CGR THURSDAY 081723 Rabbi Yaakov Menken Robert Woodson

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We broadcast nationally and internationally across our media platforms as well. Also on the program today, John Euler will be with us. We'll talk about the trans agenda. We'll talk about Wander, the young shortstop playing for the Tampa Rays and that situation. And it's interesting. You know, it reminds me, it may well turn out to be another Tawana Brawley type of situation, Duke Lacrosse players. There's some background in there, and we'll see what happens, although there is an investigation open, as there should be.

But of course, there were investigations open regarding those situations as well. I'm talking about the Duke Lacrosse situation and Al Sharpton, who's the biggest farce that ever lived. At any rate, there you go.

I know. Well, whatever he wants to do, go ahead. Come on, Al. Come on the program and let's talk about how you damaged lives with those lives and continue to damage lives with your lives. Let's see. Also coming up today on the program, some of this next or bottom of this hour, we will have joining us on the show, Bob Woodson, Robert Woodson, Sr., founder and president of the Woodson Center. And we'll be talking with him and I'm sure he has a lot of interesting things to share that he could share about Al Sharpton, quite frankly.

So we'll talk about that. But joining me right now, and I'm so glad to have him back. It's been far too long.

Let me just put it that way. It's been far too long. And we met at CPAC many years ago. And what a joy to have had the opportunity to connect with him at CPAC. And then subsequently many times thereafter, I'm very pleased to welcome the president and founder of the Jewish Coalition on Values.

And I know I probably just munched that, but I have their website up. It's the coalition of Jewish values.org is the website too. Coalition of Jewish values. I want to welcome Rabbi Yakov Menken. Rabbi, welcome. Thank you so much.

Yeah, thank you so much for having me back. It's actually the coalition for Jewish values, just because coalition of would imagine like we're the repository. We don't claim to be the arbiters of Jewish values. Those are determined by that library. Yes, sir.

I spent thousands of dollars on that Zoom backdrop. You better appreciate it. But that's the idea that there are Jewish values and they're not being represented accurately in the public sphere. And actually, although you're right that I am the one running the show, chief clerk and bottle washer, my title is actually managing director because it's like a step back, a step down saying, look, we're just here to represent what the consensus of the traditionally educated rabbis is. All of this nonsense that you hear from the left is just crazy. And that's what we're here to correct. Well, and you know, you're probably the perfect person to ask this because this is a real pet peeve of mine. I've talked for years, as you have, as you know, we've talked for years about these values about the issues of abortion, the issues of traditional marriage, the LGBTQ agenda and what it was doing and its destruction on our culture and so on.

And people always say, I'm sure they say it to you, because they've said it to me. Oh, you're just interested in social issues. You just want to talk about social issues, as if, as if they're somehow a step below in importance to everything else.

How do you respond to that rabbi? That that question just begins from an outrageous place, because what they call social issues are actually the fundamental moral underpilling underpinnings of civilization itself. That is what the left is dedicated right now to tearing out and tearing down. And it's manifesting itself in all sorts of ways. When you have a society that is incredibly callous about life and property, that's how you have smash and grab robberies, where if somebody tries to get in your way, you shoot them. You know, this this the the fact that things are going out of control in the cities at the at the time when we are debating these issues and more and more, just saying, whatever Western civilization does is bad, which is all of course, based on biblical values, that stuff one after the other, it's all coming together.

It's all about the teardown of American society. So you know, I've heard this from libertarians, and I've heard it from conservatives. And I just want to be clear, I agree that the assault is coming from the liberals. But the but the play down and the minimization message is coming from conservatives and libertarians, who again say that these social issues that you and I are talking about these quote unquote moral issues are really not nearly as important as, you know, war, or the economy, or power grids or whatever. My argument is, is that you can't get any of that straight, if it's all imploding on a platform that's broken. Well, that's true. I mean, obviously, we see that technology is moving forward consistently, we are working together to make things like, well, the power grid, more reliable.

And of course, there are others who are economic experts who can debate about economic policy, although, of course, economic policy that takes away a person's individual property. Of course, that's our issue. Of course, we care about that, too. But you can't have, like you just said, any of that, if you don't have a fundamentally moral society, you know, if you have a society of, you know, the Germans were great at making the trains run on time. As Candace Owens said, if that's all Hitler said, cared about, keeping the trains running on time, we wouldn't have a problem. That's not, that's, you know, that only takes you so far.

You've got to have a society of people who are actually working together to build a better society. And that is what, you know, clearly is at risk right now. Well, and it speaks directly to the topic, you know, that we want to address regarding California and their assault on kids.

And, you know, I made some statements yesterday that were quite harsh. And I said, look, you know, where do patriots need to be? Well, they need to be in school board meetings, defending physically, if necessary, the rights of parents to defend their kids from pornographic material. For a mother to be standing in front of the school board, reading from a script that her daughter was required to act out in front of a classroom at nine, 10 years of age, a basically what would be a pornographic script in a pornographic film. And when she begins to read it, the school board says you can't read that because you're in a public place.

But her 10 year old daughter was able to do it in her classroom and was forced to buy the teacher as an assignment. Patriots need to be standing around her shielding her and making sure that the school board hears that message. And I said, we're at war.

What do I mean? There is a war on your children. There is a war on kids that is happening today in the school, in society, in the public arena. It is a war on children.

And we have to stand up against the evil. That's my point. It's something that every parent should be standing for and basically every decent American. This is not an issue where those who favor morals and values are in the minority.

Don't buy it. And don't let them call you bigots. They support the castration of minors. They're out of control. They're out of their mind.

They support the sexual assault of minors. You let boys, unaltered boys, decide that they're a girl and go into the girl's bathroom. And we've already seen it happen. So don't pretend.

Don't fake it. We had too many people from the NCAA swim team now complain that Leah Thomas was exposing himself, not herself, but himself, unaltered, in the women's bathroom. And we're talking about sexual assault survivors in the bathroom, in the changing room, in the locker room, in the showers, being exposed to a man against their will. This was sexual harassment by the NCAA and all eight colleges. And every one of those administrators ought to have been called in front of a judge.

But that's not what is happening today, because we're not demanding it. It's time to demand that they be hauled in front of a judge for involuntary sexual harassment. If you want to compete in our swim team, what you've worked all your life for, and you're a woman, Title Nine is out the window. You have no rights anymore. You have the right to have sexual assault and sexual harassment inflicted upon you while this guy takes your trophy away. That's the right that women have.

Every single woman who backs this stuff, backs her own submission to men who are simply misogynist and out of control. Stop it. Don't pretend that this is safe. Don't present that this is true or this is right. Having a daughter read a script that you yourself don't want read out in public at a school board meeting.

Well, that means that the teacher in question ought to be in front of a judge, doesn't it? We're not demanding it. We're not saying this is illegal. This is immoral. This is stupid.

This is bigoted. Nobody's saying it. Well, and Ram, I, you know, I, the other challenge is, is, you know, the sheriff in these counties should be in those meetings, listening to this evidence and then issuing arrests, pulling those people. I don't disagree with you.

That's what I've been saying. Pulling those people to jail and, and, and, and then, and if you have a district attorney that won't bring the necessary charges, then they need to be arrested. We just had a judge in Washington, DC.

This will sound unrelated for a minute, because it's clearly not. The judge said that when the laws are selectively enforced to be bigoted against a particular group, that is government trying to control the narrative. Throughout the BLM protests, protesters were drawing with chalk on sidewalks all over Washington, DC, and nobody was arrested. Two anti-abortion pro-life protesters right with chalk in front of an abortion clinic on public property, and they are arrested for the exact same crime that everybody else was allowed to do with impunity. That's called the government selectively controlling the narrative. That is why the judge said this can go back to false arrest and prosecution because the, again, Washington, DC being out of control. It's all about the government being controlled by this leftist narrative and saying, oh, we're only going to allow you to hear a certain perspective, or we're not going to allow you to say to us in a school board meeting what your daughter was forced to perform. It's like, okay, so you're, so Mr. President, you've just admitted that what my daughter was inflicted upon my daughter in her classroom was a crime, and you supported the commission of that crime.

Why are you not being hauled in front of a judge right now, along with that teacher, along with that principal, to answer for the crime that you have just admitted you committed? Absolutely. Pretty straight. Yeah, pretty straight.

Absolutely. Well, and that segues into what California law has passed now, and if I'm not mistaken, Rabbi, I thought I read, and I don't remember which state it was in, but I thought I read that there was another state that had a very similar law to that relative to essentially assaulting parents who would not go along with having their child mutilated. But I know California in particular was the first one that came out and basically said, bring your child, or actually don't even bring your child, child come to our state, and we are going to take you into custody, and we are going to administer the castration drugs. We are going to provide you with services to cut off your perfectly healthy breasts, and to change your gender by forming and creating body parts that don't exist, and we are going to hold you, and no one can come and take you from us.

Your parents have no right in our state. First of all, you know, it's completely true, but I want to stop you on one thing that you said, which is change your gender. That's a fraud. It's a lie from beginning to end. No matter how many surgeries you administer to mutilate a healthy human being, and no matter how many hormones, every single cell from conception to death is going to be either XX or XY or a very unfortunate genetic aberration. Those are the three options, and don't hide behind genetic aberrations as the left routinely does to claim that there are other genders.

There are two, and it's very clear. We're not just talking about the Bible over here. We're talking about Darwin. The idea that gender is something you can just play with means that reproduction goes out the window. None of the people who are given these treatments, especially the surgical ones, but even the hormonal ones, it affects their ability to reproduce for life, for life.

It's gone. They will never experience being a biological parent, which everybody understands in every other context to be a tragedy, to be a horrible outcome when it's very unfortunate that people can't have children. And of course they wait, they adopt and they are able to bring up children, which is because having children and raising children is a wonderful gift. And this idea that we're voluntarily taking it away from people, taking it away from minors who have no idea what they're getting into. Again, it's criminal. This is abuse.

I've heard that Chloe Cole is now suing, and of course we should wish her well on that because after all those treatments she was given, she was not allowed to develop her mental health. Yeah. If it's okay with you, I want to go back to what you said about California.

Please. And what they're doing. Yep. Because in California in particular, we all know that children are malleable and that children have all kinds of immature ideas that they grow out of. They want to be a fireman. Can you imagine locking a person in to what profession they wanted to be when they were eight? And that's what it is to lock a person into the other gender and be sure they'll never procreate at the age of 11. Right.

It's not fundamentally different. Well, in California, they've decided that let's say you have a couple and both members of the couple are committed to traditional moral values. But then one of them, as part of the divorce, as part of what makes their relationship fall apart, one of them decides, I just don't, I'm throwing away all that Bible stuff. I'm going to believe in everything else.

And not only that, I want to get back at my husband and my wife, whatever it is. That spouse, after losing a custody battle in any sane state, like Missouri, can then take that child to California. This is a non-custodial parent claiming the child is in California because the child needs transgender treatment, quote unquote gender affirming care, which is nonsense, which is stupidity. It's gender denying care. It's not care.

Every other, every phrase, every piece of that is a lie. It's not a successful change in gender. It's not affirming anything.

It's denying reality and it's not care. And they take them to California and California says, oh, okay, you can keep them here despite the custody agreement, despite what the family court judge said. And you can thus inflict those treatments on the child just in order to get back at the spouse.

There's not a planet on which that's rational or moral or decent. That's California policy. And in Washington state, it is now state policy.

They're now just now being sued for it. Washington state policy is that a child can run away from home, find another home to live in, in order to get trans treatment, again, at the age of 11 or 12. They're supporting running away from home as long as you claim you're trans. Wow, that's great. I mean, children have never ever adopted stupid things just to get back at their parents.

I mean, never. Well, and unfortunately, Chick-fil-A is now supporting, I believe it's called Covenant House. I'll double check the name on that. But they support this trans movement. And so Chick-fil-A's foundation, having shifted their funds from Salvation Army, is now supporting an organization that helps to house these kids. And there you go. And this is what Washington state now approves of.

As you say, there are organizations, there are charities supporting this. And it's time for us to say that right is right, wrong is wrong. You're declaring that the sun rises in the West. It doesn't work that way.

Reality doesn't change to suit, you know, I always imagine myself a six foot five Chinese basketball player, but the coach would never put me on the team. I don't know. It was bigotry. It was discrimination. It was horrible. I needed affirming care.

I would have committed suicide. And all these things are false. Every piece, every detail is more ridiculous than the last. And the consistent message throughout it is, if you follow the Bible, it's because you're a bigot. That's the message.

Yeah, it's, it is. And, and it's, and it's dangerous, Rabbi, I mean, you know, that that's the other piece to this that I think is so important for for us to message and for people to understand. They are they are attacking and assaulting entire generations. And, and this attack against these generations. Now, you know, some of these young people, like Chloe Coles, you know, that her story, but there's, there are a lot of D transitioners now that, you know, that it that at 13 years of age, 12 years of age, 11 years of age, were convinced by people that they should have been able to trust school counselors and such, that this was the appropriate action, that their parents were just being non supportive, and that and that messaging about, you know, the anti parent messaging and the anti family messaging and all of this, this is all a part of it. I talked about this.

Last week, I talked about perilous times. And and what what the Bible has to say about, you know, what end times is going to look like and and the behaviors and so on, and destroying the family so that women are alone in the home trying to play both roles, trying to raise their kids. And then you have the predators that come into those homes that prey upon their children and prey upon the woman.

And, and if if a proper patriarchal biblical house is intact, then there's a man that's in that house. And predators even say there are interviews with predators that are out there that say, if there's a father in the home, and he's an engaged father, they they cross that child off their list. They're not even going to try.

They're not even going to try. But if there's no dad, if it's just the mom, if the child is alone in that kind of an environment, oh, the predators like I got this one. I got this one.

If I want them, I'm gonna get them. Ladies and gentlemen. Yeah, final final thoughts because we're at we're at we're at the end of our time. It's all interrelated. But in 100 years, history is going to be laughing at American society. And how crazy how out of control, how stupid and by the way, you can hear it right now. In cultures from Africa to Asia, where they have some still attachment to basic biology and humanity and humanitarian values. And they're looking at it because this is absolutely insane. We look at how do you look at the Romans today, the barbarian Romans, and this is not different.

Society is going to look at the at these people and say, this was barbaric. Coalition for Jewish values.org. Coalition for F O R Jewish values.org. Rabbi Yaakov Menken, Rabbi again, it's always such a joy. Thanks for being with me today. I greatly appreciate it. The time flew. Thanks so much.

It sure did. All right, we're going to take our break. We'll be back.

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And welcome back to Chosen Generation Radio, where no topic is off limits and everything filtered through biblical glasses. And I am just incredibly honored to have my next guest on the program. There have been a number of wonderful people, including Johanna and others who have been trying to connect he and I to do a segment together on this program for the last couple of years, actually.

And I am just absolutely thrilled. I know that his schedule is incredibly busy. He's the founder and president of the Woodson Center. 1776 unites and Voices of Black Mothers United. He is an influential leader on issues of poverty, alleviate, alleviate, alleviate, alleviation.

My goodness, why didn't that word want to come to my mind? Empowering disadvantaged communities to become agents of their own uplift. He is also a frequent advisor to local, state, and federal government officials, as well as business and philanthropic organizations. I've played pieces of interviews that he's doing recently.

I just played a piece and an interview that he was involved in. And I welcome Robert Woodson, Sr. Mr. Woodson, welcome. It's great to have you. Thanks so much for being with me today.

Well, thank you for inviting me. You know, this issue, they keep propagating this. I mean, this is one of their big issues of divide. CRT, the 1619 Project, the reparations issue, it just over and over and over again, I think that this has a lot to do with the whole issue of Michael Orr and the two E's. I think Michael Orr has been hijacked by the NFL and BLM to be convinced that, you know, that his story needs to once again propagate the idea of, you know, racial inequality and victimhood and so on. You've been doing a great deal of incredible work to help people understand that we are brothers and sisters and that we all serve one God.

Talk to me about that. And who is this primary audience that needs this message more than anyone else? Well, thank you. One of my young scholars said that Delano Spears, he described what the opposition is. He says there's the group of wealthy, guilty whites, a small number of wealthy, guilty whites who are seeking absolutions from crimes they never committed. And they've been joined with a group of elite blacks who are seeking absolutions from injustices they never suffered.

Wow. These two have come together. And what they've done is they've appropriated the rich tradition of the civil rights movement fighting against racism and injustice in America. And they have hijacked it and using it as a bludgeon against the nation's values.

And so that's what they're doing. They're using America's birth defect of slavery as a weapon against the nation. And they contend falsely that the problems facing low-income black communities with the high outer wedlock birth, the violence, and the high low educational achievement, that somehow these problems today are legacy of slavery and Jim Crow. And therefore, as it was expressed in 1619, that America is, racism is in its DNA and all white people are villains to be sanctioned and all white, black people are victims to be compensated.

You know, how do you build a nation tearing things out? And this is touched off the kind of tribal warfare that we're witnessing. But they do this in the name of helping the poor and helping those who are victims of injustice. For instance, when they talk about defunding the police, well, 80 percent of black Americans poll do not support defund the police. They contend that racial discrimination is the biggest barrier to human flourishing. Sixty percent of blacks do not support that contention.

They do not believe racism is their biggest barrier. And so but they are the ones that the press has embraced. The mainline media has placed them in the positions of being the principal power influencers. And that's what's driving this kind of narrative. And corporations and foundations and universities are caving in and each of them are trying to contribute.

They've contributed money and validation to this false narrative and it's destroying the country. So how important is it? One of the organizations that you lead is 1776 Unites. How important is it to correct their kind of perverted or warped view in 1619 project of American history?

What's the significance of fighting that fight? Well, Hannah Nicole Jones brought together these black journalists at the New York Times and published this, and she won a Pulitzer for it. And now it's being used as a basis of curriculum in schools throughout the country. We believe that since the messengers for this damaging narrative is black, that the counter narrative should be generated by led by blacks. And so I brought together a group of 23 scholars and not all conservative, but sensible people.

But we wanted to offer not a counter debate. We wanted to offer a positive counter and inspirational narrative that refutes what they're doing. So our essays chronicle, we challenged a lie that when whites were at their worst during segregation, blacks were at their best. And so we in our essays, we talk about 20 blacks who were born slaves who died millionaires. One of them actually went back and purchased a plantation on which they were a slave. When we were denied access to hotels, we built hotels in every city, we had our own railroad. All of this was financed within the black community. But it was also done under the auspices of the United States of America. And so if America's roots are all racist, then you couldn't get the loans. No one would give you the money.

You couldn't buy the property. I mean, and I understand that there were places where those issues existed. I get all that. But the reality is, as I look back, look, I'm of an Italian heritage. I mean, we also experienced the same kind of thing we had to build within our own community, because nobody outside of our community would would even talk to us. Exactly. But that's and that's the American creed.

Here we go, can come here, that but the principles are and our economic system rewards those who are willing to achieve against the odds. If you offer a product that people will buy, you can sell it in the American market. I get an interesting in the 1930s in our area, a Hayti section of Durham, North Carolina.

That was our we had a company that was one of the first to manufacture nylon stockings. And it sold to a national audience, but it had to hire an all white sales force. My goodness. Wow.

It's a national audience. And I'll tell you another interesting story. That's that in our essays that there was a guy named Elijah McCoy, who was born of escaped slaves, fugitive slaves went to Canada. He became an engineer when he came back here to get a job because he was black with the Chicago railroad.

They gave him the worst job, the most dangerous of oiling the wheels. But he was an inventor. So he invented a machine that would automatically lubricate the wheels. And thus the whole rail industry was able to move faster and it revolutionized. And he had like 10 or 12 patents to his credit.

People began to develop knockoffs. But the owners of the railroad said, no, we want the real McCord. Oh, V. How about that?

How about that? So that's where that came from. And there are other stories like that, that, for instance, in Chicago, where we have all the violence and the despair and the poverty in the Bronzeville section of Chicago in 1919, there were 731 black owned businesses.

We have 100 million in real estate assets in there in 1919. And only about a nine to 10% out of wedlock births at that time. So our ability to prosper was directly related to our Christian faith, and also the importance of the attitude of self determination and the nuclear family.

So so how I mean, I'm so glad you bring that up, because those those values are so critically important to the success of any community. Why is it that you think there's been this shift? Because since the mid 1960s, and through the 70s, that rate of traditional family has plummeted. And and you see a black voting block that the Democratic Party always counts on that is supporting things like abortion, and and single parenthood. And and this quote unquote, woman's rights, which which Aaron Russo came out and talked about how that was all about destroying the foundation of America. And and then they've added in the LGBTQ agenda. Why is that?

Why are these? I mean, these things are so counter to everything you just said, how did they get to how did they do this? Well, Thomas Sowell really documented in his latest book, the fact that every generation after slavery, blacks progressed. The biggest poverty decline occurred between 1945 and 1965.

And it was it went down about 40%. And that decline would have continued because of the institutions within the black community, that government was hostile to us. And so, and so we had to rely on our own institutions, our own churches or sonic organizations for for survival, but that all changed. And so the poverty programs of the 60s, did more destructiveness in the black community than anything that Jim Crow could have ever accomplished, because it separated work from income, and therefore it made the father redundant. And it was a conscious effort on the part of socialist policymakers at Columbia University, cloud pivot. And when they couldn't have done it alone, government also participated in the 60s. In this welfare program, where welfare was redefined as social insurance to reparations. The Black Panther Party contributed by demonizing the nuclear family as being Eurocentric, and therefore racist.

The women's movement contributed too, because they were hostile to fathers. So you had this, this this cataclysmic clash of major forces, together with the government, opening welfare offices, and actively recruiting people. So three to 4 million blacks were suddenly coming into the welfare system over a four or five year period, bankrupting New York, if you remember, and that was the plan.

They said if we were able to bankrupt the existing system, then the country would be compelled to go to redistribution of income. So all of what you're witnessing today is a direct result. Government was hostile to us prior to the 60s, and we thrived.

And suddenly they embraced us, and then they were the ones responsible for the decline. So what you're saying is that it's not all slavery's fault. It was nothing to do with slavery. Absolutely nothing to do with slavery. The very fact that even after slavery, one of our scholarship, they looked at the records of six major plantations to see what the family was like. 70% of all slave families had a man and a woman raising children. And they solidified those, and marriages soared right after slavery. We had one man who actually traveled after emancipation, took him three years to hitchhike from Dallas to Arlington, Virginia to reunite with his family. Can you imagine? Three years he celebrated in Arlington. That shows you the deep passion that they had for family.

Sure, sure. Well, and I think the other piece is that, you know, again, all of this success happened within the United States of America. It happened within the American system.

It did. And that's why what the left is doing now by demonizing, what they've done is, NAACP and the Urban League are no longer civil rights organizations. They're an extension of the LGBTQ movement.

So they are irrelevant. They are hostile to the interests of, they're put in the interest of these other groups. But what these other groups are doing is they're taking the rich legacy of the civil rights movement, and then they are applying it to a movement, to the LGBTQ, the trans movement. And what they have done is they have used it to attack the family, to attack the flag.

And so they are using the rich tradition of the civil rights movement to defame and to debase the very values that enabled black America to survive slavery and Jim Crow. And so what's happening, you asked about the ballot box. Johnson said, if I sign this civil rights bill and the fact ends, that's how it's black, we'll be voting Democratic for 100 years. And that's what he knew.

He did. It was sentimental. The Democrats would have a sentimental hold on the black vote, even though the major declines are occurring in cities run by black Democratic office holders. Right.

Guys like the late Elijah Cummings. Exactly. But the way they can get away with that is racist uses a shield and a spear. The moment you begin to raise questions about why are poor blacks thriving, why middle and upper income blacks are achieving, you got more blacks in college today than ever before and more blacks in prison.

If racism were the sole culprit, why aren't all blacks suffering equally? Makes good sense. Makes good sense.

Well, and you can't, I mean, the crime issues that are, you know, a part of those communities are a direct result of these bad policies that are put in place by the very people that they vote into office. Exactly. And the very fact that you detach work from income, you make fathers redundant. Some of these young people that I know have never attended a wedding.

Wow. At age 23, they have never attended a wedding. That was unheard of in my time. I was born in the, during the depression in a low income black neighborhood where we had holes in our shoes, but no one complained because everybody had holes in their shoes.

You just look for a nice piece of solid cardboard to cut in. But elderly people could walk safely in that community and children were not shot in their groups. Well, and I was just going to say those same young people that have never been to a wedding unfortunately have probably been to several funerals. Oh, many. I know many young people who have lost six to seven friends before the age of 16. And the majority of those losses are not white on black, but black on black murders. In my first book, A Summits to Life, I mean, one of my books, The Charms of Joseph, I interviewed a woman who lost all four of her sons to homicide before the age of 30.

All four in Washington DC, every one of her four sons. And it's criminal because it is, again, it is oppression, but it is an oppression created by policies put in place by many leaders, black leaders, officials that are, you know, black Democrats that have been put into office who keep other individuals in their communities down. It is true. But unfortunately, the answers are not political either. It would be hard for us to go to any low income community.

You can't tell me which political party is in power in the city or the state, because for the consequence of people in these communities it's the same. It is a moral and spiritual crisis that we're facing, not a political crisis. And then when we at the Woodson Center look for solutions, we have helped create islands of excellence within some of the most low income, toxic, drug infested communities where peace zones have been created by people who are applying old values to these new challenges and are restoring groups. There are small pockets all over this country that the Woodson Center has been involved in where real solutions are being mounted, but they're using these old strategies but based upon the old values of self-determination, family, and faith in God. Faith, yeah.

Yeah. Well, and God's principles. I think a lot of people don't realize that, you know, why did God give the commandments that he gave in, you know, in Exodus and in Deuteronomy? Because the Israelites were coming out of a pagan culture. They'd been living in a pagan culture.

I mean, the similarities between those pagan cultures and what we're seeing in our country today are really staggering when you stop and think about it. And so God said, look, if you guys will live like this, you're gonna flourish. You're gonna be healthy.

You're gonna prosper. And they did. And it's the same thing today.

If we would just get back to those Christian biblical principles, those Judeo-Christian, God-fearing, God-honoring ideologies, we would be succeeding. Yeah, but Moses had to get Israel, I mean, had to get Egypt out of the Israelites before the Israelites would get out of Egypt. Yes, he did.

Yes, he did. All right. So how do we work together to do that? How do we get Egypt, so to speak, out of the American psyche?

Because I think it's been so inundated. You were talking about, you know, and it goes both ways. Look, I did holy hip-hop. I did a holy hip-hop show. And my show got picked up in one of the Carolina states. And they loved it.

It was doing really good. And so the program director reached out to my syndicator and said, hey, we need a picture of the jock so we can put it up on her page. Well, they got a picture of me. And the jock called him back and he said, I got to cancel the show.

And so I called the guy and I said, what's the deal? And he said, look, man, I love your show. I love your message.

I love what you're doing. But that face can't go on my station's website. Sorry. And that was the deal. And, you know, this is what we're talking about though, right? I mean, you know what I'm saying? This is what we're talking about is, is we've got to make, we're, we're building that bridge.

Yeah. What we did at the Woodson centers, you know, we put together these essays, uh, it's on a red, white and black rescuing America from, uh, you know, revisionists and race hustlers. It's sold out in like four weeks. And we developed some curriculum that has now been downloaded 109,000 times in all 50 States. And 16, 19 has only been downloaded 16,000 times, but they have the blessings of the mainline media, but still, um, and this, uh, the, the school systems and others, and every 50 state is embracing us.

And, um, and you should, people should go on our website and they're available free. They tell inspiring stories about blacks and others in the past who have used the fundamental values and virtues of this nation as the building blocks for resisting slavery. And Jim Crow, there are some marvelous stories of people achieving against the odds. Um, and we are the only people who wore the crown of forms of slavery and discrimination. These other groups cannot be permitted to hijack it and apply it to their condition. So we're pushing back against the hijacking of the tradition.

Our suffering do not do, do not exploit our suffering. Like the LGBTQ agenda as an example. Yeah. It's like somebody stealing something that you own and walking past you in it.

Yep. Well, and, and, and, and sadly, and this is one of the things that I talk about when I talk about that issue on the program, it is, it is destroying the conscience of, of our children. It is, it is breaking down that moral fiber that becomes so critically important as you, as you age and get older to have a successful community based on good moral values. And there's no, there's no moral value in the LGBTQ community. I don't care what you tell me it, period.

You can't live that lifestyle and have moral values. Well, we are, we are, uh, again, the, the people that we serve are not confused about their pronouns. Hear, hear, hear, hear. It is the, uh, Woodsoncenter.org is the website, folks, Woodsoncenter.org. And uh, and at the very top you can find, and there's even a tab that asks the question, how we help supporting values, aligned institutions, 1776 Unites, Community Affiliate Network, Voices of Black Mothers United, which we didn't really have a chance to get into yet today, but we'll, we'll do this again. And then, and then the curriculum and, and the curriculum again, as, uh, as, uh, Robert Woodson here has told us, it's free. It's free to download the curriculum and, and then educate yourselves. And I don't care if you're red, brown, yellow, black, or white, get educated, understand this issue. So when you get into a situation where there's a conversation that's taking place, you can have this conversation with confidence because you understand it. And I, and I think, you know, that one of the ways the enemy confuses us is to create chaos through ignorance.

My people perish for a lack of knowledge. Mr. Woodson, thank you for being with me today. I really appreciate it. Thank you. I really enjoyed the conversation. Thank you, sir.

Thank you so very much. All right, we are going to take a break when we come back. John Euler joins me on the other side. We'll talk about the trans agenda. Stay tuned. More Children Generation Radio coming at you right here. Children Generation Radio show and this particular segment, along with Rabbi Yaakov Menken that was in the first half hour will all be packaged together and you'll be able to see this and watch this and learn from it. And I hope that you will. I'm your host, Pastor Greg. Thanks again for being with me today. We'll be back with more coming up right after this brief break.