Bill Hemmer & Martha MacCallum

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Head to Bluehost.com to start now. Hey, we are back, and Martha McCallum and Bill Hemmer are here, and it looks like there's somewhat of a rift. Bill gave a very big hello, and Martha just kept looking down. I mean, what's going on? Eric, stay close.

This could get out of control. And I just saw Bill a few minutes ago. We were just on set together on his show, so we had already said good morning. I had no idea if you stayed in contact. Actually, we were giving the side eye to you. Oh, I'm sorry.

I misinterpreted. We were just talking about, I don't want to spend the whole time on this, but we were talking about that full screen you had on the injunctions, on six for George Bush, and there was 14 for Barack Obama, 64 for Donald Trump. And Martha thinks it's not a bad thing because it's good to test the system. Well, I'm just saying the torrent of stuff that's coming at these judges, they have much more to chew on than they have in prior administrations, certainly, where not a whole lot was happening. But I think that in some ways, with some of these cases, the administration wants to test it, right? Push it in front of them and have them determine that actually it is upheld in the executive power.

It does fall under the national security obligation of the president of the United States to return people who belong to a terrorist organization and eject them from the country. So I think some of these are going to actually help them make their case. I think it's part of the process.

I don't disagree. I think Trump sees that as competition. He's not upset. He's going to seem angry. He's just going to push it as far as he can.

He's going to be able to get away with what he can get away. My theory on the case for the flights on Friday night is thus. They knew when they enacted the 1798 rule on Friday night that it was going to take a while to get a judge, to get this in front of a judge. And the planes were already fueled up and ready to go. And they knew they had an ally on the receiving end of it in El Salvador. And they also knew that he was ready with all of his soldiers and his cameras and his camera. I love the cameras because they knew the images would go viral and they weren't going to blow the opportunity. So I guess in the last hour they said, we need more time to give you answers on the questions that you have.

Questions being what time did the plane take off, when were you out of US airspace, all that stuff. But I think this was an operation that was set in motion. They wanted to make sure that it happened. And Trump's an image guy. He was to take those images and flood them all across America and all around the world to let you know how you're going to be treated.

I think that was a strategy. One more thing, these district courts, I had no idea. Do you know how many district judges there are in America?

How many? I don't even know. We found 677. Oh, at that level. Yeah. Plus others that have seniority. So they're going to be conducting a foreign policy? I had no idea.

Are they going to be doing a foreign policy? I don't know, but I just had no idea that there was that number in the judicial level of the United States. See, to me, this is not a hard one. What I thought was if you want to go ahead and make sure that 261 are actually TDA or that type, that violent deserve it, you want to go do that? If there's a system for that to make sure ICE didn't arrest the wrong person, interrogate the wrong person, you know, and go ahead and charge the wrong person.

You want to go, there's a system you want to work through, go do it. But to stop it, turn the plane around as a district judge. Really? Do we have enough gas to do that? Where are we landing? Going to clear the airfield for us? And now all of a sudden, I worry about this.

Like Martha, I think, and the president's like you, he's laid back about it. I worry about this is such an extreme example. I never thought a district court judge would make a stand here. The other stuff, when you talk about dissolving the Department of Education and things like that, this worries me because this to me is such an extreme example. So many people are like, are we going to bat for TDA?

Really? So I worry about if you're going to stop that, that means everything's going to be gummed up. We're not going to get anything done. I think that what we're learning is the policy is that it's better to ask forgiveness than permission.

And they are in go-go mode. Just do it, right? And we will answer to the judge later.

I will figure this out. I do not believe that the American people care at all. I think they want these people ejected from the country. And as I said before, if there's a neighbor or a friend who says this guy is really a good guy and they determine that definitively, we can always bring him back.

As for the Department of Education, these departments were created, most of them late in the American process. They can be eliminated. And of course, the court's going to get involved in these issues. Of course they are.

But I believe that in most cases, the executive power will come out. We had a gun on our show yesterday and I said, how do you determine that they're TDA? He says it's getting more and more difficult. He said when MS-13 was spreading in 2017, 2018, they had the tattoo on their chest. He says that was an easy identifier, but they've gotten smarter.

They've changed their ways and it's becoming more difficult to find and identify them. I'll say this. You watch that video as a man. It hurts when your facial hair is shaved without shaving cream. And you saw that guy on his knees. That's some pain.

And you know how much pain I deal, I love, logically he probably inflicted on other people, but he is in pain. They're getting their haircuts and they're going to go into solitary for a year. And the others are going to go to prison for the rest of their life. El Salvador, 16 minutes is a big feature. I've been to those jails in El, and San Salvador.

Not because of you. That's correct. I was there with Bill Barr. Guys, can I tell you that you know what you can't sense from the video is how hot it is, how humid it is, how many mosquitoes are in the air. And these are open air cages. And the time that they displayed them, there's like 30 guys to a cage. Oh my God. And they're chained up all day long. It's a good incentive to behave yourself. Maybe for an hour a day, they're able to stretch their bodies.

Then they go back into it. This particular prison, however, is well outside of town. I don't know if you've seen the aerials of it. This is enormous. It's enormous.

30 to 40,000 people it holds, right? Let's talk about Russia if we can. It looks like now I found out from talking to Cliff May an hour ago, Mike Waltz says it was only five minute delay for President Trump. That's not true that he was left an hour. So he was surprised about the whole story. But what Cliff May just said that Steve Woodcough was left outside in Russia for nine hours as he talked to the Belarusian president. That was not a common knowledge.

I was looking everywhere. I couldn't find nine hours going in to see Putin or going in to see Belarus, going to see Putin. He was with Lushchenko of Belarus for nine hours prior. What's the emergency there?

That's a vassal state. So as we see what emerged is here's take some prisoners back and don't hit energy sites. Your thoughts, I guess, Martha, about what was accomplished yesterday. So I think the positive way to look at it is that it's just beginning. The process is just beginning. But it's pretty clear that Putin is not in a highly negotiable mood. And even during the first phase of this with Zelensky, they kept saying, oh, yeah, no, we're not going to allow any European troops on the ground in Ukraine. That's not going to happen.

That's not going to happen. And we insist that the military is at a very small level in Ukraine and a level that we agree to. They want to put a stranglehold in this country. They want to make sure that it never joins NATO. And they want to make sure that it's not a mini NATO.

Like to them, if you put European troops on the ground, it might as well be a NATO country. I agree with that. We're closer, a lot closer to A than we are to Z.

So like closer to the beginning than the end. I don't know what Trump does. Does Trump flood the zone? You know, when you get off conversation like that, and if Whit Koff was stood up the way he was, how does that sit with you? Probably not well. Does he amp up the weapons? Does that lead you to a better result? He said, you know, this could lead to World War Three and no one wants that.

I tell you, guys, I read two fascinating things this past week. You've got a land border that's about 700 miles long for the front line. There are parts of this border that stretch for 10 miles, a 10 mile no-go zone, meaning that if you're with the with the Ukrainian military, the Russian military or the North Koreans in this case, you can't move because the drones, their coverage is so intense that they'll detect you immediately. Even then, if you're able to negotiate a ceasefire, an armistice or some sort of pause, pause or even or, you know, capitulation, how do you do long term? How do you defend that border?

It's 700 miles long. The damage is already done. Both sides hate each other more with greater intensity than ever before in their history. This is a huge challenge.

There is no easy way to figure this out. And I'm not I mean, with all the talent and Trump and Waltz and Whit Koff and Rubio, I don't know. I agree with your point. Putin is hell bent on winning and does not care about the destruction. The other thing I learned this week, the North Korean soldiers are getting better and they're fighting in Kirks. There was a line of the Wall Street Journal where these guys crawled through a non-operating natural gas pipeline. And they did it in that town in Kirks that was fought over for the last week. And they popped out on the other side and they cut off the retreating Ukrainian soldiers. And a number of these North Korean soldiers died from methane poisoning from the gas line. Blew me away.

Wow. These guys, they're sent half a continent away. They don't speak the language. They can't read the alphabet.

The food sucks. And they're crawling through gas pipelines to fight an enemy they have no beef with. That is one terrible way to go. Right. And they were a cannon fodder in the beginning. And they just would go straight ahead and have no idea about drone technology or things of that nature. But how the North Koreans? I mean, the fact is, they're taking Chinese dual-use weapons. They need Iranian weapons, drones especially, the Shaheed drones or missiles. And now they have North Korean troops and they're going into Yemen and they're recruiting out of Yemen. So this is a country of 150 million who can't even staff an army because they've lost so many.

And at least a million people have left the country because they want no part of this war. So on some level, when the doors close, as evil as Vladimir Putin is, does he say, I got an off-ramp here and do I want to alienate the guy that actually is talking to me for three and three-quarter years? He's not there yet. Putin isn't?

No. I mean, you know, when you look back, I look back at this 2007, I think, speech by Putin about basically diminishing American power. That is the goal of all of these entities that are involved in this fight. I just wonder, at some point, do we get, do we realize what a distraction all of this is from what's happening in China? And is there a decision that that is the more important battle, the more important place for us to be? And does, do we ultimately walk away from this fight?

It's very difficult to solve. The other just side point that I was reading about this week that I think is so fascinating. I think that what we've watched in between Russia and Ukraine is the last trench warfare in history. When you see these advances of these drones and what they're able to do, we are looking at the future of warfare in this zone in a way, absolutely. Little things that look like dogs that go, you know, you used to have to get into the trees in a place where you could hide to do reconnaissance, to see where the enemy was.

You're not doing that anymore. So the early stage of this, the trench warfare looked like World War One. The later stage looks like the future of warfare in the world. We're going to find out if you need to know more.

And Martha, you exclusively going to let our listeners know who's going to be on your show. Is that true? Absolutely.

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All right, we are back. Martha and Billy here. Martha, I don't want to lose this opportunity to find out what's going to be on your show. So we were talking one of my favorite stories was the whistleblowers from the IRS who felt that they had felonious activity from the Bidens that was, you know, not worth the squeeze of the juice, wasn't worth the squeeze. So now Joseph Ziegler is going to be a Treasury official.

So it's a vindication. And we're going to speak with him. We've had him on a lot.

And we're going to talk to him today. Martha is in what I call the hot zone of cable news. Yeah, it's pretty, pretty hot lately.

Keep the plates up in the air. And then Trump, Trump, you never know when he's going to take over. A lot going on. It's great. And, uh, all right, Bill, you, you know, you're not jealous of that guest, are you?

I'll be watching. Okay, good. And learning. All right. So here's a lot more to know. I just got to ask you this.

I never even thought this was an issue. Are you honest with your dentist? It turns out a majority of Americans are not. 60% confessed to wanting to impress their dentist during office visits. 57% lie about their hygiene. 48% believe their dentist can see right through their lies.

And 64% feel guilty about their dishonesty. Bill Hemmer, do you lie to your dentist? I'm down on dentists. I don't lie to my dentist, but I do floss every day.

So do I. That's what they're lying about. One of the only things in this world that you cannot Google, even with AI, is the opinion of a dentist about something in your mouth that you can't see.

Martha? I, I think what they're, probably what people are lying about is flossing. And I'm with, I'm with Bill. I floss every single day. So no, I do not lie to my dentist.

And they can see if there's plaque on your teeth. I don't think that any lie is going to convince them otherwise. So get this. Coffee houses are the hot new first date place. They say that it's a safe place to be. New York Post quotes one, 26 year old says, it's less of a commitment, especially meeting someone for the first time. Going out to dinner is just too much pressure. Where you go to the coffee date, this goes very well.

And springboard to other things. I'm okay. I'm okay with it.

I think Martha's going to take the other side. I remember someone asking me out for coffee once. I was like, coffee?

That's so boring. Take me out for dinner or a drink. I'm not going out for coffee. The thing is, were you, did you want to go out with him? Um, I just, no, it turned me off that he wanted, I was like, you're really boring. No, thank you.

I think there's some cool spots in New York where you can find a good spot. I guess if you want that barrier of protection and you're not sure you like the person, maybe coffee's okay. Remember like, um, it's just lunch? Isn't there like a, Whatever happened to it, it's just lunch.

So, so I think this is the problem. Hey, how you doing? Good to meet you. What's your name? Great. Now it's nice to meet you.

You look great. I want to get in a line. What do you want? A latte? Then you're gone for 15 minutes and then you come back and like, do you get another one?

I can't really have two once it's done. The other thing I was talking to Carly Shimkus about this, not that we like to get drunk, but it's such a shame that people are drinking less now and going to bars less. There's nothing better than going to bar. You see a flat screen up there at seven o'clock. It's Friday. I know before you take your first sip.

Isn't it fun? I don't believe any of this stuff. The kids don't even, they don't go out anymore. They're not. I'm not buying that. What do you mean? Well, I'm not my neighborhood, man. It's just crawling on the weekends. Well, I don't know. I have three in their twenties and like they, they go out a couple of them more than others, but it's not like it used to be like every, we went out every Thursday, Friday and Saturday. Thursday was like the beginning of the weekend.

We went out all the time. But what's healthier? Like, I don't know if they graduate. For example, people used to smoke all the time. Now they smoke less. Okay, that's good. But now they're drinking less. I'm thinking really?

I mean, you could go out and get zero. I think people smoke less, but I think they drink the same amount, if not more. By the way, this is Lent, so I am on the wagon. Yes.

He's always on the wagon. Why do you go out and drink Lent? Because it's hard. That's why. Right.

I'll tell you why. You lose weight, you become enormously more productive. So it's really beneficial for you. And everything in New York is 50% off. What do you mean?

So you, yeah, three for three. The bill comes and it's half the price that it used to be. Because he's not drinking at dinner.

Not paying for an $18 cocktail. Yeah. This is what I found out.

The next day, this is what I found out. The next generation, it's not that they're mature to get drunk. They're getting high or having gummies. Totally. There's nothing less social, like socializing than getting high. Let's go out and get a gummy together.

It's terrible. I agree. Alcohol is much more social, but I think they are coming after alcohol in a huge way.

It's going to have labels on it. Now they're saying no amount of wine is safe. No amount of alcohol is safe. It used to be like, you know, oh, well, a glass of red wine every day actually makes you healthier. No more. They are coming after alcohol in a big way. West Virginia is set to implement the biggest crackdown on junk food in history. Yeah.

West Virginia. I'm okay. I'm okay with that.

Let's get healthy. Yeah. Obviously you don't want to invest in ringdings.

All right. No yodels in the portfolio. No twinkies in the McCallum fortune. No, there never were. Don't forget, Saturday night, where you're going to be St. Louis, history of the real left live on Fox nation, Brian, kill me.com.