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I am Patriot Mobile. I thank and praise God for this borewell that God has enabled us to put in this village with the prayer and support of Pastor Greg Young and Chosen Generation Radio Ministry. By the prayer and support of Pastor Greg Young and Chosen Generation Ministry, we could put the borewell in this village for the community.

Before this community was drinking dirty water and that was really causing a lot of sickness. But now they are getting pure and fresh water and all the communities are so thankful for Pastor Greg Young and Chosen Generation Ministry and all the supporters. And we pray for all of you that God would bless you and God would use you so that we can put more and more borewells in a poor and needy community, those who are really having a problem of the waters. And this borewell we have put and pure and fresh water is coming and we are so thankful for all of you. We thank Pastor Greg Young and Chosen Generation Ministry that help us and support us to put more and more borewells in this village. Pastor Greg Young and Chosen Generation Ministry, we pray for all of you that God has enabled us to put and more borewells in this village for the community and all the supporters of Pastor Greg Young and Chosen Generation Ministry. Welcome to Chosen Generation with your host Pastor Greg Young. But you are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a peculiar people that you should shoe forth the praises of Him who has called you out of darkness into His marvelous light which in time past were not a people but are now the people of God which had not obtained mercy but now have obtained mercy.

And now Chosen Generation where no topic is off limits and everything is filtered through biblical glasses. And now here's your host Pastor Greg. And welcome to the program. Great to have you with me. Thanks so much for being here. I know you have a choice of where you can listen each and every day. And I thank you for keeping it tuned here to Chosen Generation Radio where no topic is off limits and everything is filtered through biblical glasses. I'm your host Pastor Greg. Well let's see, top of the next hour Ken Thornburg will be joining me. We'll be talking about declarations, the power of the tongue.

Proverbs 18 21 says life and death are in the power of the tongue and those that love it will eat of its fruit. And so we'll get into some conversation about that and about your authority, how the declarations that you make can really have just a very powerful impact. I'll likely share a personal story. Ken and I went through some stuff and some things that he shared with me that have really been significant even just in the last couple of weeks. But anyway we'll talk about those declarations and the power of those things. Pat Long and I will get into a conversation regarding our education system and we'll talk a bit about the history of that and how important it is, how that really has been set up. We have been set up. And so we have to understand then that the parents that are parenting right now, many of whom, and I'm grateful for this, if the plandemic did anything at all, what it did is it awakened so many parents to realize that what many of us have been saying about the indoctrination of your kids, what they're doing to your children in the schools, is a reality.

It's not something we just made up and said, oh, let's come up with some kind of strange conspiracy. It's a fact. They have taken the communist idea, what Hitler knew to be true, what progressives, what technocrats have known, and that is that you have to control the kids. You've got to get them young and you've got to control them.

And then you've got to train them in a certain way. And there has been a long-term plan. And Matt and I will get into that in the next hour, so I'm looking forward to that. Let's see, bottom of this hour, Jeff Criswell will join me.

We'll talk about the rise in antisemitism across the country, or is it? And we'll discuss that and really what that brings up, the potential dangers that that brings up. Let's see, I'm going to see if I can't bring this up for you. Maybe you've seen the new Tom Cruise movie, and the villain in that movie is portrayed by an actor named Esai Morales.

You may remember him, and actually there's a couple of shots in there that are obviously put in by green screens and what have you from when he was much younger. And you may recognize that face. But let me see if I can get this to come up for us. And I was blessed to do an interview and share my testimony with Mr. Morales. And let me see if I can get cut into some of that. But there you go. This is my husband, Chris, who I dearly love, as you guys know, with every part of my life.

Your tires. It's not a good thing. Yeah, this is my husband Chris ideally love as you guys know with every be every part of my This is Chris Young I mean, he's an extraordinary man or way to hear his story. It's so it's fine Yeah, we were excited to get him on the show because we often talk about you know When it comes to help you want to be want to have positive mind body and spirit and spirit and it's hard to quantify spirit I know that you've had spiritual experiences We've talked about it before but the pastor Craig is all that so so buckle up because it's just an amazing take notes, too Because he gives you some passages. You're gonna want to look up later.

I know I'm going to So it's gonna be two-part. So you see two parts of us Just because and again So brilliant and so amazing was a story that it was not right for us to try and cut it down Into raw people just how brilliant this was We also have a mystery guest that stops by today and hangs out with us a good friend of ours You'll see how many comes on. So yeah, get ready cuz ladies and gentlemen pastor great pastor green.

How are you? We're glad that you were glad we could finally connect we met back in October of 2022 Yeah, we were all at the Trinity Health Expo and your story was so intriguing and inspiring That we we really wanted to get you on the show But like Lord said, you know scheduling conflicts came up and all and then it wasn't until a mutual friend was like hey discussing this amazing man who had this amazing story and He's a pastor and we're like, hold on. We feel like we know this story So that's just that's just like you said the divine working in our favor to try and get us all to back together so You know take take the floor and introduce yourself What you're up to For the audience to hear about your inspiring story and how powerful God is and how everything can be fixable as you can see Amen.

Amen. Well, I first of all, I just want to say how grateful I am to be here with you Chris and Lord is it's a it's an honor to join your program and And it was a joy to meet you at the Trinity Health Freedom Expo there in Tinsley Park it was it was just kind of fortuitous as well because you were doing an interview with our mutual friend Scott and And he was borrowing my equipment. So he didn't have to set anything up in order to do the interview And so it was it was just very cool Well, my my story actually and and health is is such a big part of this and natural pathic health finding natural ways to heal because in 2004 I was given three to six months to live my pituitary gland and my adrenal gland shut down and The natural path that I ultimately ended up seeing said basically you've lived 75 years in 42 and so your pituitary gland and your adrenal gland have given you all the overtime if you will that you're allowed and they have shut down and and so we began a process of cleansing and And using the electromagnetics to pull the poisons out of my feet in the bath then I Did that for quite some time? The water was pure black when we first started sure then then I had to go to bovine stem cell intervention and Bovine stem cell intervention.

Yeah, what is this? Um, so they it's actually bovine stem cells That are in a saline type solution and you take them sublingually under your tongue And then they go in to the stem cell Part of your body as you know, your body is making new stem cells every 24 hours Right and very briefly one of the interesting things that I found out about that I didn't know this but you know your your body produces a healthy stem cell as you guys I know know this and maybe many of your audiences know this So just bear with a novice for a minute But you know, you have these stem cells and they're healthy when they when they're born when they're created But they become what they see Mm-hmm. So if the stem cell they're replacing is sick Then this healthy stem cell takes on that Sick and becomes sick. Yes, and then that pattern Continues So what bovine stem cell cuz at the stem cell level? It doesn't matter What you put in between? What matters is is that it's a healthy stem cell so that the healthy stem cell is Interrupted by seeing a healthy stem cell before it dies So that that stem cell Will say oh I'm supposed to be healthy.

Okay. Well, then I'm gonna be healthy Yeah, and and so it's so and and it's interesting applying that to a biblical or a Christian Principle. It's the same thing with us putting on the image of Christ If we don't spend time with the Lord, we're not gonna be able to put on his image Right, right. And so each time every day, you know the his mercies are new every morning, but so are the challenges that we will face every day and they can weigh us down and they can attack us and they will and they will present themselves as being pretty ugly and What helps us to overcome those is Christ in us?

We're not regularly putting Christ in us Then we don't have that to defeat that ugly. So it's interesting that they went with bovine with bovine stem cells And by the way, I love that I love what you said and I think I myself need to hear that because sometimes we get so wrapped and Started our morning to get things done on a typical routine and instead of starting at first with Christ so that it starts off And with the right foundation and then we get over long and the best way to go around that is Exactly to start that way is started with Christ inside you Amen. I love that. Yeah, that's a brilliant way to start today and then you know, we have a we have a guest producer with us today and When you were talking about bovine stem cells, he said it was a moving story. So What's the beef I want to know what's the beef hello pastor my name is Esai and I'm I'm a weird kind of person who believes in in Christ In a way that is challenging sometimes for others who are more traditional minded. I just believe That when I wake up in the morning, the first thing you do is just you give thanks You have another day So that for me is like the first like looking for true north in a sense and giving thanks is always something I think that is is considered a good thing to do. You sure You acknowledge your blessings and then hopefully you can continue to receive them the way the reason I said Different is that I've met many people from many different faiths and my my aspect in respecting their religiosity or faith is to not argue with them about you know, well your God my God this gotta but to accept and acknowledge that there's so much love and It probably comes from the same source. I will not argue with other folks about you know that the technicalities I just know that you know by your fruits you shall be known and and that's You know, I I don't know where what background in Christianity you have but I have a father who is Pretty hardcore bring fire and brimstone. So I sometimes get a little nervous around You know, he corrects pastors, you know and some some pastors need to be corrected brother I hate to tell you But I Wanted my to deal with a father who is so righteous in a certain way That it just feels like I can't say anything without him getting offended or God or crew You know, it's just sometimes I wonder was Jesus that Sure of everything.

Did you know? Absolutely. He said I am the way I am the truth and I am the life and no one Comes to the father except through me period. Oh, absolutely. No other than so Wonder so let me let me let me let me try to if I find they Let me try to reframe it perhaps Lourdes you had cancer If someone had come to you and said I'm just gonna hold this up pretend like this has something in it But if if I if I said listen Lourdes if you'll take this All of your cancer will be gone Now You can take this and and and I Don't know you may feel a little better But it's not gonna cure your cancer and I say that because I know that This will cure your cancer not because I'm guessing not because There's some question in my mind, but because I absolutely Know it Convinced of it and have seen others whose cancer has been healed because of it Mm-hmm, if if I'm a loving and caring person What I give Lourdes what I know is going to heal her Or what I give Lourdes What may or may not work out for her? and If I'm in a room filled with people who all believe that they have their own concoction But don't have evidence like I do Do I let those people convince her and persuade her to take what I know won't work Or do I say loudly please please I Love Lourdes. I know you're trying to do the best that you can but please Please let me give her what I know is going to heal her and let's pray it does I'm saying I mean, I there is no question.

I've been there I've been there. I've seen it and I know what it takes to get there Yeah, I don't have a point Yeah, so it's really about once you have is like look I have the evidence it's helped this person this person this person this is the this is the answer here and Everybody's like yeah, but this might work because it's got these things, you know, and it's like that's a maybe and that's it for sure So it's just a natural Thing for one to say you just have to try this so and trust so these the same way when it comes to Well, I mean going back to health, you know Lourdes and I will often deal with people And I'll use the analogy, you know based on what I was asking about how you deal with people who have their own perspective on religion And they don't really want to hear what you have to say or are really forceful with their opinion But based on that analogy when it comes to health Lourdes and I often say, you know, we can provide the truth We can provide the way And we can wish them, you know blessings give them blessings pray for them and we can do all that from our perspective But at the end of the day, it does come down to the other person. It's choice It comes on and it does and so and so the question was Which would I prefer that she have and would I vocalize That perspective now at the same point You know, I had a friend years ago Who was an atheist Who was an atheist and we worked together and we used to go to lunch and we would have great conversations deep Incredible conversations. His name was Monty And one day we were having lunch and and Monty said to me he said, you know I wonder sometimes why Christians feel that they need to You know share their faith and and try to you know convince somebody to believe the thing that they believe And I said, you know Monty I can't I can't speak For anybody else I can only speak for myself and this was before this experience that I will share with you in just a bit I said, but here's the thing If if I believe what the Bible is saying is true And I believe there is a heaven and I believe there is a hell And that I believe that Bible's description of hell as being a place where God is not He's absent from that place because the person chose They didn't want God Now they go to the place where he isn't And that's not a good place And I care about I care about the people that I meet Then I am going to want to share with them How they can avoid Being in that place It's up to them to decide but I'm not going to remain silent Because I don't want to see anyone and quite frankly, Monty, I said If you know someone or have a quote-unquote friend Who knows that the direction that you're going is going to lead to absolute destruction for yourself And they won't tell you in love how to avoid that I would seriously question whether they are in fact your friend Absolutely. Can I just say also the difficulty for me comes in knowing that others From other faiths are just as devout. I have Muslim friends, Jewish friends and Buddhists. I mean all kinds So what I like to do is be respectful because By definition, the term faith means it's something you can't prove. There isn't necessarily enough true evidence or independent evidence that can say this is what helped me But there's so much.

There's so many questions. So not to create doubt, but to respect doubt is my thing Not to, you know, I love my atheist friends And like yourself, I can't help but to say, listen, you know, this is what I think But I think the tone that we take determines whether we are righteous, self-righteous or loving And I think that ultimately, as what I'm hearing with you and certain other folks, the loving approach comes through And no matter what we do or say, I think it undergirds our intentions. I have other friends, unfortunately, who are like, like someone who's new to something They become so impassioned with it and so evangelical with it that it actually has sometimes, not always, the opposite effect People don't want to hear.

They're like, oh my God, here they come, please, I can't deal. You mean like an ex-smoker? Exactly.

Or an ex-drinker, a dry drunk. Oh, they can be quite, you know, so that's like, you know, I always try to be careful because I appreciate an honest atheist than a duplicitous religionist, whatever they may be. Do you know what I'm saying? Some peopleā€¦ No, I follow. I follow. Well, and you hit on, I mean, ultimately, and you know, this is what we're seeing, as a matter of fact, can I begin to share?

Yeah, absolutely. So, this screen that I'm sharing right here, the reason it says Pastor Chicana is actually because I'm going to cut in here. We'll be picking up, I believe, with Jeff Criswell will be coming up here shortly, but there's going to be more of the interview. I did quite a bit of an interview with Chris and Lourdes, that particular piece I thought was really cool, just to kind of talk about how we share our faith and what that looks like and what that can look like to somebody else. And I really appreciated Esai sharing his experience and his experience with his dad and so on.

I thought that was cool. You can see him, he portrays the villain in the new Mission Impossible. There's part one and part two will be coming out. But he's in several of the other pieces, and I'll have those up on our Rumble page, where I share about my experience in heaven and a couple of other pieces.

This particular piece is about 46 minutes, and his response to me and the testimony that I have that I share. By the way, Thursday, the time change has brought us back. So we will have the entirety, or nearly the entirety, of the India service this Thursday. And just to be clear, we reach out to unreached peoples in India. We are reaching out into villages where the gospel has never actually been fully presented in those particular communities. But we're invited. We don't just barge in. We are asked by members of the community who've experienced the gospel, heard about what we're doing, heard about the message, and heard about the healings that follow.

By the way, we had 69 salvations last Thursday, and we had 52 testimonies of healing as well. All right, I'm going to take a break. I'll be back with more. I believe Jeff Criswell will be joining us on the other side, and I'll have that coming up for you right after this brief break. Let's see. Yeah.

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I am Patriot Mobile. Visit to support Chosen Generation and make a tax-deductible donation. Now, back to Chosen Generation with Pastor Greg. Look, I am for marriage between a man and a woman. I am for life from conception. I am for following the Bible, and I believe that our founders started this nation on biblical principles.

I am in support of our military and believe that America should play a role in world security. I believe our Constitution was intended for a moral people and that the Bible contains the only true moral code. I believe we are all born sinners and that God in His grace and mercy sent His Son Jesus Christ to die for our sins and that if we will confess our sins, He is just and righteous to forgive us our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness. I believe salvation is not just accomplished in a little prayer, but that it is found in how that transformation is lived out. Jesus is to be the Lord of our lives, and we should follow biblical precepts. This is not legalism or works, but a life lived out in love and honor towards the one who died for my sins. Faith without works is dead and is no faith at all. I believe that we will fall and that we need to have a repentant heart and that God will ultimately bring us into perfect action through Jesus Christ, spirit man perfected and soulish man in progress. I believe that we are not to live in guilt and shame when we fall, but we repent and get up and move closer to Jesus. I believe that if our nation will repent and turn from wickedness that God will heal our land.

I believe that as a Christian I must occupy until He comes and that to call evil wicked and to warn about those evil acts is a part of the mandated Christianity. That to love also means to be willing to take the risk necessary to confront a friend with the truth in hopes that their heart will be turned because their life matters, even if it means in that moment they will possibly hate me. It means that I must risk scorn to stand for truth and that I can never sit silently by while evil attempts to conquer the world. God is my everything and Jesus is the love of my life. That does not make me weak but strong, not silent but bold and not fearful but courageous. Therefore, if you are my friend, while we may not fully agree, know that I share what I share because I care.

If you strongly disagree with these beliefs, they are not debatable for me and you can, if you choose, unfriend me. I do not say this in anger but in love, I wish for you eyes to see and ears to hear that Jesus Christ is the only way to salvation and that God, not man, gets to decide what is truth, life and the way. God bless you. And welcome back to Children's Generation Radio, where no topic is off limits and everything filtered through biblical glasses. I'm your host, Pastor Greg.

Thanks so much for being with me. I know you have a choice on where you can listen each and every day, and thank you for keeping it tuned here. And I'm pleased to welcome my next guest to the program.

He is running for a congressional seat in the state of Georgia, where there's a lot of focus right now on a variety of issues. And not the least of which is the current trial, actually, of a friend of mine, Reverend Steve Lee, and David Shostokis, who is a regular guest here on the program, is his attorney. And I want to welcome to the program, Jeff Criswell. Jeff, welcome. Good to have you.

Hello, my friend. Thank you for having me. I'm just absolutely thrilled to join you.

Well, it's a pleasure to have you with me. And I know that one of the things we want to talk about in your background, how long did you spend in the education system? I saw in your bio that you started at 63. Well, OK, so I'm now 64. I don't know if I was like a one and done.

I don't know. I had a good time, you know, but there was also issues. Well, and so to those issues, I mean, you know, it doesn't look, you know, it doesn't take a great deal of time to spend in that in that pot to realize, you know, there's something doesn't smell right.

I mean, you know, you can you can pretty much tell pretty quickly. So talk to me about we wanted to talk a little bit about the anti-Semitism situation. Why do you think that these universities are creating individuals that are that are marching for an entity responsible for the rape and murder of children and babies and women?

You know, I got to be honest with you, I don't have a good answer in terms of like the educational system and the higher education, quote unquote, why there's being this sort of a blowback. I can tell you that I personally support Israel on this. You know, it's it's it's a tough situation over there.

But, you know, I was talking to somebody yesterday. It's one thing for Hamas, for people to sit at the border and throw rocks or the occasional rocket. It's a much different thing to go in and murder a thousand people or a thousand plus people and do it in the way that they did. That was an act of war. So, you know, Israel, in my view, it has every right to respond just exactly the way that they are.

I don't know who on the Palestinian side who thought that was a good idea. Are you kidding me? OK, it's like me going in to pick a fight with Mike Tyson. You know, it's not going to work for me. I'm not I'm not going to win that fight. So, you know, I stand with Israel on this one.

I'm with them on this one. Well, I'm you and I are on the same page, you know, as far as that is concerned, because and actually I have a friend of mine that was in Tel Aviv on the day that this happened. And and I was actually I was looking for some reliable news sources and and came across some individuals, Steve Bannon being one of them, that was saying some things that I knew were just not right.

They were they were incorrect. And so I jumped on air and then got a WhatsApp message from my friend, Dr. David Wormser, who was in Tel Aviv. And so we did a two and a half hour program live from Israel while they were under attack with sirens going off.

And at one point he had to run down to the to the basement of the building that he was in and get into the bomb shelter. It's you know, yeah, I'm I agree with you. The I guess the question is, is why do you think that we're experiencing so much anti-Semitism and and how much of a concern do you think that should be for us?

Yeah, I mean, I got to be honest with you. It's mystifying to me here in Atlanta. We have a very sizable Jewish community. And there was an incident out on a highway a week ago where somebody projected a anti-Semitic message onto a highway overpass. And I just I don't know where that's coming from. I just you know, like I say, there's a lot a lot of Jewish folks here.

They're super nice. They don't they're not hurting anybody. I don't get it. I think maybe what you're seeing here is, oh, you know, Israel has responded with force and you know, how dare they defend themselves and they should stop and they should everything should be done in a measured way. Maybe that's maybe that's contributing to this. Well, do you think, though, I mean, some of the entities that have jumped on board with this, for example, are, you know, BLM, which which I think BLM at one point was relatively dead, especially after the identifying of all the money that they siphoned off and that their leadership did.

And yet they are back in the news again. And and people claiming to be a part of the Black Lives Matter movement have jumped on board with Hamas and Tifa jumped on board with Hamas. Do you know, do you do you think that that's playing a role in it? I mean, hypothetically, you could be right. I mean, let's get down to brass tacks. I mean, there could be a lot of race involved in this.

You know, Jewish people are white, BLM is black. You know, there's antipathy. Why aren't we doing this?

Why aren't we doing that? That could be. I mean, it could be. I don't you know, I think if you look up the chain, you look to Biden and if you look at Biden, the man is nothing but a puppet. In my view, Obama and the Obama people are behind Biden. So, you know, as far as policy is concerned, you know what we're projecting from the presidency on to the on to the United States that's coming from Biden and perhaps even Obama. It's interesting as as like, for example, when you look at what happened this weekend, you had these Palestinian protesters that assaulted the gate at the White House, tried to climb over the fence around the White House and and basically desecrated all of the statues. And I've seen pictures of the things that were that were written on there and and they are attacking Biden, which I think is kind of ironic in in relationship to, you know, Biden handed six billion dollars to Iran, send it to Qatar and and has placed very pro Iranian. And now those that have been clearly connected with Tehran in the intelligence apparatus of the administration. And I agree with you, I think Obama is running all of this.

It doesn't it kind of say that their woke ideology really doesn't that that's really not the point of these people? Yeah. You know, like you say, I mean, I'm running here in the seventh district here in Georgia. The incumbent is a lady named Lucy McBath. And she's a black lady.

Her, for lack of a better way to say it, I mean, her claim to fame is that her son was killed tragically 12 years ago at a convenience store. And she has parlayed this into a political career and she votes lockstep with Biden on everything. And I just feel like there's going to be such a blowback in this election next year where even black people are going to turn on Biden. And I'm like I say, I'm fighting really hard right now to win my primary. And I cannot wait to get into the general because I do believe it's going to be a fair fight when black folks, Hispanic folks who have typically voted Democrat, they're going to be taking a very hard look at Biden. And, you know, I'm a Trump guy.

I mean, you know, warts and all. I am a Trump guy. And I truly believe that you're going to see a strong surge of support for Trump among these minority communities.

And I think he's headed back to the White House. Well, you know, it's interesting you say that because I think that President Trump did a great deal. I mean, black entrepreneurship was at an all time high. Black unemployment was at an all time low.

Hispanic unemployment was at an all time low. You know, everyone in America was prospering under the policies of President Trump. And I agree with you.

I think that the minority communities recognize that President Trump did a great deal for them. Some of the elitist celebrities are continuing their assault. And you're seeing, I mean, right there in Georgia, you've got a DA that's just absolutely out of control. Yeah, she's awful.

She's awful. And I don't, like I say, I don't think she speaks for the man on the street. I think I just saw a poll, I believe it had to do with Georgia, where black folks, black males in particular, were really coming on strong in terms of their support of Trump. And I think they just like him. They just, he's blunt. He's to the point.

He doesn't mess around. You know, I think a lot of people respect that. We have a huge Indian community in this district. It is huge, man.

Okay. One of the largest Hindu temples in the country is right here in this district. The Indian people really like Trump. It's like, we don't really care about the, you know, the stuff that's going on on the side, he gets to the point, he's pro business, he wants to make a buck, etc, etc. Yeah, I get that. I do a lot of ministry in India.

And I know the people in India over there were very pleased when he was in power and in office, and have been very, very disappointed with the Biden administration and just their overall lack of leadership in the world in general. Let's shift back to, as I was going through your site, one of the things that I saw was, as you talk about being a centrist, what does that mean to you? Well, okay, so let's take an issue like abortion, and I hope I'm not stepping on toes here. But, you know, the law here in Georgia, in my view, is okay just the way it is. So we have exceptions. We have the safety of the mother. We have rape. We have incest. And I believe that there is no abortion now after six weeks.

I'm not exactly sure in Georgia. But, you know, some of my Christian friends, like, oh, there's never going to be an abortion. There's no exception for abortion. I disagree with that, okay?

Just on that particular view. Guns, all right? We're never going to take away your right to buy a gun.

We're never going to retrieve 350 million guns, okay? But what, okay, so if I've got small children in the house, and I know that the percentages are that the leading cause of death among these little kids is gunshot wounds, then I'm okay with let's having some safe storage, okay, if I have small children in the house, okay? I've talked to other gun owners who are very upset.

They don't like that. A locked gun is a useless gun. If I've got small kids in the house, I want to lock that gun up. So, you know, just on those two things, you know, I'm pro-guns. I'm pro-life. But I can meet people from the other side a little bit anyway. I can make a little move toward the middle, you know, in that regard. What else do you compromise on? Oh, bro, compromise.

That's a good question. You know, one of the huge issues right now, Greg, is the border. In my view, we need to shut the border down. What's happening down there is crazy, man.

And we have zero idea who's coming in. I just met a gentleman the other day from Russia. Okay, this guy had a story. He's like 25 years old. He was protesting the war in the Ukraine. He was feeling the heat from the government there.

So he decided to get the hell out of Dodge. He flew to Turkey. From Turkey, he flew to Mexico. And from Mexico, my friend, he just walked across the border over in California. I'm sure. Who else is coming over here, man? We don't have any idea.

I met this guy. So we got to do something about the border. And, you know, for me, we got to close that thing down. And we've got now three, four million people who have just come in. They don't speak English.

They don't have skills. Where are they going? You know, we've got to address that situation as well. So relative to the border, your belief is the border has to be closed. We've got to create a secure border. If it requires putting up and building on the wall, which I think it's interesting because this current administration, I think it was Blinken, who finally came out and said, we're going to stop the moratorium on the wall. We're going to build the wall. They came out, this sounds like George H.W. Bush, read my lips, there'll be no taxes. Biden said, read my lips, there'll be no wall. And now his secretary of state, I believe it is, is saying, well, yeah, so we need to build the wall.

Well, you know, now that we're in the election cycle, you know, they're drifting back to something where they can cover their ass over what's happened the last two, three years. All right. I guess let me let me let me press in a little bit on the on on the gun situation. Obviously, if you own a gun, you know, you want to you want to teach your children how to how to be safe. I don't have the statistics in front of me to push back on what you said about what what the number one cause is of of of kids, you know, dying or why a lady pediatrician told me that.

And I had a very long animated discussion with her about it. OK, so I don't question that statistic. I know.

Here's the thing, Greg. I've never owned a gun in my life. Guns scare the bejeebies out of me. And ironically, my dad worked for the ATF.

He was a PR man in D.C. for the ATF. We never had a gun in our house. I've shot a gun once in my life. So I'm a little bit out of my my bailiwick here on this. But, you know, when you're saying in what ways do you think you're a centrist?

That would be one of them. OK. What about the issue of marriage? I think we need to get marriage. People need to get married. I have I personally, Greg, have no problem with gay marriage. None. OK. I don't have any problem with gay marriage. So what?

But before we go there. OK. I'm a Christian. You're a Christian. How much divorce do we have in the church right now? I say I won't get.

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. If you're going to put that out there, then then you then give me an opportunity to respond to that. I'm just saying, if you want to honor traditional marriage, how come there's so much divorce and how come there's so much remarriage?

People getting married two, three, four, five times. And these are believers. OK, let's so let's let's address it. Sin is sin. No question about that. God has a specific reference to the issue of of men.

Jesus provides for. This is what is provided for in divorce. But I'm not even going to argue. I agree with you. I think divorce is a problem. I think divorce is an issue. I think it's an issue because there's a lack of understanding of covenant relationship. But but the but the the sexual side of this is a major issue.

And here's why. Because once you have approved same sex marriage, now you have to teach it to the kids in school and you have to teach how to have homosexual sodomite sex. And the reason you have to do that is, is that it becomes a part of sex education because. And now you have to go down and they are all the way down to five and six years of age. You have to talk about sexual preference. Why?

Why do you have to talk to? I have no problem with addressing sexual issues, just so it happens when the kids are 15 and 16. I don't want kids that are five or six or middle schoolers. I don't want them going into that school.

OK, I just don't want that. But high school kids, Greg, they're looking at porn. You know, you and I both know they're very well versed in sexual things. So I got no problem with leaving gay books in the library. Kids don't go to the library anyway in this world. If I've got a high school library with thousands of titles and there's five or six books there that appeal to gay kids, I got no problem with that. Well, Jeff, you and I are going to have a massive difference with regards to that.

Massive. And I'll tell you, it doesn't have anything to do with love. It has to do with Jesus's saying, don't touch the children.

That's the one place where he says, if you mess with the kids, I'm going to hang a millstone around your neck and drop you in the sea. And and when you put when you put and and I'll give you an example, I used to live in. I love you, Jeff. Jeff, your force, your force getting that verse onto what I said.

OK, Jeff, when when I used to live in California. I was on the school site council for for the grant. One of the grammar schools out there. And this was roughly 20 years ago. And in my daughter's first grade classroom, one of the readers in there was a book called Antango Makes Three. And it was a book about two male penguins.

Adopting or or however they came about it, but adopting basically a baby. That's too young. I agree. That's too young.

Well, but but here's the thing. When you have those books in the school library and you have those library. Is it the high school library or the elementary school? You just said elementary school.

Yes, I did too much. But it's not too much for high school kids. It's not. So again, when you have kindergarten, first, second, third grade kids. And you have Sam and Bob show up to be room moms. Totally disagree with that.

I'm on your side. But how do you but how do you say to them you can't be there when you also have made their. Union, a legal marriage which legalizes their rights, they have the same rights as you and your wife and me and my wife. You know, like I say, I would not want that sort of thing in an elementary or a middle school. I don't even want those guys showing up at the high school.

So, you know, I'm not really sure how to how to go from what you're talking about. But if you're asking me, I personally have no problem with gay marriage. The question for me as a Christian becomes when this gay guy shows up at my church or this gay couple. Do I come to them and I say, look, we love you, but you have to change your sexuality to stay here because that's that's not possible. It can happen. There are miracles that do happen. But overwhelmingly, that is not possible. So can that gay guy come to my church and say, yeah, I love Jesus, but I'm homosexual.

Where do I fit? Well, Jeff, I again, you and I are going to disagree because I have I have too many friends that actually have switched. And one of the things, you know, I don't know if you if you remember Milo Yiannopoulos. I'm not familiar with. OK, so so Milo was a concert at one time. He was an active but a conservative homosexual. But one of the things that made Milo stand out was is that Milo said, look, this is a choice. I am choosing to have sex with men. It's a choice. I'm not born this way. You're not born like this. There is there is no medical truth to that. There's no fact to that. There there is there are conditions.

There are all kinds of different conditions. But at the end of the day and I've ministered to homosexual people before on on numerous occasions and have, as I said, you know, George Carneal Jr., a good friend of mine, wrote a book from queer to Christ. He spent twenty five years in that lifestyle. So I disagree with you that someone is is stuck in that. Now, can they come to the church? Will they hear the truth? Will they will they can they sit in the pew and hear what God's word has to say about that? At the end of the day, the bottom line is this is Jesus Christ's work at the cross, a completed work.

Did he finish it? Did he set us free from sin? If God says that homosexuality is sin and he said that he conquered sin, then one of two things is true. Either he's telling the truth and he has given us the ability to overcome sin, all sin, or he lied.

And if that's the case, we've got a problem. And we just ran out of time and I apologize. Jeff, I thank you for being with me today. Jeff Chriswell dot com is his Web site. Jeff, I appreciate you being here. Have a blessed day, sir. All right. Bye bye.
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