dr. Shah and myself and a lot of the Clearview staff, we went to D.C. this past week to do some filming, right? And so we stayed in the hotel. This one was weird because it was like the continental breakfast straight up was not free.
It was not continental. It was just like we were eating and they were like, yeah, here's your bill, sir. I was like, what?
What is that? I knew I was paying for this. I just didn't know I was paying for it separate. Like, the whole point of having a continental breakfast is you trick people into thinking it's free, but you include it in the bill and then I get to get up and pretend like I'm having a free breakfast.
That's why I come down here. So all that to say, continental breakfast is good. One thing I want to know, do hotels do continental lunch and dinners?
And if they did, would you even want that? Because it seems like part of the allure of traveling is going out to eat. But you never go out to eat for breakfast and then go eat dinner at the hotel.
Right. If the hotel had a continental dinner, would you eat it? Would you do that? Maybe. I don't know. Maybe. It depends on what it is. And I feel like there are some, there are some hotels that have like a restaurant in there and that's a, that's a little bit different. It's not continental at that point, which it sounds like this breakfast wasn't either.
If it was included, I might. At least one night. Yeah. But I mean, yeah, kind of the thing is you go out to eat and then you come back to the hotel at the end of the day. You're right. Right.
Otherwise you're coming back to the hotel and either you're eating dinner at eight or nine or whatever time you get back to the hotel or you're coming back to the hotel at like five thirty. Yeah. Yeah. Which feels wrong.
It feels kind of weird. Yeah. I might would do it. In Israel, we had, a lot of our dinners were in the hotel because it turns out that the hotel restaurants had better Mediterranean food than a lot of the restaurants out there on the streets. Yeah. So for those, we would eat breakfast and dinner in the hotel. I mean, we still went out to eat, but a lot of the hotels, especially the King David Hotel in Jerusalem, let me tell you. Oh my goodness.
Really? Some of the best food, like, like just best food I've ever had in my life. It hit every time. I ate until I felt sick, but I was like, if I stop, I won't be eating it anymore. So I got to keep going.
Exactly. I remember we went to Greece. We were at the hotel.
Every one of them was incredible. But the hotel in Athens specifically was like the top floor was breakfast. And so you would go up and you would get your plate of food and they had everything you can imagine.
I mean, eggs, pastries, meats, cheeses, fruit. I mean, it was, oh man, it was so good. And then you went and you sat and you ate outside. You didn't have to, but you could eat outside and look out over the city at Athens.
You see the Parthenon out there. I was like, is this real life? Is this a dream? That little, that gentle summer breeze just lifting your hair and your neck. Yeah, that's beautiful. That's worth paying for. It was beautiful.
I love it. But yeah, there was no dinner. No dinner, but that was breakfast. That was breakfast.
That's a good way to start your day, man. Yeah. Would you eat continental dinner in a hotel? Continental, hotel, lunch and dinner. Would you eat it? Yeah, continental supper. Yeah, continental supper. Write in and let us know.
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And we're here once again in the Clearview Today studio with Dr. Abbadon Shaw, who is a PhD in New Testament Textual Criticism, professor at Carolina University, author, full-time pastor, and the host of today's show, Dr. Shaw Continental Breakfasts. We all love them. It's all part of the hotel-going experience. When we go out, when we travel, going out to eat for supper or dinner is a big thing. I don't even know if hotels do continental dinners, but would you do it? Or do you feel like that defeats the purpose of traveling? No, I do. Yes, yes.
You've done them with me, right? The only place I can think of is Israel, where they had it in the hotel. That's right. That's what you're talking about, where we were staying overseas and meals were included in the hotel stay.
In that case... So some places they were not included, but they were so good, they were like, if we go outside, we're going to get second-class food. We can stay here in a four to five-star hotel. And they have this massive, massive dining area with Asian food, Middle Eastern food, Mediterranean food, American food. I'm staying there. So it just always depends on the hotel. Israel hotels, I'll take it.
We said that up top. The Israel hotels, a lot of the hotel food was better than some of the food that we found out there. But I'm wondering, like in America, if you have continental breakfast, copy and paste that, it's just like... Oh, like the same level?
Same level, yeah. Like eggs out of a can kind of thing? Yeah, if they did that for dinner. And they'd have like spam for dinner. Not doing that for dinner. Even like a can of Chef Boyardee. Yeah, oh gross. Ramen noodles up there. Let's go out and get McDonald's at that point. Well, there you go.
Asked and answered. The rest of the day today is coming to us from Daniel chapter 9, verse 18. Daniel or Daniel? Daniel. Daniel. Daniel, chapter 9, verse 18.
Oh my God, incline your ear and hear. Open your ears and see our desolations and the city which is called by your name. For we do not present our supplications before you because of our righteous deeds, but because of your great mercies. Feels like we're living that right now. That's right. Lord, just see what our country is coming to, see what our land is coming to and hear us.
I love that ending too. We do not present our supplications before you because of our righteous deeds, but because of your great mercies. God in his mercy allows us to come to him and bring our concerns and desires before him. That's right. It's because of his nature of grace and mercy towards us that we can come to him not because we earned the right or it's a right.
We heard a lot of that at the presidential debate a few nights back. You know, it's not your privilege. It's your right. Like, okay, whatever.
Right. And that's unfortunately the language that our society is taking on and that's starting to seep into the church. You know, we talked about this yesterday.
We talked about how worship and maybe worship isn't even the right word, but the presentation at a church that we looked at, it actually, believe it or not, a lot of people wrote in with responses and a lot of people had a lot of feelings on it. I'm going to pick our favorite one. You want to just do one more for old time's sake, Ryan? You want to just hang on here? Why don't you lead the mail time? All right, I'll lead mail time.
I'm a blues, blues kid. I'll back you up. You lead the mail time. It's coming from somewhere. Here's the mail. It never fails. It makes me want to wag my tail.
When it comes I want to wail mail. I'm going to just trust that that recorded. Blues could never. Blues could do.
I can too. This is from Terry M. What do you think the M stands for? Marsupial. Terry Marsupial.
Moon? No, no, no, no, no. Hey guys, love the yesterday's episodes, but I also love Garth Brooks, LOL. Let me just pause and time out. Most of the text messages that I got were telling me that Friends in Low Places is not Tim M. Ross. Yes, it got me because I like Garth Brooks. I think he's one of the best country singers in our, I would say, I mean, across the board. But when you said that, I was like, because I was about to say it's like, yeah Garth, but the moment I could even open my mouth, they're like, Oh, Tim McGraw. And I said it like five times. I'm like, Tim McGraw.
Was that a remake? Maybe it's Tim McGraw. All these years I thought it was Garth Brooks. We got a lot of texts. A lot of them were telling me that it was by Garth Brooks.
Yes, I revealed my hand. I'm not a huge country music fan. I didn't mean to disrespect nobody out there, least of all Garth Brooks. So hey guys, so thank you, Terry Marsupial.
Hey guys, loved yesterday's episodes, but I also love Garth Brooks, LOL. Not saying it belongs in church though, but it did get me to thinking, what do you guys think about Christians drinking? I know Jesus drank wine, so it can't be a sin to drink, but growing up, most Christians I ever talked to were staunchly against it. Is it a sin to drink alcohol?
Thanks, Terry Marsupial. How do you know Jesus drank wine? I guess they're talking about the cup of the new wine, where he's celebrating the Passover and they're taking that to mean, well, he was just drank. Plus he hung out with tax collectors and prostitutes, so he was just drinking away because he was accused of being a wine bibber or a glutton. Or they'll say like he changed water into wine, so he wouldn't lead people to sin. That's right.
I disagree with that. I don't think that's really what is happening here. I think he was doing more in line with Old Testament prophecies about the coming of Jesus Christ, that when he would come, the Messiah would come, it would be a celebration. And the best way they could describe the celebration is when people are drunk with wine, I mean, it's a party. He said that's what it's going to be when the Messiah comes. So when he does these miracles or he talks about the wine, it's more in that context rather than, hey, guys, just to let you know, the Bible allows you to drink.
I don't think it has anything to do with that. You know, you get a lot of these questions where it's like, can I drink? Is it okay if I do this?
How far can I go? Because I know being drunk is a sin. Most people would say, like, if you just get blackout plastered or whatever, you're falling out in the street, that's a sin. You don't want to do that. But how far can I tow the line, Pastor?
How far am I allowed to do it? Because I know I've got to be allowed to do it. Right. I say you're not allowed to do it all. You say why? Because in the Old Testament, the priests and the Levites were not allowed to drink.
Okay. That was the common people could drink. The priests and the Levites were not allowed to drink forbidden to drink because you're supposed to be sober.
You're supposed to know where your people are. And if you are drunk and it even talks about that, you cannot discern your sense of discernment becomes dull and you're not able to minister to people. Now, in the New Testament, we're no longer waiting for the Levites and the priests from the temple. We are a kingdom of priests and a holy nation. We are the ones who are the Levites and the priests.
So guess what? We don't drink. And the Bible even talks about do not be drunk with wine, which is dissipation, but be filled with the Holy Spirit. So don't be drunk with wine. So rather than rather than lowering the standard, God has actually raised the standards for believers in the New Testament for the church. The standard is higher. So for us to lower the standard, because in the Old Testament, there were references to drinking or Jesus turned water into wine or Paul tells Timothy, take a little bit of it for your stomach. You're taking that to give yourselves license to drink.
It's not only hermeneutically an error, but also theologically, it goes against who we are called to be. You know, I've been at weddings for so many times. I mean, I've done so many weddings and people come talk to me after the wedding. And if there's a wedding where there's a bar or whatever, people will come talk to me and they're like super friendly.
I mean, just all over. I love the message. And I go, where is the church? And they're going on and on. And once I know they're drinking, I'll talk to them, but it's no longer. It's not the same. Who am I talking to?
Who am I talking to? It's not a real conversation to be had. Right.
Yeah. Because this person tomorrow may not even talk to me. But today, all their inhibitions are gone. Their fear is lowered. That's why people drink.
That's how they have a good time is wine tends to bring down those insecurities and it gives a sense of false confidence. It's like, look, I'm here. Ten feet tall and bulletproof. Travis Tritt, right? Yeah. Sounds like it. Yeah. Yeah.
Ten feet tall. I'm not going to deign to Cosmograph. Not Tim McGraw. It might have been Garth Brooks, that one. I don't know. Shoot.
No, it's Travis Tritt. So, yeah, but that's not the real you. Right. And then for us to talk about, well, in the Middle Ages or in Europe, it's not a big deal. Okay, that's fine if Europe is not a big deal, but it should be. Yeah, it should be. I feel like anytime you adopt this mindset of how close can I get to this without actually sinning?
Yeah. I feel like that's even a problematic stance to take. I feel like we just don't do it with many other things. Like we don't do this with pornography. We don't do this with lying or adultery.
We don't seal it. How close can I get? But I'm still allowed to. I just can't go all the way.
You know what I mean? I feel like we know even though we do those things, we acknowledge that's a sin and I shouldn't do it. But we don't fight for our right. Like you said, we don't fight for our right to be able to do it as Christians.
And why this? Why drinking of all things? Yeah, it's part of the American culture because of Europe. That's kind of seeped in here for the centuries. And, you know, the prohibition and all that, the era where alcohol was not allowed and so people, you know, had those speakeasies and they would hide and do these things.
And then, of course, on the Appalachian Trail, you had all the moonshiners running alcohol back and forth and all that. You know, it's like a sense of bravado. You know, I get to do this and this is my birthright. And so it's become kind of this unhealthy part of our American culture. And I don't think it's necessary.
I don't think it's necessary. I would caution Christians to this because one thing I see is you always see, everybody sorts themselves into categories. You know what I mean? Like you always see the Christians, they make it a big deal.
Like they'll post, they'll go out to dinner and have a glass of wine and then post pictures of it as almost a statement of, hey, I know everybody knows I'm a Christian, but guess what? I'm so secure. I can do this. That's right.
I can do this. Luther did it. Martin Luther did it. Okay. He did it. Okay. In Germany, he did it.
Maybe they didn't have good clean water to drink, so they drank this. So does that mean you should drink? There are other things Martin Luther did that I don't agree with. His anti-Semitic remarks were horrible, horrible, otherwise a great man of God. And I love Martin Luther. But then in the end of his life, he went off the rails. Now, I'm not saying it's because he was drinking and he did all that, but just because he drank doesn't mean I drink. Just because he was anti-Semitic. Right.
Should I be? Okay. Yeah. So, and then there are people who are anti-Semitic because of that reason.
I don't care for that. You know, it's funny because we were talking about this a little bit before we started recording. We were looking at scripture, especially if like from Proverbs. I know it's all through like Proverbs 31 and stuff like that. But even if you find any reference to drinking in the Old Testament, is any of it positive? Does the Bible ever, ever spin drinking in a positive light? Well, it talks about the Messiah coming and wine will flow freely, but it's more metaphorical.
It's not a wine in the sense of people just be drinking away, being wasted or just, or even having a good party drink. I think it was more meant for a celebration. It was to depict celebration. Like the spirit of life and partying and celebration is there.
God's word was written so that common people would understand. So of course the Levites and the priests don't drink, but they will celebrate. They will rejoice because they understand. Well, how do you communicate to the average person among the tribes of Israel that this is what's going to happen when the Messiah comes? Well, it'll be like a celebration, like your party that you had, but this is going to be without the drink. It's because the savior of the world has come.
Right. I loved, you preached a message on that. It's been a couple of years ago now, but it was in our, in the series through the different signs of Jesus and turning the water into wine. And it was all about how, you know, it was meant to point their attention to Jesus as the source of our joy instead of just Jesus signing off the permission slip on drinking. And that was so helpful.
I feel like it was so helpful in understanding, you know, this often misinterpreted miracle of Jesus. There's something much deeper happening. Yeah.
Yeah. The wine, the purification and parts. I mean, it was not just any old pot that he was, he commanded to be filled with water and then he turned it into wine and then taken to the master of the ceremonies. Now these were the purification pots.
It means the old system of washing and purifying and sacrificial offerings and all that is done. Now the new wine has come, which is better than the old. You remember the master of the ceremonies even says that. He said, typically you give the best wine first and the ones everybody's so gone faded. Then you bring the bad ones. He said, you're bringing the good one later. Of course that's about Jesus. Right.
The law came first, but grace and peace came to Jesus Christ. So the good one came later. So that's, that's what's happening here, but we have sort of taken that to, can I have my Sam Adams?
Exactly. You know, this has nothing at all to do with drinking, but one of the cool things that we were able to do is actually go to that site where Jesus turned the water into wine in Cana and visit that chapel where it's believed that he did that. But I remember we filmed, we filmed an episode there or not an episode, but we filmed like a Bible study there. In that little alley? In the alley.
Yeah. It was cause it was dark. It was getting, it was getting to be nighttime and it was funny cause that was the very first sign he did, but it was one of the last ones that we had the chance to film. It was late in the evening. We were losing light. We were like, we got to get somewhere where we can get some light and we did it in that little alley. But it was really cool to be able to stand there and know that Jesus himself actually did this miracle or the sign somewhere here. That was, that was one of the highlights of that trip for me.
One of the things that a lot of people don't understand, having grown up overseas in India and then coming here, I've been able to witness the tragedy, the tragedies that come from drinking. And I shared a story that I think maybe a year ago or maybe in a previous radio show of how this one family that came to our church where the husband grew up in a Christian home and the wife did not, she was a Hindu, but they fell in love. They got married and she converted.
How much did she really understand or not? We don't know, but she converted, became a Christian and came to church. They were members of our church.
They had two sons. And this gentleman had a problem with drinking. When he was not drinking, great guy. Wasn't as regular in church, but a great guy.
His wife, who was a Hindu convert, actually came to church more often than he did. And then on the weekends, he would start drinking Friday evening. And then by eight, nine, 10 o'clock at night, it would be a show. The whole neighborhood would get that show.
Like out in the yard? Out in the yard, screaming, shouting, and sadly beating his wife. And all that kind of stuff would go on.
And nobody calls the police over there for drinking stuff unless you're damaging somebody else. So he would do the show. People would sit out on their front porches and watch the show. Did he live near you? He lived not close enough for us to see, but it was literally a five minutes walk. Maybe 10 minutes walk. Like just around the corner. Just around the corner.
10 minutes walk. And I had the unfortunate privilege to witness it one time. And he was on his, like a balcony. It was like a second story house. It was under his balcony. And he was standing there, cussing everybody out.
Cussing everybody out. You were a little kid? I was probably eight or nine years of age. And I remember watching that. I'm like, this is a Christian family. His wife is a Hindu convert. And yet, what do you think is going through her head? And she would come to my dad crying.
And my dad would pray with her. I mean, she was a well-educated nurse. And other than that, he was a great guy until he drank. You see that, though, in people. You see that even in people who are close to you, that once you drink, you start to change. And it's not that the drink is making you do that. It's like you said, it's revealing all that ugliness inside.
And you're choosing to do it. And a lot of abuses happen because of drinking. No one wants to talk about that.
All we see are the commercials where people are living the life, having a great time with friends and just, man, this is the best life. No one talks about that father abusing his own daughter, or grandfather doing that, or a couple. It's terrible, ugly, sinful, demonic, evil, hellish. And yet people say, oh, it's not a big deal.
It's not for you. We get it. And then all the accidents that happened. How many funerals I've done.
I can tell you at least four or five where the death was because of alcohol. So what do you do when you see that? It's like, well, we just need to be responsible.
How about I give you a better suggestion, which is if this is going to get a weaker brother to sin, let me not do it. It's a weird, weird thing that we've adopted. And maybe, like you said, it is part of our American culture. Maybe it's ingrained in who we are, but it's a weird thing where it's like, I know I'm drinking poison. I know I'm putting poison into my mind. It's putting poison into my body, my soul, but I'm going to keep doing it because I feel like I can have just enough to not kill me, to not cause problems. And even when it does start to bring problems into my marriage, my spiritual life, my relationships with all the people that I love, I'm just going to keep doing it because at this point I can't stop. And I fought for this because I'm allowed to.
Yeah. Well, it's very interesting that's coming out. I don't know what the motivation is. I don't trust liberal media.
I don't care even if the story sounds very, you know, like in our favor. Even then, not sure what to do with them. But even National Geographic magazine, National Geographic Health just had an article or had a whole section on alcohol in your body. And they said that new research shows greater harm in even moderate drinking. Women are more at risk. Older people get a buzz faster and don't take a nip before bed plus cancer.
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You have to subscribe to it. Of course. Of course you do. Want to read more? Yeah.
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You've got a golden chance to make your day. Yeah. So no, the article, the whole section is really against drinking, but you have to buy it. But I hope you get the idea. What I'm trying to communicate is that even secular world is saying, this may not be as good as we made it out to be.
Yeah, true. It's harmful. It doesn't do you any favors.
Yeah. There's no good. Other than the only positive that I can think of is I'll have a good time.
But that's the only positive. There's a laundry list of negatives, a laundry list of cons, but you know what? It's worth it if it will just help me have a good time.
It's like, can you just learn to be a fun, fulfilled person without it? No, I don't want to do that. I don't want to do that. I'm not interested in doing that.
No, I'd rather just let that take care of it for me. So helpful. Such a great discussion for us. If you guys enjoyed today's discussion, write in and let us know, 252-582-5028. Or you can visit us online at cleerviewtodayshow.com. Don't forget, you can partner with us financially on that same website. Scroll to the bottom, click that donate button and let us know what's coming from our Clearview Today Show family. Lots of great content coming your way the rest of this week. Make sure you guys tune in. We love you guys. We'll see you tomorrow on Clear View Today.