CGR TUESDAY 071823 Steve Cleary iBible Jason Sheppard Wimkin

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And now Chosen Generation where no topic is off limits and everything is filtered through biblical glasses. And now here's your host Pastor Greg. Thank you. Thank you. And good morning and welcome to the program. Great to have you with me. Thanks so much for being here.

I know you have a choice of where you can listen each and every day and I thank you for keeping it tuned here to Chosen Generation Radio. Let's see, coming up on the program today, next hour, Ed Brodow will be with us. He's a conservative political commentator, negotiation expert, and bestselling author of 10 books, including his latest, The War on Whites. And we'll be talking about that and how they're using race to divide us. Also coming up, Jason Shepard, founder of Wimken Social Media.

He's an entrepreneur and a free speech advocate. And hopefully, we'll be able to get Mr. Cleary on the program here in just a minute. Zoom has decided to do some kind of strangeness.

And so I'm hoping that it's going to allow him to be able to jump in. All I can think to do. All right, let me close that. Try to reopen Zoom. And all it gives me is an option to join. Why?

Why did it do that? Hmm. Okay.

It appears that I'm going to have to create a new link for Mr. Cleary. If I can make my fingers work. And my eye. Hang on one second, folks.

My apologies. It is not letting him in. That's my guess, is that it's not letting him in. Because Zoom arbitrarily decides what it's going to do.

Even when you update and you do everything, it still does that. So that's just great. All right.

Copy invitation. Let's see. Okay, guys. . . . . . Okay, all right, folks, here we go.

Give this a listen and I'll be right back. Look, I am for marriage between a man and a woman. I am for life from conception. I am for following the Bible and I believe that our founders started this nation on biblical principles.

I am in support of our military and believe that America should play a role in world security. I believe our Constitution was intended for a moral people and that the Bible contains the only true moral code. I believe we are all born sinners and that God in His grace and mercy sent His Son Jesus Christ to die for our sins and that if we will confess our sins, He is just and righteous to forgive us our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness. I believe salvation is not just accomplished in a little prayer but that it is found in how that transformation is lived out. Jesus is to be the Lord of our lives and we should follow biblical precepts. This is not legalism or works but a life lived out in love and honor towards the one who died for my sins.

Faith without works is dead and is no faith at all. I believe that we will fall and that we need to have a repentant heart and that God will ultimately bring us into perfect action through Jesus Christ, spirit man perfected and soulish man in progress. I believe that we are not to live in guilt and shame when we fall but we repent and get up and move closer to Jesus. I believe that if our nation will repent and turn from wickedness that God will heal our land.

I believe that as a Christian I must occupy until He comes and that to call evil wicked and to warn about those evil acts is a part of the mandated Christianity. That to love also means to be willing to take the risk necessary to confront a friend with the truth in hopes that their heart will be turned because their life matters even if it means in that moment they will possibly hate me. It means that I must risk scorn to stand for truth and that I can never sit silently by while evil attempts to conquer the world. God is my everything and Jesus is the love of my life. That does not make me weak but strong, not silent but bold and not fearful but courageous. Therefore if you are my friend while we may not fully agree know that I share what I share because I care.

If you strongly disagree with these beliefs they are not debatable for me and you can if you choose unfriend me. I do not say this in anger but in love. I wish for you eyes to see and ears to hear that Jesus Christ is the only way to salvation and that God, not man, gets to decide what is truth, life and the way.

God bless you. At the end of the day when I stand before my God I do not want him to ask me what did you do with the world that I sent my son to die for and redeem? How did you fight the good fight to share the good news and keep evil in check?

How did you shine your light and be a beacon of truth in the darkness? Did you shrink back in fear when they demanded you change my message? Did you call evil good and good evil? Did you forsake my love for that of another, lying with the adulterer and setting up a new idol in your life? Have you defiled yourself through compromise and tolerance of that which I call an abomination? Have you innocent blood on your hands for the children murdered on your watch and the young ones perverted in their way by evil men seeking their own comfort and reviling me?

No. At the end of the day I want him to simply say the evidence is in. Well done, thou good and faithful servant. I love my God and I love his creation and I will go to my grave telling the world that evil is evil and only God is good and Jesus came to save the world.

That no matter the evil in the world I will never give up and in spite of the hate I will love in truth. God bless you all and may love remove the veil so you all might enter into his rest. And welcome back to Children's Generation Radio where no topic is off limits and everything filtered through biblical glasses and my apologies for the technical issues that we had.

Zoom decided to have a mind of its own. Very interesting but not surprising I suppose and one of the reasons why my next guest has created something to share the gospel digitally because that's where a lot of folks are getting their information, reels, TikToks, things of that nature. I want to welcome Steve Cleary to the program. Steve, welcome. Good to have you. Good morning, Pastor Craig. I'm very happy to be here. Well I apologize that we're going to be a little bit short on our time together but let's make the most of it that we possibly can.

Let's talk about iBible. What was it, you were in the healthcare field at one point in IT. No, I wasn't. I've been in mission and development work most of my life. I've done a lot of work in countries where Christians are persecuted and traveled to about 50 countries, developed projects with the voice of the martyrs and really that was my passion. I was discipled by Pastor Richard Wallenbrandt who wrote the book Torture for Christ and that's what I thought I would do. That's what I thought I'd do the rest of my life until this vision for a visual Bible came about and kind of took me by storm. So when I was reading about it, it talks about that it is the Bible but it's not verse by verse. Talk to me about that concept and how that came about and how do you maintain the integrity, if you will, of the message? Well first of all, thank you for asking that. I love that question and I know we're short on time.

I'll try to go fast. You know when you look at traditional Bible translation, it's word for word translation. Obviously that's the goal. Then you have translations that are more paraphrased and written in modern or very, very modern English and then you have Bible stories. We create stories. So you think of Veggie Tales, Superbook, even The Chosen, events based on the Bible. What we do is a biblical narrative and what makes it different is that our script is constrained to scripture. So we do not use any word in our script that's not supported within that verse. So while it's not word for word, it is using scripture to create the narrative, to create the story, the one story of scripture. It's in chronological order. We're not a paraphrase, so we're not restating as much as we're kind of reshuffling to put it in chronological order and to put it in story form.

But the most important part is that you cannot find an adjective, an adverb, a noun. You cannot find any of this in our scripts that are not supported within scripture. So every single line of our script has the scripture or scriptures from which it was taken from. It goes through very, very rigorous review processes, including we have a Hebrew working in the Old Testament right now. We have a Hebrew theologian who does a check for us to make sure theologically we didn't change anything, does an excellent job.

He's edited many Bible translations. And so that's really at the heart of it is if you think you're still reading the Bible, but you're reading it in narrative form. And so you're reading it in a story form. And it's really the first of its kind, but we feel it still maintains the power of the word of God. And so we're not a Bible story, you know, we're not like a modern retelling.

We are scriptural. And if you if you actually look at how New Testament characters quoted the Old Testament, they did the same thing. They quoted it in narrative.

So they helped true, but they didn't necessarily quote word for word. Now you've got 10 books so far. Is that correct?

Is that correct? We got probably 15 or 16 episodes. So the entire production will be 280 episodes, it'll be about 30 hours of content. Each episode is is five to seven minutes long. And we wanted that length, you know, that's kind of the generation, right, a YouTube video five to seven minutes devotional chance to talk about it after. And so the episodes are broken into five to seven minute episodes, we're going to be releasing 47 of these episodes, Easter of next year. So the next nine to 10 months, we're going to be releasing 47 episodes. It'll include all of Genesis and the beginning of the life of Christ. Again, we will do harmonize gospel because we're story based and we're chronological order.

What separates? Okay, go ahead. I'm sorry. No, I was gonna say we're probably and and you probably read something that we had 10 episodes done. And that's, that's correct. And we have a lot of episodes in production.

So we kind of have the equivalent of about 1617 episodes completed. Yeah, it was somewhere on let me see. It was somewhere on the site when I was looking at at. Yes, different information and it had a listing of the of the of the 10. You know, creation and Job and then Job's restoration and you know, and that and that kind of thing kind of broken down into 10 chapters. What separates this Steve from say, like, Mackey's Bible project? First of all, we love the Bible project.

Our ministry has personally supported it and they do an amazing job. The biggest difference is theirs explains the Bible. So that those presentations are really for someone that is reading the Bible has access to the Bible can read, you know, the Bible is in their language, we we present the Bible. So if you think on a scale, somebody may watch something like the Jesus film, or they may have and they may have an experience at church, they give their life to Christ, we come next. So we're a presentation of the Bible, create a foundation of faith, begin that discipleship process.

After you're reading the Bible, and like I said, assuming you can and you can have access to it, which billions of people do not, then the Bible project helps you helps explain how the Bible is laid out and presents the books of the Bible. So we love their project. We think it's a we think it's great. It was designed initially for like college students who who are studying Scripture.

And so definitely, definitely a great project. They started a little bit a little bit ahead of us. We're a little bit higher end animation. And we're extremely missional, extremely reaching, you know, either, even even young people or adults in America that are not going to read their Bible anymore. You know, if you've read things, state of the Bible reports, it's actually getting pretty dismal. The biblical illiteracy is is massive, massive, even amongst people that are sitting in church pews, by the way, while the report on America is down 16%. Yeah, Bible engagement. So we've seen Bible engagement, potentially, we, we believe the Bible can increase. And if you think about it, you mentioned at the beginning of your broadcast technology, technology can be, you know, sometimes challenging, but technology can be used to further the gospel.

Sure. People say, well, maybe they don't jump on the new technology. But if you have a printed book, then you can thank, you know, a man named Johannes Gutenberg for creating the movable type press, right?

Right. That was technology. What if Christians back then said, No, we don't want that technology. We don't want books.

Well, that would be the equivalent today of us not embracing digital technology to share the Word of God. And the cool part is that we can add audio and we can add visuals. You know, the world learns, everybody knows the people learn by seeing first, I mean, you know, a pastor was telling me even Satan knows that so he wants you to watch pornography, he wants you to, he wants you to see violence, he wants you to see things because it makes, you know, your brains like a camera, it's continually taking your eyes continually taking pictures and, and it's hard to forget those.

We all think of things we've seen visually, we will never forget. And then the word or learns by audio, you know, section, shown by third. So that's how, but unfortunately, missions today focuses on print first audio second and visual third.

So we try to flip that we try to say what if we focused on visual first, then audio then print. Now what about places like and and I believe in in advancing the gospel through technology. In fact, that that's how I share my testimony of the accident that I was in in 2017 and dying four times and, and all of that and I've been sharing that since 2019 over Skype in Punjab, India, where we've planted 750 churches in 41 freshwater wells and put in created for sewing schools for widows, and it's all been done digitally over Skype. We do a service there every single week in an outlying area. What about places like that, where the people don't necessarily have access to it to, say a cell phone or a technology like that?

How do we help someone in that arena? I'm just I'm just I don't know if you guys have I'm sure you've thought about that because here you are creating a product to deliver in such a manner. And obviously, in some of these third world countries, they don't have the technologies that we have in America that they have in China that that a lot of these other places are going to have.

Right. So if somebody if somebody doesn't have, let's say no internet, and let's say no electricity, then we start with a solar powered iPad. And so we're developing that and then when they connect online, they can update but we preload the content on there. So a solar powered iPad is is very economical, can be put in a in a village, and it can serve 10 to 12 people at a time.

And so you think of a of a mass Jesus film showing which we love, but generally, you have one or two of those a year, we want people to have every week to be experiencing content and talking about it, you know, we don't go to church a year, right. And so and so we're putting solar powered, we will be putting solar powered iPads, we have an engineer working on it now, we've almost crossed all the T's crossed all the T's dotted all the I's to make it possible, we'll be testing it probably in Papua New Guinea. Once you have electricity, you go to a projection system. So if you have electricity, most churches in the world actually have a projector.

And it's not that hard to bring them one. We also make a solar powered projector to serve about 100 people to 150 people. But there are Jesus film as backpacks of solar powered and electrical projectors, then we go to micro SD cards.

So if they have a phone, but not internet, they can put a micro SD card in their phone, and they can share it, they can Bluetooth it to they can Bluetooth it to one another, or they can take the micro SD card out and just pass it around. Then we go to internet based. So really, there's no there's nobody with today's technology, there's nobody who we cannot present a video presentation.

Except for somebody that is sight impaired, right and cannot see the presentation. We can reach anybody in the world now with visual content. That's where we're at. And these phones, 5 billion phones in the world today. Yeah. Yeah. And looking at a while partners are in Ethiopia, they're at a church that there is not even a road that leads to the church.

They all walk across fields. And and my friend, Mark asked the pastor, he said, How many people here have a phone? He's thinking maybe there's three phones in the church, four phones in the church pastor said the average family has three phones. Wow. And this is a church that's a village typical village church, there isn't even a road to the church, but they have three phones per family. Yeah.

Yeah. And this is in what country? This is in what country, Steve? Ethiopia. Ethiopia. Okay. Okay.

Very cool. Yeah, in it where I'm at in Punjab, what we need it, we need to talk it where I'm at in Punjab, because see, they're lower caste. And there and everybody wants to say there's not a caste system, but but there is a caste system. And and and they try to make sure that the lower caste people don't have access to anything. Because that's how they keep them oppressed. They keep them enslaved by doing it, they don't like the fact that we're bringing them freshwater wells, because that that now that gives them good health. And they don't want them to have good health, because good health means that they can be more productive and their communities can be thriving. And and that is contrary to their to their caste system.

So but no, I love this. So before we, how do folks contact and how or what kind of help? What do you need right now? From my audience? How can they help you? Well, they can reach us at i.bible. So the website, it's not.com.

It's i.bible. Or you can look us up on Google, you can look up iBible, you will find us. Certainly what we see coming is more and more people that are willing to donate a small amount just to be involved. We're going to have hundreds of projects people can sponsor.

Like I'd love to pass. I'd love to partner with you Pastor Greg and look at what we can do in the villages of India and absolutely have campaigns in India, I'd love to add yours. We're already translating into minority languages. So the exciting thing is, is it's not just Hey, you know, we have this endless thing and we need so much money to survive.

We obviously need money for production. But we're excited that people are going to be able to sponsor the Word of God for Bible engagements. Amen. And it's amazing what we can do. I mean, we deliver something overseas, you're going to have 1000s of Bible engagements, you're going to have people coming to Christ, you're going to have people understanding God's Word.

You know, for me, if I want to invest in something, I mean, you think about it, what do you want your children and grandchildren to do? You want them to know the Word of God? Amen. If they don't know the Word of God, how are they going to stand up to wokeism and all the attacks of Satan in our country and in the world today? Well, and the misrepresentations, quite frankly, of the Word of God and so many of the quote unquote denominations today as well.

I mean, the church, by and large, because of the illiteracy of the people and because of whatever other delusion there is, many have bought into wokeism and bought the lies. We've called evil good and good evil. And I'm so glad to see that we're pushing back against that in an arena where it's so needed. Amen. So, it's the Word of God and prayer, right? And then being willing to be outspoken ends.

We need those. But if our kids are not, are not in the Bible and are in God's Word, and it's not leading them into a relationship with their Creator and Jesus, if it's not leading them to pray, I'm going to make a statement that we've lost the battle. So the battle begins, I believe the battle begins in the Word of God and the hearts. There's power in the Word of God.

And it needs to be implanted and our children, grandchildren need to be engaged. And that's our passion. 100%.

100%. Steve, thank you so much for being with me. I'm sorry that we were cut a little bit short today. We will get with your publicist and we'll get you back on the program again.

This is a really important topic. And I will reach out to you and we'll make contact. Hang tight for just a second. Folks, we got to take a break. I've got another guest. The Operation Shepherd is coming on next with us.

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Sounds great. Thank you. Uh-huh. This is Chosen Generation Radio, where no topic is off limits and everything filtered through biblical glasses. So what do you do when you see that the industry that you're in is, well, hiding the truth?

And what do you do when you see that big tech is censoring the truth, and you have the skill set to do something about it? Well, you do what my next guest did, and that is you create, well, you create options. And that is exactly what my next guest, Jason Shepherd, has done with Wimken and several other products that we'll talk about here. I want to welcome Jason to the program. Jason, good to have you. Thanks for being here.

Thank you so much for having me, Pastor. I appreciate it. And it sounds like we have several things in common.

Yeah, a little off-air situation there. We both had a terrible accident, and both at least had to be brought back. So that's pretty interesting.

I did not know that. So that's definitely a great starting point. But yeah, we have a lot in common. We obviously love God, and we, I mean, I believe at this point in time, because all we put up with, Pastor, I wouldn't be doing this for any other reason other than God, because you obviously know the bend and break aspect. I've been bent every way anybody could possibly be bent here with our platforms, with the government, with big tech, and I keep pressing on every single day through His power. Well, you know what?

I think that His power is the only way that we make it through, honestly. And unfortunately, the attacks and the assaults and where they come from is, it would be nice if it was just on the outside, but it's not. It's even within our supposed camp that there's issues that arise as well. You created, Wimken is one of your social media platforms. I was noticing also in your bio that you've created Truthleak as an alternative to YouTube. And then there was another one that I read, and I apologize, I can't remember the name right this second. That's okay.

Go ahead. We actually have a new TikTok alternative that has parental controls and is 100% data private and obviously American made and housed. It's called Reelster, like the film Reelster, and then we also have a platform that's a little bit less political because Wimken is very political. It's staunchly conservative. I'd say about 85 to 90% conservative because of all the conservatives that have been kicked off of social media. So we have another platform that's actually, it's basically the same interface as Wimken, but it's called Friendzer.

And that's just more of where people share pictures of the kids, sports, things that are just a little more feel-good than politics are. Sure, sure, sure. Tell me about your background because you started out, you were in healthcare IT. And so you started out in an entirely different direction. Share with my audience a little bit about that background, if you don't mind. Yeah. So I was part of a medical network and a health insurance network that is the second largest in my tri-state area.

Actually, it's four states now, but in Pennsylvania, Ohio, West Virginia, and parts of New York. And so one of my positions as a business analyst, that's what it was, but it's still IT because you're setting up testing protocols and things of that nature, then also reporting to county health departments. So we were spearheaded to start a COVID project for testing.

We had 2,300 physicians at that point in time that would actually give these tests to primary care physicians. And we learned about- And those are those PTP tests or whatever they were? Yeah. Something like that. Yeah. Well, I'll get into that in a second. Okay. I'm sorry. Go ahead.

Oh, no, that's okay. These tests were completely faulty. So what happened was, first and foremost, we were noticed about this project in September of 2019. So I mean, America didn't know what COVID was yet. We had no idea what it was.

We didn't even know what was going on in China at that point in time. Supposedly. Yes. Supposedly. That's correct. Supposedly.

Yes. So that was definitely a major red flag to me. And then in addition to that, the way that I work is I give doctors, I had 85, I believe, on my Rolodex that I was actually managing. And so I would give doctors my business card to call me.

Don't worry about calling the 800 number, anything like that. Actually the hassles. And in the first probably four days, I got over six calls from six different doctors saying they refused to give these tests because they were testing for just any type of coronavirus and reporting on this positive. Now obviously, by your face, I could see that you know a little bit about this. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

And then Sue and I actually tracked this thing all the way back to March of 2019 is when it is one of the germinating points. Yes, you are exactly right. So essentially what we were doing, and I would not do this, is I was literally adding to the hysteria of giving 100% positive tests. I mean, it wasn't my fault. They weren't my tests, of course.

Right, right, right. I went to my superiors and said, hey, there's known roughly 70 coronaviruses in the human body. And most of the time, you're asymptomatic with them. So now you're testing people just to go to the doctor. And we're giving out these false reports to county health departments. And now you have the live death tracker up on TV, which is kind of funny to say live death tracker.

It's like they almost had an individual in every emergency room in the country calling into news stations or a little telewire where they're just hitting, ooh, new death, new death. Right. And that was state-based.

You know what I mean? Then it was city-based. So a lot wrong with that. So I left there and I started a website called worldmustknow.com. Now that's now defunct because that's what turned into WIMKIN. And WIMKIN stands for World Must Know Now, W-M-K-N, you just sound out those letters.

That's what WIMKIN stands for. And on World Must Know Now, we got up to around 40,000 users a day hitting the site. They were reading our articles.

We had the world's most comprehensive timeline in terms of we had about 40 or 50 entries a day for different countries, different states, things of that nature, hour by hour. And like I stated, it was getting very popular when we had more than a million hits a month on it. So we had a lot of users asking us if, hey, can we contribute?

We want to comment on these articles, we want to share our own articles. And that's when we actually put together the idea to start WIMKIN. It's something when you think about it, right? So they have this death tracker that they're putting up on the screen. But if you quoted theirs to them, they went hyperplactic.

They were like, oh, no, you're misunderstanding, you're misinterpreting, that's not what that really means. And those are all guesses, but they were catapulting their own death numbers. My mother-in-law died in December of 2020. I was told by the funeral director, now, I'm just letting you know, they will mark her as having died from COVID. There's no evidence, she didn't.

But that is what the death certificate is going to say. I had my own bout with it in 2020. I had double pneumonia, I was coughing up blood, I had the chills. I mean, I had the whole nine, but I told my doctor, I'm not going to the hospital.

I won't. I sleep in a hospital bed because of the injuries that I suffered from. I have my wheelchair, I mean, everything that I need that I would have if I was in a hospital room is in my bedroom.

So I'm not going to go. And it's funny because he told me probably about three or four months later, he said, you know, if I'd sent you to the hospital, they probably would have killed you. Yeah, as working in healthcare, I mean, I've seen that.

I was there till probably January of 2020. And conditions were just so bad. I mean, realistically, I lost an uncle to COVID is what they said, but I believe it was just pneumonia. He was a pill user for, I mean, well, not a user. He actually never abused them. He had a horrible back for about 35 years and they put him on, I guess, a low dose of probably oxycodone and things of that nature. But I just remember growing up that he was always in so much pain, he really couldn't move too well. And so I think that had something to do with it as well as he was a smoker for, you know, let's say 35 years. I don't really know that number, but... Well, they probably gave him remdesivir as well, which is... I don't know much about his actual condition, to be quite honest with you. I just know that, you know, in my family, you know, I didn't want anybody to get vaccinated. I didn't want anybody to, you know, get involved with this situation and, you know, I was pretty vocal on this. I mean, of course, we still have a good relationship, but, you know, I just, you can't wear down your body and your immune system with that type of pill use. I wish they would have got him on something else. But I mean, to be quite honest with you, he was never a pill abuser. I get it. You're abusing your body when you're taking, let's say, 60 milligrams of something every day for 35 years, you know what I mean?

And then obviously, cigarettes... I've been on pain medications because of the accident. I mean, because I, you know, I broke my left orbital, de-gloved my face, broke the base of my skull on both sides, broke my neck, broke my back, broke my right rib cage, broke both hands and both wrists, broke my pelvis, my hip, my femur, my tibia, and my fibula on my left leg. And they said, that's your good leg. And then I crushed the bottom of my right knee, the top of my right tibia, severed all the nerves, and severed the main artery. Wow.

Yeah, that is a plethora of injuries right there. It's certainly a blessing that you're still here, but I'll tell you what, you look fantastic. Thank you. My goodness. Thank you.

You really do. No, I appreciate that. All glory to God, brother. All glory to God.

No question about it. So you kind of had an organic growth process where you were trying, first and foremost, to get information out to people that was not being allowed to be shared. I know I had, Judy Mikovits was a regular guest on my program. I've had Peter McCullough on my program. I've had Dr. Syed Hader on my program. I've had Brian Artis on my program. I've had Dr. Sherry Tenpenny on my program. Yeah, Dr. Tenpenny. I've had Dr. Brian Hooker with Children's Defense Organization, which is Robert Kennedy's organization on the program.

I've had Dr. Roger Thorpe on the program, who's leading the charge of trying to address the gynecological community and what's happening with childbirth and what they're doing to babies and so forth. So I know I have been banned on YouTube, banned on LinkedIn, banned on Vimeo, banned for life still on Twitter, but that's because I called Eric Swalwell a Chinese spy whore. Look, they don't like the truth. They say the truth. That's it.

They don't like the truth. What do you know what I'm saying? So I hear, so you have this organic growth. So what has that turned into?

Because I'm actually getting ready to get signed into your Wimkin product right now. So what has that turned into? Okay. You know what? I apologize.

For some reason, even though I muted calls, they're still coming through. So I missed the last part of your question. Oh, okay.

So no. So I was saying, so now, you know, this has morphed organically and where I was going with that was, so now where are you with Wimkin and what are you seeing? What's your sense of what you're seeing? And then one other question that I'll just throw to you and let you just kind of run with that is, is, you know, we think about what happened to Parler, right? You know, Parler gets knocked off its platform, then they try to come back. Now they've been bought out. Now they're just gone.

Yeah, they are just gone. I know they were bought up, but Parler to me, I mean, we'll start there since you brought them up. We were banned from the app stores three days after Parler was, and we were also deplatformed as well. Server company also kicked us off. We didn't use AWS, but we learned from that and we didn't bow to the app stores content moderation demands. You know, essentially what we did was we moved some things, at least we got ourselves a very good conservative provider at that point in time until we got our own infrastructure to actually house us. And then we also have third party providers in about seven different countries just in case the federal government comes in because we did get two demands from the select committee after January 6th and one USDOJ subpoena.

So you know, you just never know how far they're going to take you. Is that over users or if you don't mind, or can you say, did you attend J6? Did you go to J6? No, you know, we didn't have to. To be honest, the way Wimkin is designed and we did this by trade is when you sign up, you won't even have to verify your email address. So we don't even have data on you. You don't use a phone number, so we don't have that. We don't want that information. Gotcha.

Credit cards at this point in time were not accepted on the platform. We had no information. Our messenger, we have video chat, unlimited video chat.

We could actually be doing this on Wimkin right now. We have up to 20 people video chat, but we have all these components and you know, it's essentially growing based on the fact that we fought these individuals. We fought the app stores for eight months. We didn't bow to them.

If you recall, and I had a conversation via email with Dan Bongino about this, about Parler. He was a minority investor. Everyone thought he owned it, but you know, they, they literally were, they were back in the app store in about 10 days because they were trying to, you know, they pretty much kowtow to them.

They bow down to their demands. We refuse to do that and people do realize that and then, you know, realistically we're up now when we were banned from the app stores, we were banned with about 400,000 users. Now we're up to about right around 9 million. We every single morning we actually scrub bots and everything off the platform.

We approve all new users that come on too. So we don't have a plethora like on Twitter. I used to have a 700,000 a follower of Twitter account.

Still can't get that back. And it was over VAERS data and licensed board physicians and good standing, you know, his opinions. But, you know, on Twitter though, I just signed back up and I have a whopping like 490 followers. But I have, I think I have more message requests from bots and scammers than I actually do tweets.

So we want to keep a very clean platform, but it has organically grown. We have individuals that are out there pushing for us. We have influencers, Wendy Bell who I was partners with on her app. I built her radio app and website. She streams her show to us every single day and that helped a lot.

And we have Brian Ross now streaming his show every single day. So we have some good influencers there and it is definitely growing in the right direction and for the right reasons. Well, I'm getting signed up and I guess I've got to drop a profile image. So I guess I'll be doing that here momentarily.

It could be anything. It's just so our system knows that you're not a bot. If I took that off, we would have 10,000 signups a minute.

About 990 of them would be, I'm sorry, 9,900 of those would be bots. So you know, it's people try to hurt us all the time pastor. Oh, I'm sure. I'm sure.

Yeah, no, I'm, I'm, I'm absolutely sure. Where do you, where's this going? Where do you think that, that what they're doing to us is, is headed?

You know what? That's a great question. I mean, now with artificial intelligence coming out at the forefront, um, there's so many variables to what they can do. I mean, AI is such a dangerous tool to where, you know, they can say you did something you didn't even do.

Right. You'd have to, you'd have to really, I mean, I haven't told everybody, make sure you have an alibi for everything. And that means electronically, like make sure your, your phone is, you know, tracking your location at this point in time, because you know, these people can, they can put your likeness on, on a camera.

They can put your license on the video, a photo, they can take your voice now. And it's, it's absolutely. So it just depends. I mean, I've seen what we've gone through and I don't think there's any real chance they're going to stop until we have a different administration. I mean, um, it's, it's beyond belief what we've gone through with this platform. Oh, I, I can't even imagine all the stuff that you guys have, have, have probably had to face, um, as it, as it relates to, to just trying to stay on. I, you know, I was in, I, well, I'm still involved, but I was involved in, you know, looking into data centers and, you know, and, and places to house, you know, and, and trying to find a safe place and, or build your own. I mean, years ago I was involved with a company or we did, we did protecting intellectual property.

Uh, actually went to the, to the Chao conference in 1999 in San Francisco. Uh, and, but we, you know, we're, we're meeting with like digital Island and people like that back in the day and, uh, and it's, I mean, you know, the, what, what you have to go through and the expenses and, and the challenges that are associated with that. And, and it seemed, I mean, I feel like that's where we are, where we are is, is really, uh, if we want to, you know, maintain the ability, but AI is an interesting piece. Um, pastor, I don't believe that, uh, I believe it's going to be used more for sinister ideas than good.

I don't see any other way around it. What if people are, people are kind of freaking out a little bit. I think about what's happening with the writer's strike and what's going on with Hollywood right now.

Yeah. The actors are concerned. You know, Hollywood is Hollywood is just a, oh, it's, yeah, it's, it's literally, I agree it is, but it has become that it has become that no question. Maybe it's good there that they're not making this filth anymore at this point in time since they're all shut down, but that might be one of the only good things.

I know there's some things they can do with medical and, you know, um, it's, it's got some very, very tremendous upsides, but if you can't regulate the negative side of it, it's going to get out of control. Well, the, the question becomes, and I've only got, we've got a couple, just a couple minutes, but, but you can kind of stew on this even after the program and maybe write something about it, but that is the creative aspect because everybody's thinking right now that it's, oh, it's the writers versus the studios. And the issue has to do with what they're creating. The studios are the ones that are driving the, the, the messaging.

And they only hire writers that are going to message what they want messaged. Now they've got the opportunity to say, we don't even need you anymore. We're going to use AI and we'll drive our messages using, you know, whatever that is nap chat or whatever it is, the, you know, probably chat GPT and things like that. There you go. Exactly. I mean, they'll, they'll, you know, they'll just say, Hey, we want a script that kind of looks like this and chat GPT is going to spit that script out for them. And, and, and they're going to say to the writer, we don't, we don't need you anymore, but, but what the general public, I think has to understand is, is that it's the messaging of the movie and they can do it all now between, between, between that element and then, and then CGI, they don't need humans and, and, and they've got us hooked. Oh, sure.

No, I agree. And you hit it on the head to the messaging of the movie, because if you look at the sound of freedom I still have not seen that, but I'm familiar with Tim Ballard's story, powerful. You have these individuals out there, you know, on the left and, you know, in Hollywood and at the top magazines and the top well, I won't say their top, but you know, the New York times and the Washington post and, you know, what I call liberal rags, to be quite honest with you, they advocate for cuties. That movie from Netflix in a major, major way and then they're literally getting behind this story and saying it's, everything they say is it's QAnon adjacent. And I mean, why don't you want to have something out there about a true story about someone protected children and save them from a fate that was probably worse than death?

I mean, so it shows where they are. I hope Hollywood does shut down. I really do.

I don't think there's anything that good comes from it anymore. I mean, you know, documentaries and independent filmmakers are great and let's keep it rolling in that way. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you know, and you've got, you know, Angel Studios has some good products and good projects that they're working on. There's a couple of other, you know, Christian houses. I know Kevin Sorbo is always working on, you know, some pretty decent content as well.

And these are, you know, positive, uplifting stories. Yes. And my one of our vice presidents at Wimkin is Kevin Jackson from Fox News. I know Kevin. I've met Kevin. Kevin and I've done it and done an interview before. Oh, great. Yeah. Kevin's great.

He has his he has something called the flick fest, which I'm actually developing an app for for him. So they're also they're also, you know, faith based films and, you know, motivational films there that, you know, nothing. Let's just say a moral. Amen.

Amen. We're going to run out of time here. Please hang tight for a second, but please tell Kevin that Pastor Greg said hello.

Yeah, we haven't we haven't connected for quite a while, but tell him I said hello. Wimkin w i m k i n dot com. Wimkin dot com folks, Jason Sheppard, please check this out. Get signed up, become a part of the community. And then from there, you can also explore the other platforms that we've talked about today as well. And I really encourage you we need to we need to move over into these conservative spaces so that we have the opportunity to be able to continue to communicate with one another. Thank you, Jason, for what you're doing for that. Thank you so much, Pastor. It's been a pleasure. God bless everybody that's listening and God bless yourself. Thank you, sir. All right. We're going to take a quick break. So right now is going to be with us on the other side.