CGR THURSDAY 072023 Susan Katz Keating Neale Bayly

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We'll be talking with him about how democracies and republics rise and fall and where are we right now with the craziness that's happening in our country on that scale on that timeline. Neil Bailey is with us next hour to talk about real life stories from Ukraine. But joining me now and this folks this is this is really breaking news and I'm very very thrilled to to have her with me. Know that that's not her on the cover of Fortune Soldier of Fortune.

That is a that is a picture of Mr. Sylvester Stallone many many moons ago and and actually one a guy that I that I just really think a great deal of Sylvester Stallone I interviewed his brother Frank years and years ago. But at any rate Soldier of Fortune writer and and she also was a writer for American Media Institute. She is a longtime investigative journalist. She specializes in terrorism and national security. She's won a number of awards broken stories for magazines like People and Time magazine back when Time magazine actually was a real magazine.

She's also a former Washington Times security reporter, author of Prisoners of Hope exploiting the POW, MIA myth in America. I want to welcome to the program Susan Katz Keating. Susan, welcome. Good to have you. Thanks for being with me today. Oh, thank you so much for having me on. I really appreciate it. And you know what, I love that Rambo picture.

I think it kind of looks like me. Maybe I'm honored that you had me on. Thank you so much. Well, hey, it's it's my pleasure to have you on and thank you for what you're doing to to just expose this continued corruption that that we are seeing.

Talk to me about the story as it as it has developed. Because now all the news networks are running around saying, oh, they destroyed all the evidence is gone. There's no more evidence.

It's all gone. They could, they can't possibly know anything because they've destroyed all the evidence. I believe you're going to tell me this morning that that's not true. You're you're right.

I'm going to tell you that. According to my sources and I believe my sources, and I'll tell you why I believe them is because I've talked to them before, and I trust them. And they're telling me that this cocaine sample has not been destroyed. I believe that it's still being held in an evidence locker. So the stories about the sample being being snuffed, that's not true. It may have been sniffed, but it wasn't snuffed.

Alright, so let's let's get down to some specifics. Where was this cocaine actually found? Because there's also been a lot of confusion about specifically where where they located this.

You're right. There are there are a couple of different stories going around. And we can kind of put that on a back burner because I think there might be a reason for for why there are a couple of locations. But this was found in a little locker inside a locked cubby in the White House in an area where very few people would have access to coming in through that particular door that led to that to that little area. So it was it was in a little cubby that was locked, there was a key and a Secret Service agent found it because he was doing his job, they have to sweep, they have to make sure that there are no threats that have come into the White House that could hurt the president or any of the important business that goes on there.

And they found this, they found this substance. So when they say, Susan, that that, you know, they, well, we don't have any, you know, video footage, we don't have any, you know, monitoring that was done. When they tell us and you're and you've described this as a sensitive area, there's obviously keys and locks and so forth associated so that someone would believe that they could put something in a locker in that area that would be secure. Is it not disconcerting to think that someone could get to that location undetected?

Well, it's, I think it's silly to think that that they could do that. Of course, they know who was in there. This is one of the most, this is the nerve center of the world, right?

This is the President of the United States. And it's the People's House. And it's highly protected and guarded. They, they know who goes through these, you know, little detector dots, like they, they, they know who comes into the White House. And if they don't, well, somebody's really in a coma. And that should be addressed. But they know who went in there.

And they know. They know roughly when the cocaine was left, because they do these routine checks. So on check, check number one, it wasn't their check number two, it was. So now, what would be normal procedure, when you find something in an area like this, that's not supposed to be there? You have to find out what it is, and who brought it in.

So it so what my my sources are telling me, and by the way, part of this is, was actually on open radio traffic, they did not encrypt it. So the agent finds a substance, and it, it's white powder. So what's the first thing you're going to think of? If you're concerned about threats, you're gonna say, Oh, my gosh, it's anthrax. Let's, let's make sure it's not anthrax, right, right. Because anthrax could get into the air ducts, it could cause all kinds of problems, as it has done in the past.

So they evacuate the White House for safety to make sure no one gets hurt. Then they call in a hazmat unit from the DC Fire Department to make sure that it's not anthrax so along comes along comes DC Fire, they test it, it's not anthrax. They retest it, it's cocaine. So then the problem is, well, you know, in the District of Columbia, I believe it's a misdemeanor if I'm not and I'm only speaking off the top of my head here. It's not a major crime to have cocaine in the District of Columbia. But it is a federal crime on federal property, which the White House is. So they determine that it is cocaine, then they have this moment where we have to figure out what to do with it. So according to my sources, the cocaine then gets handed off, not to the Secret Service, but to DC police, which by the way, is not their jurisdiction.

It shouldn't be the jurisdiction. That's that's what I'm working on now is finding out how they came into the picture. Because it should have been FBI. But it wasn't they didn't they didn't show up.

My goodness. Okay, so so now we have a situation where we have this cocaine that's been brought into the White House. It is a federal crime, somebody has committed a federal crime. Some of the dialogue that's coming out again, is is an ending is them saying, Well, you know, we we just we really can't tell who got in there or how they got in there or, or or when they got in there. And and that was the first thing that that, you know, I think of as as a as a former member of the United States Air Force Intelligence and a Russian linguist is, okay, how does somebody get into a sensitive area like that, completely undetected?

And there are there's no no safety measures in place? I mean, what message does that send to the rest of the world? Well, I think the message it sends is, somebody's not telling the truth. I think it's sending it's a very clear message that we know who brought it in. And we're not going to say. But my sources did tell me that they know who who handled that cocaine. And I cannot reveal the person's name right now. But I have that information.

Well, and so what that says, Susan is, is that if you have the information of who handled it, then they obviously know who handled it as well. And so all of this right now is, is about is is just a ball of lies. Yes, yes, indeed.

And I am I am not going to let up on this story. Because this is our country. This is this is our country. This is our White House.

This is the people's house. And we cannot have these. We can't have cocaine being brought in. We cannot have cover ups. We can't have people being protected for whatever reason that you can deduce as to why someone is being protected. The truth has to come out.

Because if you remember, Richard Nixon, who was who was brought down over the Watergate, it wasn't Watergate. It wasn't the break in that kind of it was the cover up. Right. It was the obstruction. Correct.

Yeah, that's what brought down his presidency. Yeah, it was it was it was the obstruction that actually caused caused the the situation to be what it was, by the way, congratulations on on your purchase of Soldier of Fortune magazine. Oh, thank you. Thank you. I'm very proud of that. Yes, yes, I'm trying to I'm trying to build up my Rambo gear.

I think maybe like I don't know, I should get a headband or go to the gym and really beef up my muscles or something. But it's a work in progress. There we go. I've really, really had a good time with it.

Thank you a lot. A lot of a lot of a lot of stories to bring out. Most definitely a lot of stories to bring out.

Absolutely. What's the biggest thing in the midst of this that you want the American public to be aware of and and and what pressure should we be putting on the President and the White House as far as coming clean to what's taking place here? The big message I would like to get across is the absolute dedication, loyalty and and true goodness of the men and women who are on the on the ground protecting this country that the Secret Service agents themselves are in a really difficult spot.

And I think that we should we should all appreciate what they do and why they do it. But we should pressure the administration not to use our public servants as their own little thieves. This is not a personal protection racket for for the occupant of the White House. Now one of the things that I'm that I'm hearing too relative to the whole DC police and and and that is is that the mayor of DC has brought forth a nomination of an individual that is apparently very tied in with BLM. Oh, I had not heard that.

Okay, so that one is outside of my wheelhouse. But you know, I believe in the power of the ballot box over over the arm of light in civic politics. You know, I don't believe that violence is is the answer because we're actually very stable and good country. We've got a really good system here. And if people don't like what's going on, then change it, change it through the the orderly method that we have developed that has worked for this country.

Well, I know I I agree with you. I'm I'm I'm concerned about obviously the, you know, radical judiciary and some of the decisions that they're making what we're watching with that. I'm concerned about the the integrity of the ballot box. And and where we stand with that, I guess I've talked with people who have direct information about problems with the integrity of that box. These are questions that we all need to ask.

Yeah. And I think I think we need to pull those threads. I also think that all of us have the responsibility to look at history to just study recent history and see what has happened in other countries where you you you find that there's like a real power clique in charge, and that the rules change for them. It's like, we have to make sure that we're aware of the fact that this has happened before.

Yeah, in other places where we're a power clique has rules for them that don't apply to the rest of us, and vice versa. Yeah, well, and and and that takes us right back to, you know, this situation, the discovery of of this cocaine at the White House. Should we I mean, in light of what we know about Hunter Biden and the laptop and, and, and his book and the boasts that are on there on the laptop, the video. My, there was there was the film, you know, my son Hunter, I don't know if you saw that or not. I did not but it kind of gives me the willies just to think of what it would be on it. Well, it was a you know, it was it was all based on everything that was on the laptop and everything that was, you know, that was in his book. My friend Robert Davi was the director of it.

And and you know, I talked with Robert about it. I mean, he just he took what was on the laptop, the videos, the evidence, they had to look at that junk, they had to go through that garbage in order but in order to, you know, create a relatively accurate film that, that almost seemed, you know, paradoxical. But but was in fact, predicated on on facts and truth, but it's, it's his, his life is so ridiculously out of control, that it's, it's hard to look at it and think, man, can somebody really be living like this? But when you line that up now, and now we find, you know, I mean, do you believe that there was cocaine in the White House?

Me? Absolutely. Of course there was. So based on what I watched, when I watched my son Hunter, I mean, it doesn't surprise me that that they found cocaine in the White House, what was really hilarious is, in a way, is this cocaine is is put under lock and key. So, so it wasn't even I mean, who knows what state of mind the individual was that was, you know, using it when they did it, what have you. But it wasn't just left out on a table.

It wasn't just in the family quarters. It was somebody intentionally took this coke and opened up a locked safe and put it in there and, and relocked it, obviously, for some kind of safekeeping. My understanding is that this is these little locked cubbies have been they can be used for Oh, do you want to put your cell phone in here? Do you want to just deposit something that you're not going to bring into other areas of the White House? And they're for safekeeping.

It's like, say like you go get an MRI, for example, right? You know, they give you a locker, you know, you put your stuff in the locker that it's that kind of a situation. It's not under armed guard, but it is locked. So what this tells me is that someone walked in like, Oh, oh, wait, the cocaine. I got I got to put this in the in the cubby. They, they deliberately put it in, knowing that they were going to come, come back and retrieve it at some point.

Right? And you asked a question earlier is, is what should people say to the administration? I think they need to say, come clean, tell the truth. You know, stop, stop hiding all the different things that you're hiding and just come clean.

Come clean or leave. Well, and so then that also begs this question, which which is and I guess this is more of an opinion piece. But, you know, how important is it for the for integrity? Well, I'll ask you this as an investigative longtime investigative journalist who has connections and then now with soldier, soldier of fortune all around the world. What does this make America look like to the rest of the world? I think it makes us look weak, foolish and corrupt and unwilling to face the truth.

How do we move forward? And because a lot of the issues that we're involved in, you know, whether it's stopping trafficking or or whether it's, you know, calling out other regimes for illicit behavior that they're doing the Mexican drug cartels and so forth. What does this do to our to our ability to to morally address those issues? It completely undercuts it. Because the response that we get from a lot of these countries is, you know, clean up your own house or, you know, it's look who's talking.

How can you argue with that? You know, if you've got the the commander in chief who I'm pretty sure he knows who's cocaine that was or maybe maybe he's so maybe they haven't told him. I don't know. I don't want to speculate. But by President Biden does not appear to me to be all there.

Yeah, to be to be fully functioning. Okay, so right. Who knows? Maybe maybe no one has told him maybe maybe they they've said that there was no I don't know.

I really don't. Right. Yeah, it's it's it's it's possible that that this is something we don't even know whether he's been been briefed with regards to this situation or not. We don't have any idea.

I guess. Look, finding out you said that you have a pretty good idea as to who who's whose fingerprints are are on this cocaine. What do you what happens is and what happens to that person and and and what happens if I mean, what it looks to me like is is they're just kind of doing the rope a dope and waiting for this to just kind of blow over and let's find a bigger story and hopefully people will just kind of forget about it. You are absolutely right. In fact, if you'll notice there the day I think it was the day that I revealed in soldier fortune that we knew who who had handled the cocaine.

I believe that there came an announcement from the White House that they were going to negotiate for the release of a Wall Street Journal reporter who's being held in Russia. So they already they tried that diversionary tactic. But as you know, you've been in this business for so, so long. Pastor Greg, you know that the news cycle is just it's five minutes. Yeah.

And right. So it's almost to the point of if UFOs landed in Philadelphia, it would be a big story for a day until, you know, two days later, when there's a tsunami somewhere or somebody else has a scandal. Well, and one of their tactics and then we're going to we're going to be we're going to run out of time here. But I just like to get your thoughts on it very quickly. But one of their tactics to is, is to run stuff through for about a minute, give it 30 seconds, give it a minute.

So that somewhere down the road when somebody says, Well, you didn't cover, they can point back and say, Yeah, we did right here. Look, we said something. It's all such theater. And it's it's really disheartening. But I, I have faith in the in the American people. I really do.

And people such as yourself who are really working day to day to keep these issues before the public. I really appreciate what you're doing. Thank you so much. Oh, my sincere pleasure. Thank you for coming on the program to discuss the situation with us.

And, and, and I know that, you know, you'll be continuing to cover this and as information comes forward, you'll you'll you'll let us know and at and at the appropriate time, you'll you'll let us know the name that that you've been given when I assume more than likely when when you can make sure that you've got full collaboration on it and and and you don't don't don't get yourself into a very dangerous situation, which is why folks we are not presenting Susan's picture or likeness on the screen this morning. Right? That's me. I'm so big in me.

I was trying to find somebody that looked, you know, intimidating and I think Rambo looks pretty intimidating. I love it. Yeah, absolutely.

Absolutely. My sincere pleasure. Susan, thanks again for being on the program today. I greatly appreciate it.

Thank you so much. It's been wonderful. All right, folks, we're going to take our break. Neil Bailey is with us on the other side, the real life of the Ukrainians coming up right after this brief break. I'm your host, Pastor Greg.

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Thanks so much for being with us. And I'm very excited to have my next guest on the program. He is a world traveler. He is a rider. He is a motorcycle rider and has ridden his motorcycle literally around the world.

I think if it were possible, he would more than likely ride on water. But you know, we haven't quite... Well, they have those jets, right? They have the jets now. You can get jet skis. Yeah, yeah, right. Yeah. Well, no, I was even thinking about more like a Jetsons kind of a thing, you know, where like the hovermobiles, right? You know, you can kind of get like a hover bike, you know, and go cruising.

That might be kind of fun. Wow. You know what else I'm thinking of, Neil, is did you ever see the movie The Fastest Indian? Oh, I did many times. I have too.

Is that not an incredible film? I think it's his beautiful, indomitable spirit that he just doesn't understand why anything should get in the way of his dream, because it's not a hurtful dream. It's his dream. And I just love the way that by this quiet insistence that he must go fast.

He must go and make this record. Everybody gets drawn along to helping him. And everybody gets to feel better because they know him. I think it's a beautiful movie. It's not just a motorcycle movie.

It's a movie of the human spirit and adventure. Yeah, no, I think Anthony Hopkins did a fantastic job in that movie. He really cemented why he is just such a consummate professional. Yeah, he nailed the character, didn't he?

Bert Monroe. Yeah, yeah, really just quite, quite, quite an incredible story. Quite an incredible story. Well, I mean, if anyone's listening to looking for a really good movie, I mean, it is such an inspirational movie.

Yeah, no, it is. It's nice. And it's just everything about it that's great about the human spirit. Yeah, well, and what was cool was is that he was able to go back a couple of times, you know, after after that first run.

And he became, he became kind of legendary to those folks. Well, I think what's interesting for me is I actually have a land speed record on a motorcycle of over 200 miles an hour. Okay. So I've been over 200 miles an hour on a modern motorcycle. And it's scary enough on something modern with, you know, alloy wheels and modern suspension and safety wire.

And yeah, you migrate tires. So to go 200 miles an hour on that old motorcycle to me is just absolutely bonkers. Yeah, yeah. Well, well, you know, I don't think I would do 200 miles an hour on a motorcycle. Of course, now.

Yeah, now probably not at all. I was in a pretty massive car accident six years ago. And I, I broke 34 bones.

Oh, no, diving from the passenger seat to the driver's seat to save my daughter's life. And died four times and all that but but I've I've gone right at 200 miles an hour in an automobile before. And it's fast.

Yeah, it is. Well, and interestingly enough, when you're on the Autobahn there in in Italy, and you're and you're and you're doing that 200 miles an hour, you're you're actually need to be over in the slow lane. Because the Lamborghinis and the Ferraris are just flying by you and you're going Oh, I was I was in I was in Germany a few years ago on a motorcycle story with some with these rockstar guys and we were on these big BMWs and they're probably topped out at about 160 maybe 165 miles an hour and we kept getting flash to move over too slow. It's like, we want to go by you know, it's crazy. Yeah, pretty nuts.

Pretty nuts. So you took one of your motorcycle journeys recently to the Ukraine? Yeah, so a brief bit of history. You know, I grew up in southern England, and, you know, a really, really big component of our life growing up was, you know, fundraising for various projects. And obviously, big topic of the need when we were kids growing up was Ethiopia, which is now Eritrea, a lot of drought, a lot of starvation, and we had a TV shows are always helping us. So we grew up very much with that philanthropic mindset. And then when I was 18, I went to a children's home outside London, abandoned kids. And I volunteered there for a year as a houseparent, just you know, helping and working. So I got sort of exposed to the trauma, I think that, you know, abandoned children can be exposed to. And then as my journalism, motorcycle journalism career took over, I got into television and started doing a travel show with a very well known American celebrity. Are we still here?

Oh, yeah, we're good. I got my computer was doing something. And anyway, so about the same time, you know, but at the same time, I started my foundation. I had met a crazy Canadian priest in Peru back in 1995, riding a motorcycle, he used to ride around Peru from place to place, I learned that he'd passed away. And with his sister, I formed my charity, which was to support the orphans that he'd left behind. And then one day, I was sitting there thinking I was doing the fundraising for the charity, I was doing this motorcycle television show, and they neither of them were quite doing it for me, if that makes sense.

So I combine them together to come up with this idea of why don't we ride motorcycles to raise money for abandoned children around the world. And that led to a big TV show that eventually led me to working in the Middle East, and where I started meeting and interviewing conflict journalists. So when the war broke out in Ukraine, I was contacted by a gentleman that I'd interviewed at the exposure international photography festival that year, struggling inside Ukraine with a lot of different issues, you know, his wife had just given birth to twins, they're killing journalists, it's freezing cold, there's 30 mile lines of refugees, he's driving this crappy old motorcycle, it doesn't look good breakdown. And more importantly, his life is under a lot of threat, because the Ukrainians at that point are really on tender hooks.

So every time he got to a military checkpoint, they would take the memory cards out of his camera, they would go all through his press credentials passes, I mean, he literally would get detained, and not knowing what that being detained would lead to. And you can't blame the Ukrainian military at that point, they don't know who he is, they've got to verify who he is. Well, because, yeah, I have a pastor friend who was in one of those small villages.

And they had somebody that got not their village, but the next one over, they had somebody that got by, and then turned around and went back, killed the village priest, and murdered about a dozen members of their community. Right. So you can. So anyway, all of these things are going on. And suddenly, the phone line goes dead. And I didn't hear from him for about three days, which was a very stressful few days. So when he bought back up in Poland, I said, Look, why don't I get some motorcycles. And let's go back in because I've been seeing these women and children being injured. And for me, they just something went off like I just I didn't know what I could do. But I just said, I've got to do something.

Okay. And that's the most like a journalist with a connection to BMW, I was able to get motorcycles, get some gear, I have a 501 c three foundation, I've been fundraising, as I mentioned, when I started, well, we know for 15 years, so I just reached out through social media, hey, guys, we're going to Ukraine, we've got to do something to help. And one of the things that Kieran had done, it was, I was when he went in with me, it was his third trip, his second trip into Ukraine, a big newspaper had hired him to photograph a little girl called Sophia, and she had taken shrapnel through the brain and had to be evacuated out to Holland.

And I the newspaper wanted to do a feature on her. So he got this connection to the children's hospital in western Ukraine in the city of Lviv. And so my thought process was, let's, let's visit the children's hospital, because we've always been raising money for abandoned children.

And that's where the bulk of our donation should go. Now, that wasn't super easy. I had to get Ukrainian military authority, I had to get international press passes, bulletproof vests, gear, sure. And we had to work with a team inside Ukraine, who would get us the access into the hospital. So during the three weeks we were there, we rode around and at the very end of our ride, we got the access and we went into the children's hospital. And we did a photographic feature by the young boy Leo, he was a refugee, he wasn't physically damaged by bombs and bullets, but he was psychologically damaged, he couldn't walk, okay. And she has arrived and he was just like, like, he had been a very athletic soccer captain.

And now he's sort of in a wheelchair. And so that was kind of my focus. And then my second focus was really, maybe drawing some light on these journalists, like, if we don't have journalists inside Ukraine, we don't know what's happening, right.

And they have families, and they have wives, and they have children, and they have feelings, and they get afraid and things happen. So that was kind of my whole motivation for going in. And he actually wrote in in July and spent three weeks and wrote about 3000 miles around Ukraine covering now this is a so a so a year ago, a year ago. Yes, yes, it was a year. Okay. Okay.

So, um, talk to me about some of the things you would what did you want now? You've published this, Neil, I apologize. Yeah, multiple publications. I mean, I've all mostly inside the motorcycle space. Okay. You know, sort of framed out about riding a motorcycle. But Kieran Ridley, my my partner, he was already a world award winning photographer.

And his most recent work for Ukraine had been the riots, the pro democracy riots in Hong Kong. Okay. And so we went in with a goal to try and cover some of the things that maybe you weren't seeing on television. So just to kind of give you a list of that, that we went into a Soviet era coal mine, and we went 1500 feet under the earth to go and photograph and interview miners. And you might say, Well, why would you interview miners? Well, somebody has to keep bringing the coal out, someone has to keep making power, someone has to get the lights on. Yeah. And these miners and these communities, they're very, sort of more reminiscent to me of villages of England, like the ladies do the little buttons that you take before you go down.

And then there's other ladies that have this little box, and they send the elevator down. And it's, you know, young men work there all the way through to grandfathers is the whole community lives and runs and works the mine and everything around it is, you know, it's a very, very village or town. Close knit, very close knit. Very close knit, I think.

And of course, they're struggling because their numbers are down because a lot of soldiers at the front line, they're dealing with a lot of deaths already by the time we went there. So there's a lot of tragedy inside of the communities, they lose people, trauma, and I don't think it's a story that maybe you might immediately think about the war, but we felt it was a very relevant story. Did you have did you have a sense?

I apologize. Did you have a sense as you were visiting with them? I've talked with again, my friend who's a pastor there who was born in Russia. He and I connected because he works with orphans.

That's what he does. He works with orphans in and he had an orphanage, thriving orphanage in Russia, and then an orphanage in Ukraine. And they just finished another one of their, they do a camp for orphans every July.

And they they just they just finished their big camp. But, but, you know, he was like, you know, we're, we're supportive of our right to fight to protect our nation. From, you know, from this invasion, we we we don't want to fall back under Putin, we don't want to fall back under Russian control. And in fact, it would be horrendous for them if they did well, the Russians actually killed all of those orphan children that he had had in Russia. Yeah, yeah. When the war started, they killed they just killed them all.

Yeah, I mean, they don't discriminate between women, children, old people, soldiers, that that I think is the hardest thing is either indiscriminately targeting women and children. And I think that was, you know, when I first saw that in the early part of the war, that's why I had to go I mean, obviously, there's a lot of trustees around the world, and I haven't leapt in and tried to help us support any others. Maybe my personal collection, my personal connection to the journalists is what led me in there. But maybe that's how our life works.

If you know, a lot of times, it's not until we get personally connected with something that we feel moved to act. Yes. So yeah, I think that it's just horrendous. And, you know, our main fixer in live is super intelligent guy, you know, he really gives a lot of insight into Soviet mentality, you know, Ukraine getting the independence in 1991. Right. And, you know, what is going on with the people of Ukraine who are under occupation or torture, rape, murder, and then people who are not being occupied, obviously, any minute they could get bombed, and they are being bombed. Well, and what just happened to Elviv. Elviv just got bombed.

Yes. And my friend who met all was very close. And he said, he just said it was horrible.

He said he had the missiles coming in the house was shaking. And this is what they live with every day. So that was our decision to basically do the majority of fundraising for the kids. So okay, one of the one of the stories that really, it was very, very tragic, very poignant, but really encouraging in some ways was we went to a 16th century monastery in L'viv region, you might think, well, okay, that's a that's a kind of a different story. And it was the most beautiful, peaceful place. And the Sudai monks had taken it back over in 1991. The Russians or the Soviets had turned it into a mental asylum and stripped it of all its religious artifacts and the Ukrainians is hidden stuff.

So now wait a minute, I thought that Putin was the great Christian Crusader and and the Russians were, you know, God's appointed saviors of the world. All right, Neil, are you telling me that there's a different story? Are you telling me? What's that about? I don't understand.

Yeah, I think there's a lot of people don't want to hear what's really happening. But so what was really what was really beautiful about it was Father McCarry, he's the abbot, I guess the head monk there. And he spent the afternoon with us.

And what's interesting is, is he's actually the Ukrainian benchpress champion in his division. Take is we got him to take his cassock off and show us his guns at the end. And it was just really beautiful. And so he was about 100 refugees there from car keys. And so I spent some time with an English translator, learning about what they'd been through. And of course, the only male that was there was a guy called Paul, and he was disabled, the rest were women and children, because the men are at the front line.

Yeah. And I just had the most. I, I wrote these five pieces, fear, shock, joy, love and anger. And it was my moments like the points. And my moment of anger came in the monastery where there was a little girl called Mira Slava. And we came out and it was some sun was going down. And you're in this beautiful monastery and it's so peaceful.

And the gardens and the lawns and the monks. I mean, you just got this. Imagine yourself whole idea about tranquility, peace, spirituality, whatever your beliefs are about this world or God or anything. Yeah, here it is.

Right. And this little girl called Mira Slava comes running across the grass to the father McCarry, and she jumps up into his arms. And there's this beautiful paternal embrace with this little girl. And you can just see her looking at her with this love in her eyes, you know, and she turned to me and I, you know, I have my long lens out my camera, and I'd never seen such joy and emotion and expressionist little girl's face.

I'm taking these pictures. And suddenly I hear this voice in my head from our friend O'Mell back at he's our fixer back in Lviv. And he said to me, he says, whatever you do, don't post pictures on social media of the kids at the monastery because the Russians could geolocate them and send bombs.

Oh, my God, you want to talk about this? Right, right, right. I mean, right. You can't protect against it.

There's no stealing itself or preparing for it or it's not like you're going to go get a jab at the doctors and you get ready. I mean, it just hit me. I mean, I just I was slumped up against my motorcycle.

I mean, I was just absolutely like someone to take me to the baseball bat. This anger came over me that these beautiful children could just be gone. So, yeah, hopefully in my writing and this that story is actually going in a big magazine shortly.

I just have to do some more work on that series. Right. I just hope that it reaches people that are giving all these opinions about the war. Like, let's just get to the humanity of this. Right. We all have children. We have families. We have friends. I mean, you know.

Yeah. And one of the most beautiful parts about that experience because there was some beautiful parts about it back in Lviv after I'd sort of got over my big angry moment, my friend of Mills showed me a documentary he was working on. And prior to the war breaking out, he was working on a recreation documentary that the Sudites had hidden three Jewish boys during the Holocaust. And each of those three boys that go on had gone on to make a significant difference in the world. One of them won a Nobel Peace Prize. One became a minister in Poland. They did really significant things in life.

And suddenly I was watching this beautiful documentary miniseries that he'd been working on. And this whole vision came to me that when this war is over, we need to go back and find those three little girls, Miroslava and the two other girls and finish that documentary because here's the Sudite monks again, right, 80 years later, saving these children from these forces of evil the way that the Sudites did during the Second World War. So they were very emotional experiences. And I think not to be disrespectful, and I understand, but when you see commentators or you see people reporting on the war, they're not really telling you about their personal feelings. And I know they're going through it. They're just saying, this blew up, that got invaded, which is fine.

That's how news works. But I think we were just able to come at it in a little bit of a different way to translate maybe our feelings, which maybe it's selfish or egotistical, that we should talk about how we felt when people are suffering, but, or maybe it's just a different, a little bit of an opportunity. But I think that what you're giving is, is you're giving a glimpse of it because it's yes, it's your, but it's your interpretation of their feelings. It's not it's not really your I mean, you it's not it's it's your interpretation of how Maricel is being impacted by the situation.

It's it's young. Okay, so she's reflecting emotions and you're reporting sharing those feelings. It's, it's, it's the father there, who is providing these, these, you know, sudai monks that are providing this, you know, you've described it now, quite eloquently. And I can tell you from my trip to heaven that that that that was very much that was heaven that was the just I even I even said in my my my notes about it, you know, that moment prior to getting angry, that could have been the moment that this weary old traveler hangs his boots up on. I mean, this was perfection.

The garden, the light, the kids, they're playing, I mean, you don't get those, you know, perfect moments very often. And suddenly, it just came in, well, like a missile explosion, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, and and so you are relaying to, and I think, you know, trying to put into context, you know, that I know, I was being a little satirical, you know, relative to, you know, what people are saying about, you know, Putin and about the Russians and about their being the, you know, new, the new Christian Crusaders and all this stuff. Sadly, great, sadly, great, does the media exists to make money, and they need clickbait, they need scandal, they need, we've all gotten into a world where, you know, every day around as people are doing incredibly good, noble and honorable things, but what gets into the news is the rubbish.

Yeah, I want the garbage. Everybody says we don't want it, but we're we're attracted to the story of a passionate monk and his people caring for refugees. How is that? That isn't news to anybody, because nothing's, there's no one. There's, there's no, there's no one there. Because it's not what people are.

Sadly, it's not what people are interested in. Yeah, yeah, there's, there's, there's no blood there. So in another another story that we did was we went to an equine therapy center. And there were young Russian and Ukrainian soldiers who had all recently lost limbs. So these boys were some of them four to six weeks off the front line, missing legs, missing arms, gay and political Sasha, who's actually Russian and lives here.

Her husband has been fighting against Russia since 2014 in Donbass. And he had terribly bad PTSD and injuries. And she realized when she put him on a horse, because she's a horse trainer, that he really calmed down. And it was a great experience for him. And even some of the horses at the center are refugees, they are damaged, they had to evacuate them from war zones, some of them has travel wounds, they were in shock.

But when they were the soldiers, they're fine. And there was a young man called Daniel who I'll visit again this year, he was about a month or six weeks away from losing his leg. And I had some video of him getting onto the horse and falling off. And if you watch him in the video and see the sweat and the effort and the energy he needed to get onto that horse, you realize what a fighter he is, because he's not long from surgery and losing a limb and being blown up. And then later in the day, I've got this photograph of him riding a horse alone coming back from the country. And he's a reformed, he's sitting upright.

He's calm, he's at peace. It's like you don't even recognize night and day, just night and day. Yeah. And, you know, luckily, I was able to communicate with a friend of mine, Heidi Levine, who works for the Washington Post, I think it's one of the big newspapers here. And she actually went in and they did a story about those guys. So at least we felt like we got them some good exposure. But yeah, this was a new, amazing experience to see this transformation and what people are doing.

And again, not a not a technical story that you might expect from the war. We're gonna run, we're gonna run out of time here, Neil. Give me what's your website?

How do people contact you? If you just Neil Bailey rides on Instagram or Facebook, and I've got my weird spelling or the foundation is wellspring-outreach.org. Okay, I wondered when I looked it up, I wondered if that was your thing.

It kind of looked like maybe that might be. So that's cool. And is that one of your orphans on your shoulders there? Yeah, yeah, I've been dealing with these kids for about 15 years. So that's my goal in life. And they say it's easy for me, right?

I don't need anything else. I just need to be my kids are up and gone on, you know, I live a simple life. And my goal is just to try and help these kids. So that's why I'm going back. I'm going back to shed attention and light on these injured children. Awesome. And just do what we can.

So super appreciate you having me on and Oh, yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Wellspring-outreach.org.

Wellspring-outreach.org. But you can if you just type in Neil, N-E-A-L-E, Bailey, B-A-Y-L-Y. I'm like Tigger. I'm the only one. Absolutely. I love it.

I love it very much. I also talked to Ken. And he said, if I can while I'm in Ukraine, I'll maybe we can communicate.

We can. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. I've done that with with Pastor Vitaly from he's just outside of Kyiv.

Yeah. So and if you want me to visit with him and do any media with him, there's anything I can do to help him. Just forward me. I will do it. You know what we'll do.

I've got your email information, I believe. So yes, I will connect you guys because that would be fantastic. I know that that would be blessing to them as far as the orphans that they're working with there in the Ukraine.

That would be huge. I mean, it doesn't I can't do I mean, we can just do what we can. Right.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. We'll just just make the connection like he figures out what the what the rest of the deal is. I greatly appreciate it. I'm going to have to stay with him for just a minute, folks. I got it. I got to take the break. I'll be back on the other side. Bill Federer will be on air with me next. Please don't go anywhere. I'm your host, Pastor Gregor. Listen to Children Generation Radio.