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We were one of the first outlets that that brought him on to talk about several years ago his efforts and discovery and ultimately he was recognized and quoted by President Trump and also Hillary Clinton but hers wasn't quite so flattering but talking about how he identified an algorithm that showed that Google was was moving votes and and manipulating the election and manipulating the way people think in the way people see things and and he was the one that that created the algorithm to identify that and we were privileged to be able to bring him on the program to give him a platform and an opportunity to be able to talk about that so I welcome back Dr. Robert Epstein. Dr. Robert welcome good to have you. Pastor Greg it's a great pleasure to be back with you really I've missed you I've missed you. Oh thank you thank you I've missed having you I missed having you I know and I think we're gonna do probably quite a few of these conversations over the course of the next year or so as we as we as we you know get into this and and and call these people out and and I've got cameras all around my house so which is probably necessary so let's do it tell you you mentioned to me as we were coming in a national digital shield so and then you had a second thing we're gonna go straight through we're not gonna take a break we got about 20-25 minutes let's really dive into this. Okay first of all if people go to America's digital shield.com they can actually get a glimpse of what it is we are building and this is not some hypothetical thing we've been building this since last year we now have almost 9,000 field agents in all 50 states these are all registered voters and we are monitoring big tech content through their computers this is with their permission of course and we are aggregating the data 24 hours a day and we are looking for signs of bias censorship all the all the things that worry us about these tech companies and we are finding the evidence in fact we've been preserving millions more than 11 million ephemeral experiences on Google, Bing, Yahoo, YouTube, Instagram you name it we are accumulating evidence of extreme bias and manipulation on the part of these companies so if this is this is no longer hypothetical it's no longer a small project as it was when you and I talked last sure we're now building a permanent digital shield and if people want to support our efforts and learn about lots and lots of details they can go to my google research.com that's my google research.com and there's lots of links there to all the details every all the data we're collecting but you know to give you just a quick glimpse here of how bad this problem is we now based on millions of pieces of data that we've preserved not not thousands as was the case a few years ago when you and I chatted but millions of them we have now preserved a data showing that Google for example is sending highly politically biased content on a search engine which shifts shifts votes by the way shifts a lot of votes among undecided voters to everyone in the red states blue states and swing states so they're not doing what they claim to do and you know giving people the information they want they are shifting votes and opinions the way they want to because that same level of liberal bias is present in all the content they're sending to people in blue states red states and swing states let me let me real quick to clarify the website there's American digital shield is that right it's a you know I should I should actually get that one because oh okay well keeps people keep saying that but right now it's at America's America's America's digital shield calm okay and again people want to support the work and help build this shield or they want to sponsor a field agent we call these these people who help us monitor we call them field agents okay they can go to my google research calm $25 a month will get you to sponsor a field agent and of course these are people we want to hold on to for years and these are American heroes in my opinion they're allowing us to look over their shoulders look at the political content that they're seeing look at the content that's going to their children because we've expanded monitoring now to children and teens looking for indoctrination and so far we've signed up more than 1,800 children and teens all around the country and 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50 states but if we look at children and teens that proportion goes up to and I this is the truth this is the gods honest truth 96% of the content that they're recommending to children and teens is coming from liberal news sources now that's indoctrination on a massive scale now let me let me let me ask it because you mentioned that that you know that that you are that you are liberal and and and and have a liberal bend how does that how does what they're doing impact your your thought processes because what you're doing to me is is a is a more conservative type of mission if you will then then then what we have now maybe it's classical liberal maybe that maybe that is a more proper diagnosis relative to what you're doing you know what I'm saying you know that no no I understand well as I explained to Senator Ted Cruz when I when I testified before Congress a couple of years ago I don't have a conservative bone in my body the reason I'm doing what I'm doing is because I believe in the United States of America I believe in democracy I believe in the free and fair election so what I'm doing is I'm putting my love for America and for democracy ahead of my political beliefs that's what I'm doing and frankly I think all Americans should do that we should always when we have a choice we should put America first and our democracy first and our children first and that's all I'm really doing so the fact is that my liberal friends and relatives are mad mad as heck at me I've been actually cut off from mainstream media now sure and it's it's it's the conservatives now who are kind of embracing you to a degree racing that's the word thank you sure sure I was searching for a word and I now I have some some very dear conservative friends and but I'm not a conservative I you know I'm wearing a pin I don't know if you can see it I'm wearing actually wearing a pin which is from Trump's White House that was given to me by his staff because I worked very closely with his coronavirus task force back in 2020 okay so really that's that explains why I'm doing what I'm doing right so it's it's you know I just you know I just don't like the fact that that a couple of private companies have this kind of power and we know from the monitoring that we're doing that they're actually exercising this power now we're talking about real quick we're talking specifically about Google and of course their attributes consist of not only their own search engines but also consist of YouTube they also have an influence in the mail I mean that's many people use their mail system and I would imagine that some of the spam mail and some of the different you know things that get through come through their filters are specifically targeted and intentional to try to manipulate how people are thinking based on what arrives in your email box yes even worse than then than that is what is what they don't send you so the Republican National Committee sued Google last year because Google is diverts email that they don't want you to see they divert it into your spam box or they just delete it and again our monitoring system now dot is documenting this the the RNC didn't really have a way to document this carefully but because we're actually observing real content through the computers of thousands of eventually tens of thousands of registered voters in all 50 states we can see the real content that they're sending to people and when they suppress content when they divert emails when they bias news feeds or search results right or answer boxes or even answers now using AI we not only detect it we preserve it and that's the key because normally they're they're using what they call ephemeral content or ephemeral experiences to manipulate manipulate us that's things like an answer they give you to a question or a list of search results that impacts people especially people who are undecided right and then it it you click on something and then it disappears and it's gone forever and it leaves no paper trail so that's the key to how they manipulate so okay so so you so you do a search for whatever and in that search they bring things up to try to draw your attention correct and and then through that they lead you kind of down a primrose path that is designed to indoctrinate you to begin to turn your thoughts in a particular direction that's exactly right okay and if you already have strong allegiance to one point of view they don't waste their time with you and they're not even you know they they don't have much impact on you let's put it that way okay it's the people in the middle that those are the people they know exactly who they are because they have so much information about us sure and those are the people that they can push very successfully they can easily push among undecided voters people are undecided on anything really between 20 and 80 percent of those people can very easily be pushed by Google's manipulations we know this now for more than 11 years of controlled experiments that we've published in top scientific journals this is the real thing but even so and I hope people will take a look at my google research calm take a glimpse at America's digital shield calm I want to actually introduce this is an exclusive for you your first in the world I want to introduce to you another project that we have to get people thinking and talking about morals and morality and again I this is one of the reasons why I really tried so hard to track you down and get back on your show because I know that your audience is the ideal audience to learn about this new project which I think is going to be one of the biggest research projects I've ever started in my whole 45 year career and we call it the moral standards project the key link here is my morals org my morals org and it's a concept that I had back back in 2011 it's taken a long time to get this project really fully developed but it is developed now and it's ready for prime time and you your your show your audience this is an exclusive for you Wow because let me explain what what we're doing here we're trying to get people to be conscious about morals and morality and moral issues which as you know very well yep these days people don't even want to talk about they don't want to think about it you know and and our kids so many kids are being brought up without any conscious consciousness at all about morals and morality sure so this is the concept we've gotten moral leaders more than 120 at this point and we're talking about priests and ministers and rabbis and imams and we have a Catholic Archbishop we have the Dean of the Harvard Divinity School we've got a wide range of moral leaders in representing more than 20 religions including a guy I happen to know named Pastor Greg to go on record regarding more than a hundred moral issues to actually go on record make us commitment say this is what I think is moral this is what I think is not moral this over here I think is not a moral issue this one over here depends on the circumstances we've gotten more than 120 moral leaders top people such as yourselves to go on record and indicate where they stand and to set moral standards for all of us and now we went public recently with this project so now more than a thousand people regular old people like you know our neighbors and friends yeah can go to my morals dot org my morals dot org and they can take a similar kind of questionnaire and they will immediately be shown where their own personal morals match up or do not match up with our moral leaders and some some of the moral leaders have are allowing us to use their real names some are saying well no you can use my my position you know as pastor of such-and-such a church without the name but in any case you actually get to see where you match up where you don't you can even zoom in and look at particular moral issues whether it's abortion or polygamy or eating pork we have again it's a long and very complete list of moral issues and then you not only get these answers but now you also get a picture literally a picture of what we call your moral type what we've learned from this this new research is that there are people in fact there are religions that are very very morality oriented that are right there that are willing to to make a judgment and say this is moral this is not moral and that varies from religion to religion it turns out also varies from individual to individual sure and this new test at my morals org will show you what your moral type is so it's a it's a project which you know as you may recall from when we first met each other yeah years ago I almost became a rabbi I was in rabbinical training and right right yeah yeah yeah so you know this is a project that's very personally meaningful to me is to get people once again thinking about talking about conscious of morals moral decisions that we all make every single day sure and to get our kids thinking about thinking about it because they they've they've basically been told that there's no such thing as moral absolutes there there are no moral absolutes it's just kind of a free-for-all to do whatever you want to do you know I I ran into a woman I've mentioned this on the show a couple of times but I was speaking to a woman up in Plano and her son was shot three times on their driveway she's like you know we live in a really nice neighborhood he's a good kid you know but these these two boys jumped out of their vehicle each carrying a gun and they shot him three times thank God he they missed major organs and he's gonna be he's gonna live and he's gonna be you know okay I mean obviously he's gonna be permanently scarred but one of the things that came out of it two things that she said you know I mentioned her I said you know the kids don't understand the value of life anymore they they don't value life their own or anyone else's because they're not taught to value life and we can you know we concluded you know we you need you need God you need to you need to understand that who is the giver of that life and that your life matters and then she made the statement she said yeah all lives matter it's I agree completely of course of course but let's think about to this bigger issue that we don't even talk about these things and we don't talk about them with our children so that is why I started this project going the moral standards project to remind people wait a minute there are moral standards they differ a bit from religion to religion that's true but there are actual moral standards and there are people out there such as yourself who are very conscious of these standards and are willing to state publicly willing to say these are the standards yeah you know let's be aware of them let's talk about them you know how we people our society stopped talking about morals that's one of the biggest mysteries that there is to me as a parent of five children I I don't know how that how we we stopped talking about morality it it's it's really it's it's stunning and and and you know people can argue about you know where it comes from and who gives these rules or absolutes or whatever you want to say but but at the end of the day I believe you know that that our founders intended to have a judeo-christian foundation of morality to build upon for our Constitution and our Declaration of Independence and and our liberties and our freedoms because by having that then you can have civil discourse about the areas where you may or may not necessarily wholly agree but you can't have that civil discourse if you have no moral foundation right that gives you the guidance and the direction to say okay you know what now you're crossing the line now now you're pushing too far exactly exactly right so this this project by the way moral standards project was it turns out to be it turned out it was very difficult to get this thing going because I could I couldn't at first get moral leaders to commit to go on record oh you know yeah well you can imagine the doxing I mean look at what they've done they've threatened us they've said well if you do that we're gonna dox you we're gonna we're gonna shame you we're gonna guilt you or we're gonna attack your moral you know we're gonna say that your your morality is judgment and and your morality they'll say that your goodness your good morality is evil well that's that's I think that's why it was tough at first but you know over the years we found brave people such as yourself to go on record make a stand say this is right this is wrong and of course the more people that we got into the system the easier it was for us to get the next person into the system and that's why we have now so many distinguished people of multiple religions wonderful have gone on record and I and needless to say a lot of the major religions they they agree on a lot of things not everything but they agree on a lot of things yeah and you know let's become aware of what these standards are let's become aware of to put it in a simpler way of what's right and what's wrong here here and let's start talking about these issues and I think that you know as we end up with more and more people around the world filling out this questionnaire by the way everyone's an anonymity is completely preserved we don't ask for any email or name okay so you can all take this anonymously this is for your edification literally your edification this will show you where your own personal morals if you have some and I hope you do this will show you where they match up where you stand with people who are moral leaders who are in our database so far yeah and it will also lay to show you your moral type and again we find there are three types the most common which is but very healthy it's they have the healthiest type really is the judgmental type meaning you actually do make judgments I don't mean that in a negative way at all it means you do make judgment well you sure I mean first that's the problem the problem is is they've turned judgment into an evil and and and you yeah I mean you have to make decisions you have to judge whether or not adultery is okay you have to judge whether or not stealing is okay whether or not lying when you stay at a verbo you always get the whole home not part of it but the whole upstairs the whole downstairs the whole fridge the whole backyard and the whole nap room because is it really a vacation home if you have to share it with the host only whole vacation homes always all yours book on the verbo app is okay you have to make those kinds of judgments and when you mention abortion you have to make that decision you have to decide what do I think about that and then and you have to make decisions about the values of life and liberty and so on we've run out of time hold on though hold on folks I've got to let my TC and TV audience go but we're gonna stay on social media for a few more minutes with dr. Roberts permission because this is an important thing and I and this is we're breaking this no one else has this no one else knows about this no one else is presenting this my morals dot org my morals dot org all right Texas fully loaded is coming up right now on TC n but I'm gonna stay live on our social media at pastor Greg CGR at cloud hub and get her and of course our chosen generation radio show on Facebook personal Facebook impeach Democrats Facebook and and and we're live on speaker as well all right we're gonna take that array and we keep going for just a few minutes if you've got a few minutes left for me let's let's talk I'd like you to break down those three types if you don't mind absolutely so the most common type and this is applies to religions and individuals is judgmental and again we mean that in a very positive way and that means people do make judgments but unfortunately there are two other types which are all too common and they're becoming more and more common one is called the amoral type and that means you don't make judgments but you know we don't we're not willing to call anything moral or immoral and that's the amoral type there are no religions that are amoral that we know for sure now from the data we've been collecting and the third type is actually quite interesting the third type is called contextual and that means these people say well it depends it depends on the circumstances and of course there are some issues like that I mean soldiers need to be able to fire their weapons obviously you know in a war situation and of course if you're being attacked you need to be able to I remember that question is it okay to kill someone in in battle in war yeah I remember that question and I'm pretty sure I answered yes well sure yeah so those are the three major types and then there are mixes so if you take the test at my morals org it'll actually show you your moral type whether it's primarily judgmental and again we mean that in a positive sense a moral which is which is not so common but unfortunately it's becoming more and more common or contextual meaning well it depends and you will be able to see where your answers match those of very very distinguished moral leaders representing 22 religions you'll be able to see where your answers match the best and you'll be able to zoom in and see what those moral leaders how they actually respond to questions about polygamy and abortion and you know and murder and you know you name it you'll actually be able to zoom in and look at particular ways in which your morals match or do not match those of very distinguished moral leaders powerful stuff folks powerful stuff again three websites that I've got up listed here under dr. Epstein's name America's digital shield calm America's digital shield calm these are the individuals that are that are gathering the data and and reporting on that the the bias and the indoctrination that's taking place by big tech in particular Google and what they are doing are there others that you're monitoring besides the besides the Google piece right now of you plow you plugged into like a Twitter or a Facebook or or those entities as well we're monitoring Twitter now okay YouTube okay just starting on Instagram and we're gonna be soon adding tick-tock so we're okay we're after everyone we're going after everyone and will you will you add Facebook to that as well is there is there a way to monitor them too we're trying to monitor Facebook and we're there are some technical challenges there but we're gonna do we're gonna overcome those over time and make sure that we're monitoring Facebook absolutely and then are you still looking for volunteers as well if someone goes on to America's digital shield calm and says wow this is great this is awesome I can't how can I help besides you know making a donation I know you mentioned $25 helps to go towards supporting the individuals that are engaged in this obviously they need a you know a computer that's at a certain level that has a certain capability and and the software and you know and and all of the things that are associated with that monitoring process but are you are you also still looking for individuals to be to help with the process you ask the best questions that's one of the reason I love love chatting with you we we would love to take volunteers and I know we would get tens of thousands but we can't for one simple reason because Google would send us thousands of volunteers sure and then we would get lots and lots of invalid data so that's why we've decided that these field agents that we have now almost 9,000 in all 50 states these are American heroes you know they're letting us look over their shoulders and preserve their data and we're building that group it's going to be much larger by the end of this year so we're prepared for next year but that's on a referral basis it's a very tight it's a it's a closed entity it's a closed loop so to speak and obviously these are individuals that it doesn't really matter what their particular world view is either whether they are conservative or whether they're liberal or whether they're somewhere in between because what you're looking at is is as they as they do their searches you're you're gathering data to see how Google is attempting to influence their decision based on the search results that are coming back from the searches that they do am I am I kind of oh no you're absolutely right but we of course it's important that we know whether our field agents consider themselves yes of course and you have to have a mix and you have to have a mix right of right but that's where it gets disturbing because what we find is Google is sending the same liberally biased content to people who are liberals moderates or conservatives they don't care they're sending that biased content to everybody and we know that because we know the political leanings of our field agents so they want to keep liberals liberal they want to move they want right I mean that would be okay and and so they're so they're they're really hitting them heavy and saying stay liberals stay liberal that they want to take the middle people and they want to try to move them if they can which in many cases they are because of subliminal images and things that they're seeing and then if they can they want to weaken the resolve of the conservative maybe even cause the conservative not to switch their own personal beliefs but to stop telling others about what they think because they feel like it's a lost cause or they want the conservatives to stay home and not vote right right yeah yeah so yeah there they're pushing everyone in the same direction and normally they get away with it without anyone knowing but we are preserving the data we have preserved more than 11 million ephemeral experiences on Google and other platforms in the last few months go I'm so sorry I'm excited about what you're doing so so okay so now we look to Congress right and we say hey you you know here's our evidence okay now we're not hypothesizing now I'm not coming to you and testifying and saying well we think or it could be or it's a possibility we're saying no here is the here's the mound of evidence this is what they're doing it's not a mound anymore it's a mountain of okay and so now we're going to Congress and we're saying look something you guys need to pass some form of legislative or policy or something that somehow interferes or changes and makes them become neutral again if they ever were well it turns out and I'm working with with attorneys general from around the country I'm working with Ted Cruz and other members of Congress it turns out that just by collecting the data these authorities could end up sending some of these tech execs these tech lords to jail because you know what's happening here is they are making the very very large-scale in-kind contributions to political parties and to candidates without declaring it the law and we are preserving the evidence evidence that is normally lost forever we are preserving it with our monitoring system so because they are manipulating the the voter as it will and making money off of it and then using that money to basically buy a politician or buy an influence I mean that's how the law would look at it now they're in trouble potentially because they're doing the equivalent of making what's called an in-kind contributions to political campaigns or to candidates and quick example Google's home page in the 2022 midterms every now and then of course would show a go vote reminder on the home page right on Election Day okay in the state of Florida one of one of the swing states we were monitoring in 2022 100% of liberals in Florida got those go vote reminders from Google on Election Day but only 59% of conservatives did now that is a dramatic vote manipulation that gets thousands of more votes thousands of more liberals voting that day than conservatives and that is a violation of campaign finance law because they're actually supporting one party and they're hiding it they're not declaring it yeah it's good job yep it's a felony my my my and and of course you know one of them I live in Texas one of the AG's that was really you know helping and going after that kind of stuff was Ken Paxton I I know Ken Paxton I gave several briefings to his staff and was in regular touch with one member of his staff for a long long time and watched watch them try to take on the tech companies but you know that I have to say that Texas kind of let me down because you know they got they got scared they even they got scared of Google and they ended up shifting their their legal approach to this problem away from consumer protection issues and that's what this should be about is protecting us from manipulation and protecting our kids from indoctrination and they ended up moving away from those issues and moving to antitrust issues you know issues about monopoly and that's where they are now and I'm very disappointed in that in that group because and they explained it to me too as this was happening they explained why they had to shift over but antitrust issues are not going to help us antitrust issues you know if if if these authorities prevail on these these kinds of lawsuits all that means is they would force Google to sell off some of the companies that they bought right that would not affect at all their surveillance yep it doesn't stop the manipulation the censorship and the manipulation and he would have no impact at all man oh man oh man well you know it is a shame and of course they've gone after can over here as well which I'm very yes yes that's true very displeased about but nonetheless that's that has taken place all right so America's digital shield calm if you happen to be one of the nine or ten thousand then I assume maybe one of those people that you're rubbing elbows with might tap you on the shoulder one day and say hey how would you like to be a part of this and and if you get that tap then you can be like I heard about that yeah I'd love to what should be good my morals dot-org critically important project because we need to elevate the conversation folks I if you watch this show you know I nearly every day I talk to you about how important it is that we have morals now I share with you my moral view and where my morality comes from and I believe I believe what I believe and I'm an ashamedly believe what I believe but I say it not to condemn anyone but because I believe that true freedom and true Liberty and true opportunity is only present when that moral foundation is solid and it's present for everyone and without it it's not when man has a hold of the reins this is what dr. Epstein is is identifying he is proving that when man has that power and that control then man is going to use it for his own purposes for his own efforts and for his own gain and to hell with everybody else because he doesn't have morals and when man is being controlled and understands that these rights and privileges and everything we have comes from someone greater than us and that we will one day respond to that now we're in check and we will begin to do the right thing and that's all dr. Epstein is saying is is hey we need to start doing the right thing because we're losing our country and we're losing our world because people are no longer doing the right thing because they don't even talk about doing the right thing and you know what our data also are showing that the people who have these moral moral standards who are conscious of morals they are generally speaking happier more successful in their professional lives and more successful in their personal lives that's what the data say well and there you go and that is a message as you know that I share with all of you every day if you'll you know God's plan is that you will prosper and be in good health and and I think the Creator knows how best for the creation to behave that's just my opinion so there you go dr. Epstein thank you so very much America's digital shield calm my morals org and you can donate directly at my googleresearch.com and make sure you type all that in otherwise Google is gonna direct you over to some other website I'm serious I tried it and the first place they tried to take me over to one of their analytics pages it's like no we do that again my googleresearch.com my morals.org and America's digital shield calm dr. Epstein thanks so much for being with us today I'm so honored to have you it's great to be connected again with you absolutely I can't wait to come on again let's not wait so long okay hundred percent all right folks I'm gonna play something for you that I play regularly to close out the program and that is this at the end of the day because at the end of the day we are gonna give an account I really believe we are and at the end of the day I don't want my account to come up short I hope you don't want yours to either at the end of the day right now at the end of the day when I stand before my God I do not want him to ask me what did you do with the world that I sent my son to die for and redeem how did you fight the good fight to share the good news and keep evil in check how did you shine your light and be a beacon of truth in the darkness did you shrink back in fear when they demanded you change my message did you call evil good and good evil did you forsake my love for that of another lying with the adulterer and setting up a new idol in your life have you defiled yourself through compromise and tolerance of that which I call an abomination have you innocent blood on your hands for the children murdered on your watch and the young ones perverted in their way by evil men seeking their own comfort and reviling me no at the end of the day I want him to simply say the evidence is in well done thou good and faithful servant I love my God and I love his creation and I will go to my grave telling the world that evil is evil and only God is good and Jesus came to save the world that no matter the evil in the world I will never give up and in spite of the hate I will love in truth God bless you all and may love remove the veil so you all might enter into his rest