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Go to the show, the show archives at chosengenerationradio.com and click on the Rumble link, and you'll be able to go to our Rumble channel over there and you can watch it live, the interview that I just did with Masara Kim. Don't want to take a bunch of time talking about that because I need to get to my next guest. And oh my goodness, I'll tell you folks, this is a major program that we're doing today, and I just hope you'll stay tuned for all of it. We've also got Tucker's Autobiographer next hour, and we'll be visiting again with Chadwick Moore as well. Sam Faddis joins me now. Sam, I just, first of all, thank you so much. I really appreciate you getting up at the crack of dawn here to join us on the program today. Tell folks very briefly your autobiography, and I know there's, I mean, you've got books about it, but just give me a very short snippet for my audience, and then let's get into our subject matter. Right. Well, I was, once upon a time, a United States Army officer.

I would get the skeleton in the closet right up front. I'm also a trial attorney. I spent 20 years undercover with the Central Intelligence Agency, almost all of that abroad, another decade working with other parts of the intelligence community, basically training people to do what I had done.

These days, I am senior editor with an online publication called AND Magazine, that's Substack, and involved also with the committee Present Danger China focused on the danger to the United States from the Chinese Communist Party. Of which I'm honored to be a part of that as well with Frank Gaffney and great work that is being done by that organization. If you're not aware of it, folks, we've talked about it here. I hope you will be.

So let's talk. Sam, first of all, I didn't, this wasn't on the agenda, but I just want to get your thoughts on this. You watched the whistleblowers as they came forward and spoke before the congressional committee. I know you weren't shocked by anything that they had to say. But I'm wondering, what was your impression of how they were treated?

It's horrifying. Look, the law is crystal clear here. The provisions are crystal clear here. These are folks who've stood up and done their duty, who've took their constitutional oath seriously. There's no question they were retaliated against. It's an entire stack of illegal actions that were taken here. It's not close. It's not marginal.

It's not debatable. There's been a lot that has been said about the CIA. I know that you have come forward and spoken a great deal about a number of the programs that the CIA has been engaged in going back some 50, 60 years, as far as its efforts to manipulate population, change narratives, a lot of those kinds of things. At the same time, I know both of us, I had my experience through the United States Air Force as a Russian linguist in the intel area. I know that the CIA also played an important role in many operations.

So there was good, there was also significant evil all being done using the same banner or what have you. Does it surprise you then that the CIA has been engaged in the espionage it's been engaged in first against President Trump and now in protecting Biden and the crime family? Yeah, well, I don't know if surprised is the right word anymore, right? Because we're so, because we've seen so much disgusts me.

I mean, look, you know, Central Intelligence Agency's job is to focus on foreign threats. As you well know, you should not be within 10 miles of American domestic politics. Clearly illegal, inappropriate, immoral, we could go on, right? So that disgusts me. And I suspect it disgusts still a great number of individuals inside the organization that leadership has taken this direction.

It's intolerable. And, you know, assuming we get the right guy in the White House, this next time around, somebody needs to go in there with a big broom, like in a lot of other federal agencies and sweep out the folks behind this. Is that kind of housecleaning possible? I mean, President Trump came in, I think the first time around, he was really trying to to create unity, he was trying to give people an opportunity to change direction, do the right thing. John Brennan ran a covert operation that was a coup, I believe, against the United States of America. Do you see that the same way? Yeah, I concur. Absolutely.

I mean, one of the things that has been lost in much of the discussion of crossfire hurricane, if you will, is what occurred inside the Central Intelligence Agency, if you will, behind the curtain. And in my opinion, the guy at the heart of that, absolutely, John Brennan, without without question, is it possible to clean that out? Yeah, easy. No, possible.

Yes. You got to send somebody there, first of all, that understands the organization, because otherwise, they will lead him around by the nose. And he won't have any idea what he's doing. And then he has to have the full support, absolute full support of the President United States to do whatever is necessary. And that's going to start with informing x number of people day one, minute one of day one, your services are no longer required.

Clean out your desks and let's go and then not tolerating any internal foot dragging, slow rolling, internal resistance, you're either with the program, and we're going back to doing the country's business, or you also can go find another job. That's what it's going to take. Now, how do I mean, I would assume also that there's going to have to be some criminal prosecutions in that because some of these entities, some of these individuals have networks that are 2025 years old, and you remove them out and that's all well and good. But but you know, the and I know it sounds like a spy movie, right? But I mean, the reality is, is they're going to go do what they're going to do, potentially outside of the auspices of the CIA, and still potentially be a threat to our country. Am I off base and considering that?

No, you're not off base at all. I look at the way I would look at it is we are going to whoever does this man woman doesn't matter, goes through the door is going to do the needful. We're going to fix this place. We're cleaning this out. We're okay. And whatever is required, we're not pulling punches.

If you've engaged in criminal conduct, then you will be criminally prosecuted. And this is one of the reasons why I say you have to have somebody that understands the terrain. When Brennan left as director of Central Intelligence, he was replaced by a lady named Gina Haspel. Okay. Gina is John Brennan's protege.

She was in my this is my verbiage is a girl. Yeah. Oh, that's that's Brennan in drag. That's you replaced Brennan and put somebody in his place who is probably still reporting to him and is certainly doing his bidding. The devil you know. That's it. And that's a clear demonstration that you when you've taken this step, you don't understand where you are or what is happening, right?

You've made no change. I I'm, I know that. I mean, I have to assume that individuals have approached you Sam and said, Hey, you're probably one of the best guys to consider to to take this on. Would you do it? Would you would you take on that task? Yeah, I would absolutely do that. Presuming, you know, my, if somebody asked me, the next president United States asked me, would you take this job? My response is it would be an honor and a privilege and I choose those words very deliberately, assuming you're going to stand behind me and give me the authority to do what's needful. If we're serious, I'm your guy. If we're going to play at it, I got other things that I, that I can do. Um, but I will tell you this and I mean, cause I think it gets easy to get depressed these days when people are considering all the news. I think if you went in there and began to take those actions and people inside the organization understood, Oh my God, you're actually serious.

You'd really literally have people cheering in the halls because you still have a lot of brave people that are disgusted internally and, and praying, literally praying. Right. Please fix this. Let us get back to doing what we do, which is keeping Americans safe in their beds at night. Yeah. Trying, trying to hold the line as best as they can inside of an organization that is breaking every, every rule that can be, can be broken. I assume that you also the same thing would have to happen in order for the CIA to become the CIA again, the FBI has to become the FBI again. And the department of justice has to become the department of justice again.

Um, I mean, it's, it's, it's a, it's a, it's three heads. Yeah. Look, we're talking about CIA. Obviously that's my, my background as an old CIA guy. I'm kind of required to say disparaging things about the Bureau.

It's sort of in our DNA. It's required. Absolutely. Yes, sir.

Give each other a hard time. But the bottom line is I've worked with the Bureau. Yeah. I've got a lot of great friends that are special agents that retired at this point, a serious organization we desperately need, and it needs absolutely the same house cleaning as does DOJ. And honestly, probably a whole bunch of other federal agencies that need this kind of treatment. Well, and some of them just need to go away, like the EPA and the, and the FCC and all these little administrative monsters just, just, just need to be ended.

Yeah. Look, department of education. I just wrote an article at the end magazine we can take live today talking about how we're folks are trying to investigate where all the Chinese money came from that went to the university of Pennsylvania's Penn Biden center.

This is this cushy little thing, right? You can set up for Biden. That's basically a CCP propaganda outlet, a wash in Chinese money. And they're required to say these institutions who actually gave them the money, but all these years later, they refuse. And the department of education is refusing FOIA requests when people are going in and saying, no, seriously, where did these, these stacks of where'd all this money come from and what was it for? And the department of education is running interference for Joe Biden as well on this.

So those guys can go away completely as far as I'm concerned. Thank you for building that bridge back because I want to in the, in these final 10 minutes or so that we've got to really get into you mentioned at the onset, your involvement with the committee on the present danger of China. Joe Biden has been in bed with the CCP for quite some time. I know in our, in our green room, we talk about 2018, but I mean with the state department and being with the state department for the last 40 years, he's been in bed with the CCP for a very, very, very long time, which is why Hunter Biden would say, well, don't worry. The big guys got us covered.

And the Chinese would say, oh yeah, we know who he is. No problem. We got it. But talk to me about that situation and the danger that that poses to our country.

Yeah. Well, let me start with this as a predicate. Look, I worked undercover for the central intelligence agency for decades. I did a whole bunch of stuff for this central intelligence agency. What's job number one as a case officer, which is what I was recruit sources inside target organizations, go get guys in the Chinese Intel service, Russian Intel service inside Al Qaeda to go to work for us and give us Intel. That's number one job. So when I'm talking about this, I'm not talking about this cause I read a book about it one time I'm talking about this cause this is what I did for a living for a really long time.

And then I worked with every counter intelligence agency in the federal government. What you see in the case of Joe Biden is classic case of what the Chinese call elite capture. They do it on an industrial scale.

What's it boiled down to? They buy powerful people in target countries and turn them into assets by asset. I mean a source, a controlled person. They gain control over you because they buy you.

This isn't science fiction. This is documented fact. They do it all over the world. At the heart of the whole Biden thing is the Chinese communist party, but let's take it a step further is CEFC China energy, everything that hunters, all these guys are working for CEFC China energy. They're talking to the Biden's CEO. See China energy is a Chinese front intelligence front company. It is not a legit commercial business.

It's not running energy projects. Its entire purpose is to buy control over people. So that's, that's who, when we're at all done with the hookers and all the other stuff, to me, that's at the heart of this, right? You got Chinese intelligence funneling millions and millions of dollars to the guy who now sits in the oval office.

So I, I know exactly what that, what that is looking at it because I've seen it for decades. In fact, one of the guys that, uh, Hunter was dealing with directly Patrick hoe who worked for CEFC China energy was in fact convicted on us soil. He was convicted for doing exactly this, buying officials in this case at the United nations. And remarkably enough, the FBI, when they were investigating him, tumbled to the fact that he was also in direct contact with Hunter and funneling all this money to him. And while they prosecuted him for buying other officials, they covered up for his connections to the Biden's. So you got the FBI running, in my opinion, interference for Chinese intelligence on us soil into intentionally 100% intentionally when they prosecuted hoe, they wanted to use things like transcripts from the wiretaps on his phone and so forth. They went into the judge and got his approval to redact, to black out from the records, any reference to the Biden's. So they, they had to take that's just obviously involving DOJ as well. They went into deliberately hide that they're investigating a Chinese spy on us soil and convicting him of bribing and buying it. You end officials and simultaneously covering the fact that they can see he is doing exactly the same thing with the Biden's that's documented fact. That's, that's not a conspiracy theory. So so so in other words, while they're convicting him of being a spy, regarding these issues, he over here at the same time is running a Biden operation, basically for China.

Yes. And and they and they don't touch that. They leave that alone. They let him continue to run the operation with Biden, while prosecuting him over here. I don't remember what so what was what was the disposition?

What ended up happening? Oh, ultimately, ultimately, he goes to prison. But the thing is, Ho is only one of the guys from CEFC China Energy. He's only one of the Chinese Intel guys here. So while they send Ho to prison for bribing UN officials, they leave not only do they leave the connection to the Biden's intact with CEFC, but they deliberately bury it. Literally, they have hearings, you know, behind closed doors with the with the judge, to redact any reference to the Biden's from the documents, my gosh, hide this. Now, you would think about this, if you tumbled across Chinese Intel in direct contact with the vice president of the United States was who was worth the time, right?

Wasn't time, right? You think every red light and FBI headquarters ought to be going off? Hey, these guys for a living by foreign officials, right? And it looks like they just bought the VP. Yeah, you shouldn't be burying it, you should be pulling extra manpower in to say, this is the biggest counterintelligence threat in American history. Well, and to find out whether or not does is, you know, if the VP is aware, yes, how aware is the president? Right? How much did Obama know about the whole?

And, and, you know, I think I think it would be foolish to believe that Obama was was blind to this as as if Joe Biden could do anything during that administration, that that didn't have Obama's stamp of approval upon it. Perfectly legitimate question. But in bedrock here, as we both know, for the FBI, what are you supposed to do?

You're supposed to run it to ground. Sure, grab hold of the facts, follow it to resolution. If in the end, we're totally mistaken, and the VP is not really on the Chinese payroll, good news. But what you don't do is you don't cover for him and bury it and and, and just leave it unresolved. And of course, now, it has become infinitely worse because this guy who was bought as the VP is now sitting in the Oval Office himself.

Well, let's be clear. I mean, I mean, you've you've seen you, you watch the presentation of Congress, you saw them lay out all all of the transactions that took place. I'm sure you've you've investigated yourself because of who you are, you know, looking at this evidence peeling through the documents going through foias, all that information, based on your analysis, if you were if you were a case manager with regards to this situation, what's your conclusion? Yeah, well, certainly my operating hypothesis is the guy sitting in the Oval Office works for Beijing. They bought him a long time ago. And and I would you know, here's exhibit A, make a list of every national security foreign policy related decision he's made since he sat down the Oval Office and tell me one time that he took a dismayed decision to our benefit and to the detriment of Xi Jinping and the Chinese Communist Party.

I defy you to find one. This makes the Russian penetration of the Manhattan Project pale in comparison. And yet, the FBI is our number one counterintelligence agency.

And they not only don't show any interest in it, they seem to dedicate themselves to covering for him and preventing anybody from ever getting to the bottom of this. That's terrifying, actually. Well, it certainly seems apparent to me that that there's that there can be no question as as to the link. I mean, just look at the Chinese balloon debacle, right? Right.

No, no action until China had basically gathered all the information that was available for them to gather. And then, hey, let's help China out by destroying the evidence. We take this we let this thing do donuts over our most sensitive nuclear, our ICBM fields, our nuclear command control facilities, obviously transmitting home the entire time all the data.

Right. And when it's all done and it's completed its mission in its entirety, then we drop it into the ocean and announce, well, I guess we'll never know what what that thing was up to. While we're simultaneously draining our strategic oil reserves, while we're while we're doing any number of other things, we've we have taken our war stocks and pulled out the ammunition we preposition in Korea, Israel, everywhere, shipped it all to Ukraine to be expended in a conflict between the Ukrainians and the Russians. And knowing that it will take us five, six, seven years, in some cases, to refill those warehouses, meaning if we go to war with the Chinese, we got nothing to shoot anymore.

Literally. I don't say that as a friend of Vladimir Putin's. I'm just saying that. Right. I think the number one danger is the guys who might attack us tomorrow.

That that would be where my priority would be. Well, the reality is, is what, you know, and I know munitions people. I know guys that own these munitions factories that have been that have been sitting.

And even during the Trump years, unfortunately, things were hung up. They've been sitting there for for eight, nine, almost 10 years now saying, I'm set up. I'm ready. I'm good to roll. I've got the materials. I've got everything necessary to start producing the munitions that I know we need.

Right. But I but I can't but I can't get the green light. I cannot get the government to give me the green light so I can just start making this stuff because, yeah, I can have you refilled in about six months. But but but it ain't going to happen until somebody gives me the green light so that I can start producing it. People don't understand that they think we've expended Javelin missiles, for instance, the anti-tank missiles. And that somehow or another, you can just snap your fingers and next Tuesday the warehouses will be filled. That's not as you and I both know, the way this works, man, if you want this to happen, start issuing the contract, start and get people to gear up.

You've got to get a running start at this thing. In the interim, we have literally pulled war stocks out of the Middle East, literally out of South Korea and shipped the stuff to Ukraine. So our guys in the 2nd Infantry Division sitting up there in Korea, if things go hot with the North Koreans, are all of a sudden going to be look going to ammo bunkers and be told, sorry, guys, we you got no rounds. We got we got we got you're going to have to hold this by by by some kind of sheer will because, you know, it's it's the Battle of the Bulge all over again. Sam, God bless you, man. Thanks so much for being with us today. I greatly appreciate it. Sam faddis dot org, Sam faddis dot org.

And then you can find the link to and where he is writing right now. And I look forward to having you back again, sir. God bless you.

Thank you. All right, we're going to take a break. We'll be back with more chosen generation radio coming up right after this. I joined by Lee Williams, we're going to talk about to a to a second amendment, our right to defend ourselves under assault by this administration.

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Good to be here. Well, they're after our Second Amendment rights once again, sir. Yeah, they haven't really stopped since Joe Biden got elected. He has ramped it up unlike any president we've ever seen before. Let's go through that so that people have kind of a barometer, I guess you could say, to look at where he has gone after it and, you know, the Supreme Court thankfully has stepped in in a couple of instances and reaffirmed our Second Amendment rights. In one instance, though, they basically said we're going to let this continue to run through the courts. But talk to me about some of the areas that you're most concerned about when it comes to our Second Amendment rights.

OK, I'm taking a big inhale here. Joe Biden has declared a war on gun dealers, thinking that if he gets rid of the gun dealers, he'll get rid of the guns. He's issued us. Oh, gosh, a massive amount of unconstitutional executive orders, all of which infringe on our Second Amendment rights. We tracked how many times he has lied about the Second Amendment. That's up until the article ran.

There was three hundred and four big lies. He's using false data to gaslight Americans about mass shootings, about homemade firearms, which he calls ghost guns, even though Americans have been making guns in their homes since there was since before there was the United States of America. He's using false data to gaslight Americans about law abiding gun dealers whom he called rogue gun dealers. He's colluded with the financial industry, the shipping industry and the legacy media to infringe upon our Second Amendment. He's weaponized A.T.F.

into criminalizing pistol braces, aftermarket triggers, solvent traps. And that's completely unconstitutional. A.T.F.

is completely without the authority to do this. He's got A.T.F. doing knock and talk home inspections, which are unconstitutional, because they try and talk their way in to law abiding gun owners homes. He's got A.T.F. SWAT team raiding law abiding gun owners, especially those who work out of their home, the home based gun dealers. A.T.F. has created, and we've caught him doing this, an illegal gun registry which is prohibited by Congress.

A.T.F. and the IRS are now teaming up to conduct raids on gun dealers with their SWAT teams. And then he has completely over militarized the IRS agents. Right now, they're carrying Heckler and Koch 416, which are in use by our tier one type forces.

That would be Delta Force and SEAL Team 6. That's just a little bit that comes off the top of my head, Pastor. But lately, the big thing right now is they're trying to redefine what constitutes a firearm.

And we caught him at that. The case is Vander Stock v. Garland. And the Supreme Court has taken a little bit of action on that recently. Wow. I mean, it's really overwhelming, isn't it? It is.

It is. I mean, I work for the Second Amendment Foundation. There's two sides to our organization. You have the legal side and the educational side. I'm on the educational side.

I'm the chief editor of their investigative journalism project. Second Amendment Foundation right now has more than 50 lawsuits nationwide trying to restore our Second Amendment rights. And after the Bruin decision, the Supreme Court Bruin decision in which the Supreme Court said you have a right to carry a defensive firearm outside the home and you can't just willy nilly ban guns that are in common usage. What we're seeing right now is what I like to call Bruin tantrum laws. You've got all these blue state liberal politicians pushing back, creating laws they know are unconstitutional.

They know these laws violate the Supreme Court's Bruin decision, but they don't care because they know we'll have to spend our time and our money and it is our money to overturn their unconstitutional laws. So, yeah, it is a busy time. Of course, we know that the ultimate goal here is they want to disarm Americans. I just did an interview the first hour with Masara Kim, who is a journalist over in Nigeria, and they are being overrun by the Islamic led military that is committing genocide against Christians over there.

And one of the differences between what they have happening in their country and where we are, fortunately, still a little bit currently here in America is is the ability to to defend ourselves. But but that's that's the whole issue. I mean, that's that's their whole thing.

You're absolutely right, Pastor, that their ultimate goal has always been it will always be total civilian disarmament. They want to take the guns out of my state who have never hurt anybody who I which I paid good money for and make them illegal and make me turn them in. I mean, I'm an investigative reporter. Quite frankly, I piss people off for a living.

I've had more than a few death threats. Who are they to tell me what tool I should buy to defend myself and my family? Yes, they want to. Well, they don't and they don't want to just tell you what tool you can buy.

They don't. They want to make sure you don't have any tools, period. I mean, at the end of the day, they you know, I I appreciate what you're saying. But but in all honesty, in my in my humble opinion, I believe that their ultimate goal here, Lee, is is to say, Lee Williams, you're not entitled to defend yourself.

You will bow down and and kiss the ring or or or we will end you. I couldn't agree more. And everybody always says, you know, the upcoming election is the most important whenever this is the most important one ever. And from a Second Amendment standpoint, if you value your Second Amendment, your God given right to self-defense, which has been codified in the U.S. Constitution, you better think about who you're voting for, because they just don't care about the law. I mean, we have slapped the ETF on their frame and receiver rule, their pistol brace rule, their bump stock rule. They're going after aftermarket triggers. We continually slap them down by showing that that ETF is violating the separation of powers. ATF wants to be the judge, jury and executioner. They're now writing rules which carry the whole weight of federal law, meaning that if you violate them, you will go to federal prison. And then they're enforcing the rules that they wrote.

It doesn't work like that. Congress should have some say in that. Lee, wouldn't you suggest that ATF truthfully, I mean, we're talking about, you and I are talking about this, this is August 15th, 2023. But let's go back and talk about, you know, what was it, 1982 and Ruby Ridge, right?

Yeah. Okay. I mean, let's go back and talk because it was ATF at Ruby Ridge that assassinated Randy Weaver's wife.

Okay. It was ATF at Waco that led the charge that murdered innocent people whose weapons, by the way, were in a room that actually was trying to follow the law. They were locked up in a room where the rest, where the general populace didn't have access to them, where children couldn't just pick them up. And they raided that compound.

They didn't raid it. They bombed that compound. That was ATF, ladies and gentlemen. Well, and don't forget, you know, that they're entire, they have a history of violence, not only for Waco and Ruby Ridge, but look at Fast and Furious. They allowed them to walk into Mexico. And unfortunately, a hero, Brian Taylor, the military, the border patrol agent was killed by one of these ATF guns. But in addition to that, there has been hundreds of Mexican nationals that are still being killed today by these firearms. I mean, we do not need ATF.

I have called for them to be completely abolished. Uh, yeah, there might be some good guys working there. I just published a story today on their harassment of a home-based gun dealer in Texas. And he pointed out, you know, there might be some people who are good people working for ATF, but they drank the Kool-Aid and, you know, they, they, none of them are quitting. So it is at best a criminal organization.

It has always been one of the most politically minded alphabet groups where in they, you know, they look to the, the residents of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue and do what he wants. Well, under a Republican administration, you know, we, we've managed to keep them in there, but under Joe Biden, he's weaponized them and there is no federal agency. Everybody complains about FBI. Yeah, that's a bad organization, but compared to ATF and their willy nilly, the way they violate civil rights, ATF needs to go. I mean, they don't, they're, they're, they're using their SWAT teams to kick down doors of guys that have not committed a crime. They do not, nothing that they did. If you look at their history, is there any value?

Do they value the sanctity of human life? Okay. Yep.

That's, that's a huge problem. Well, and I would suggest that you could take that, you know, again, you know, I wasn't 82 was like, it was nine 92 or 93 was, well, that was the, the, the Waco thing, but even Ruby Ridge. But my point is, is that I, I would suggest that it probably begins when Clinton jumped into the white house.

I mean that, that, you know, 1992 that's, that's when all of this really began and he began weaponizing these agencies. I mean, and if you look at what they did at Waco and Ruby Ridge, uh, they had, uh, Randy Weaver, uh, on some charges, they cooked up on, on a short rail shotgun. They had David Koresh on some allegedly on some grenade bodies. Even one of those guys, both of those guys went into town frequently. They could have had a local deputy sheriff pull them over, pick them up.

It wouldn't have been no issue, but no, they went through the headlines. They want this siege. They want ATF has always been addicted to headlines. Well, they got them and they, they weren't very good. But again, I go back to my big problem with that agency. They do not value the sanctity of human life. They don't. Well they're, they're, they're, they're charter, you know, was, was, was not an, and, and what, what they're currently being used for, uh, is not what, what they were originally intended for.

No, no, absolutely not. I mean they were the original revenues. They were looking for whiskey pills and untaxed cigarettes.

Um, but they've morphed into this. I mean they're training, they're swatching four times a year to kick down doors and, and, and take, you know, these are good Americans who they're, they're, they're targeting. These are law abiding folks. You know, I have so many friends that are gun dealers. You will not find a more patriotic bunch than gun dealers. They're, they're not going to violate the law, but ATF is treating them like criminals because Joe Biden said there are rogue gun dealers out there.

He's going to find them whether they're rogue or not. Yeah. They, they were transferred to the Department of Justice in 1930, briefly a division of the FBI, but they, they were the, you know, they were the enforcers, the Bureau of Internal Revenue in 1920. And then, and then if I'm not mistaken, they were significantly also involved in the enforcement of prohibition. Yeah, they were.

And you know, quite frankly nowadays, I don't care if some country gentlemen want to, want to sell some corn squeezes on the side. I really don't care what they're using them for is killing people. Yeah.

Yeah. No, there, there's, there's, there, they don't serve, they don't serve a purpose any longer. They really don't, they really don't serve a purpose other than to be used by policymakers that want to restrict our Second Amendment rights.

And, and, and let's talk a little bit about that. Because, you know, again, there's, there is no education with regards to the purpose of the Second Amendment. And as it relates to our ability to defend ourselves against a tyrannical government. And that, that's, that's was really, you want to talk about primary purpose, right? I mean, Lee, am I, am I, am I understanding that, you know, constitutionally, that's the reason why the Second Amendment exists. It's not about hunting. You won't find a word in there about hunting.

Trust me on that. Yeah. It's to defend ourselves against enemies, foreign and domestic, and a tyrannical government. That's why, you know, people ask, they get confused by the militia part of the Second Amendment. I am the militia, you are the militia. That's what was that was what was expected of a free man, you know, to have a have a weapon to know how to use it, to have it ready when needed. That's, that's what that part was all about.

They just they just don't seem to get it. Well, and understanding and everybody then goes, Well, yeah, but that was, you know, they, they, yes, they came out from underneath the king. It was the citizens, we the people, who who fought for their rights and their liberties, having declared their independence because of tyrannical and oppressive. And, and, and let's be very clear, also, an unbiblical authority that was being thrust upon them. There was a man that was saying he was he was God, in essence. And the people in America said, No, I don't think your God, there is a God, he is the God and I'm holding up the holy scriptures. There's one God, the God of this Holy Bible, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, who sent his son Jesus Christ, who introduced us to the kingdom of heaven and said it is at hand.

And we are members of that kingdom right here, right now, we have one king, his name is Jesus. And that's it. And and you're either going to go along with that, or I guess we're going to have a fight. And we did. And we won. And and we said from that point on, that's what that it's we the people, our rights endowed, thereby put in us by this creator, by God himself. And man cannot take those rights away from us, period, end of story.

And here are the tools that we have. We have God in us, prayer, the power of prayer, the power to try to educate and speak, the power of the free press, the power to redress our government, the power to peacefully protest. And if those five things don't work, then we've got the Second Amendment and the right to defend ourselves when you violate the first five.

Couldn't agree more, couldn't agree more. And I look at the Second Amendment as a God given right. God gave me the right to self defense. It just happens to be codified in the U.S. and a lot of state constitutions. Yep. And thereby also, you know, running down the list, the right to protect my property, the right to my privacy, the right to be able to live out my life morally, by the way, I might add.

Not selling kids in sex slavery and not mutilating innocent children's bodies because you've got some perverted fetish. Just saying. Amen. Just saying.

Lee, where do we go with this? I know we've got some people, you know, representing us that seem to get this, but it's really, isn't it? I mean, it's really going to take our voices, we the people, raising our voices and saying, no, you're crossing the line here.

Yeah. And the best way to do it is by what you're doing right now, by staying informed. Join the Second Amendment Foundation, join NRA, join Gun Owners of America, join NAGR.

I don't care. But you have to have some source of information that you can trust. The other side, Joe Biden and his ATF are putting out propaganda like you cannot believe. The other team has a propaganda factory. They've got Tiny Mike Bloomberg up in New York. He's funding all these anti-gun groups.

Look at the trace. They make the propaganda. Every town makes the propaganda. The trace tries to, you know, claim it's some type of journalism organization.

They put out the propaganda. You have to stand for them. You have to listen to your show.

Listen to good shows that you trust. And you have to you have to become politically active. Now is the time not to sit on the benches anymore. OK, we don't need anybody sitting on the sidelines. We need people who are active and involved because our numbers are are much more than theirs. We just need everybody to help. And gosh, we need everybody's help more than ever. And I just would suggest, ladies and gentlemen, please don't go to sleep on this. Don't you know, Americans have this and I won't say it's laissez faire, but I think we just kind of deep down we're like, oh, come on.

I mean, they're not going to go that far. And I blame the church. I blame the church for propagating the idea that man is inherently good because he's not. OK, Jesus Christ came because man is inherently evil. In fact, John Chapter three says that the light will come into the world and men will choose darkness. So let's be clear, OK, the power, the governmental power, all of that. This is this is nothing new under the sun.

Man craves this. He goes after this and he tries to rule other people. And unfortunately, I mean, look at the history of Israel.

How many kings did they have that that that dispensed with God and his rules and took on their own and worshiped the devil over and over and over again? History is replete with with these authoritarian entities that try to take over. And and, you know, when people say to me, oh, you know, the anti government. No, this isn't an anti government movement. This is actually a pro we the people government movement. This is a pro constitutional republic government movement.

That's what this is. This is about putting God back over America again and and getting things in order. As our founders said. Our Constitution is fit only for a moral people. Do I want immoral people, criminals with guns in their hands taking advantage of of innocent citizens?

Absolutely not. But the only way you're going to stop that is is to arm the citizenry in order to defend themselves against these criminals, not set them free and put them back out on the street. No, we see that in Florida, where I live.

I'm in Sarasota, Florida. We just got the right to carry a firearm, a concealed firearm without having to bend a knee and beg permission from the government and pay a fee to have them sell my rights back to me. And the other team was, you know, they were predicting, oh, there's going to be blood in the street. There's going to be shootouts over parking spaces.

There's going to be massive killing. Nothing happened. Nothing. Right.

Nothing. Right. We deserve the right to defend ourselves as codified in the Second Amendment without any interference or or or other other problems from the government. And we're getting closer.

I think every day now more than half the country is allows you to carry a weapon concealed. But, you know, you can't stop. You look at what they're doing every single day. They're trying to take away that right. And we need people to help us stop that here.

Here. Well, you know, we we passed that here in Texas as well. You don't have to have a license now in order to carry conceal. You have it's not quite constitutional carry. But there is the ability to carry a concealed weapon without having to, again, as you said, pay for the right that is actually all right. And and hopefully, you know, in in a in another legislative session, you know, in the next two years, we will finally get in Texas to the place of having complete and total constitutional carry.

But nonetheless, we've we finally made some progress with that. Lee, thank you for being with me today. A Second Amendment Foundation is who Lee writes for. S.A.F. dot org. S.A.F.

That's Sam Alpha Frank dot org. Lee, final words. We've got about a minute and a half. Oh, I can't tell you, Pastor, how much I enjoy the conversation.

I hope your people enjoyed it, too. You seem to get it. One last thing. Keep an eye on the case that we originally started talking about and contact your your elected officials about this vanderstuck v. Garland, because the ATF is trying to take away the right to make a homemade firearms.

And give me the name of that. Give me the name of that case again. We can say that again. vanderstuck vanderstuck v. Garland as an attorney general, Merrick Garland. Keep an eye on that, folks. Contact your people, your elected officials.

It's an important case. 202-224-3121. 202-224-3121. You've got one congressman.

You've got two senators. You need to make three phone calls and you need to tell them to support vanderstuck v. Garland and and encourage them to make sure that they are making their voices heard with regards to defending our Second Amendment. Lee, God bless you, sir. I greatly appreciate you being with me today. Thank you. Anytime, Pastor. Thank you.

You bet. All right, folks, we're going to take our break. We'll be back. War number three coming up. Chadwick Moore is with us, the author of Tucker's biography, and we'll be back with him coming up right after this break.