CGR WEDNESDAY 090623 Michael Morris Dr Alan Lindemann

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Anything goes. You are teaching children adult child sex, you're teaching transgender issues, and children are moldable and influenced by that. They said, okay, now we need you and your team to be able to explain what homosexuality is to a four-year-old student. To introduce this kind of material at that age, frankly it's child abuse. You're going to teach our children that it's okay for any two children of any age, of any sex to have sexual intercourse with each other as long as two components are present. One's using a condom and they both give consent.

Did I hear that correctly? It's not a neutral venue. There's no such thing. The schools are doing your job. They are discipling your children, but they're not discipling them in the faith of Jesus Christ. It's only the exceptional child that even survives that system. Most do not survive.

Most have not survived. They believe that children are sexual from birth and that they deserve and have the right to be sexually active and to seek sexual pleasure. And if anyone is stopping them from that, then you are judging and oppressing them. Even kindergarten now, they're wanting to teach them more and more perverse information and acts and put that into the children's minds. And once that poison is in the child's mind, it doesn't leave. They'll always remember what they learned. And it's by design, it's orchestrated.

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We had David Shostakos was with us. Of course, he is representing Reverend Stephen Lee, who is one of the individuals that's charged with President Trump in the Georgia election indictments. And boy, I'll tell you, folks, if you're not familiar with that, you need to really understand the seriousness of what they're doing up to and including a district attorney who has decided that she has the right to tell attorneys in other states what lawsuits they can and cannot file. Listen to that. A district attorney who is saying, I have the right to determine what lawsuits an attorney can file in states other than even the county in which I'm presiding over. And that's part of this.

Oh, and by the way, if you're facing a legal issue, this district attorney has decided that no matter who you are and no matter where you live, she gets to decide whether or not you can consult with an attorney and whether or not she's going to deem it to be illegal or not. Oh, and one other piece to that. Just days ago, the FBI was kicking down the doors of another individual that had traveled to Washington DC on January 6th.

Two and a half years after the event, they showed up to kick down his doors. All right. Anyway, there you go. We talked with David about that. We talked with Rick Manning and David Wormser about Israel and about the ideological issues that are driving the left to want to literally destroy the state of Israel. Burn it down. We don't care.

They just want to burn it down. And then prior to that, I visited with you about America's moral cause and where our justification is supposed to come from. Joining me now, NewsBusters, Free Speech America, and Censortrack.org, Mr. Michael Morris. Michael, welcome. Good to have you.

Good morning. Thanks for having me on the show. Appreciate it. It is my pleasure, sir.

It is my pleasure. Well, we'll talk about... I mean, there's a lot to talk about in particular with the social media platforms and the things that they are obviously gearing up to start... Well, I don't know. Has the censorship in your opinion, Michael, stopped at all?

Well, it's very interesting what's going on right now. You know, Washington Post just put out an article a couple of weeks ago complaining that censorship has actually started to go away. They're whining that the big tech platforms aren't doing enough.

But what we're seeing here at MRC Free Speech America is it may just be that the big tech platforms are finding new ways to censor people. That's certainly been the case on Twitter. Now X, you know, a lot of people are not familiar with the new name still. But it's X now. Elon Musk has changed Twitter to X. And what's happening there with censorship is they're actually using a thing called Twitter Community Notes. Now, this is a program that's been around for quite a while. It was actually started under Jack Dorsey's watch, the former CEO of the company.

It was called Birdwatch back then. Well, now it's called Community Notes. And what that is, is that's where X will actually allow certain members of community to go on and put a label underneath a post. And what that does is that causes people to either not share or want to repost a post that's been made on the X platform. And so this is obviously censorship. It's no different than when other tech companies post labels or warnings or context warnings under those.

The entire purpose of it is to prevent people from wanting to share the information and therefore censorship. And, you know, we wrote we put an article out several months ago calling out then Twitter for exactly this, you know, putting labels or context or notes, community notes underneath posts. And we got a lot of we got a lot of pushback, not just from the left, but also from conservatives and people on the right saying, look, Community Notes is great. They're on our side.

Well, guess what? Community Notes is not always on your side. That's right.

Yeah. Here at MRC, we track this sort of thing. And we've got over well over 5000 documented cases. We're actually approaching 6000 documented cases of censorship on the big tech platforms. And the majority of those are Twitter. Even after Elon Musk took over, there's still an enormous amount of censorship that is happening on the platform. And it's now taking the shape of these Twitter community notes. One of the most recent ones we've gotten actually is a community note that was added to Trump. You know, and that may shock a lot of your viewers, but Trump posted a tweet, quote, COVID. Tyrants want to take away our freedom. Hear my words.

We will not comply. The tweet included a 90 second video with Donald Trump explaining his thoughts, suggesting that there's a new COVID variant and that they're going to try to bring all of that nonsense back. And it had a contact label. The context label said the Trump administration, along with other federal agencies, began to lock down the social distancing rules in 2020.

President Trump issued national guidelines that include the school closings and avoiding bars, restaurants and groups of more than 10. And then it says the label is part of Twitter's community note system. And it's, you know, folks just need to understand. This is censorship and it's happening not just on things that you disagree with. It's happening on things that you agree with as well. So that's the problem with it.

It all it all depends on who's running the platform, who's making decisions, who, who controls the levers of power behind these platforms. And if you allow it for one side, then it's going to come back and fight you as well. Well, I think there's I think there's no question that that, you know, and this is I think on on on all of these issues, I think this is the piece that is is so often overlooked. And it does impact you because here here's here's a means by which it's impacting you that you may not be thinking about. But, you know, and and it and I have the same issue. I see a tweet or or a post or, or an article or something that I see. And I look at that and I say, my goodness, this is wrong. This is misdirected that this isn't true.

This isn't, this isn't a fact. And I and I start to think, okay, I'm going to respond to this. And then I think to myself, okay, is is it is it really going to be worth that the potential headache that's going to be potentially created in for me, right?

If I, if I respond, if I if I correct, what's being said, if I if I address this, you know, how much, how much pushback am I going to get? And and and is is that particular thing worth all of that? That makes sense. You're absolutely right. Yeah, no, I mean, it's self censorship, right? And ultimately, that's what these platforms are trying to push for is they're trying to instill fear on everyday Americans from posting certain content on their platforms.

And look, I think I think it's worth, you know, more and more people all the time have have stopped talking about important issues on big tech, social media platforms. And, you know, it wasn't just X or Twitter that the wash post was whining about. It's also whining about Facebook now called meta. Facebook staff actually implemented this, this new policy, and it's an opt out policy.

And here's what wash post had to say about it. meta has quietly begun offering users new controls to opt out of a fact checking program, allowing debunked posts to spread in participants newsfeed with a warning label. So in other words, what meta is now allowing is you can go in to sort of their their policies there on the website, and you can actually weed out fact checks on your post, I would encourage your viewers to actually go in and try to do that. Because Facebook looks at that sort of thing, and judges whether or not it's a good policy by how many people use it. So I would highly recommend your users that to take a look at that and consider and consider using it so that they're not seeing these fact checks across their pieces.

But even more so, why is it opt out? I mean, the American people when when they stand up to use these big tech platforms, I wanted other people to be the arbiter of truth and for information that's online. If they truly believe in free speech, right, what these big tech companies would be doing is they would be allowing the American people to actually judge information for themselves. And as you noted, Pastor Greg, if there's something wrong with a post, what used to what used to happen is people would comment on it, right?

And they would make they would make the judge judgment from themselves and they would say, look, no, this is incorrect. And here's why. Yeah, you know, but now these big tech platforms, through all of their censorship for the last decade or so here, have been putting so much pressure on folks to turn that folks are scared to even do that much. So it's unbelievable what's happening.

Well, I know it is it is as dinner I was I was not aware of this. I'm looking right now to see if I can figure out how to how to go out into the opt out option. So So where do I do you know where to go to do that? Well, look, I can send you out a video. Okay. And then you can post that for you for your viewers to look at later.

Yeah, there's a little video that explains how to go about doing it. And I'm sure it'll be very helpful for for you and for your listeners. I can I can only imagine I can only imagine that it that there would be you know, a benefit in in in in getting away from from their censorship program. So there's a couple of other things that are that are that are up right now I something else that's that's not getting a lot of a lot of play Michael is is the I don't know if you saw this or not, but Harrison Floyd, who was the the head of blacks for Trump. He was one of those that was indicted in Fulton County in the in the fourth indictment, the fourth election indictment, and he was he did not have the funds necessary to post his bond.

And so he is he is sitting in prison right now. Wow. Yeah, that's, that's wild. And of course, there's a whole bunch of news going on about the indictments for team Trump, and then also for his attorneys, and then all of those involved in the January 6 protest as well.

I mean, it's truly incredible, which actually would have been happening. In fact, it newsbusters has done several studies on the coverage of that sort of thing. CNN, MSNBC actually played the Trump co defendants mugshots 188 times in 24 hours. And this is about a week before the Labor Day holiday weekend here. August 24. Newsbusters researchers actually looked over a 24 hour period, I can't see your viewers don't have to I mean, my goodness, can you imagine watching 24 hours of CNN and MSNBC? But but we did. We watched it.

August 23 24 hour band to the next day. Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani, Trump, the administrator, chief of staff, Mark Meadows, 188 total times their mugshots were sent. It was a combined 83 minutes across CNN and MSNBC. And then MSNBC actually led the pair of left is outward outlets with with screen time. 122 times on MSNBC, the mugshots returned 56 minutes and 23 seconds on MSNBC. And CNN 66 times and 27 minutes and 12 seconds. And of course, very little time spent on Joe Biden in the Biden family scandal.

Wow. Well, I'll tell you something else that's not getting a great deal of play on on on national news. And that is the the facts associated with what happened in Lahaina. The I mean, I don't know, have you guys have you seen a lot of coverage on on on what actually happened in Lahaina and and and where, you know, the the testimonies I mean, I had a gentleman that was on with me who spoke to people that were on that lives there.

I has been there for years. And and his the churches that he's associated with, were blocked by Red Cross and and other officials from delivering aid to the people in Lahaina. And they literally had to go around the island to the backside and come up onto a beach using using small boat craft in order to deliver aid. And and and the Red Cross is not providing them with any aid at all.

Nobody's providing these people with any aid. Wow. I mean, that I mean, that definitely sounds like it sounds like a bombshell story for sure. But, you know, look, unless it's a story about bias, NewsBusters is not is not covering it. And so what we do is we cover bias in the media. And so we actually looked at other bombshell and what what the ABC, CBS and NBC and CNN have been using with regard to the word bombshell.

And it's interesting. You're mentioning that they didn't cover this at all. That sounds like a bombshell story. But what are they covering instead? Well, these leftist outlets, again, the big three and CNN and MSNBC.

They've got numerous articles. In fact, five hundred and thirty six instances, only seven of them were about Biden. So out of five hundred thirty six instances of the word bombshell being used, only seven. That's one point three percent were about Biden. And I bet you your viewers can guess what the majority of those were, at least with what the overwhelming number of those was about. You guessed it. Donald Trump.

One hundred forty seven times out of five hundred thirty six. Bombshell and a headline stories were about Donald Trump. Fifty seven about Dominion's lawsuit.

Prince Harry's new book received forty eight bombshell. Clarence Thomas at the Supreme Court Justice. Forty five. Various murder cases.

Thirty eight. President Biden and his family for the Biden family scandal. Only seven times. And not on the list is what's happening behind our whole line. Well, and another piece that that's getting a whole bunch of coverage is the twenty two year prison sentence of Proud Boy or former Proud Boy leader Enrique Torrio. I looked that up and and it's and it's all over the place with regards to, you know, what's taken place with him. And and as you just mentioned, there's still almost no coverage regarding Hunter Biden and and and his involvement with with with China. And now breaking news suggesting that there's an email that he sent talking about him and his father waiting for certain individuals to do what they were trying to influence them to do while his father was there during the time frame that his father would have been the vice president of the United States of America. No coverage on that, but boatloads of coverage about Enrique Torrio, who, by the way, was never at the Capitol on January six.

Well, it's absolutely incredible. We hear over and over again the media drumming up J6, J6, J6. Before that, it was Russia, Russia, Russia. All of this nonsense rolling into a political season where we've got the presidential election of twenty twenty four. Meanwhile, as you just mentioned, we've got numerous Biden family scandals. Hunter Biden and his top Joe Biden in the alleged bribery scandal.

Numerous, numerous major instances dealing with the sitting president of the United States. And you've got the media running cover for it. It's just insane what's going on.

And look, we were talking about it just before the break. Even big tech is getting in on the act. Google actually is running its own election interference gambit.

And it did so right before the GOP primary debate. We did a search using a clean environment over here at MRC Free Speech America. And we just want to see if Google was suppressing or interfering in the election.

And sure enough, they are. We search presidential campaign websites. Not a single Republican candidate showed up in the first page of search. And Robert F. King, Jr. was also eliminated from the first page of results. So you've got the challengers to Joe Biden are not even appearing in the first page of Google search results. And wouldn't you know, President Joe Biden's campaign website was the first one to appear.

It actually appeared in the second search result on the front page. Marianne Williamson's campaign also showed up. It was the fifth result on the page. And then others also appeared that aren't even running. But they were all Democrats. Bernie Sanders showed up number nine. Hillary Clinton was actually number twenty nine. Also on the list was Senator Elizabeth Warren.

Her campaign for when she was running for president. But again, not a single Republican and also the second leading candidate on the Democratic side, RFK Jr. didn't show up in the first page of results. So it's not just big media.

It's big tech running election experience for Joe Biden in the 2024 election as well. And there was another issue where I guess they were looking at this. Let me see something about RFK not being allowed or or or, okay, here we go. So Democrats were were urging Republicans to rescind RFK Jr's invocation to testify. You know, that there's a, again, when it comes to him in particular and some of the others, there seems to be a disproportionate effort to silence certain candidates. Well, look, you're absolutely right. The Democratic Party was actually trying to prevent him from coming to speak at a weaponization hearing led by John Jordan, if memory serves.

And you know, it's incredible, right? And what is the left so afraid of? What is what is big media? What is big tech so afraid of with regard to RFK Jr.? Well, RFK Jr. has said repeatedly that he stands for free speech.

And so that's where all this is coming from. Big media and big tech do not want the American public to have free speech. They only want to silence free speech and prevent people from speaking out against the left narrative. And that's why MRC Free Speech America exists is to expose these folks and to push for free speech on platforms. And if you want to report that your free speech has been suppressed, we encourage you to go to sensortrack.org, sensortrack.org and file your report there, let them know and they will reach out on your behalf to inquire as to why the the social media platform that you identify has censored you. We greatly appreciate their work.

Follow newsbusters and free speech MRC Free Speech America. Michael, as always, thanks so much for being with us today. I greatly appreciate it.

Thank you. All right, we're gonna take a break. We'll be back with more Children Generation Radio coming up. Dr. Alan Lindemann will be with us right after this break. We'll be talking about maternal life, mortality rates, I apologize, maternal mortality rates and how he is working to eliminate the mortality rate amongst pregnant women.

We'll talk more about that right after this brief break. I'm your host, Pastor Greg. Hi, this is Pastor Greg and you're listening to Children Generation Radio. Get more at ChildrenGenerationRadio.com.

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That's l-i-n-d-e-m-a-n-n-m-d dot com. Dr. Alan, welcome. Good to have you. Well, it's so nice to be back here. Thank you very much Pastor Greg. Appreciate it.

Well, I'm glad to have you back. You know, obviously we want to talk about this issue of mortality and some of the things that ladies can be doing to remain healthy during their pregnancies but the other thing you and I were talking about a little bit in the green room that again is going to be pushed under the rug because you're not supposed to say anything about it but that is the impact that these Vax mandates are having on pregnancies and on the baby and on the mother. I know that you and others like Dr. Roger Thorpe have tried to confront the obstetrician organization to make them change their policies to address what they're doing. Talk to me about that and how that has impacted the mortality rates.

Well, of course, that's a lot of topics you opened up there Pastor Greg but let's just take one of them. You're talking about talking to ACOG which is the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists and yes, they do the official song and I think it's because a lot of these organizations have received money from the federal government and part of that money I suspect is for them to say the right things the right way at the right time but we're not supposed to like we were talking about thinking now is bad. We have a lot of assaults on the First Amendment and that's probably not going to end anytime soon but if we talk about anecdotal things, I know that of course we're not supposed to talk about anecdotal things but I have a patient who had it was one of the members of one of the we have putter right colonies and other colonies around here but they had and these were they had relatives in Canada. Eight pregnant women were vaccinated and they all eight lost their pregnancies. Yeah right it's really all of this stuff about all these vaccines are safe and effective it's just not true. Eight out of eight yeah and there's I mean they're after the fact there's not anything that that they can do plus there's the ongoing risks that the mother has passed that because that initial vaccine we you obviously you can point to and say pregnant on Monday vaccinated on Tuesday no longer pregnant by Thursday there's there's a direct correlation to that but now going forward you have to ask the question okay what is this going to mean for her ability going forward to have a baby? Well Pastor Greg that's a big unknown and you know like I've said so many times the largest group of vaccine injured are the people who don't know yet that they're having trouble for example the people who haven't yet had their first heart attack they haven't yet had their first stroke they haven't yet had their first bone or embolus and they haven't yet had a lot of trouble with pregnancy so but the big question is will these women ever become pregnant again and another question is if they do become pregnant and if they have a child born alive what's going to happen to that child will that child be altered permanently and have permanent difficulties with pregnancy we don't know any of those things so safety it just that kind of went out the window you know with all this. Right well and again you know because I want to make sure that folks understand when you're when you're raising that as a concern you're doing so predicated on personal experience with individuals that are struggling through these challenges not based on just hypotheticals but based on these are realities and and you're helping to walk individuals through this process.

Absolutely these are real people with real problems. Now I know that your patients are advised don't get the vaccine and and and there's advice that you give that's a part of the book that you've written but there's advice that you give new mothers to steer them away from from these threats talk to me about about some of those things and and I guess in particular what what I think might be helpful is is what are some of the things that people assume that that tend to initially get them headed in the wrong direction. Well there are many things that we we have opportunities during prenatal care and that's what we're talking about when you you know you use the word steering and that's something that I have used for many years and there are people who maybe don't know what steering means but steering means you can choose your outcome and in that choice is going to work for probably more than 95% of people so what you need in order to have that choice work out you need to have a doctor who will listen and the patient needs to feel free to talk.

The other thing I think that's really important and that we don't have much of today is one doctor that is you see that same person every time you go in. That's one of the things I liked about my obstetric care because I got to know my patients I got to know their husbands because I wanted them to come in and the children so let's just take for example one thing like blood pressure you know you're probably familiar with Tori Bowie the fastest woman on the earth you know she could run fast okay but anyway she was found dead in her bed at home at eight months along and she had labor so she and the baby both died. Well if you look at the way to the baby it was 1.8 pounds well what when is 1.8 pounds appropriate for pregnancy well that's at 26 weeks. So there were 10 weeks when somebody could have intervened and made a difference for her and for her baby so it wasn't a surprise now the only way this makes any sense is if she didn't get prenatal care at all but if she did it was pretty bad and what they should have been looking for is the one first high blood pressure and I discovered that on my own about 40 years ago that is preeclampsia which is a pregnancy specific condition in other words you will never have it if you're not pregnant and it doesn't matter how healthy you are like Tori Bowie was very healthy so pregnancy and nothing really protects you good health doesn't matter but what does matter is that one first high blood pressure. Now usually what happens is you get one high blood pressure and then they'll go down for a while okay it doesn't matter that it goes down what matters is that patient needs to be identified at the first high blood pressure and that's what I did you know it so no prenatal or no maternal mortality in my 6,000 patients right right and that that's because we had I had a good relationship with my patients and I I trusted what they told me right and I acted on the results from my interview and from my examinations so that first that that first high blood pressure and and and and so you so let let's play this scenario you have a young lady that that comes to you and presents and she is pregnant you have a positive test and and now I don't know if she's a month in or or six weeks in and and she comes in and you register a high blood pressure on her as she comes into your office now what? Well yes thank you because what you're doing is you're leading into a specific patient that I can remember very well okay came in with blood pressure you know ordinarily we'd like to see a blood pressure of 110 over at 70 that's pretty much considered ideal okay well came in with a 135 over 88 so right off the bat she's hypertensive so I'm thinking you know I'm a young doctor what do I do with this patient and one of the problems that young doctors have is they don't have experience so they can't look at all the patients in the past and say I managed this one successfully and this is how I did it anyway in those days we gave a tenel so I did and we got her pressure down a little bit and then the second trimester came in her pressure dropped a little more and this lady actually went on all her whole pregnancy to deliver that term a nine pound three ounce baby boy so everything went fine but in those days we worried about will this treatment do any good for mother or for baby and will it hurt anybody so we had all of those things to think about but in this case it didn't hurt anybody and it did it was fine but we have usually what happens is mothers come in with a normal blood pressure and say about oh maybe 30 weeks or 35 weeks they'll pop up a high blood pressure like say you know 130 over 80 something like that if that's what they do then I go we do lab tests to make sure that we're not dealing with something called help syndrome which is where the liver capsule can rupture get kidney failure or you get bleeding troubles so you rule that out and then you modify activity for example if mom works 12 hour three 12 hour days you get her to work five six hour days and if that doesn't work you know quit the job completely but for the most part the message that I really want to leave with you and your audience is that these things are manageable we don't need to die we don't even need to get really sick they're manageable but it's important that there's communication between the patient and the doctor so that you can get the right counsel and then identify what you need to do in order to get the situation under control including in some instances bedrest yes you're absolutely right communication is really important and that's what makes all of this work you know years ago I found that educating my moms was not only effective but fun and it's really a whole process of informed consent and today of course we do have like we have threats on the first amendment we also have threats on informed consent there are especially in the last few years doctors who say it's my way or the highway you know you better do what I tell you to do or else and that is that's actually against informed consent because it part of informed consent is autonomy that is the patient's ability to make a decision that's good for her self or himself well it seems counter-intuitive right to a degree I mean I understand in some instances when you have an obstinate patient that you know you can see by the things that they're doing you know you suggested you know reducing workload as an example in order to get the blood pressure situation under control but that patient keeps working that you know 36 hour week and keeps pushing and so on and each time that you see them you know you see that there's an issue or you see a situation where they're you know they're consistently going you know they're calling and they're coming in and they're saying hey I don't feel well or this is going on to that and you say well you know here's what you need to do and then they go on and they do whatever it is sorry I got a little gnat here they go on and they do what they're doing and then and then you turn right around and you know and I can see at that point that you're gonna be kind of you're gonna try to lay the law down to a certain degree but that's because of the interaction you're having and you know that they're not doing what it is that you've asked them to do those are two different scenarios I would think well there's one scenario that's in the middle pastor Greg and that is compromise years ago I had a quads mom come in to see me and she was smoking cigarettes okay and so I said could you please quit she said I can't so I said okay fine can you live with one cigarette a day and so in in that case I won because she smoked nine less cigarettes a day and she won because she smoked one cigarette a day so sometimes negotiation works and compromise works. When you talk about you know a 6,000 pregnancies with with no mortalities no moms no babies lost obviously you know communication skills is is a big part of that but what what were some of the other I don't know tips or pieces of advice that that you felt were were key and again I can we tell tell folks about your book because we want to encourage them to pick that up. Well we yes it's called pregnancy or way and what we're trying to do there is to give to the public the idea that they can drive or steer their pregnancy in other words you like I said 95% of pregnancies are going to wind end well but what we'd like to do is make them better you know how much how much can we optimize your pregnancy to give you the very best result so that was what we're trying to communicate there and the second part of that title is choose a safe and happy birth and everybody we didn't want to spend a lot of time scaring people right we really tried to put it into a positive approach because in like my grandmother said you catch more flies with honey than you do with vinegar because who wants flies but the point is that you knew I the message I had would have scared people but I realized I realized I had to also give them something that they wanted to hear not only what they needed to hear so that's what the book is all about you can get it pregnancy your way and that's Lindemann if you don't do Lindemann you'll get about for 40 pregnancy books so pregnancy your way Lindemann and that's at Amazon then of course you've already talked about Lindemann MD yeah we also have thinkific and we have our free quad video on that I think we probably talked about that before we talked about a little bit today but part of the problems and this was a very complicated situation for my quads parents because in obstetrics and infertility for babies is considered a mistake so they want to fix the mistake and they want to fix the mistake by reducing the number of babies from four to two so I was the fourth doctor she had seen she had seen three doctors who wanted to reduce the number of babies from four to two okay so anyway she said we want to have four babies I said well yes I think I understand this is going to be all or nothing but what they couldn't do was to discriminate you know right who's going to be left yep anyway we have our free quads video they're 22 years old on there and they're all living and all healthy now they're 25 years old but the quads video is free and that's unsinkific okay I know last time that you were on there were some key things that we dialogued about a little bit afterwards so I don't want to miss the opportunity to afford you to be able to make sure that we cover those we've got about six minutes left as we've spoken today what comes to your mind that we haven't touched on that you want to make sure you express well I think on a positive note and we've talked about this before listening you want to find a doctor who will listen to you and you want to be able to express yourself now one of the things I think that really works well for pregnancy is what we call a diary you know you can write in there every day or you know every other day however you want to do it but remember when you're writing your diary the attitude of gratitude is important to be thankful for something every day and you can be thankful for the same thing every day if you want to for a while then from your diary which is very personal for you take two or three concerns that you have write them down and bring them to your doctor if you bring the whole diary the doctor will be overwhelmed and kind of shut down because they're restricted to about a 10-minute process with you so try to select you know two or three important issues to talk to the doctor about so that would be my positive advice for the day. Mark and relative to those you know determining what those top two or three things are can you can you give some counsel as to what what you're most interested in hearing I mean on understanding that you know right transparency and all of that but but I'm not talking about that I'm talking about you know things that she might be experiencing especially a first time pregnancy a woman who you know is experiencing pregnancy for the first time yes they read and so on but it seems to me there are probably nuances that they're not going to understand about changes in their body and things that are happening in just overall that you know until your second or third pregnancy you're not paying attention to necessarily. Well you know one of the most important things and also you were talking about nuances movement baby's movement okay I would say more moms have concerns about that than just about anything else and I think we talked about this a little bit last time yeah yeah yeah so they would have a parameter they would know how to check the movement and how to tell me about it and you had mentioned last time if I'm if I'm remembering correctly that that you and that you expect that there should be movement how often and and and then something else you talked about was was like rolling on their side or something if I'm remembering correctly to share that I don't remember it exactly but I just remember you if I if my if I'm jogging the right file something about rolling on your side and then a certain number of movements per hour per day something to that effect well your memory is good Pastor Craig okay so we call this a left lateral decubitus which is between the left side and the back so it's just kind of a little bit of that huh that gets the baby off of the big vessels in the belly so that you don't get that confused then it's the second half hour you start the second half hour after you're done eating it so the noon meal or you know the dinner meal or whatever you call it so if you're done eating say at noon and start your test at 12 30 and test until one most women will get 10 movements in the first 10 or 15 minutes and if they do then they're done okay you know if you want to take the full half hour and like I think I said this is one movement that's two movements okay so baby kicks and recoils that's two movements ah okay most moms will understand that and do very well I've really a lot thought that was a good test for moms and how often do you recommend that they do that well it certainly doesn't the nice thing about it is it's not expensive and you don't have to worry about insurance so you can do it once a day that will make you feel I mean more comfortable you get to know what baby's doing well and I would think that you know as we finish up to you know a mother's state of mind in the pregnancy translates significantly I would think to the health of that child can you speak to that as we close out well yes thank you and that's one of the reasons I like to see mom's myself and that I like to see them with their husbands and their children because mental state comfort security confidence all of those things bode very well for a good outcome it also has practical application for example we talked about I think last time when mom says she's almost done she says I can't do this anymore and then you have to reach into the psyche and say yes you can and you're doing great right but the doctor or the provider has to know what to reach in for you know how are you gonna get this person to the finish line yeah to the finish line right right right the the the right pep talk at the right time exactly and that's where you know where dad becomes so critical where the where the husband you know becomes so critical and sadly today we see so many single women trying to have babies on their own men it's it you know it's your responsibility to step up because it's at these moments we're talking about right now that it's so critical that she hears that reassuring voice and and that translates to the child so so readily well you're absolutely right and that's why I really like to see husbands and dads in the prenatal course because that helps them know what they can do that really strengthens that relationship so amen thank you for summarizing that thank you doctor for being with me today I greatly appreciate it lindamanmd.com lindamanmd.com you can pick up the prank the link for the pregnancy book right there at the website as well as continue to get information if you've got questions for the doctor I'm sure you can send them to him and he'd be happy to answer them for you dr lindaman thank you for being with us today I greatly appreciate it thank you so much pastor Greg I appreciate your invitation we're going to take our leave for today Texas Fully Loaded starting right now here on TECN TV stay tuned to TECN TV you can watch it at TECN TV or right here at childrengenerationradio.com and we'll be back with you tomorrow with more great programming coming up I'll be back