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I am Patriot Mobile. That was a shooting gallery up there. I could hear the tremble in his voice. She suffered a very severe being. The video is pretty graphic.
Justice for us seems almost impossible. It's not fun to watch somebody die, and they knew she was in mortal peril. They have not asked the hard questions. Why was the Capitol intentionally unsecure that day? The FBI had information about security concerns before January 6th. They're out for blood, and they're getting it. They appear to be winning. Were the actions of the Capitol Police out of line?
Were there violations in use of force? Now I describe it as an inside job. I'm ready to do whatever God calls me. There's an old Chinese saying my ancestors learned before the Communist Party took over our country.
The family is the essential unit of human society, and that you must have honor and defend your family. I don't know what my audio looks like yet. But it's not always easy to do. I had a power outage. Oh my goodness. Give me one second here while I get squared away.
No problem. We've got about two minutes before we go live. Hi, Leah. Hi, how are you? I'm good. How are you?
I'm doing well. Oh my goodness. We had a tornado rip through here. Yeah, it was a small one touchdown from my understanding, but I was driving my son's girlfriend home last night and every road I tried to go down was completely blocked off.
Oh my gosh. Yeah, Delaware County last night actually made national news for something other than the stolen election. I didn't know there were tornadoes that went through.
Yeah, that's what they're saying. It could have just been extremely high winds. I actually felt an earthquake here yesterday.
I'm in Texas. Oh, wow. There was an earthquake in New Mexico, but I actually felt it here. Oh my goodness. I'm trying to think of what year that was.
2011, I guess. I was working in Millville, New Jersey, and there was an earthquake that hit in Virginia, and we could feel the shocks from it. Yeah. Did anyone else just feel the floor move? Because that was really weird. No doubt.
I grew up actually in the Bay Area, in the San Francisco Bay Area. And so in the 70s now, we had earthquakes just about every week. I mean, it was crazy. That was when they started writing the books about the end of the world, because they really did think the world was going to go to an end for the praises of Him who has called you out of darkness into His marvelous life, which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God, which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy.
And now shows a generation where no topic is off limits. Yeah. All right. We've got about 10 seconds. And then Leah, I'll ask you to give me the website you want me to put up with your name and then I'll get that typed in as we go.
With my name? Yeah. With the parallel election or? Yeah.
However you want me to just put in the parallel election, same thing that I have under Greg. Here we go. Coming in right now. And welcome to the program. Great to have you with me. Thanks so much for being here. I know you have a choice of where you can listen and watch each and every day.
And I thank you for keeping it tuned here to Children Generation Radio. Well, I'm really excited to have my next guests with me. Greg is a returning guest to the program. Leah's schedule had not previously allowed her to join us.
And I'm so glad that she is able to be here with us today. We've got this new indictment against President Trump. And my friend David Shostakis, we actually spent Wednesday a week ago, the whole hour, talking about that Jack Smith probably just stepped in it because now President Trump has the opportunity, if his defense team will take advantage of it, to present all of the election evidence that's never been heard. Let's talk about that. Who would like to begin? Again, parallel election, a blueprint for deception is the name of the book. Who wants to start?
Leah. Speaking of the parallels, you know, not only are we co-defendants with President Trump in a defamation case in Philadelphia, but, you know, we've been we've been completely let's say they've tried to intimidate us and they've tried to strip us of our rights and they tried using a protective order the way that they're doing with President Trump right now in our defamation case, except they tried doing it in a civil court in Pennsylvania. And what the left wing attorney, Connor Corcoran, who is a known activist, who's representing James Savage, what he tried to do was he tried using a civil court to use a protective order, basically tried to sneak in a I guess you could call it like a red flag kind of situation and tried to confiscate our firearms, tried to muzzle us and also tried to fine us fifteen thousand dollars for simply talking on podcasts and radio shows. So we had a hearing on June 20th in which he tried to illegally use this protective order. The judge never should have had the hearing because we don't have red flag laws in Pennsylvania.
We've also never been convicted of any crime. And he you know, he got destroyed. We spoke specifically about our constitutional rights. And Greg and I represented ourselves very well. And we wiped the floor with with with Connor Corcoran, to be to be quite honest, you know, but the parallels of what they're trying to do with President Trump and myself and Greg and anybody else that challenges the election, that they're trying to silence him. And it's not going to work. It's really not going to work. Let's talk about what what we know to be true about the what I would call it the stealing of an election.
Am I am I is that an appropriate word? It's a stealing of the of a nation is what it is. It's a stealing of a huge economy. And it's a stealing of our rights is is exactly what it is. But yes, the election is only part of what they really stole. So when you say that it define what you mean by that, Leo, when you say that that that the election is only part of what they stole, what what else should people be paying attention to? Well, Greg can talk a little bit more.
He's really good with history and and speaking about how they read it. They read a manifesto into our into our Congress years ago. And the plan was laid out back in the I believe, Greg, it was the 40s, correct? When they started talking about the agenda of how they were completely going to transform our country into a socialist communist country and the ways that they do that because you can never drop a bomb on the United States and you certainly could never invade us because we own 46 percent of the world's firearms.
So what they do is they come in with a biochemical weapon known as the the covered jab or the Fauci Alchi. They completely melt down our economy. Obama stole the petrodollar and and brought in the Green New Deal. They invaded our our churches, our schools. They shut us down. They invaded all the small businesses and they've been stealing from from the taxpayers to send it off.
It was so-called foreign aid. I mean, there's a multitude of ways that they've been destroying our country. But most importantly, they've been destroying our constitutional rights and also our Judeo-Christian values. Greg, one of the things that you and I have talked about is is is the specific methods that they've used to steal these elections and and the significant importance of of the election process in light of all the things Leah talked about.
And we've talked about a lot of this stuff on the program, including the administrative state, how out of control the judiciary is. It seems like every move that we attempt to make as patriots, we have to understand there are two or three steps down the road. And and the patriot movement is at this point playing catch up. What what can we do in the election process that that maybe helps to stem the tide or at least some of it?
Well, we we've been way behind, but we have caught up a little bit. What Leah just bears to mention before we go to what we've done to secure the elections and we've done quite a bit is to understand, you know, how it's happening. Leah touched on a few things, but you know, they read a communist manifesto into the U.S. Congress in nineteen sixty three in nineteen seventy eight. They created a thing called the council. Now the council is the DOJ inspector general office and core and then the FBI and then the sub agencies.
But primarily they call it the city CIG, I.E.. This small group of people are running, you know, basically running the country when people say, well, the CIA, George Soros or Obama, this is it's a very small group and we've identified them. And if you look at the indictment for Trump and the what happened during the elections and as Leah said, it just traces back to everything. Corona, the you know, the attack on our schools and churches and so forth.
This is a small group of people who think they run the country. Now we filed criminal criminal allegations with the House judiciary in July 4th. So I filed as a whistleblower probably as a federal witness.
I'm a federal whistleblower. We filed these allegations with the House, with Jim Jordan. Now he has the power and the House has the power to to to hold these people accountable. And the people that are going to hold accountable are Smith and Inspector General Horowitz and former Attorney General Barr and current Attorney General Rosen among a cast of characters that were named in the indictment or in the allegation.
So the what you're seeing now with the indictment with Trump and some of the other things you're seeing in the news is I wouldn't call it a panic attack, but we've caught they never panic, I would say, but they react and they respond. So going back from 2020 is important because what they've done specifically in the specific charge is that they obstructed federal investigations into the elections and the election fraud. So Leah and I filed our first lawsuit in November 4th of 2020. The day after the election, Leah and I filed our first suit. And now that court went all the way to the Supreme Court. U.S. Supreme Court refused to hear it.
They denied it. But we filed multiple cases since. But before we get to them, on November 7th, we notified the Department of Justice via William McSwain, who is the U.S. attorney for Pennsylvania, of these massive election fraud. On November 9th, now that went through the entire Department of Justice, the entire Inspector General core, the city and the council. It went through the FBI, all levels. It went to all 94 U.S. attorneys. It went to all 74 I.G.s. It went to the National Security Council, the CIA, all the sub agencies within two hours. Two hours it blew through the entire government on November 7th.
On November 9th, U.S. Attorney General Barr. Now, we have all the emails. Leah found this. She was doing a search and she found the initial FOIA. And then we went out and found more FOIAs that supplemented the evidence that Leah and I had already filed. So this is all corroborated.
This is undisputable, irrefutable that they federally obstructed investigations. So what Barr did is on November 9th. He said, well, there's no evidence of widespread fraud and the widespread. I'm putting the people who are watching not not are listening and not watching.
Right. What spread is the operative word? Because of the three thousand one hundred and forty three counties in the United States, it only takes twenty to swing an election. They targeted thirty two, but it only takes twenty to swing a national election. So that operative word of widespread is very important because they knew the Department of Justice who crafted the entire election fraud in the in the coup, they knew that we had them caught. So what they did is the news didn't report the word widespread.
The news reported that there was no evidence of election fraud. Now, what Leah and I have done since with the help of other people, other patriots, good patriots, is we filed legislation or litigation for the November twenty twenty two election to allow us to look and inspect the mail in envelopes in the mail. And they call them declarations the front of the envelopes to be able to verify voters. They were the court here, Common Pleas Court, which is a corrupt court. We have a corrupt Common Pleas Court in Delaware County. We have judges that do not obey the law and one of which we've accused of a felony which is still waiting to be heard. What they did was they won't hear the case. They just quashed it. Leah and I had a few hearings.
We had three hearings where we introduced evidence and we got election officials to admit that they had broken election law and violated the law. Let me let me let me jump in for just a minute. I'm sorry. No, no, no. You're doing great.
No, you're doing I mean, this is this is so important. But the other thing that I want people to understand because this is one of the challenges when when David just focus and I spoke about this, we talked about that Jack Smith has opened up a Pandora's box so that all this evidence can be can be brought in. I had Rick Manning on a little bit later on in the program and Rick said, I agree, except that if you look at the J six trials, every J six defendant who attempted to bring video evidence, supporting documentation, everything that they had to defend themselves, the judge wouldn't allow it. Even though it was a criminal case, even though in a criminal case, you're supposed to be able to present your defense.
He wouldn't let them to present the defense. Exactly. So So how do we how do we overcome that? And I see Leah is like bursting at the same way. Leah, let me just I know where you're going. I'm going to give you the Philadelphia introducing this stuff. Alright, so go quick, go quick because we because I got about 13 minutes.
I mean, I'm going right through the break. I'm holding it because I want to get all this in that we can. What what happened was you're exactly right. Of the 64 Trump cases, 20 were just 20 were just dismissed out of hand, and the rest would not allow evidence. Right. So by putting these allegations in the evidence, the DOJ already has. They have it in their own records.
And Leah, I know you're bursting. So what we did in the at the hearing in Philadelphia, Leah, you got taken from here about the evidence being able to introduce the evidence, please. So basically, there are things that attorneys will not do. And Greg and I, since we represent ourselves, you know, they should listen. Attorneys should be doing this stuff. They should be putting everything on the line at this point. There's no excuse. In my point, I don't care about your bar license.
We're not going to have a country. But basically, in a nutshell, what we did was in our first case, we front loaded the evidence. So instead of waiting for discovery, we just put everything right up front, which is exactly what Trump should be doing at this point. He should be his his attorney should be super aggressive, just like President Trump is. But what we did in Philadelphia was we asked the Trump we asked the judge specifically, did you verify and validate the evidence that we put the all of the information in the record that we provided?
He said yes. What that did was it placed the entire record into Philadelphia County. So right now we have evidence in a court, a trier of fact sitting in Philadelphia County, which is attached to President Trump.
So so what that means, because, you know, I mean, I know you guys are you will you had to you had to become familiar with all of their tricks and everything that they're doing. But essentially, what that means then is is that because it's a part of the legal court document accepted system, it can be brought over into the case that has been brought against President Trump in this latest indictment is that is that what I'm hearing you to tell me, that is 100% what I'm telling you. And the other thing that they need to be doing the attorneys and I'm speaking directly to you because I don't trust any of them. But what I'm saying to them is that I don't understand how they're not bringing forth Brady violations, which is another way of them to bring forth evidence and a Brady violation is it was Marilyn versus Brady. But in a nutshell, if any time a prosecutor holds exculpatory evidence, meaning if there is evidence of their of their malfeasance, malfeasance or their innocence destruction to be given to the defense. So they should be they should be filing massive Brady violations at this point against Jack Smith and every other prosecutor that was involved in J6.
Absolutely. And they didn't what they didn't do. And we know some of the people involved, the attorneys didn't request discovery. But regardless of the fact that they didn't request that exculpatory evidence, I wouldn't say it excuses them, but they like they didn't know about it. But the federal prosecutors had a responsibility and a requirement to give it to them to disclose that they had not investigated J6. Now, without without that disclosure, and as Leah said, without having introduced that exculpatory evidence, the J6 is every single person they found guilty is exonerated. Well, yeah, they were. At least they can come back with that defense. Right.
Leah, Leah, I just want to be one clear on the Philadelphia. We're co-defendants with President Trump in a defamation suit here so he can absolutely use the evidence that Leah and I introduced into the court record, which includes the federal obstruction of investigations by the DOJ. He's got that in his hands and he can use that, you know, to fight his indictment.
Now, let me ask let me ask you this and just popped into my head. I've had Lloyd Brunson on the program and we've talked with him about his suit and the Supreme Court's hesitancy to to take it. But he he's got some attorneys now and they are using another method by which to refile to the Supreme Court that I guess is available to them. Is the information I'm sure you're familiar with the case is the information that you are that you and Leah have is is that evidence that that Brunson could use relative to his charges of of basically fraud against these congressional members? Absolutely. Because some of those congressional members and the people that were named in his suit because he sued three hundred and five members of Congress. Right. Some of those very same people are named in our evidence and are in the emails in the foyer for, you know, that they they were absolutely aware that there was massive election fraud and they did nothing to further that investigation.
They knew the investigation had been obstructed by DOJ and the city and the FBI. They knew it and we can prove it. So, yes, it does apply to Brunson and they will, you know, they will be able to use that if they they contact us. I will be happy to work with them. Well, I will I'll be happy to make an introduction. If you guys haven't connected with Lloyd Brunson yet, I'll I'll make a text, a text introduction.
We'll get that done. Greg, I've got your cell number and you can get me Leah's and we can make that happen. I'd love to connect you with David Shostakis as well, because he's connected to one of Trump's attorneys and and was going to, you know, suggest to him very strongly. He was actually going to be meeting with him last week, but to suggest him very strongly that that they use the tact in in a manner of speaking that you're talking about, because he was one of the ones that testified in Allegheny County with Rudy Giuliani regarding what what he personally witnessed being kept in the cage. Leah, also at Gettysburg. Greg and I were witnesses at Gettysburg as well. So I'm in time. I don't remember who David is. Maybe if I saw him by face.
But we were there that day. OK, well, again, you know, I'm I'm I'm one of those connector guys. I feel like I'm playing that game, you know, where it's got like all the little faces and stuff. And then, you know, you go, oh, wait a minute.
Under no, it's under that tab. Let me connect this tab to that tab and put those guys together. So I love doing that. I really do. It's the least I can do for my country. All right. As as as we sit right now, I guess the other thing and I think I'm thinking about, you know, Larry Klayman has been doing a lot with citizen grand juries. If we can't get the judiciary to actually do their jobs, would it would a citizen the sitting of a citizen grand jury on this be a possibility?
I don't know. I'm just throwing it out there. There are many possibilities that the Constitution, you know, provides for us and for the people. I don't say citizen because that that that I understand.
I know. We are the people. Yes. Of people's grand jury.
That's right. So yes, yes, absolutely. There's many options.
And that being one of them, there are other options that we're going to be taking in the very near future as well. When it comes to the legislature, you mentioned Mr. Mr. Jim Jordan and and and his committee. What can my audience do?
What can we the people do to put some pressure and and and and and maybe, you know, create a little bit of uncomfortableness for these people who refuse to do their jobs? Let me take this one being by phone calls, emails and faxes to Jim Jordan's office so that can be one of them. Okay. 202-224-3121. By the way, folks, is the Capitol switchboard 202-224-3121.
Greg? July 4th, we said I submitted the allegations, his staff, the judiciary staff and Jim Jordan staff. We've sent three follow ups and they have not.
They're all over by LinkedIn. And I know they got they received it. We have the receipts.
They have not presented it to Jordan yet. So the pressure that Leah said, you know, having people call and say, look, you've got criminal allegations against Smith and Barr and Ray and Horowitz sitting OK in your staff and your own staff is withholding. OK, so I'm sending a text to you and Jim together. What would you like me to say? Just say, please acknowledge receipt of Gregory Stenstrom's criminal allegations, which we do not believe your staff has provided to you yet.
Something like that. I didn't know you had Jim Jordan's text if I knew that I would have called you last week. Well, see, but if you just reach out to me, you'll find these things out.
Just tease it. OK. Of the criminal allegations, allegations presented to your staff. Right. Presented to you that are being withheld by your staff. And we know they're being withheld.
They refused to respond. And if you want to trade numbers, we'll give them the names and we'll send them the emails that have been sent three different emails to his chief of staff for the Judiciary Committee and to his own staff in his home state. You know who else I'm going to add to this? His friend, Chip Roy.
Oh, I like Roy. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, OK. Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah.
And actually, in my testimony, if you look, if you've watched my testimony, you'll see a picture of me and Jim and Chip having dinner together. Oh, OK. So it's great.
I love when he goes off on a rant. It's great. Me too. Me too. All right.
We are just about at the end of our time together. Final. So the text is sent. You'll see it on your phone, Greg.
It should. Well, there you go. We're not we're not we're hey, we're not playing around. This is serious. This is serious stuff. And it needs to be handled and needs to be taken care of.
Two oh two two two four thirty one twenty one. Call the switchboard and tell them you want to speak to Jim Jordan's office and you want them to respond to the out to the criminal allegations that have been presented to them by Gregory Stenstrom and Leah Hoops. That's it. OK. And and if folks want to reach either of you or both of you to say, hey, you know, send me however that works, what's the best way?
You can. Gregory has a social media platform, www.patriot.online. You can find us there. You can search by name. You can find me on Facebook. Leah Hoops. You can find me also on Telegram. Leah Hoops, the Delco Patriot. You can find me on True Social.
Any any platform you could possibly think of. You can find us there. OK. All right. Gregory Stenstrom and Leah Hoops. Father, I just I just lift these two folks up to you, Greg and Leah. And I ask you, Father God, for your hand of protection to be upon them. I ask you to put warring angels around them and around their families, around their finances, around every aspect of their lives. Right now, I create a canopy of protection and I ask you, Father God, to place that upon them.
And I break off every assignment of the enemy against them right now by the power of the Holy blood, cross, resurrection and ascension of the true Lord Jesus Christ of Nazareth who came in the flesh. And I ask Father God, Lord, that you would restore our nation, restore our nation. In the name of Jesus Christ, we pray. Amen. Amen. Thank you, Pastor Greg. Thank you.
One last thing. Could you if you guys can also find us at w w w dot parallel election dot com, where you can get a copy of our book. There we go. And that's a great way to support them, folks. W w w dot parallel election.
You can see it on your screen if you're watching parallel election dot com. Correct. Fantastic. The Lord bless you. Thanks so much for being with me today. I really appreciate it. All right. Quick break.
Lisa Paglia Skinner. We have some leadership that might have dementia. How do we handle that? We'll be back with that coming up right after this brief break. Thank you. Thanks. Thanks.
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And again, just encourage you to go to parallelelection.com, parallelelection.com and support Gregory Stenstrom and Leah Hoops and what they're doing. And you can follow up with phone calls to Jim Jordan at 202-224-3121, 202-224-3121. And just tell him, we want you to respond to the criminal evidence that's been presented to your office regarding the election fraud. And both Gregory and Leah have already presented that to his office. And as you watched in the last segment, we texted Jim Jordan.
I sent a text to his personal phone, along with Chip Roy. So hopefully, we'll get some action with regards to that. Well, I'm very excited to welcome my next guest to the program. And we have a very serious issue when it comes to the impact of Alzheimer's and Parkinson's and these kinds of illnesses. And of course, we're watching them impact leadership in our country. But, you know, you see stories if you follow on social media.
And maybe you've even had friends where you see a story and a friend puts something out and says, hey, my dad's gone missing or my mom went for a walk and we're having trouble finding them. These are serious issues. And joining me now to talk about them is an expert in this area, Ask Lisa Skinner, Lisa Paglia Skinner. Lisa, welcome to the program. It's a pleasure to have you. Thanks for being with us today. Well, thanks for inviting me, Greg. It's really a pleasure to be here.
Appreciate you having me on. Let me ask you, how long have you been engaged in working with and helping the elderly? Professionally, I am nearing 30 years, but my very first experience with Alzheimer's disease was closer to 50 years ago when my grandmother's was showing definite signs of having the disease.
I went over to her house one day to visit and she started telling me about these birds that lived in her mattress and only came out at night and pecked at her face and the rats were invading her home and men were trying to kill her. So that was my very first experience with it. I was a teenager at the time. And then just kind of the way things worked out, I ended up getting my degree in human behavior. I'd always been fascinated by it. And I just kind of ended up working with the elderly and helping families really have a better understanding of the disease because it's very, very complicated.
And there's a lot of strange things that surface as a result of the damage being done to the brain like hallucinations and delusions. And so I really found my calling in helping families have a better understanding of the disease and teaching them and caregivers how to have a better experience because it's a long, long journey. My grandmother, for example, lived with it for 20 years. It's a long time for a family to go through an illness with somebody. And Greg, since then, I have had a total of eight family members develop one of the diseases that causes dementia. There are actually over 100 known brain diseases.
You mentioned a few of them. So it's very near and dear to my heart. And I feel like I've really dedicated my life to helping families have an easier time of it because anybody that's experienced this disease knows just really how difficult it is to get through it. So if I can help make that experience more positive for the person suffering from the disease and the family members, caregivers, then I feel like I've really made a huge contribution. They refer to it as kind of the long goodbye, and we've experienced it. I mean, both my mother-in-law and my father-in-law had issues in that area and due to falls, strokes, heart attacks, things of that nature that caused that. And it is, it's a really challenging thing to walk into a room with somebody that you've known for many, many, many years and know that they really don't know who you are.
And I think you nailed it there. It really is a very long goodbye. But in addition to it being a long goodbye, it's also a situation where family members have to go through the grief process twice. They lose their loved one twice. Once when their mind disappears and they no longer recognize anybody and they don't know who they are or where they are. And then of course, again, upon their physical death, so the surviving people, we really have to experience, we've experienced that loss twice.
And that's a tough, tough emotional rollercoaster to ride on. And I think to some degree, you have to acknowledge that every time you have, and with my mother-in-law, we cared for her right here at the house, actually in the room that I'm in. This was the room that she was in for eight years. And so every time, about six years, I guess, but every time that you have encounters, it's kind of, you know, there were flashes where she would know, and then she wouldn't. And there were days when she completely had no idea. And so, you know, you're saying goodbye, almost on a daily basis in that kind of a situation, more or less, because you know who you're talking to, but they don't.
Does that make sense? You know, they know that you are part of their life and that you fit into their timeline somehow, somewhere, even though they can't always place you to the exact time or period. You're the person that takes care of me.
You're the, you're, yeah, you're the fascinating. So the way I like to describe it to people, because it's very relatable, think of the short term memory, which in the case of Alzheimer's disease is the very first part of the brain that begins to be attacked and damaged by the disease. So think of that short term memory as having an on off switch hooked up to it like a light. In the very first stages of the disease, that switch is on more times than it's off or more often than it's off. So the short term memory is functioning fairly regularly when, and then just kind of out of nowhere, that switch gets flipped off and the short term memory kind of short circuits people retain their long term memories throughout the disease. But when that switch flips off, they are now pulling from their past, their long term memories. Now, as a person progresses through the disease, that switch that that on off switch is on about half the time and off about half the time. And then in the latter part of the disease, the more the end stage, it's off more than it's on.
And in some people, it permanently goes off. So where's their memory? It's in the past, because they're pulling from their long term memories, right, which stay intact. So during this phase, the mid mid stage, when it's on half the time and off half the time, you can tell by the things they're saying if that switch was all of a sudden flipped off, because they're talking about things from their past.
Absolutely. Yeah, they might not recognize you as the son or the son in law. Because since they're living in a prior period of their life, maybe you didn't even got married yet. How could she possibly have an adult son in law when she thinks in her mind, she's 10 years old, or even a daughter for that matter, or even know that she has a daughter because again, like you said, she's, she's living her reliving, we witnessed that we live in this the childhood we met with her dad.
You know, he went through those progressions as well. It's interesting. I'm curious, have they figured out is there a way since you know, what's coming to try to move a more recent memory into the long term arena? Yes, by through what we call reminiscence therapy.
Okay, I mean, I can I can elaborate a little bit on that. But yes, that is very, very effective for triggering memories and people with now short term memory loss is the hallmark of Alzheimer's disease. But it's not necessarily the hallmark of Parkinson's disease or vascular dementia, but a lot of the symptomology is intermingled. Okay, those symptoms are what we refer to as dementia. So dementia is not a disease. Alzheimer's is a disease. Parkinson's is a disease. Huntington's disease is a brain disease. And they vary a little bit, because they attack different parts of the brain. But a lot of the behaviors, a lot of the symptoms, a lot of the signs are, you know, kind of in the bucket that we call dementia. And it's really referring to the signs and the symptoms that are caused by one of these brain diseases. But the hallmark of Alzheimer's really is the loss of your short term memory and that switch gets flipped on and off constantly. And the best way I tell my clients the best way to recognize that that switch is off or on is to listen to what they're saying. If they're talking about, you know, where's my mommy?
And what time is she coming to pick me up? You know, that switch went off and they're somewhere back in their childhood. And where they end up is different for everybody. I've seen people revert back to childhood. I've seen people revert back to adolescent years to the prime of their life when they were young mothers.
It varies from person to person. Well, we watched it vary from event to event. I mean, many times it was not the same. It was sometimes they were back in the childhood. Sometimes they were a teenager. Sometimes they were a young single adult. Sometimes they were a young married adult.
I mean, it there were a lot of variables that that we, you know, that we discovered with regards to it. When they're in that past phase, let's do this for a couple of minutes. When they're in that past phase, do you try to bring them forward?
Is it better just to visit with them about where they're at? That is probably one of the best questions that anybody could ever ask. Thank you. It's been studied for decades. And the thought process on that years and years ago was to try to steer them back into your reality. Well, we found it didn't work. Sure.
And the best approach that studies have found is we do what's called join or embrace their reality. Okay. So the answer to your question is, and I've had this happen to me because my mother-in-law was one of the eight family members. She was over visiting one day and she stood up and she demanded that I take her home. It was that switch just went off like out of nowhere. We were having a nice conversation and all of a sudden she jumped out of the off the sofa and she said, you have to take me home.
You have to take me home. Marty needs to have his dinner and he's going to be worried about me. Well, make a long story short, Marty was her deceased husband.
And that switch went off. She went back to a past period of time. She believed her husband was still alive and well and waiting for his dinner, her to come home to fix some dinner. Now our gut instinct, our instinctive reaction would be to say something like, well, mom, no, don't you remember? Dad died five years ago. That's probably one of the worst things you can do to somebody because she believes he's alive and well. And if I had said that to her, I would have created a total panic. Trauma.
Nobody told me. What happened? So what I did was I said, oh no, he just called. I just, I told him that we were having a really wonderful visit. We were having a great time and he told me to tell you that he's fine.
Stay as long as you want. He'll see you when you get home. And she sat back down and she said, are you sure? Are you sure he doesn't want me to come home right now? I said, no, no, no.
I'll take you home in a little while. And she completely dropped the whole subject. She was okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's, it's interesting. We, we, we experienced the same thing that we would, we would, you know, just kind of go along and, and, and, you know, bring the story out and let them talk. I mean, in a way it's, it's, it's, it's an interesting way to learn a lot about family history that you would have no idea you would know. Yeah.
You really wouldn't know because they're normally in normal conversation. We don't talk about what we experienced when we were six or seven or eight or nine or 10 years old. You, we don't talk about those things, but if you're reliving that now, all of a sudden, all those memories are there and, and you, you can kind of ask questions and, and, and, you know, anyway, it's kind of, it's, it's different that way.
All right. Um, here's a question for you as well on, on the go forward. Let's say I'm, I'm 61.
I'll be 62 coming up on 62. We all begin to start to have, you know, those moments where we're like going, we're reaching for a word, right? Where, you know, and, and I, I do, I do talk three hours a day. So when I'm reaching for a word, it's in front of a whole lot of people, but, but when those things are happening, should, should I, should a person be concerned because they're having difficulty remembering a particular word or something along that line?
Uh, could it just be a fatigue issue? Uh, what, what, how, how would you, how would you counsel someone or what would you say to somebody? What's, what are the, you know, the, the triggers for, for the person themselves to begin to think? Cause I know a lot of people get into a panic and they're like, Oh my gosh, I think I'm going to get it. And, and it's like, no, you're just experiencing some, some normal symptoms that come with age. And that really Greg is what makes this disease, these diseases so difficult and so complicated. And most doctors don't even diagnose people until they're well into their midst stages of the disease for this very reason.
It is so difficult for doctors to definitively pinpoint a brain disease that's causing these symptoms versus a couple of things, the normal aging forgetfulness process, which happens to all of us. I mean, just the other day I walked into my kitchen. Now, why did I come in here?
I could not remember for the life of me. I had to walk out. This is, I walked out. Oh yeah, that's the reason why I went.
Spin back around and go back in. Sure. Yep.
Yep. Like you say, reaching for a word. I can honestly admit that happens to me all the time, but I don't panic and think that, um, I might be all of a sudden developing Alzheimer's disease. I'm concerned about it because I've had so many, five out of the eight family members who have developed Alzheimer's disease and my family were blood relatives.
So yes, I'm a very high risk, but I also know that these things that occur are common, just a part of the normal aging process. Then you have what they call what, what the medical professionals call mild cognitive impairment. Mild cognitive impairment is a step above just the normal aging forgetfulness that we pretty much all experience, but it's not, it has not developed into Alzheimer's disease yet. Now sometimes people develop or have mild cognitive impairment and it never develops into Alzheimer's disease, but in a lot of people it eventually does.
It's, it's, it's, it's, it's a progress. It's a progression into potentially now some people never, never leave the mild cognitive impairment. Now I know that, you know, I, I, I was in addition to the accident I told you about, I was also given three to six months to live back in 2004 because my endocrine system collapsed and so my pituitary gland and my adrenal gland just plain stopped working. And, but so I started on naturopathy and taking naturopathic types of stuff, things to feed the brain and, and, and so on.
I know the medical profession sometimes tends to be like, you know, but, but I know personally from my own personal experience, it works. Do you, as you're talking with folks, are there things that you suggest, you know, hey, you might want to, you know, like, like fish oils is, is, is something that really helps to feed the mind. There are other things that are out there that I know, you know, that, that people will take.
Do you suggest that people beef up on their vitamins as they're aging or what do you think? No, I don't. Okay. Because I'm not a doctor. I understand. Yeah.
I'm not trying to give, not trying to give medic. I follow the facts. I do a lot of research. I'm up on top of all the studies. So I, I, I follow the facts and the things that we do know, and I'll try to keep this as short as possible, but for people to really understand, we know through decades and decades and decades of studies that there are many risk factors that kind of all go into factoring, whether or not somebody's, um, what somebody's risk will end up being for developing Alzheimer's disease.
Okay. There are risks that are not changeable or we call them non-modifiable. And then there are risk factors that are modifiable. So the number one risk factor to developing Alzheimer's disease, which happens to be non-modifiable is age. Can't change that.
We are the age we are. Another non-modifiable risk factor is your gender. More women develop Alzheimer's disease than men.
We know that it's a fact. Uh, your ethnicity plays a role into that. Can't change that. So there are several of these risk factors. Then you have the risk factors that are modifiable. And then let me tell you a little bit about those.
There are many, many of them, but the number one modifiable risk factor that adds to your risk of developing Alzheimer's disease is having cardiovascular disease condition. Okay. But that's treatable.
Okay. If you're under a doctor's care, it's treatable. Diabetes is a huge risk factor. Well, that falls under cardiovascular.
Sleep apnea, having sleep apnea is a risk factor. So what basically the bottom line is what I'm saying is the more of these risk factors that apply to any individual person, the higher their risk will be developing Alzheimer's disease. So things that you can do, and again, we're not providing you with a medical advice, but things that you can do to stay healthier, keep your heart healthy, you know, things diet. Yep.
There you go. The old adage, you, you are what you eat is very true. Another modifiable risk factor is what you choose to eat.
If you follow a healthier diet, like a Mediterranean style diet, something like that, where you're eating more the complex carbs and the leafy green vegetables and not processed foods, then that's a health, those are healthier lifestyle choices. And we, the studies have also demonstrated that exercise is also an integral part of lowering your risk factor. So no, I don't, I don't, um, I tell people these things because they're supported by studies and they're peer reviewed and by facts. So I tell people what I know, but no, I don't ever say, Oh, you know, you, you should take fish oil because we know it because we don't know that, you know, those type of supplements are not regulated by the FDA and they make claims that simply are false. So I'm not going to go there, but I do follow the facts and I let people know, um, the things that have been kind of substantiated. And we know there's no question about it. Healthy lifestyle choices, food that you eat, getting regular exercise, exercising your brain by doing things like learning a foreign language or learning a musical instrument.
All of those things can help negate those things from being a high, uh, putting you, you know, back in the high risk. And I want to give the website, we got, I only got about 10 seconds. All seniors, safe and sound.com. Correct. Um, no, that was my old one. My website is www dot truth, lies and Alzheimer's spell out the and, and d.com. Okay.
Truth, lies and Alzheimer's. We're out of time. Lisa, thank you so very much, folks. I'll be back. Your number three, number two, however many you want to count it, but we'll be back. Ken Thornburg joins me on the other side. We're going to talk about spiritual warfare coming up right after this brief break.
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