CGR FRIDAY 082523 Don Jans March to Marxism Charles Cole Did Putin Kill Again

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Anything goes. You are teaching children adult child sex, you're teaching transgender issues, and children are moldable and influenced by that. They said, okay, now we need you and your team to be able to explain what homosexuality is to a four-year-old student. To introduce this kind of material at that age, frankly, it's child abuse. We're going to teach our children that it's okay for any two children of any age of any sex to have sexual intercourse with each other as long as two components are present. One's using a condom and they both give consent.

Did I hear that correctly? It's not a neutral venue. There's no such thing. The schools are doing your job. They are discipling your children, but they're not discipling them in the faith of Jesus Christ. It's only the exceptional child that even survives that system. Most do not survive.

Most have not survived. They believe that children are sexual from birth and that they deserve and have the right to be sexually active and to seek sexual pleasure. And if anyone is stopping them from that, then you are judging and oppressing them. Even kindergarten now, they're wanting to teach them more and more perverse information and acts and put that into the children's minds. And once that poison is in the child's mind, it doesn't leave. They'll always remember what they learned. And it's by design, it's orchestrated.

In my humble opinion, it will be worse before it gets better. You just said it's not a natural thing. It's a natural thing. There's no such thing as a natural thing. No, it's not a natural thing. And there's a natural thing that you can do.

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We'll see. Anyway, I wanna welcome my next guest to the program. He joins me here each and every Friday. By the way, need to let you know, next Friday, I'm taking a break. So all next week I'm off. I'm gonna be just taking a pause to refresh. And so I will not be putting up a program. I don't know.

There may be some program that goes up, older programming, but I am not gonna be doing a show. I'm taking a week off. And then I will be back the day after Labor Day. And we are gonna be back at it in full regalia because, boy, oh, boy, we're gonna be... We're in the battle. We're in the battle. We'll talk about that right now with Don Jans, My Grandchildren's America. And that is why we encourage you.

You can send a donation, but we encourage you to pick up these books because what you will learn will be phenomenal, but what you will be able to have as far as tools to share with your friends that don't know is critical. Let's see. Why don't we start with... Yeah, let's start with Goodbye, Constitution, Freedom of America. What do you think about that? That's a good one to start with. That book was written because people don't understand this Marxism, this evil has been penetrating our society for a long, long, long, long time. And this is like a novel. It's about this young kid that starts to understand that this is penetrating every aspect of American society, what he does and what happens to him.

And it really becomes prophetic. The next book that I think we need to look at, and again, we're laying the ideological foundations is Road to Tyranny. Road to Tyranny we're on, and this talks about what is the difference between community and individualist, collectivism and individualist. Both Jamestown and Plymouth were started as collectivist communist communities.

They both would have totally failed. We would never have heard of them if they had not changed individualism and how we progressed then, our nation progressed on that road to individualism and then how we started to change and go down the road of collectivism or communism. You have to understand what this movement is because it is part of our whole society. Which then I think leads well into Two Visions of America. We were started as a nation, we are a very, very unique nation. We understood that all of our rights and our liberties come from God. They do not come from man nor government, that they are natural rights. While we are being told, and all communists do this, they say no entitlements that the government give you, they are rights. So what is your vision of America? Rights that come from God or rights that come from man and government?

Understand because we're going down the wrong road. And then one of the great debates of today is this term, and you hear this all the time Don, people say well, we need to make sure we protect our democracy. People don't understand what the difference is between republic or democracy. Our founders specifically formed us as a republic, it was not by chance.

They understood the differences between republic and democracy. During the Constitutional Convention, they had a vote on should we be a democracy. That vote was zero people voted for democracy. It was a unanimous vote against democracy.

Why? Because democracy is ruled by man. Democracy is not ruled by law.

And the majority of whatever the ruling body is, and listen to what I said, the majority of whatever the ruling body is, the ruling body changes continuously. And we were told, well, Aristotle told us democracy always becomes dictatorship. And our founders said we will not be a dictatorship. We will not be under the emotional whims of man.

So understand what those differences are. Marx also told us that it is essential that the proletariat win the fight for democracy. We are not a democracy. We are a republic. Although I that I should restate that we were started as a republic for becoming a democracy, setting brushfires of freedom. What do we do? How do we combat this?

Right? We have to remember that when we began, more of the vast majority of people in America did not want us to revolt from England. And Samuel Adams, the father of the American Revolution, said no, we have to revolt, we have to get away from England, we have to start our own country. And he had this vision of this unique America. And he told us, he said, it does not take a majority to prevail.

It takes a tireless and irate minority keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men. I go back and I talk about Samuel Adams and what he did. And then I talk about how do we actually set those brushfires of freedom? We don't argue. We don't fight. We don't debate. We set brushfires of freedom in the minds of our families, in the minds of our neighbors, our acquaintances and other people. And we have failed to do that. We must get back to doing that. The next book that's coming, and it's in its final proofing, is Fundamental Transformation. What did Obama mean? Don, can I really quickly just suggest to folks, we just went through those five books for you to give you a sense and a preview of them.

We are offering all five of those books for a donation of $100 or more. And as you know, a great portion of what we do, we're doing two things. Look at the shows that we have. As a matter of fact, Tim Sheff was talking about that this morning. He said, man, I got your email and I was looking at, you know, my goodness, the guests that you've had, the topics that you've been covering.

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We put out the prayer to reverse the vax effects. I mean, there's so many. Carrie Lake was on with us. There are so many great programs that are up at our chosen generation radio show rumble site that you can watch border threats when the world was turned upside down 1968 and how Billy Graham changed the course of America by ushering in Richard Nixon and stopping what could have been a civil war between the Democrats and the Republicans after the 1968 riots that happened at their convention. What does a conservative Republican and Christian look like? Defining how our foundation has been hijacked. What does a Christian candidate look like? Bishop E.W. Jackson is running for president. And he talks about that. The assault on the conscience of children.

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Just type in your number. As my friend evangelist Greg Romine likes to say, he says that's $1,000 and it's spelt with a T. And certainly you can, you know, we'd be happy to accept a donation of $1,000. I just can't even tell you what a difference that could make. We're going to be doing a gigantic outreach. Not next week because we're taking a break.

And part of the reason I'm taking a break is we're taking a break with our services. But the following week, our goal is to bring 2,500 people into a meeting in India to share the gospel of Jesus Christ. All right, Don. So I just want to folks to understand, you know, how they can be blessed by receiving the books and then go to the website chosengenerationradio.com and click on the donate button.

But also sign up for the email and you'll get the emails and you'll get the information about how, you know, the shows that we have and you'll get notifications about that stuff. So there you go. Please continue, sir. I'm going to talk about this fundamental transformation because it's so, so, so critical and it bears on every aspect of our American life. We have to understand what is a communist country. Well, first of all, a communist country cannot become a country of communism until, I sounded like Kamala Harris, I'm sorry. A communist country must be an atheist bound country first. Christianity and communism cannot go together.

They are water and oil. They absolutely are totally the opposite. So the first thing people have to do and if they're going to fundamentally transform us is they have to start to instill atheism within a country. We were started and folks, I don't care what anybody says, it's wrong. We were started as a Christian nation, a Christian nation based on the teachings of the Bible with Jesus Christ as the center. Don't ever forget that. That's our, that is our beginning. That's another thing that made us extremely unique. In order for communism to come into play, they have to change us to an atheist country.

That's number one. Number two, we were started as a republic. A republic cannot become a communist nation. There's lots of reasons for it and I talk about it in Republic or Democracy, but a republic is based on the law. We wrote our law into our constitution. Today, we no longer adhere to the constitution.

We no longer adhere to the law, but individuals make off the cuff rulings as to what the law is. That is communism. So atheism, they have to change us to a democracy which they are doing and when they change us to a democracy, then you can start to have man-made rules. Then, we have to become a socialistic nation. A socialistic nation is in that, it would be that process where all of our, all wealth, all productive property, people no longer have ownership to anything. Marx did make an exception. Marx said that those who work for, who work for their wages can own their clothes.

They could own a very small home, but anybody who receives any income outside of their actual wages, that is working with your hands, building things, working, being a part of the proletariat, you cannot own anything. Then once you, once we have become an atheist nation, we become a democracy and productive property is now going into the hands of the state and we're becoming a socialist country, then we start to have total bureaucratic rule. Bureaucratic rule means that you and I have no say in how we're being governed. We can elect all the officials we want, but they don't have any authority.

All of the authority comes from the center of the party of bureaucrats who have been installed into these different agencies that now rule our lives. This was what Obama set out to do. Obama set out to politicize all of the departments like the EPA, which has tremendous control. EPA can tell a farmer whether or not they can plant seed in their land, whether or not they can plow their land. He started to politicize the Department of Justice and the FBI.

How did he do this? He set his communist comrades into power in these two agencies where they can no longer be fired according to the rules set up by the communists. They have said that certain bureaucrats cannot be fired by the executive branch. They've taken total power away from the elected officials. This is the road we are on right now and communism gets down to the point where they tell you how you can live your life.

I mean every aspect of your life. I heard on the news today that the government's now going to try and come out and tell you how much alcohol you can actually consume. What business is that of the government? They tell us everything we can do, everything we cannot do. They tell us when we can have vacation, what clothes we can or cannot buy. And in fact, there are cities following the C40 regulations right now where they're trying to implement where you can only buy three new sets of clothes for Europe. What you can drive, what you can't drive, that is communism that dictates how you live your life, choices you make, and even thoughts you can have. If you don't think along their way, you will be ostracized, demonized, and we're finding out that you will be eliminated and that's happening in the United States right now.

Never was our nation established where we would have political prisoners and political prisoners abound in our nation today because of lawless judgment. Well and the thing, you know, too, relative to that, a lot of people are asking, you know, what's going to happen, you know, about the masks and are they reinstituting that? I have a friend of mine who was, who took a flight this morning and before he boarded the flight this morning, he said that he commented to a TSA agent while they were washing hands in the restroom that he heard they are going to release a new virus. He smiled like he knew what I was talking about and said, yeah, they are ramping up. I said, yeah, I heard Bill Gates has been working on a new virus.

He shrugged and said, well, election season is starting and smiled as they parted ways. You know, I'm hearing mid-September is when masks will begin on flights and by December, it's going to be a total mask vax shutdown scenario by this December in preparation for the election season coming up next year. This is Marxism. This is totalitarianism and this is Marxism and I just, I caution you to be mindful and be aware. And if you comply, you are condoning.

Absolutely. Anytime we, anytime we comply with unlawful on constitutional type orders, we are condoning those unlawful on constitutional type orders. I also see now where, where Maryland, a judge, and folks, judges are very prejudicial human beings now. Judges no longer administer the law. Judges believe it is their, it is their duty to make law. Well, that's totally unconstitutional. A Maryland judge said that parents cannot take their kids out of their LGB alphabet, whatever the rest of the letters are, teachings that they have to adhere.

This, this has become universal. You have to get your kids out of public schools. If you're living in any of those areas, you just have to. It's, it's, it's really, really scary to see what, what is taking place. And I just encourage you folks to, you know, be aware and, and, you know, stay on top of this and, and yeah, by whatever means necessary, protect your children. Especially from, from the, the radical LGBTQ agenda and, and monitor the teachers because they are doing things behind the parents' back, sadly, intentionally.

And, and school boards, the same thing, monitor your school board. They're doing the same thing. All right, we got to take our break. Charles Cole joins me on the other side. We're going to talk about the Prigozian situation.

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And welcome back to Chosen Generation Radio where no topic is off limits and everything is filtered through biblical glasses. And very pleased, you know, just in the last 48 hours, word has come out that Progozion may have gone down in a plane crash and possibly may be dead. Now, the thing that we need to understand about that piece of information is that Russia is famous for what's called disinformation. Now, it would seem to make sense that that would happen, although there were many who suggested that, in fact, you know, why wasn't he eliminated immediately after the initial reported coup? Why did it take so long for that to happen? My next guest began his study of Russia while in the army at the Defense Language Institute, where he studied Russian six hours daily, five days a week for 18 months.

Back when I did it, it was a 47-week course, so that's not quite the same length of time. He then served at an army security agency border listening post in West Germany monitoring Soviet military radio communications. After his service in the military, he received a Bachelor of Arts degree from Kent State University in 1972, and he joined the United States Information Agency, USIA. That was a cultural exchange exhibit, which was really an intelligence gathering apparatus of the United States government to send individuals over into countries like Russia, to gather information. And they had the same kind of thing that they would do. So there would be an exchange between a Russian and an American, and they'd go into each other's countries, and it was, everybody knew, it was all about spying.

He was then hired to teach Russian to American military personnel at the same Defense Language Institute that he'd been trained at as well, and worked in a number of duty assignments along that same line at DOI until his retirement in 2002. He has been here with us before, and it is my pleasure to welcome back Charles Cole. Charles, welcome. Good to have you. Thanks for being here today. Good to see you, brother.

Glad to be here. Well, so big news about this situation with Rogozhin. You know, it's interesting. When this all took place, I had on actually the New York Consulate General for Poland. And we talked about because not long after, you know, Progozhin and all of that took place. Then you had some bombing that happened right along the Polish Belarus, Ukrainian border, and Progozhin had been kind of sent up into Belarus. The Belarus president supposedly negotiated the peace between Progozhin and Putin. But it seemed as though there may even have been an effort at that point to establish some military activity in Belarus for the purpose potentially of an assault on Poland. Because we know that Putin's goal, as you and I discussed previously, is to advance and to recreate the Russian Empire. So I bring you on today to kind of, you know, dig back down into this and talk about in light of now the apparent death of Progozhin. What are the implications of that in your in your thought process? Well, the first implication of the whole thing is it sends a very clear message to anyone inside the Russian Federation, whether it's military or whatever, that if you, as the Kosa Nosry used to say, if you mess with the deboss, you're going to pay the price.

And so I was listening last night to a radio show and they had a guest on who was a retired Brigadier General Air Force. He had been heavily involved in European things. And he said, and he reminded me of this, I'd forgotten about it, but Putin very early in his term, and very early, of course, in this Ukrainian operation, he said publicly, he said, well, we can, you know, we can agree and disagree and talk about things. He said, but the one thing that we cannot deal with is Izmirna, which is his Russian for treachery, betrayal, etc. He won't deal with it.

He won't put up with it. And you have to understand what's happened here. You have to, again, go back to some history. The two quotes that I like to cite from Vladimir Putin to show you who he is. He said very shortly after the fall of the Soviet Union, he looked back on it and he said, the demise of the Soviet Union was the greatest geopolitical tragedy of the 20th century. That gives you a little clue about who the guy is. He was Soviet KGB, all of his adult life.

And whether President Bush looked in his eyes and saw its soul, I don't know. But if he did, well, as you know, Satan can appear as an angel of light. The other quote is, and this is about, oh, this is a few years after he became president of the Russian Federation. He was given an interview with a foreign correspondent and the correspondent said, well, now, Mr. Putin is a former KGB man.

And he held up his fingers and said, stop. He said, first of all, there is no such thing as a former KGB. So given those two statements, I trust what he said a little bit more than what somebody might have seen in his eyes, because that gives you a window into who and what he really has been, all of his adult life. Now, if you fast forward to the Prigozhin era, then what happened was, he was a friend of Vladimir Putin.

In fact, he worked with him. He didn't have any high positions there, but he was associated with Putin for several years. And in 2014, shortly after the Crimean Peninsula, the Crimean people, the Russians down there, and I spent a couple of days in Crimea, I guarantee you, I never a syllable Ukrainian, not one. It was all in Russian. So the Russians had this plebiscite down there and they voted something like 80 to 20 to get out of the Ukraine and secede in Ukraine and join the Russian Federation. Well, Putin knew that that was going to create some hostile feelings. And he said, by that time, 2014, the Ukrainians were getting rather frisky with Russians. And so he formed this Wagner Group, which was, well, it was a paramilitary and in some ways a full military organization, but it was all volunteers, private. It's funded by the Russian government, but it was private. And he put Prigozhin in charge of that, sent him down there. They also got involved that same year, 2014, in a lot of the fighting that was, that we saw the news from the two provinces of Eastern Ukraine, which again were fairly recently after the invasion of Ukraine, they voted to secede from Ukraine and join the Russian Federation.

That's the Donetsk, the Lugansk. But is that, I mean, supposedly that's what they voted to do. But I, you know, I mean, in a Russian election, you are going to, the vote's going to turn out the way in which, you know, Putin and the occupying force wants it to turn out. It's not really a matter of, oh, yeah, we're going to give you, you know, we like to think that we have a free election here.

And I know there's a lot of conversation about that as well. But in a very, very dramatically real sense in Russia, you don't have a choice. Yeah, well, of course, the history of elections in Russia. During the Soviet times, elections were mandatory. You better show up.

And if you didn't, if you didn't vote the right way, you get the four o'clock in the morning, knock on the door. So, yeah, there's that factor. But also another factor in Donetsk, for example, I spent six weeks in Donetsk back during the exhibit ties. And I did not hear one syllable of Ukrainian spoken. That one was all in Russian. Wow.

It's a complex feature. But the point here as to Gorin is that, yeah, he was sent there also to shore up the some people call it the secessionist movement, whatever. But it was a it was a Russia versus Ukraine thing in those two provinces. So given all that background, all of a sudden and in this current invasion in twenty, twenty two, whenever it started, I guess, February twenty, twenty two, the Wagner Group, with some of the initial people that were sent in there into Ukraine, they were already deployed down there in the in the Donetsk and the Lukansk area.

So they just used them as frontline soldiers in the first waves of that attack. Now, what happened was, though, over time, the story goes that we got a little bit impatient, you know, with with this everybody expected. And I myself included, when I heard that the Russian forces had gone into Ukraine, I said, well, this should be an interesting four week war. Well, it didn't turn out that way.

And it was very dissatisfied with it. But also, I suspect started to feel like, wait a minute, we're kind of the cannon fodder that would send in there early, but we're not getting the support from Moscow that we need. So very recently, I think just a few months ago, there was this reported rebellion where where Wagner troops were headed towards Moscow. And then supposedly it was negotiated between Lukasz and and and it wasn't to say, OK, stand down. The point to remember, though, is back to that original statement that Putin had made at the very start of a lot of this.

The one thing he would tolerate is disloyalty. Right. That's your reason.

Right. People are people then began to say. And I said to my wife at the time, oh, well, so so much for a precaution.

I even came up with a little saying in Russia there because also you pretty good. It means, well, it wasn't didn't didn't match up. He didn't he didn't answer the bell. Right. Well, people thought, oh, well, then they're just going to shoot him in the head and that'll be the end of that. But these guys work in a little different way.

They don't like the direct association. And Putin dealt with but he goes on at that time, the way he dealt with people like him to get shot to death on a bridge in Moscow. Right. And there would have been no question as to who did it by allowing him. They actually sent him to Africa for a short period of time.

And all of a sudden he chose back up in Russia. But the point is, I guess in Putin's mind, it's a feature amount of time had passed to give him one of these plausible deniability, awesome deniability to this plane blowing up. But when I first heard this report a couple of days ago when it happened. Right. The thing that that caught my eye right away is it was reported that Igorin and six of his top lieutenants were aboard that flight. Well, that ruled out the possibility of an accident to me. Right. We've heard intel reports, everything from somebody was trying to report that it was a missile that took it down near Tver, which is between Moscow and anywhere else. Well, I mean, that story was withdrawn.

So you hear a lot of different versions. I think what happened was there's no doubt there was a there was an airborne explosion. Right. That that thing registered for everybody to see. Now, I assume that that because it was on board that flight and his lieutenants were aboard that flight and somehow it just incinerated in midair a bomb more than likely. So now I don't doubt for a second that that this was payback and also a deep warning to anybody else who thought, well, you know, we're getting bogged down in Ukraine and maybe we need to. Butin said, no, no, this is our war and we're going to fight it my way. And if you get in my way, you'll just point to a picture of Igorin on the wall at his funeral or whatever. They were covered his bones, I guess, Barry. But that's the message clear, pure and simple to the to everybody from his generals right on down through the privates and everybody else.

Don't mess with the boss. There's there is also some conversation about Wagner group, you know, unrest amongst amongst the Wagner group over this situation. Is there any thought in your mind of of any kind of fragmentation whatsoever? And and how how secure Do you think Putin is? Is there a communist Politburo of sorts behind? You know, the hardliners that are more hardline than even Putin? That are that are that are pushing any anything? Do you have a sense of that? Well, let's deal with the first part of your question first.

No, I don't think I don't think there's any going to be any Wagnerian to steal a fun attempt to do anything like that from now on. For two reasons. Number one, they already saw what happened to the guy who tried it first. And number two, people are not. It sounds like to me, as I look at this war developing, the Ukrainians, they are just dirt short of personnel on the ground. They're running out of people. And I think this is I think Putin is waging a war of attrition because he's got a lot more forces than the Ukraine does. And I think he's just going to keep wearing them down. So I don't think anybody for those two reasons how I don't think there's going to be any movement inside Wagner or anybody else in that direction ever again.

Now, as to the second question. You know, again, the other thing to understand about Putin and the whole system they they put together, it's it's kind of a mixture between old KGB style stuff and the mafia, because that's the way this is run. And in the mafia, sure, ever once in a while, there's an underboss that kind of thinks, you know, this guy's getting a little weak, maybe I can knock him off, take over the whole organization. I don't think as far as people being more hardline than like Putin, I can't imagine that because he he's already stuffed his flagpole in the ground and in a move.

And so I don't think that there's anybody in that oligarchical system that says criminality anywhere near strong enough to take him on. If you look at I listen to his he does an annual address to the Russian woman. And I usually listen to it in Russian because sometimes the translations are not quite subtle enough. Listen to the one that he gave here.

There's the most recent one. And it was absolutely unambiguously clear that this was not something that was going to end up in an unfavorable light for the Russian Federation. Now, these guys don't say that kind of stuff unless they really mean it, because that's the signal to everybody in the system. Hey, pension. The boss just spoke.

Now click your heels and do what we need to do to get this thing done. I wish the Ukrainians well, I don't, you know, but given the realities on the ground, I other than some kind of foreign troop involvement and help us if we get involved in that again, I don't see any way that the Ukrainian forces as short as they are on combat personnel, you know, we're gonna we're gonna now send them a train their F 16 pilots. Well, this Air Force retired general just said yesterday said that's nice. But he said this is gonna take it's gonna take a good six months to get them trained up. And then you have the F 16, which really isn't designed for that level of combat in that scenario in that theater.

So it gets complex when you dig down into the reason you go back up to the 30,000 foot view of it. I think Putin is sitting there very, very satisfied. He may he may say things that every once in a while that people might think the the only way out of this now for the Ukraine is to swallow hard and go with the diplomacy route because they're they're not going to prevail militarily over the Russian Federation. It's just happened.

And to realize that that, you know, in diplomacy, it's one of those deals where you give some and you get some. I don't think there's any way God's green earth that Putin is ever going to pull Russian forces out of the Crimea or out of the the UNESCO. That's scary. Those areas are gone to the Ukraine.

They might as well forget about it. Save what you still have before this guy ruins the rest of your country. That's that's the only option for Ukraine that I see now as to as to how to do that. I think Donald Trump has been saying for for the last couple of months, says he's basically the same thing.

He said, God bless the Ukrainians. But he said the only way to deal with this is to sit down and and and foster negotiations. And as far as I can see, there is zero interest in that in the Biden administration. These guys that are running that I'm not talking about Joe Biden.

He's just the guy that's going like this. You know, they said on the text, probably from some Obama type, and he reads about a lot on the air. But the guys that are running the show from behind the scenes, I think there's a whole there's a lot of money, for example, that isn't that hasn't been accounted. It was a recent article, I think, in The Washington Post by a guy named Ilyanov, who used to be one of Putin's assistants until he came over here. And and he put a beautiful article up about the the funding, the supposed funding to Ukraine. And he said, don't believe these governmental figures, that amount of money is not back to the Ukrainians.

Somewhere that money is getting old, I would say skimmed off to the big guy, maybe. And so it just doesn't. It doesn't. It's it's a bad situation all the way around. You got to realize somewhere in the neighborhood of half a million people have lost their lives. Is there not a concern, though, that that that and and I, you know, I don't know necessarily how you specifically address it. But Vladimir Putin, my estimation, maybe you differ, is not going to stop at Ukraine. He is his interest isn't just in Ukraine. His interest is in the other satellites that the Soviet Union lost.

I think you did mention, and Putin has come out and said it, he's been saying it since the mid 90s. His intention is to restore the Soviet Union, and to take back those nations or countries that split off from that from that Soviet bloc. So in light of that, and I know people say, Oh, well, but he wouldn't challenge NATO. I, I, I don't, I don't think that that plays a role in his calculations any more so than, than then taking out progression.

I just I don't think that that that plays a role. He has a set goal of what he believes belongs to Russia. And he intends to take it back. Yeah, I would I would suggest one friendly amendment to your hypothesis that is that I think we said this before, isn't so much that he wants to reconstruct the Soviet Union as Soviet. He wants to reconstruct Catherine the Great's Russian Empire. Yeah, that's that's what he wants now.

Absolutely. That means that he I don't think there's any I don't think there's any logic behind the notion that he would want to reconstruct that he would want to again, acquire the Eastern European satellite countries. Now, when you talk about the politics, that may be a different story. You don't hold on. Let me you don't think he wants those satellite countries?

No, I don't think so. Okay, because here's the reason because he I think he got a little bit a little dose of reality in this whole matter because I think he expected that whole Ukrainian matter to be wrapped up in about six weeks. This has been kind of a shock to him and he started firing generals and, and head defense, defense, millions, etc. He I think he sees that the Russian military, it's not quite what he thought it was.

And so why would you risk? Let's say Poland, why would you risk going in there when you know that that's by treaty that's going to trigger a NATO response? Now they had trouble with Ukraine. Now he wants to take on the entire NATO establishment.

I don't think he thinks that way. I think what I think what he's going to try to do is finish up the Ukrainian thing in a positive fashion for him. And then they'll deal with the Baltic Republic's later to remember, they're also part of NATO.

And so he's he's got he's got he's juggling two or three balls in the air at the same time. He will never permit, by the way, Ukraine to join NATO. He's not going to have that. So at that threshold moment, when they may say, yeah, we're gonna notice how NATO backed off of that, when they had the discussions about whether Ukraine should be allowed into NATO, they gave a lot of lip service to it. Oh, yeah, good. You know, long live Zdansky and all that. But then, when it came time to actually say, let's do this, they backed off. And they said, ah, we have to form a committee and study this. Uh huh.

That was the end of that. So I think he has he probably has some short term and long term goals, although at his age, he's no spring chicken anymore either. And so he sees that he has to do what he has to do in the short term and then find some Putin Junior to hand this off to when he retires and and and let him deal with the rest of it. But I don't I don't see a scenario where he's going to go beyond a NATO border.

I just don't think much risk. And the KGB, remember, that's who he is. They always, always analyze the situation at different options. And they would always choose the option that had the minimum amount of risk. That's the way they run.

So so you don't see him. I'm just pulling up trying to pull up a map here of Catherine the Great Russia 1789. That that that basic empire. Now that butts up against Sweden. It does look like, let me see. Notice Crimea is part of it. Oh, yeah, no, I see that. Yeah, I see that. Well, and and and and virtually all of the rest of of Ukraine. Yeah, a good section of it. The stuff got very complex. The very idea of an independent Ukraine is almost an oxymoron. Because if you look historically, I mean, they were under the they were they were occupied by by forces 100 feet. Poland had them for like 300 years.

That's why when I listen to Ukrainian, I hear a lot of Polish because the languages have meshed in such a way that the Ukrainian language is a combination of Eastern Slavic roots from Russian and from Polish. Yep. All right. I'm gonna I'm gonna have to cut us off because we're right at the end of our time. Again, folks, I just want to let y'all know, I'm going to be taking a break next week, doing some refreshing. I will be back the day after Labor Day, Tuesday, September the fifth, but I will be taking a break for a week. And but I encourage you to stay tuned into TCN TV. And coming up next Texas fully loaded Sondra and the team taken over here on TCN TV.

God bless you have a very, very blessed and incredible weekend. And let me find the the spot. Let me see. That's not it. Hang on one second, folks.

I gotta I gotta I gotta locate where the where the connection is made. There we go. No.

Not that one either. Okay. All right. We got a couple more minutes.

Let's let's let's kind of try to wrap up this particular time. I think that's interesting what you said, Charles about about where he sees things coming to an end rather than a reestablishment of the former Soviet Union. Your thought is is that this now if I look on this map, so the that that area revolve St. Petersburg, it kind of seems to loop around. I guess in 18 in 1789, those little satellite countries that we just talked about in the what would that be the North East? You talk about the Baltics?

Yeah, the Baltics. Um, because I'm Okay, so let me let me look at. Well, I'll tell you, it's interesting. I'm I pull up a world map and now it gives you the option of being in Google. If I pull up Google, Google wants to take me to where I am. Which really hacks me off no matter what I put in.

Google won't recognize it. All right. So you've got Belarus. And then you've got Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia.

Let me see. Those are the Baltics. Yeah. Okay, so so on his lifetime, on on the on the on the Catherine the Great map, all of that is included in the Russian Empire.

Right. But if you do all the stuff that you see on that map of the Russian Empire without the three Baltics, you're probably talking 97% of that of that territory. And he knows he knows very well that the Baltics are an area where Russia and Russians are hated in the Balkans.

When I spent a few days in Thailand, in Estonia, if I wanted service in a restaurant, I spoke English because they would be you'd be moved to the end of the line. He knows all that. And he knows the history of the Balkans and the Baltics.

And I don't think he's going to mess with that on his watch. He'll leave that for Putin Junior later. The Ukraine is the big target. Don't forget why Crimea gives him the an extra the Black Sea port.

And also the eastern Ukraine gives him the natural gas, the coal, etc. That's what he Yeah. All right. All right. Well, we'll keep our eye on it and see, you know, I it's it's it's not going to end necessarily anytime soon unless somebody takes a very dramatic step.

And we that that's the other concern and the other danger. Thank you for being with me. I appreciate it. You bet. My pleasure. Thank you.

Uh huh. And we're clear. Okay, we're done. Yes, sir, we are already. If you would, if you would maybe email me the link when you stream this, I'd like to look at it again. Yeah. And again, I'll be in touch once the publishers get off their rear end and actually announce a release date to the book. And we'll talk again about that because