More democrats call for Musk to be "taken down"

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So glad you're there. Brian Kilmey, thanks for being with us all week long. James Trustee at the bottom of the hour, inside all these court cases, the injunctions coming up to work on President Trump's agenda. It's not so much you're fighting Democrats anymore, you are fighting the legal system, and a lot of them are left-wing judges. And is that the way our government was meant to be set up?

James Trustee on the On what you can do legally to push forward on a lot of these programs. Also, don't forget to get the podcast, BrianKilmecho.com. You go to the Fox News app, you can order it anytime. And we look forward to you downloading that.

So, before we get to Michael Watley, RC chair, let's get to the big three. Number three. Today, we take a very historic action that was 45 years in the making. In a few moments, I will sign an executive order to begin eliminating the Federal Department of Education once and for all. Department of Education smashed.

Why this might be the biggest thing Trump does and what will define his legacy? I'll explain. Number two, this notion of toxicity and masculinity needs to be separated. I think some of us scare them. I think I scare them a little bit why they spend so much time on it.

Because, no, I'm serious, because I can fix a truck. They know I'm not bullshit. On the jail. This guy is just clueless. The more he talks, the worse Democrats do.

Governor Tim Waltz. Dem's unhinged and deranged, looking for a direction, a mission, and a leader. I'll explain that. Number one. What's happening now with Musk is making them very afraid.

And that's a good thing. Tesla was permanently tarnished the moment Musk gave that Nazi salute. All I want to see happen on my birthday is for Elon to be taken down. Yes. That is a congresswoman, yes.

She wants a successful American billionaire who has seven American companies employing tens of thousands of people to be taken down. Trump, Doge, and Tesla dominate this week as we learn more about them, the people behind Musk, bringing efficiency back to the government and the price they are paying for getting America solvent again. Michael Watley joins us now. Michael, this has got to be caught you by surprise. When people step up and support Trump, you know, sometimes they might have something work against them.

They might not get a contract they wanted. I never thought that people would go out to destroy a successful electric car company, especially these green maniacs. They really are the backbone of the Democratic Party. Yeah. 121,000 jobs in the United States, an American-owned company that is making the exact kind of cars that they are trying to shove down everybody's throat.

It is really remarkable, the hypocrisy that they are approaching this issue with to go after a guy, you know, to attack him for SpaceX, for bringing, daring to bring down people who've been stranded in space for nine months. It really is a spectacular term to see these people that are pivoting around on Elon Musk.

So in Bud Light, they decide, okay, I don't like what they stand for. They were a boycott and they still haven't bounced back yet. But that's an American Americans answering and making a decision. But blowing up Teslas at dealerships, harassing Tesla owners, graffiti their cars with Nazi symbols around the country and now in Canada. It's insane.

Listen to these. This is John Cusack, Alex Winter, and Jasmine Crockett cut one. What's happening now with Musk? making them very afraid. And that's a good thing.

Elon Musk only has himself to blame for tanking this company. Tesla was permanently tarnished the moment Musk gave that Nazi salute. Starting with on March 29th, it's my birthday. And all I want to see happen on my birthday is for Elon to be taken down. Yes.

And on the 29th, they're planning a massive attack of Tesla vehicles, Tesla locations, Tesla charging stations, Tesla dealerships. Is there anything that can be done at the federal level? I know Donald Trump feels personally responsible. He had that. He went ahead and bought a Tesla the other day, symbolically supporting.

What is it like inside the White House?

Well, what I can say right now is that you have domestic terrorists who are targeting Tesla and going after them with Molotov cocktails and firebombs. We've seen from Pam Bonnie already an announcement that this is not going to be tolerated and federal charges are going to be brought. We saw that law enforcement officers moved very quickly to arrest three different people in three different cities for targeting Tesla this way. Look, this is about law and order now. It's not just about trying to take down an, frankly, iconic American company.

So Congresswoman Ocasio-Cortez and Sanders are going the anti-oligarch tour. They're getting about 10,000 people. Last night they got 11,200 people. If you want to listen to their message, I think you might it might sound familiar to you. Cut ten.

We have been women like And what they like to call me as radical, I believe is common sense.

So she's going to try to steal Donald Trump's line, but her actions tell a different story. When you look at just from a From a political standpoint, you know what you're going to be up against in the midterms. What do you think about this? Look, Donald Trump coined the common phrase party for the Republican Party because that's exactly what we are doing. This was a common sense campaign.

The American people want a strong country. They want a strong economy. They want strong borders. They want us to be strong in the world standing. The Democrats right now are the party of open borders.

They are the party of inflationary spending. They are the party that is fighting every day for waste, fraud, and abuse in the federal government. They not only had bad messengers in this last election cycle, they had a bad message. And as long as that's what they're going to fight for, they are going to lose because the American people want a strong country. That's why Donald Trump is over 50%.

That's why the Democrats are at 20% right now. And they can try and co-opt the language all they want. But the American voters were very clear in this election cycle. This is the agenda that they want, and the Republican Party is fighting for them.

So, one thing I have not seen before.

Okay. In 15 years, is the infighting amongst Democrats. Yeah, there was maybe Manchin and AOC and the squad. All right. But it's not really consequential.

It was just kind of interesting to hear. But they are looking for a direction and going at Senator Schumer like he's Donald Trump, trying to take him down, including Pelosi. And then you have Senator Alyssa Slotkin, who pretends to be moderate, going after AOC. Listen to this: cut 13. I can't just chain myself to the White House and become an activist full-time because you and others here are going to call me for things that you need.

All of those things require me to be more than just an AOC. Everyone you mentioned has a lot of words, but what have they actually done to change the situation? With Donald Trump. She's kind of right. I mean, they just talk, they just yell, they don't do anything.

Yeah, there's no question about it. The party is completely rudderless. And until they find a message that resonates with the voters, they're going to continue to freefall. This right now reminds me a lot of what the Democratic Party was like coming out of Jimmy Carter's defeat in 1980. You know, and the fact is that the Republican Party under Donald Trump is completely a remade party.

It's a party that's fighting for every family. We're fighting for every community. We're a party that listens to the voters, understands their issues, and puts solutions on the table. And until the Democrats adopt that type of a philosophy, they're going to continue to be lost in the wilderness.

So in New York, the Speaker Adrian Adams starts leading this charge to let illegal aliens vote. Bad enough to get driver's licenses. In 2022, the RNC won Adam and sued, you do not let illegal aliens vote in New York City. Finally, last night in appeals court, the highest court in New York, voted 6-1 against allowing that to happen.

Okay. What role do you think the RNC played in this?

Well, we were the lead plaintiffs. We put together the coalition that filed that lawsuit, and we have seen this all the way through. And this is just one of dozens of suits that we have filed across the country to ensure that only American citizens are going to vote. In New York, the Constitution is very clear that you must be a citizen in order to vote. It was a 6-1 decision by the state's highest court.

So we're very excited about that. But we have had continually a very aggressive legal strategy where we're going to fight to make sure that we have the right rules of the road in place before voting starts. We want to make sure that only American citizens can vote. We want to have a voter ID. We want to make sure that states are cleaning up their voter rolls, and we want basic protections on mail-in ballots.

So this is a big win for the RNC. But more importantly, it's a big win for New York. They don't need 800,000 non-citizens voting in those. Elections, it absolutely has the ability to change the outcome across the board there.

So they did a poll, Fox News poll, among Among, you know, I guess we do the way we do all the polls, not just our viewers. And they said, out of all the Trump policies, and there's a lot, what's the most popular?

So the top five really not a surprise. Ban trans and women's sports, make English the language, deport illegal immigrants. These are all 60%. 54% acknowledge only two genders. 53% increase drilling.

Reduce government employees, 46%. NDEI 45%. Takeover of Panama Canal thirty nine percent, close Department of Education thirty two percent, rename the Gulf of Mexico thirty one percent and Greenland twenty six. Let's start with D let's start with education. What is that does it change your mind knowing that only thirty two percent of the American public want to dissolve the Department of Education?

Well, right now, the American public are under the impression that President Trump is going to end federal spending and education, which would be very unpopular. The fact is, President Trump wants the federal money going to the kids. He wants it going to the schools to pay for teachers. He does not want it going to the Department of Education, where they have spent $3 trillion creating an educational bureaucracy over the course of the last several decades. We want to make sure that American kids are going to be educated.

We're not just going to be paying for a bloated education bureaucracy, which is where we are today.

So these polls are interesting, but they're not something that you jump off of, the jumping off points? President Trump has made it very clear that his agenda is going to move forward because he's fighting for the American people. The polls have never been drivers. When he ran on making sure that we're going to have a rebounding and strong economy, he ran to make sure we're going to have a strong southern border, that we're going to have communities that are going to be safe. You know, part of that was making sure that the education for our kids is going to be solid.

These are the things that he ran on, not because they're popular, but because the American people need this.

So, no, I mean, he is not going to have a poll-tested agenda. What he's going to do is fight for the American people. And in this case, he's fighting for every child in America to get the education that they need to be able to compete in the world economy. Last week, you released a number of seats that Republicans are contending for in the House. You know, the way tradition has it, the party in power usually pays a price in the midterms.

Donald Trump lost the House in the midterms last time. And your thought about and your strategy for bucking. The trend Well, first thing, you got to have the president deliver, and he is doing that right now on every single thing that he campaigned for. We need Congress to make sure that they deliver. We need to see the Trump tax cuts extended.

We need to see this reconciliation bill pass, and we need to make sure that we are getting into legislation a number of the changes that the president has been making regarding men and women's sports, regarding a strong military, and regarding a strong economy, right? Those are going to be very, very critical. And we also need to make sure that we have the resources that we need in order to win the election. We've got to be able to get that message out there. And we are very, very excited that Vice President Vance has agreed to come on board as the finance chair at the RNC to make sure that we can raise the money that we need to be able to win in this election.

So now you have Georgia a chance for a pickup in the Senate. You have New Hampshire a chance to pick up in the Senate. And you have Michigan. Michigan, a real chance to pick up in the Senate. Have you had success with Governor Sununu trying to convince him to run for that seat?

Well, he certainly gives us a great chance to be able to win that seat. Certainly have talked to him over the past several years, frankly, about getting him into that race. We will see what it looks like. I know that he is considering it right now. We also have great candidates that are looking at it in Michigan.

Brian Kemp, who's looking at it down in Georgia. What do you think about Brian Kemp? Very, very strong candidate. What do you think he'll be? When do you think, Mike Watley, he'll.

uh have to get back to you if he's serious about running. When do you think you have to form that campaign?

Well, right now, what he has said is that he is not going to make any decisions while the Georgia legislature is in session. And so they've got a couple more months before they're going to finish up what they're doing down there. And then he will sit down and have a conversation with his friends and family and take a hard look at it.

Okay. And do you want Rogers to run?

Well, I think that Mike is definitely taking a look at it. We've got a number of other candidates that are taking a look at it. You know, that he came within 18,000 votes up in Michigan in the last election cycle. Certainly would be a strong candidate there. All right.

So. We'll see. I guess we'll see what happens. Money still coming in from the RNC. We'll kind of pace you at.

We're at a very good pace. We feel very comfortable about the fundraising, and that is coming in primarily because our donors, our supporters, our investors are very happy with the election results from last year, but they're also very happy with what they're seeing right now with the president and his actions in the White House, as well as what we're seeing across the administration and in Congress.

So they understand that we're going to either have a two-year presidency or a four-year presidency based on how these midterms come out. What we saw coming out of the 18 midterms when we lost the House was that it really truly had an impact on the president's ability to get his agenda done, and we can't let that happen again. Right. Swim margin in the House, and you have a better chance of expanding than losing in the Senate. But we'll see what happens.

Michael Wadley, thanks so much. Yes, sir, Brian. Take care. Great job.

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The more you listen, the more you'll know it's Brian Killmead. But I think this notion of, I think it's this notion of toxicity and masculinity needs to be separated. And I think it's been conflated. And I think we're going to have to work on that a little bit. And I think there's, look, there is a crisis.

I think some of us scare them. I think I scare them a little bit why they spend so much time on it. No, I'm serious. Because I can fix a truck. They know I'm not bullsh.

On this. I'm not putting this in people's grill. I don't know if my identity is not hunting. My identity is not football coaching. My identity is not, you know, a beard in a truck.

I look at all these Democrats, particularly Governor Waltz right now, and all I see on the Republican side is mockery.

Now, there was mockery of Trump, and Trump turned out to be a great candidate, but Waltz in particular has become just the subject of MAGA derision. I look at Waltz and how Republicans are treating him, and I just say, I don't get what he's up to. And look, Mark Halperin prides himself on being apolitical, but he also knows what the momentum is and will call things out. If you look at him when he was speaking, you wouldn't be able to see that on radio. He was kind of just saying, I don't get this guy.

He's totally not self aware of how How goonish he sounds is how ridiculous he sounds, how uncoordinated he looks. It's just uncomforting to see him on stage and the way he waves and the things he says and the irresponsible thing he said about Tesla. You could pop, get a get some dental floss and pop off the T label on Tesla, and he's kind of reveling in the fact that the stock is going down because the guy's trying to make the government more efficient. That's his message. You know, and uh we could have been more aggressive.

Who's Kamala Harris, by the way?

So, very interesting. She's nowhere. She's considering running for governor. She's just a failed candidate. She has nothing to say, doesn't do anything, doesn't really want to do it.

She wants to be Queen of England. But I tell you what, the future of the Democratic Party, I can bet this, is not with Tim Waltz. James Trusty next. If you're interested in it, Brian's talking about it. You're with Brian Kilmead.

We did put 235 judges, progressive judges, judges not under the control of Trump last year, on the bench, and they are ruling against Trump time after time after time. It's not lying. Chuck Schumer, they're winning and losing some cases, but almost all this executive orders are being challenged in court, district court. And depending on where it's being heard, Trump's having a hard time. Win some, lose some.

But bottom line is, he's not getting his agenda off smoothly. It's wasting time slowing him down. With me right now is Jim Trustee, former federal prosecutor attorney, former defense attorney for President Trump. When he was a candidate getting set to run again before all those cases were dismissed, he was also very optimistic more than others that Trump was going to prevail, especially in the documents case. Jim, your thoughts about the 60-plus injunctions on the President's agenda.

Yeah, I mean, this is just lawfare continued unabated. And you have to remember, we get frustrated at these district court judges, but there's an army of lawyers out there that are literally waiting to pounce every day on something that comes out of the Oval Office. And so they're litigating in favorite venues in front of favorite judges. Frankly, I think they even pick venues where the appellate. Judges are going to be heavily Democratic and may be predisposed to help them.

So it's putting a lot of pressure on the system. And again, the judges tend to be very friendly. They had a hearing in Washington on Saturday because the ACLU and others said this is really an emergency, Judge Boesberg.

So, you know, they're finding the right places to file. It's putting DOJ and the White House on its heels a lot. And I think all of this, again, it's lawfare. It puts pressure on one place and one place only. That's the Supreme Court.

You know, eventually, Justice Roberts, for all of his reluctance to wade into these very important political moments, they've got to find a way to put an end to lawfare. There's a possibility of Congress, you know, kind of codifying a lot of the executive orders, but beyond that, it's on the high court to shut down the lower courts.

So, Jim, why didn't this happen before with Democrats? When Barack Obama was signing all his executive orders, did it not occur to Republicans to do the same thing? Is there something, did something change? Yeah. Well, part of it is getting that phalance of lawyers out.

You know, big law across the United States is kind of notoriously liberal in most instances. And some of that's a philosophy, kind of a culture of the big law firm that they tend to be on the liberal side of things or the Democratic Party side of things.

Some of it, I think, is green, not red or blue. It's that they're concerned that their clients are going to cancel them if they come out in favor of anything to do with President Trump.

So, yeah, you're right. I mean, the injunction numbers are through the roof for President Trump compared to any other sitting president in modern history. And, you know, again, I think it's kind of a cultural bias in the big law firms. I'm at a small firm. We have four different partners that have completely different philosophical or political views.

And we're all tolerant of each other and of our clients. I mean, I have everything from President Trump as a client to Hope Solo.

So, you know, we're different. I think a lot of the smaller firms are. And that's where President Trump has had probably more success, either defending him or helping him on these crazy. Challenges for Hope Solo and Trump are very similar in their respective occupations. Hope Solo, the best goalie, but not without controversy.

And Donald Trump, a lot of people think very similar clients.

Okay, so you see that Bush had six injunctions, Obama had 12, Biden had 14. The first time Trump was in office, 15, but now it's 64.

So let's break them down individually. You watch, you read this a lot. You read all this, all the, I will read the summaries, you read all probably, but let's go to the case, the case with the TDA and MS-13 gangsters being flown into El Salvador. A judge looks at this Saturday, thanks to the ACLU and a group called Democracy Now, financed predominantly by George Soros, and they said, we have to worry about the rights, the due process of these 261 illegals that crossed in and committed a crime and are going to another country. The judge goes, I hear you.

Turn the plane around. And we go, it's too late. It's in international disguise, A Leyland. We all saw the video. The judge is spending all week trying to find out was the plane really in air, looking at his flight aware app and trying to find out from the Justice Department exactly who did what and where.

What is the judge's problem with this? Yeah, well, clearly it's the people that are doing the deportation, is the judge's problem. I mean, the judge basically gets together on a Saturday and says, I need answers to these questions by Tuesday. He eventually gave till Thursday.

Meanwhile, the Trump attorneys are basically trying to get a stay from the circuit court to shut down the district court. And I think they had very well-founded reservations. I mean, this judge asking factual questions, kind of like the king from on high, saying, answer my questions within 24 hours. It's all a setup for contempt. You know, these are not questions about do I even have any jurisdiction to address this issue.

These are questions about did you just did you mislead me? Are you disobeying my nationally imposed injunction notice hearing?

So as a district judge, he feels like he's wielding his power to stop President Trump's view of immigration, illegal immigration. But let me ask you this. Is the judge worried that we scooped up somebody who just might be just standing by on just picking up his free food at the Roosevelt Hotel and not a gangster? Is he worried about who the two hundred sixty one are? Or is he worried about just sending illegal immigrants to another country?

Like what is the worry?

So how do we address it if we don't know what his problem is? Yeah. Well, look, we shouldn't have to crawl into his head to figure that part out because the court really has no basis to be attacking pure executive functions at the highest level from the executive branch. I mean, the best you can say about this issue is not really about any of the individuals, which were apparently all part of the Venezuelan gang, which, you know, again, they don't have a right to be in the United States. It's a privilege to be here.

So I have really no problem with very quick, effective executive branch moves to deport them, not having judicial oversight. But the best you can say is there's an issue as to whether this alien act applies because are we in war at this point? That's the kind of the legal hook to say, hey, they're pretending we're at war and this is a wartime power. But that's not the kind of stuff that leads to the questions this judge has been having. And they frankly even said, we don't want to give it to you in chambers.

We don't want to give it to you under seal because we're concerned you're just going to turn around and release it to the ACLU and those others. Without any chance for us to fight this thing. And I got to say, they're walking towards contempt. It might not be a bad idea, frankly, because you have a better chance of getting an appeal heard on the contempt issue than you do on the injunction. But it's kind of an executive impossible march.

I mean, you can't help but march towards contempt when you're not getting time to resolve issues of state secrecy, of international diplomacy. You got to get this up the ladder. You got to get the courts up. You got to get this up the ladder office because you got to be able to send these people out. We don't want to keep them here.

We want to get them going. Quick question. I was having this debate yesterday. If you're an illegal immigrant and you're caught committing a crime. Do you have due process?

You know what? That's a surprisingly difficult question. The history of this country has been: we've treated you like you have the exact same constitutional rights just by physically being here, but it's not really settled academically or intellectually. I mean, you could argue that people that are non-citizens that are here illegally without any color of law don't share the same constitutional rights as the rest of us. No, our courts typically treat them as having that right, but that's a really interesting question, kind of like birthright citizenship.

There's angles to it that make it a closer call than people might think.

So, yeah, you're Lise Eldon, you're at the EPA, and you say these contracts. I'm here, the EPA director. I don't like the direction they're going. I want to save the country $120 to $100 billion in these green contracts. That's not the agenda.

It's not in our best interest of the country. A judge says you cannot do that. Why? Because that was involved in the Inflation Reduction Act passed by Congress. Tell me, Jim, if you're Lee Zeldon's lawyer or work for the EPA, how do you fight that?

Yeah, I mean, you do two things. You always try to elevate these things because I think the Supreme Court will be more protective of the executive branch than the judicial branch has been. And I think you have to work the Congress angle. I think they're finally waking up to the fact that when you're talking about executive orders or when you're talking about the power of the purse, which is predominantly a congressional power, that you might have to go back to them to get things fixed. And I think for all these spending freezes, it's hopefully just a little bit of a Biden spending orgy hangover.

Terrible thought, but something where we're stuck with kind of the expenditures that Congress allocated from the last term. But going forward, we should have a lot more of a Doge approach to how spending gets approved and how spending gets administered.

So, what do you think? I mean, in other words, is. Does he fight this out? I mean, or is he helpless? Does he have to spend money on projects he doesn't believe in?

That he doesn't believe in the best interests of the country? Yeah, I mean, look, I think you can the starting point that seems the cleanest ground. And by the way, Richard Nixon took this on back in the day, and they passed a law that basically talked about impoundment. The executive branch can slow down the spending as long as it's within the same fiscal year. But if they want to actually stop the spending on a particular item, they've got to actually go back to Congress.

And then the great solution, which now is not a solution, was the line item veto. You know, Bill Clinton did this dozens of times where he could pick out expenditures and say no before the Supreme Court said that's unconstitutional.

So it is a difficult kind of legal area, but I think the starting point is delay could help a lot. Getting a full impoundment, getting a full stop on these expenditures probably takes going back to Congress, and they need to step up.

So these big law firms went after Trump and they've been doing it since he was president. And then after he was president, and you had to deal with it and take them on, Perkins Cooey, we know they're very much behind the dossier and the Hillary Clinton push to create.

Some Russia investigation and it was all a hoax. And then we have others like the Jack Smith law firms that pushed him forward, attacked the president.

So he comes in there and he goes, I'm suing you guys. I'm going to look to dismantle the powerful Washington law firms that are attacking Republicans, especially Trump.

So Michael Schmidt, an investigative reporter with MSNBC, broke it down like this. And I want to get your take: cut 40. Two days after a federal judge says that one of these executive orders against another firm had been basically unconstitutional, Trump signs this late Friday against a law firm called Paul Weiss.

Now, most people probably haven't heard of Paul Weiss, but in the legal world, they're a really big deal. And something that distinguishes them is that they're made up of a lot of Democrats, a lot of Democratic donors. Chuck Schumer's brother is a partner there. A lot of former Obama administration officials work there. The person who prepared Kamala Harris for her debate is a law partner there.

So a big D firm. And there had been a widespread expectation that this firm would go to court to fight this executive order. Legal experts say there's not a lot of legal merit to what Trump did. There was a clear sign from the courts that they would knock it down. But this firm did something differently.

And the head of it, a guy named Brad Karp, goes and meets directly with Donald Trump.

Now, Brad Karp is someone who in 2023 helped hold fundraisers for Joe Biden. He goes and he meets with Trump in the Oval Office, and they cut a deal.

So How do you feel about this whole scenario is new to me? But I don't live in the legal world. But I'd love that Trump is saying, I remember what happened last time, I remember what happened to me. Two months up until two months ago. I'm gonna go.

I'm attacking this. How do you feel about what he's doing?

Well, you know, he's not actually suing or criminally prosecuting these guys. He's saying, look, we're going to look at you. We may not do government contracts with you. You may lose your security clearance. Again, think about people that were capable of creating Russian dossiers over at Perkins Cooey and shipping it to the FBI, essentially knowing it's a political document to distract for several years from the administration.

So he's got a beef. He's got to beef with the culture of these big D law firms. And by the way, the one that we're talking about, Paul Weiss, I mean, that's Mark Pomerance's firm. This is the guy that actually got so frustrated that Alvin Bragg was not going to prosecute that joke of a case in New York that he wrote a book. I mean, a prosecutor writing a book of how I know this guy's guilty, even though we're not charging him.

It's completely unethical conduct.

So, you know, I don't blame the president for looking into this stuff. It's creating a huge legal stir. I mean, in the D.C. area, all the law firms are aflutter saying we're about to be thrown into Guantanamo. I don't think it's quite that disastrous or that serious.

Serious, and it could be much more significant lawfare coming from the White House than we're seeing. But look, he reached a settlement with Paul Weiss that kind of speaks volumes about his motivations. He said, if you guys will stop the DEI hiring practices, if you'll help me out with some anti-Semitism groups that fight anti-Semitism, if you'll help me out with some veterans groups, I'll let you off the hook. I mean, that's a pretty selfless approach to going after a big law firm. He's just saying you got to be willing to represent people from all parties.

You've got to do a few things to show that you're not monolithically part of the Democratic Party. And apparently, Paul Weiss is okay with that.

So, you know, I don't think that's some humiliating end for a big Democratic law firm. I think it's a bow to the reality of the current state of politics in the United States. And it shows Trump was being pretty temperate in his approach to working out a deal with these guys. Have you heard anything like this before? Never.

All new territory, Brian. It's amazing.

So, yeah, I'll talk to you. We've got to stay in touch, Jim, with all this working its way up. Just real quick on Khalil. Mahmoud Khalil, who was going to Columbia and was picked up on a green card for advocating for Hamas and the Palestinian movement and the takeover of Hamilton Hall, is in Louisiana. He'll be at a hearing today.

He wants to have his hearing in his day in court in New Jersey. Your thoughts about him picking a state that on its surface is a democratic state. Yeah, I mean, look, the fact that it's a democratic state never guarantees you kind of favorable political treatment by a democratic judge. But there's at least a correlation. It's not maybe not direct causation, but you certainly are seeing in law fare in particular You know, law firms landing in D.C., Maryland, Northern California, Rhode Island, they know what they're doing when they pick these venues, and it sounds like he's kind of got a good sense that he might do better in New Jersey than he would do in some other states.

Again, you know, being in the United States as an illegal or even with permission is a privilege, not a right. I think it's just kind of astounding that these law firms are stepping up and trying to create all these procedural obstacles to removing people that don't have an absolute right to be in the country. I am concerned, Jim, that if the administration loses this, it's going to be a free-for-all with these green cards. We've got to get smarter about the people we bring to these colleges, and we've got to get smarter about people that want to go advocate for a terrorist movement, let alone the anti-Semitism that comes along with it in this case. Jim Trustee, thanks so much.

Good to see you, Brian. Right. It's just incredible how much you need a lawyer on everyday news. Back in a moment. Increasing your intelligence quotient.

What the hell did you just say? It's Brian Kilmead.

Radio that makes you think. This is the Brian Kill Me Show. I can't just chain myself to the White House and become an activist full-time because you and others here are going to call me for things that you need. All of those things require me to be more than just an AOC. Everyone you mentioned has a lot of words, but what have they actually done to change the situation?

with Donald Trump. Uh that is Alyssa Slotkin of Michigan, and she sees Elaine up the middle. That's fine. You know, but the more you probe her, if you watch her on the view, you realize she's really left, but not as left as the squad. And she's right about this: squad gets a lot of attention.

They scream. AOC is charismatic. I'll give her that. But she is a socialist, and that is why she's so comfortable picking up the mantle for Senator Sanders. Senator Sanders is a socialist.

I mean, and the thing is, Senator Sanders scares, he gets crowds, and he scares Democrats. And he's not a Democrat. He's an independent socialist who caucuses with Democrats.

So if I'm a. As we talked earlier with Michael Watley, I'm kind of glad. You know, you got 11,000 people. Good. What do you represent?

Would he represent keeping Amazon out of New York City? What do you represent? Not getting any leadership position within the Democratic Party. You know, the oligarchs are running the country. I don't know, but she loves going to social media, got a ton of followers, can speak.

But she's never accomplished anything.

So if that's going to be a representative, best of luck. I'll take Senator Fetterman, you know where he was? He was in Israel visiting to see for himself. and he got a golden pager from Benjamin Etan Yahoo. Shows you he doesn't care Democrat or Republican.

He just appreciates people that aren't anti-Israel, let alone pro-Israel. I'll take the Fetterman cause any day. Yeah, he's got some issues still with from his stroke, but that's a more formidable foe for a Republican, in my view. From the Fox News Radio Studios in Midtown Manhattan, it's the fastest growing radio talk show. Brian.

In Killmead. Thanks so much for being here all week long. Bright and Killmee Joe coming your way. Don't forget One Nation Sunday night at 10 o'clock. And if you want to see me on stage in St.

Louis, start driving now at the factory. It'll be 8 o'clock local time, 9 o'clock Eastern Time, also streamed on. On Fox Nation, on your favorite app, Better Than Netflix. Julian Epstein's going to be on this show in about 30 minutes to break down some of the legal hurdles the Trump administration is facing and the success some Democrats are having in stopping Trump's agenda through executive orders and through injunctions.

So he's looking to go forward there. Today, there's a lot going on. You have, it's amazing how much they're doing. At the same time that Donald Trump is talking about dissolving the Department of Education, he's also expanding drilling in Alaska. There's so many things going on at once.

Today, at 11 o'clock, he's going to appear with Pete Hagseth to talk about how they're going to be saving $580 million from the bloated Pentagon budget, and then they want to get more money. But first, they're going to lean it out. Today, Elon Musk meets with Pete Hagseth, Secretary of Defense. The one thing, this story in the Wall Street Journal is wrong, the New York Times wrong, the Washington Post wrong. It says that Elon Musk will be briefed on our battle plan to our fight plan to take on China.

It is 100% not true. I was talking to Pete this morning. It is not true. And I asked him, where does this come from? He says, people just want to continue to create rifts within the administration, and it's not going to work.

I mean, think about that. The Wall Street Journal and the New York Times, first story, Elon Musk to be briefed on the battle plan to fight China. Who, by the way, has business interests in China.

So obviously that would be an issue. I can tell you something, Elon Musk has no interest in the battle plan to fight China. Big three. Number three. Today, we take a very historic action that was 45 years in the making.

In a few moments, I will sign an executive order to begin eliminating the Federal Department of Education once and for all. And that is Donald Trump yesterday. The Department of Education is smashed. Why this might be the biggest thing Trump does. He's trying to improve education from the bottom up and the top down, top meeting colleges.

I'll explain. Number two, this notion of toxicity and masculinity needs to be separated. I think some of us scare them. I think I scare them a little bit why they spend so much time on it. No, I'm serious because I can't fix a truck.

They know I'm not bullshit. On the jazz. Who knows we can fix a truck? People are intimidated by people that can fix a truck. Really?

I swear to you, the Dem's unhinged and deranged looking for a direction and a mission and a leader. It's not Tim Waltz. I'll give you a clue, but I'll explain. Number one. What's happening now with Musk is making them very afraid.

And that's a good thing. Tesla was permanently tarnished the moment Musk gave that Nazi salute. All I want to see happen on my birthday is for Elon to be taken down. Yes. Um really?

That's what you want, the world the country's most successful businessmen taken down, who employs over 100,000 people. Trump, Doge, Tesla dominates this week as we learn more about them, the people behind Muss bringing efficiency back to the government and the price they are all paying for getting America solvent again. I am just outraged about what's happening with Tesla. Maybe you are too. You have a Tesla car, you're most likely a Democrat.

It turns out you get spray-painted Nazi on the side, your window is smashed, you have it keyed. If you're of the Tesla cybertruck owner, maybe you blow it up, or you go to a dealership where you're proud to sell a Tesla, one of the most successful car companies in the world. And next thing you know, there's Molotov cocktails through the window, and some of the cars on the lot are on fire. And it's happening in Canada too, not just here. And why?

Because Elon Musk is looked at as an enemy of the people because he's with Donald Trump and working on the Department of Government Efficiency. I really don't. I mean, if you ask people if the stock went down, that maybe the sales weren't as pressed, I'd say, okay, maybe it's something to do with it. Kind of like what happened with Bud Light.

Some people look at Bud Light in a negative light because of what they did with Dylan Mulvaney. All right. There'd be one thing, probably a day story, kind of a mention at the end of our show. But it's one of the major stories in the country. They've made three arrests finally.

We see their faces. They're going to spend hopefully five to 10 years in prison.

Sooner or later, we're going to get the people. They're going to tell us who's financing all of this.

So yesterday, Laura Ingram did such a great job. She finally found somebody on Doge that would come on camera. And one of these people, he looks like he's about 35 years old. And just by listening to him, he looks a bit like a genius. And he's walking into now the IRS.

He's going to spend six months helping out Elon Musk. And he says, what's the systems here? How can we have so many people, number one? How come there's not more people on duty in April when the taxes are due at the IRS as opposed to Christmas Eve?

Well, that's just the way we did it. Why are there so many private contractors involved in this? Why are people not answering the phones? Why is there no customer service?

So these are the things that were brought up.

So instead of Elon Musk bringing it up with Sean Hannity or a sit-down with Larry Kudlow, this guy named Sam Corkus sat down and talked about, he's listed as a special advisor now to Treasury because they're under the secretaries. They have a lot to do, the secretaries.

Now underneath there are people working on efficiency. Listen to this, cut forward. Yeah, I've been brought in to look at the IRS's modernization program, in particular, as well as the operations and maintenance budget. I really care a lot about this country, and this is a huge program that's currently 30 years behind schedule, and it's already $15 billion over budget.

So, the goal is to take. The IRS has some pretty legacy infrastructure. It's actually very similar to what banks have been using. Old mainframes running COBOL and assembly. And the challenge has been how do we migrate that to a modern system?

Virtually every bank has already done this, but we're still using a lot of those same systems. And Typically, in industry, this takes a few years, maybe a few hundred million dollars, and we're now 35 years into this program.

Okay, you're not concerned about this? You don't want to thank this guy? He says I got a 15-month at hold at home. I'm 3,000 miles from home, but I want to do it for my country. And what he's doing is now he's got to hide his identity because he could get maybe he drives a Tesla 2, or they'll say, Doge, Musk, Trump, we have a problem with you.

Scott Besson, Treasury Secretary, sitting right by his side, Cup5. I've been here eight weeks, but one of the things, one of the biggest surprises for me, is just seeing how these entrenched interests. To just keep constricting themselves around the power, around the money, around the systems, and nobody cares. I mean, I said to Sam today, I said, the IRS system was supposed to be delivered. in 1996.

And he said, no, but it was started in 1990.

So that's how far behind they are and nobody cares. And the other thing we're seeing too is that as Sam said, some of the employees, many of the employees are fantastic. It's this consultant group who has just they're like a Boa constrictor, they're like a Python. When you hear that. Are you mad at Elon Musk?

If you're a Democrat listening right now or an Independent. Are you mad at Eli Musk for bringing guys like that in and women? You don't think that every agency needs to be modernized? People come in, they work for four years or fifteen years, whatever it is, or they leave, they come and go. If you're Treasury Secretary with the administration, a lot of these times most guys don't even last four years, but they just move on.

And everything's just left in place. There's no urgency to fix it.

So now you have a guy with an urgency to fix it, and all you get is derision and hate. And when you hear Democrats say, well, why don't you tell me about it and bring me in?

Well, the danger of doing that is some of those contracts that he got rid of, and we have a soundbite, I hope we can pull a little bit later, that said, I have $150 million worth of contracts. And I asked people, who are these people? What are they getting? What are they doing? And no one could answer me.

So I canceled it. And then nothing happened. Nobody yelled at me. No one said I didn't get paid. What was the $150 million going for?

And the more he sat there, the more he wanted to get things done. And the fact is, I was heartened to hear that he thinks there were intelligent people there. They just have no direction.

So it wasn't too long ago when everybody from Obama to Clinton were talking about getting our budget straight and fixing big government. This is Mark Cuban, a good friend of the show. This was twenty seventeen. Cut six. As a libertarian, I think we can reduce employment in government by at least a third, reduce the overhead in administration by that much or more, so that we can offer more to services for our citizens.

And so if when it comes down to it, where I tend to disagree with everybody, and this is the libertarian to me, I'm happy to push down the size of government and I'm happy to work on making government more efficient because then more money can pass through and help the people who need it. And that's what needs to change, not because we can't manage government.

So Mark Huban quickly came out afterwards and said, yeah, I did say that and I still believe that, but they're doing ready aim, shoot ready aim, shoot, ready, aim, and they're not doing it the way he would do it.

So he's doing exactly what the others are doing. But you can't take a shot at Trump, you can take a shot at Musk. I also thought about this over the weekend. They are so tired of shooting at Trump and him coming out stronger. They're not shooting at him.

They're not even going for his family, who he told don't get involved in government this time. They're going now for the people around them. Tom Holman is enemy number one in Boston. Elon Musk is number uh number enemy number one around the country when it comes to uh when it comes to Doge and anybody around him. And now they're also coming for Stephen Miller and saying he's the one cracking back with the executive orders because they know they can't touch Trump.

And they're going to go after J.D. Vance for sure as soon as he goes out there a little bit more.

So 1866-408-7669. I do want to get one thing also clear about the Department of Education that I think the administration could do a better job on. And that is telling people. When you say I'm cutting the Department of Education and our grades are so um So poor People think, well, how are you doing that? He should just say, I am breaking up Washington's headquarters in order to get the money to the states to put more parents and people in control of their child's education.

It is true. Nothing's being cut except for the bureaucracy in Washington. People you don't know getting paid way too much with budgets are way too high.

So you block granted to the states and you say, let's compete. And Mr. President, if it's me, I'm telling everybody: here's my great point leverage now. We are number 40 in the world right now. It's time for a national competition.

And the states that improve the most, wherever you're at, improve the most. can be looking at, I don't know, $100 million from a government grant. How about that? And then you empower the teachers and let you know how appreciated they are and how underpaid they seem to be. I know.

Vivek Ramaswamy wants to be the next governor of Ohio. When he talks about Merriot Bakes Pay, man, I know a lot of teachers that would love to be rewarded for being the best. And some of them feel it's not a matter what I do, I can keep my job and I don't get rewarded for doing my job great. If there was an effective way to do that, Where you're not just judging teachers by the GPA of their class, because some kids have challenges, whether it's ADD or physical challenges. I don't want teachers saying, I don't want that kid.

He's going to ruin my GPA for my class.

So there's a way to do that. I would love to see it. But I think the President should do a better job communicating on moving the money. I'm not taking the money. Except for the money we save on the bureaucracy in Washington, will go towards the deficit, but the block grants and the money will still flow to all 50 states.

And what's going to happen, they believe, is it's going to be clear that the red states have it right with school choice, and there's going to be pressure from the parents in blue states either to move or to change their government or make their candidates do just that.

So what do you think about all the changes we're seeing? 1866-408-7669. What do you think about five to ten years of anyone caught blowing up, defiling a Tesla car? Brian Kilmichio. Politics, current events, and news that affects you.

Brian's got a lot more to say. Stay with Brian Kilmead. Breaking news, unique opinions. Hear it all on the Brian Kill Me Show. Tesla's stock is way down, almost disastrously so.

People... People have been vandalizing Tesla vehicles, new Tesla vehicles. Please don't vandalize, don't ever vandalize Tesla vehicles. And so uh So you don't see it. You don't see it, but he looks away and gives a grimace, like, Yeah, of course, I want you to vandalize Tesla vehicles.

It's crazy. Uh I looked at uh Jimmy Fallon. I don't know, Allison, if you want to check it out. I didn't think it was offensive, but he just mocked the fact that all his cars are blowing up and that there was a problem with the Cybertruck on the tops, and they got to be recalled. And Then he made a joke about how they were all blowing up and on fire, and everyone left.

I I I I can't get my head around it. I couldn't get my head around it if it were gas-powered cars, let alone the leading electric car. It makes no sense. They don't understand. Just goes to show you how insincere the whole green movement is, how much we have to do this for the country.

We have to sit in. We got to stop. Every time it's a G7, remember that? They used to have those big scenes out in Italy, wherever the G7 or NATO was meeting, because you are burning oil and gas. And if you don't sign up for the Paris Accords, you're a terrible person.

And when you withdrew from the Paris Accords, Donald Trump, you will burn in hell. They don't care. John Kerry traipsing around the world in his private jet, getting clean energy contracts for his buddies in the clean energy industry. How rich do you think Al Gore is? How out circling the word very rich?

Here's more. They're obsessed with Tesla. Cut one. What's happening now with Musk is making them very afraid. And that's a good thing.

Elon Musk only has himself to blame for tanking this company. Tesla was permanently tarnished the moment Musk gave that Nazi salute. Starting with on March 29th, it's my birthday. And all I want to see happen on my birthday is for Elon to be taken down. Yes.

Okay. That is Crockett. Who says on a birthday wants it taken down? You know what's happened on the 29th? They're calling for a national uproar and attack on Tesla vehicles.

I mean, how is this okay? How is this acceptable? What you got to do, and Pam Bonnie's all over this, and we have an FBI director and an assistant director who's going to be fairly aggressive in it. You grab these guys. And women.

And by the way, one of the three they grabbed a trans man, whatever he was, whatever he started at, it's not a pretty site. And he was he, she was caught.

So three of them arrested. And you put their faces up everywhere and you let them know. Because you don't like that he's making government more efficient. You blew up a car, you will spend the next five to ten years in jail. And then, unless, if you want a few months off, you tell me who's financing this and who's paying you.

Because it's not instinctive, it is organized. You can't really control Canada, but it definitely will affect relations. Hey, by the way, I notice you're not really cracking down in Ontario. I notice you're not really cracking down over in Vancouver. I think you now that's, I think we're gonna pull back.

on even having tariff talks to reduce the tension between the countries. And by the way, this is what it's like not having America watch you back. You had four Canadians hanged over in China over the last couple of days. All you did was condemn them. But I digress.

So, in the past, they've condemned domestic terrorism. All they talk about is January 6th, one day.

Now you have exploding cars in dealerships across the country. You know, if you're a salesman in Tesla, you're sitting at your desk trying to finalize a sale, and all of a sudden through your window comes a Molotov cocktail. And then your desk goes on fire and maybe you and your customers are permanently injured. All because Elon Musk You think made a Nazi salute when everybody knows he didn't make a Nazi salute? He put his hand up in the air enthusiastically, greeting a big crowd.

David in Saint Louis, where we will be tomorrow night. Hey, David.

Okay. Good morning, Brian, and I will be at your event tomorrow evening, looking forward to it. I wanted to talk about the education and the situation with. I'm a Trump supporter. I'm in favor of what he's doing with the Department of Education, but I don't think that's the answer.

My wife teaches seventh grade in a at least middle class, if not a little upper middle class. school district. And the problem is the parents. The parents are completely absent from their kids' education. My wife will email, she will phone call parents of students who are just not do just flat out, not doing the work.

Not that they can't. That they just won't do it. No, wait, you said working-class area, middle-class, upper-class. What is it like? Middle class.

Middle class. Wow. I heard that in working class single-parent families economically challenged, but I've not heard that much with middle and upper. That's incredibly discouraging. The fastest three hours in radio.

You're with Brian Kilmead. There seems to be a disconnect between the younger generation and some of the newly elected Democrats and yours. Do you believe that the party has confidence in you to continue to serve as its leader? And as somebody who is influential in helping Biden's decision to step aside, do you think it might be time for you to? No, I think that, you know, my Senate call.

First, you asked who's the leader. When we don't have a president, there are a lot of leaders. We have a lot of really strong talent in the Senate, in the House, in the governors. We have a great bench. But.

As for the Senate caucus, of which I am the leader, I should be the leader. He is now going on everywhere. And now he's reinvigorating his book tour against anti Semitism, which is a joke, because he's texting back and forth, texts that were exposed, with the leaders of Columbia saying don't engage the Republicans, don't bring up anti Semitism. Instead of trying to stop anti Semitism, stop anti-Semitism in New York City. Even now, he's not speaking up about any of these cases.

This Mahmoud Khalil, who's being held at an ICE facility in Louisiana and wants to move his case to New Jersey, pulled out of Columbia as a air quotes Columbia's graduate student who graduated at 31 years old. Not even coming out against him. But now he wants to still be a leader, so now he's taking on all causes to try to hold on to power. Should he? Julian Epstein joins us now.

He served as chief counsel to the House Judiciary Committee and Staff Director on the House Oversight Committee for five years. Julian, welcome back. Your thoughts about the leadership of Senator Schumer.

Well, I agree with you on the criticism, Brian, that he has been two-faced when it comes to anti-Semitism and support for Israel. a lot to criticize him for. I think he did the right thing on the government shutdown. He did. This is, yeah, and I think when the party, the majority of the Democratic caucus attacks you for doing the right thing.

Then you see exactly what's wrong with the Democratic Party, they don't have the leadership. To be able to explain to the caucus that they're on a suicide march right now. I mean, if you think of the imagery. of the Democratic Party in the last week. you had sort of the the laughing about the terrorism committed against Tesla dealerships.

This is sort of an open endorsement of terrorism. much as they try to give lip service to that idea. They are opposed to deporting Trend del Aragua, the the Venezuelan gang members. Um Uh they are tolerating anti-Semites on Columbia University, therefore men playing in women's sports. And then therefore a government shutdown, they want to shut down the Senate so they can shut down the government.

I mean This is a party that is leading increasingly towards cult-like status. I mean, all you have to do is look at any of the numbers on any of the major issues. They are 70, 30, 80, 20 on all the major issues they're talking about, whether it is Affirmative action, whether it's immigration.

sort of go on down the issue. Democrats Even though Trump is a little bit underwater right now. On the economy, he is still way ahead of where the Democrats were. You know, four years ago, Brian. The Democrat approval rating was at forty nine percent.

Today it's at 27%. Um It's been almost half. And Julian, listen to this. You just mentioned something I think is w w what what Mitch McConnell would have gotten criticized for too. He said, I don't have the cards.

I'm not going to lock lock out the government. I'm not going to shut down the government. And he would have signed off on it. And I was shocked. And Christian Gillibrand, evidently behind closed doors, I don't want to relitigate last week, was saying to everybody, we have no choice.

We will be blamed for this. But then I was shocked at how Hakeem Jeffries feels different than us, a leader. And listen to Nancy Pelosi. I myself. Don't give away anything for nothing.

And I think that's what happened the other day. We could have, in my view, perhaps gotten them to agree to a third way, which was a bipartisan CR for two Four weeks in which we could have had bipartisan legislation to go forward. They may not have agreed to it. but at least the public would have seen their not agreeing to it. And that then they would have been shutting government down.

I mean, this is delusional stuff, Brian. I mean, this is like. When the Democrats thought the answer to their plan their problems with immigration after three years of letting ten 15 million illegals across the border was to propose legislation. They thought that was a stunt that would work. That would get them out of the wilderness.

I mean, if the Democrats had shut the government down, they're already starting with about 25% approval.

So most of the country's already against them. And if they are the ones that are shutting down the Senate by not by not Uh invoking um uh the 60 the the super majority role on cloture Um a 60 vote majority will enclose here. They were clearly going to be the ones that would have been flamed. But there's a bigger issue here. You know, if you if you look at the Democratic approval rating, if you look at their numbers on Do the Democrats care about people like me?

Are there a party that is too ideologically stream? Um is it a party that has any strength? You see, their numbers are so far 30-40 points underwater on all of them.

So you have to ask the question: why do they keep? siding with the wrong side on almost every issue. And that's the perplexing thing to most people. I mean, it's so, you can just read the numbers and see how far underwater they are. And you know, I sort of have two theories on it.

One is I think they're What is the OnlyFans theory? I think the Democratic politicians now are more interested and playing to the online left and to the donor communities. uh so that they can increase their own sort of image and status. it within those communities and raise money. And they don't care about where the public is.

And I think sort of the other thing is they're they're scared of the flying monkeys of the online left. More Democrats, more than anything else, fear being called an epithet. You're a racist, you're this, you're that. By the online left. And so they're captivating this really ideological pigeonhole that's killing them.

Well, let's talk about what they're doing now with Injunction 64 Plus, and he stopped them from the EPA to transgenders in the military to now stopping the worst of the worst of the being flown to El Salvador. Chuck Schumer, again, trying to do the publicity, heal me tour by my book, said this on PBS, Cut 19. We did put 235 judges, progressive judges, judges not under the control of Trump last year on the bench, and they are ruling against Trump time after time after time.

So that's his offensive circuit court judges.

So There's two ways of looking at that. Politically, It's resist 2.0 and the Democrats. If one thing that we know from all the polling data It's that resist 2.0 is not going to work for the Democrats until the Democrats are forced something that makes common sense to the average voter.

So they show they can govern and build. They're not going to get out of the wilderness. as a legal issue You know, they will have some success in the lower courts because there are a lot of liberal justices in the lower courts that have.

Sort of you know, a view that the executive shouldn't be, you know, all powerful or too powerful. When you get up into the Supreme Court, Brian. The you know, there are at least five votes that will Take the following view. Which has a it If these agencies are not accountable to the President, who are they accountable to? If they're not accountable to the The President of the United States, then they are sort of rogue agencies that don't answer to anyone.

And that does not comport. with the Conservatives on the Supreme Court in terms of their view of separation of powers.

So I think why the Democrats and the left may have some initial success They're going to rue the day. that they thought to s that they sought to challenge Trump. on a lot of these issues, whether it's the deportation issues. Which I think Trump will ultimately prevail on, or the Doge issues, which are very popular. You know, the polling show is somewhere between 55.

And 75%. that the public thinks there's too much waste. in the federal government and that they support Uh Musk's effort to Cut all of that waste out. And then, particularly, when we've seen all of the patronage, you know, all of the grift and the graph that have gone to Democratic donors and democratic. you know, political groups and staffers through the EPA and others.

When they really take that story and parade that story out into the news media, I don't think it's going to be. I think the Democrats are going to look very, very soft, very, very bad, frankly, with that stuff. All right, let's talk about what's happening with the collapse of the Education Department. What people have to know is, and I think the messaging has to be: we're not getting, we're not starving education. We're diversifying to 50 states and giving them control of their own programs, and then we're going to see how it goes.

Christopher Ruffo has so much to do with education in America and the reform in school choice that is necessary. He was on last night on primetime. He was a senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute. Cut 29. In short, the Department of Education functions as a left-wing slush fund.

It sends more than $100 billion a year to left-wing universities around the country. It subsidizes K-12 schools in all 50 states. And then it has 4,000 employees, most of whom are focused on left-wing race and gender activism and pushing those ideological ideas into the classroom everywhere in blue states and in red states. And so they This is a historic day. President Trump has done what every Republican president since 1980 has promised to do, but then failed to act.

It shows that he has the nerve, he has the bold leadership, and he has taken decisive action. Right. And he says this should happen right away.

Now, you need Congress to actually dissolve an agency. I get that. And they'll probably put a vote to that. Senator Cassidy is already moving on that. Will he get 60?

I don't know. Not likely, but will he get 60? We don't know. But what he's going to do is leave it up there for special education, leave it up there for Pell Grants for now. Eventually, and student loans move them over to Treasury, eventually get it over to departments, not give up on civil rights.

But civil rights and education is the same thing that the DOJ can do.

So you move it out where it was before Jimmy Carter. How do you feel about it, Julian?

Well, I think there's no question that the Department of Education and the federalization of education has been a failure. We spend $280 billion a year. And on the Department of Education, and two-thirds of our students. can't read or are not proficient in math.

So There's no question there's a massive failure. There's no question the Department of Education funds ideological left. uh of programs on on race and on gender and on a whole host of things that the public wouldn't support. There's no question there's been a major cultural problem. The coddling of the coddling of the American Mind, I think, the book from 1987, Alan Bloom, was very, very Very, very prophetic.

in terms of culturally how students Are losing their sense of the coming collapse of the American dream or something? Is it the coming of the whole idea of the importance of education? particularly in the team years, is being lost. I think we have this sort of autonomous individualism that's going on.

So I I think there's a massive cultural crisis that is going on i i in the education system. And I think what Trump is doing is what they call in business creative destruction. Which is sort of like, you know, none of what the Department of Education is doing would survive if it were put to a public vote. And I think there is a lot of sense. to the argument of returning some of this stuff to the states and let the states experiment.

There are important things, as you point out. We need to. Enforce, we need to enforce non-discrimination laws, which DEI violated. In many, if not most cases. We need to enforce the have someone that does the testing standards, the NAEP.

NEAP testing, all of those things. There are important functions that somebody has to perform, but I think. What's one strategy here is to carve you know, is to hollow out the Department of Education move a lot of its functions to other agencies. A lot of which he can do Through executive action, regardless of whether Congress comes through and actually abolishes the Department of Education. But there's no problem that education is a scandal in this country.

The Massachusetts Teachers Union, Brian. is promoting anti-Semitic iconography in the student curriculum. I mean, Free Press has done an incredible story on this. And you see this ideological left, you see anti-Semitic. Ideology going through the teachers' unions, and you just see a sort of a culture.

Of failure, you see this pedagogy that excellence is now somehow regarded as being racist or being bigoted. And merit is somehow a bigoted concept.

So, yeah, there is a need for a major reformation. Gotcha. And, you know, hopefully, Trump gets it right. Absolutely. Julian Epstein, thanks so much.

Have a great weekend. Brian, thanks for having me. You got it. Don't forget this weekend, Sunday night at 10 o'clock. It'll be One Nation, great show lined up from Kevin McCarthy.

We also have Caroline Levitt's going to be with us. We're also going to have an interview with Larry Kudlow and Tyrus will be on. It's going to be an exciting show, One Nation, 10 o'clock Eastern Time on Fox News. Back in a moment. Diving deep into today's top stories, it's Brian Kilmead.

The talk show that's getting you talking. You're with Brian Kilmead. This was an act of domestic terrorism.

Now, we as members of Congress take an oath to protect the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic. When the threat that was metastasizing was a threat of white nationalists. Domestic terror. You can't diagnose the threat. If you can't speak directly to the threat, you can't respond to the threat.

It seems as though white men invoking white supremacy and engaging in mass shootings are almost immune from being labeled domestic terrorists in their violence. Do you understand what's going on here? That is. All the Democrats that you know quite well condemning January 6th and various other events that they thought the plague of white supremacy. Remember General Milley, that spineless central chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff?

Remember, he says, I want to find out about white rage.

So then it's okay to talk about it. But you're watching people who have. Electric cars being targeted. And it's not a big deal. It's something to laugh about with Jimmy Kimmel.

It's something that you should mock Elon Musk. I mean, do you realize he just... Took two astronauts out of the sky because Boeing couldn't. He has connected the entire world with Starlink. And now he's also working on a robot, a Tesla robot.

Then you have to see this thing. Go to Tesla.com.

Well this thing is going to be ready for your house soon. I think it's going to be like thirty thousand dollars, so I'm not sure if it's going to end up in Altadena or Harlem yet. But I think that it'll be something that upper middle class people have, and maybe in five years. A lot of people have. And it's not just a luxury for a bartender.

You might have it for senior care. In order to beat an emergency operator, you have to see it act. You think I'm crazy until you see it. He's doing this. I mean, it's just crazy to me that we're targeting the Ben Franklin Henry Ford.

Uh the da Vinci of our age, the guy that just is Multifaceted, who's an expert in manufacturing, business structuring, as well as inventing and motivation. Jerry in Dalton, New York. Hey, Jerry. Hello there, how are you? Good.

We change your mind. I just wanted to say, many years ago, it was probably 35 years ago, or maybe even more. Chuck Schumer was running for office, and he came around. Our block was having a block party, so I guess he figured, you know, try and drum up as many votes as he could.

So he was, he said, you know, can I get your vote? I said, well, why don't you sit down, have a cheeseburger. And You know, we'll talk about your politics. Is like, oh, I can't, I can't, I'm too busy. I got other things to do.

And I said, well, if you're too busy. To sit down and have a cheeseburger, then I'm too busy to vote for you.

Well, this man plopped his butt right down on the bench. and fatinated cheeseburger.

So he's after he ate it, he goes, Do I have your vote? And I said, Yeah, sure. I would never I never voted for him, figuring if a cheeseburger can bribe him, what else could? He's a political animal. He doesn't stand for anything.

And to get into leadership and now decide that you're going to now you're going to decide you're going to try to hold on to your position and to not do anything as a Jewish American with the anti-Semitism. Look, he's a political operative. Anybody in that spot has got to get votes, constantly whipping votes. But he does nothing ever to reach across the aisle, and he's never provided much leadership. He was in the majority for a long time.

He did nothing to build out a budget. He was looking for Omnibus after Omnibus. And now he's paying the price because we have a CR on what he created, and we're about to do things on normal order. And if you think he's going to get the Senate back, I think he's got a long way to go for that. From high atop Fox News headquarters in New York City, always seeking solutions, never sowing division.

It's Brian Kilmead.

Hi everyone, welcome to one of the finals hours of the week and what a busy week it's been in the Trump era. Is there anything but that? I think it's just pretty funny to see. Yesterday, we're going to collapse with the Department of Education and opening up Alaska for drilling in the Arctic.

Okay, that's a typical Trump day. And in between, the Pentagon today, I guess sometime in this hour, will announce massive. Doge cuts, contract disintegrations on an agenda that's no longer running things in the White House. Tyrus is going to be with us this hour. Shannon Bream is going to be with us this hour.

Uh and we'll have all the breaking news, including some news from JP Morgan, which I think you'll find intriguing. Let's get to the big three. Number three. Today we take a very historic action that was 45 years in the making. In a few moments, I will sign an executive order to begin eliminating the federal Department of Education once and for all.

Right, but not cutting back on education, just getting rid of and gutting the Department of Education. Why this might be the biggest thing Trump does is he attacks education from the bottom up through primary education and the top down through our most elite institutions. Number two, this notion of toxicity and masculinity needs to be separated. I think some of us scare them. I think I scare them a little bit why they spend so much time on this.

No, I'm serious because I can fix a truck. They know I'm not bullshit. On the chat. I mean, this is how clueless this guy is. That's the most likable guy on the left.

Dems unhinged and deranged, looking for a direction, a mission, and a leader. I'll explain. Number one, what's happening now with Musk is making them very afraid. And that's a good thing. Tesla was permanently tarnished the moment Musk gave that Nazi salute.

All I want to see happen on my birthday is for Elon to be taken down. Yes. Yeah, that is a sitting congresswoman wanting to take down our top businessman in the world. American, who employs thousands of people. Trump Doge and Tesla dominate this week as we learn more about them, the people behind the Musk bringing efficiency back to government.

Thanks to Laura Ingram's show last night and the price. They are all paying for getting America's solvent again. That's indeed the goal. Shannon Breem anchor of Fox News Sunday, Fox News Legal Analyst, joins us now. Shannon, welcome.

Thank you, Brian. Having me.

So, Shannon, how do you make sense of Democrats rejoicing in blowing up Teslas?

Well, yeah. And I mean, if you're going to talk about, as you said, American jobs and you want American manufacturing to be at the forefront of automotive industry and all these other things, are you rooting against yourself? You're rooting against your own country. And people are making jokes about it. It's, you know, being joked about on the late night shows.

And so I don't know. I mean, I just have a real belief that if the shoe were on the other foot and Republicans were out there urging people to blow up Democrat-controlled businesses, you wouldn't see jokes about it on the late night shows. And it might be handled a little differently. John Cusack, a washed-up actor, Alex Winter and Jasmine Crockett, listen to them go off on what's going to happen on the 29th. And the 29th, I guess, is going to be a massive attack on all Teslas.

Cut one. What's happening now with Musk is making them very afraid. And that's a good thing. Elon Musk only has himself to blame for tanking this company. Tesla was permanently tarnished the moment Musk gave that Nazi salute.

Starting with on March 29th, it's my birthday. And all I want to see happen on my birthday is for Elon to be taken down. Yes. I mean, it's almost as if these people are drunk and you look at them and you just say, when they get up in the morning, they'll realize how stupid they sound. But they do get up in the morning and they sound stupider.

Well in the Thing is, is that you're encouraging the behavior that we've had people on the air. You've heard them, our listeners have heard them, our viewers have heard them. They're saying they're personally being approached and threatened. Their cars are being damaged. And again, there's not as Necessarily, these people line up with Elon Musk.

They're being told, get rid of your cars or else we're going to consider that you are in league with him and all of his political decisions. And you got folks like Senator Mark Kelly, who was very supportive of green energy and those kinds of things, getting rid of his Tesla and now buying a giant SUV, which gets like 15, 16 miles to the gallon. I mean, think about that, Chan. Think about that. Was it the experiment or was it not?

Yeah, it's crazy. I mean, he's like, yeah, I bought two of them. Really? You bought two of them. And at what point are you going to call Al Gore and apologize?

Or John Kerry? Or is he busy on his private jet? It shows how insincere, in my view, the whole green movement is. Because they don't even say. It used to be that having the Tesla was the virtue signaling that you were a good guy, you were on the right side of things, you were against fossil fuels and big oil and all that kind of stuff.

And now how quickly it's changed because you don't like the politics of the guy who started the whole thing, who has had his own political evolution in a big way over the last couple of years.

So rather than investigating or hearing that out, it's automatically all the things that you cared about before. Instead, we're going to use Molotov cocktails to start fires that are not good for the environment and blow up cars that won't work. I forgot about that. Not good for the environment, too, to set an electric car on fire because it is batteries. And by the way, it's only going to get worse.

And in Canada, where we really have no control until they finally agree to an annexation, Ontario, cars. Car show, Ontario explosions at the lot, and car shows, Tesla's being disinvited because of security.

So it's working. But my feeling is hold on tight because it's such a great product in a company. If you hold on, it'll make, I think you'll financially be rewarded. But I also didn't know this, how many pension funds are actually invested in Tesla? Like Minnesota.

Right. Where the governor is out there railing about how he loves to watch the stock plummet. Those are his own retirees and people receiving pensions through the Minnesota funds who are the ones who are, you know, they're going to lose the more that you cheer for that.

So I don't know how the employees feel about that there in Minnesota. Couple of things. I want you to hear, I was fascinated to see this guy, Sam Sam Corcras. He's a U.S. Treasury Special Advisor.

He's working for Doge. And he's one of the people behind the scenes. And his assignment now is the IRS. And Laurie Ingram just sat down with him and said, basically, what are you about? Why are you doing this?

He has a 15-month-old, 3,000 miles away. He said, for six months, I'm going to use my expertise from my country to help out. Listen to what he discovered. Cut for. Yeah, I've been brought in to look at the IRS's modernization program, in particular, as well as the operations and maintenance budget.

I really care a lot about this country, and this is a huge program that's currently 30 years behind schedule, and it's already $15 billion over budget.

So, the goal is to take. The IRS has some pretty legacy infrastructure. It's actually very similar to what banks have been using. Old mainframes running COBOL and assembly. And the challenge has been: how do we migrate that to a modern system?

Virtually every bank has already done this, but we're still using a lot of those same systems. Typically in industry this takes a few years, maybe a few hundred million dollars, and we're now 35 years into this program.

So Do you believe that? I mean, what he chronicled right now, how could people not be pleased that he's in here? 35 years late. And they said little things like this. Here we are on Christmas Eve.

You have the same staff you have on April 15th. You can't have customer service. You're overstaffed on some days and understaffed on surge days. No business would run like that.

So if he comes in there and uses some expertise to organize. And he says you just got to care. Who else said that, Shannon? Elon Musk said that. Fundamentally, you got to care.

Yeah, your job. have to be essential. You have to be productive and care about what you're doing. And to hear that official say to Laura, you know, that he would talk to people and say, well, what are you doing here? Or what is this or that?

And they would be like, sort of like, I don't know. You know, some of them that he talked to didn't really see a purpose in the particular tasks and things that they had been assigned. And listen, our Fox News polling that's out this week shows Americans get that. 93% of them think there's some level of government waste with their tax dollars. And they're anxious to see that cleaned up.

Now, they do show also in the polling some apprehension about how it's being done. They want to make sure there's good planning and that it's being, you know, meted out in a way that actually makes sense. But you hear folks like this guy who's giving up six months of his life. And I think about a couple of weeks ago, there was a huge full page spread in the New York Times that showed pictures and names of everybody that they could figure out or establish had worked for Doge. And I'm like, well, what is the point of this?

What is the message that you're sending with this big yearbook? Spread, which I don't recall you doing on previous when this was the U.S. Digital Services and this agency was created under President Obama. I didn't see a big listing of names and faces and pictures. To me, it was very creepy in that you were signaling these people who were doing this, most of them for free.

You should in some way be aware of who they are, where they work, what they look like. I'm not sure what the message was supposed to be.

Well, I think it is. It's trying to intimidate them to not do it or to resign or to be targeted or intimidated. And we'll have to see. But I want you to hear what Scott Besson said right after the Treasury Secretary, who the Doge is working under now that the Treasury Secretaries are in place. Todd 5.

I've been here eight weeks, but one of the things, one of the biggest surprises for me is just seeing how these entrenched interests just keep constricting themselves around the power, around the money, around the systems, and nobody cares. I mean, I said to Sam today, I said, the IRS system was the spoke. To be delivered in 1996. And he said, no, but it was started in 1990.

So that's how far behind they are and nobody cares. And the other thing we're seeing too is as Sam said, some of the employees, many of the employees are fantastic. It's this consultant group who has just they're like a Boa constrictor, they're like a Python. And they just squeeze everything out and they don't seem to care about efficiency because their consultants get their contract anyway.

So I think it's pretty important. The other thing that's happening with this judge fare What's happening, especially with these flights over to El Salvador into a Supermax prison? We have a circuit court judge just focused on what happened over the weekend, what time they left, was a fight in the air, who was on not so much who was on it. How is this going to get resolved? How are we going to be able to fly these gangsters back to their countries if some circuit court judge appointed by a Democrat wants to stop it?

Well, yeah, and that's the thing is that you have hundreds of these district court judges. That's the first level of the federal court system. And they're all over the country. And people forum shop and they go find a district they think will be friendly to the argument they want to make. And if they convince that one judge, then he can shut or she can shut down a program, an executive order, a law for the entire country.

So there are justices who have expressed concerns about this. Justices Thomas, Gorsuch, even Kagan have said, I'm not really. Sure, that's the way the system is supposed to be working.

So, will they finally take it up and answer that question? I think it's very ripe.

Now, you also have on the Hill, you've got Issa on the House side, Holly on the Senate side, talking about putting together their own legislative piece that, if they could get it through Congress, would say one single federal judge can't do this.

So, it's going to come to a head whether Capitol Hill or Supreme Court gets to it first. I think it's due for some answers. Absolutely, we're going to see it.

So, I'm not sure there's going to be another round. I think they're just going to move up the cycle with everything from transgenders in the military to the EPA contracts. We're just going to keep moving up the ladder, every single one of these. It's possible. I mean, you know, to get to a case on the merits could take years to get it to the Supreme Court, but there are these emergency dockets and appeals that are bubbling up through there.

I think some of this has got to be consolidated. I think it will come down to bigger questions, overall questions that hit several of these cases, like the reach of executive power, exactly how far does that go? These nationwide injunctions, can they exist from a single federal district judge?

So I think a lot of what you're seeing is going to be bubbled down into two or three really big cases. And, you know, the Trump administration has provoked a lot of these legal fights because they know they're going to have trouble on the front end, but they think they can win on the back end.

So I just got the announcement by J.P. Morgan. They have gotten rid of DEI.

Now they have DOI. Instead of equity, it's going to be opportunity. And they announced a diversity program, including changing to DOI. They are streamlining the programs, reducing the trainings. He says he's included a memo that was sent to every old employees.

And just to talk about Talk about how the change in focus and how the old apologizing for being white stuff is gone.

So, how does that play into what your show is on Sunday? I think it's super interesting because we have seen this huge corporate shift over the last few months of people who say, listen, the president is putting out executive orders, trying to roll back as much of this stuff that he has a purview to do. But it's interesting to see that private industry is doing this too. They see the polling on this and how people feel about a lot of these cultural issues, and they're making big changes. I mean, frankly, more and more quickly than I thought that they would.

We're going to talk about all kinds of legal fights this weekend. We've got our legal panel. We've also got Governor Wes Moore, a rising star Democrat out of Maryland. You know, who's running the party? Is he going to be the new voice of the party?

I don't know. I mean, they've got a lot of internal, you know. Tension, I think is the best way to say it. That's gone very public.

So we'll talk to him, and we're waiting to lock in our White House guest. We should be able to announce in the next hour or so. All right, that should be good. And then you have a White House that actually cooperates. That must be a good feeling.

It is a very different feeling than we had the last couple of years, I got to be honest with you. And Sunday night, what are you cooking up for us?

Well, I'm gonna leave with uh... Caroline Levitt. I'm going to have Jim Jordan, and we're going to bring in Larry Kudlow. We've met his fee. He does charge a fee.

I'm sure you're very familiar with that. You guys have a bigger budget than we do, though. Right, it's much bigger. We can't afford him. We can't afford him.

Tyrus is going to be on doing some media segments. And that's going to be, that I believe is a starting lineup. Are we going to arm wrestle with Tyrus? It's not fair to him. If I'd embarrass him, maybe a push-up contest?

Maybe we should do that. But I'll tell you what, he's going to be in in 10 minutes, and I know he fears you.

So I might as well give you a chance. But Shannon Bream herself. Shannon? Exactly. Have a great weekend.

We're going to watch you all day on Fox News Sunday on the channel as well as the network. Good job. Yes. I will see you for Brett Baer tonight, too, at 6 o'clock. All right.

Looking forward. Join us. I can't wait. Back in a moment. In-depth analysis, insightful commentary, probing questions.

What's a furry again? I'll tell you. Thinks they're an animal? Sure. It's Brian Kilmead.

He's so busy, he'll make your head spin. It's Brian Killmeade.

So welcome back, everybody. Quick note, we're winding down.

Next time I will see you, it'll be in St. Louis. Just a handful of tickets left.

Well, let's sell this place out. 1866-408-7669 is the place to sell at our lines. Jerry, you're in Chicago. Hey, Jerry. Hi, Brian.

What's on your mind? Uh I just want to talk to you about these judges.

Now Chuck Schumer said that they appointed two hundred and something odd Liberal judges to thwart Trump at every stop or at every turn.

Now Are these lifetime appointments? Uh Are we going to expect this? Are we going to expect this for the next four years? And how come the Republicans never do anything like this?

Well, they did. They never appointed 100 something. No, they do. Trump did a great job in his first four years. Obama left it wide open.

They learned from Trump and they filled it with those judge hits, but there was still some open over the next four years. A lot of people decide to move on. You don't make a ton of money, and they'll go into private practice.

So that's why it's not the Supreme Court. It's the lowest end of it. It was one of the lowest ends of the court.

So there'll be openings and they'll fill it up. But what you do, Jerry, you move up the system. And they figured they'll be stopped, but not 64 injunctions. My goodness. Who's funding these left-wing causes that prop up these cases?

Who's funding Mahmoud Khalil's defense to keep this Syrian refugee in our country who's anti-Semitic and pro-Hamas? And if you don't believe me, he was handing out Sinoir posters who thankfully is the slain leader of Hamas, whose brother is now leading the organization. Not the Palestinian. By the way, I don't even know who they would leave, who they would have as a Palestinian movement. Quick note on this.

Uh Egypt has agreed in principle to take 500,000 Palestinians, which is huge, or they call them Gazans. Maybe into their country. They know exactly the town they'll put him in. That's exactly what Trump was asking for. He's been telling Egypt and Jordan: why'd you take these guys?

Their families can't live in this squalor. It's too dangerous. Let them go out and rebuild Gaza and decide if you want to go back again.

So that's pretty huge. at a time in which Egypt was now defying the U.S. in many ways with what's happening at the border when those tunnels exist. Before they lost aid, they made this offer.

So that's pretty significant. And by the way, the Israelis are on the ground again in Israel. They said this is going to be a limited, specific, targeted operation. Information you want, truth you demand. This is the Brian Kill Me Show.

I think everybody should really enjoy. taking this uh this guy down and this stock down and because of the example it will set the only way to stop that is if the people who have the money. are afraid. A bus. We have to make them.

Really afraid, and what's happening now with Musk is making them very afraid, and that's a good thing.

So that's that washed up actor, John Cusack. Who is sitting there in his basement somewhere or between his bunk beds, making the announcement that we, we, who's we? Who are you addressing that we have to go make Tesla owners and Elon Musk very afraid.

Now, is that a threat? I believe that's a threat. People don't think that's a threat. I think that's absolutely a threat. They even picked out a date, March 29th.

What are you going to do? You're already firebombing dealerships, throwing Molotov cocktails through glass windows, putting graffiti on people in random suburban neighborhoods, let alone smashing their cars when they go shopping. Tyrus, you're here, Fox Nation host, of course, author of Nuff Stuff, host of Maintaining Tyrus on Outkick. You see him every night just about on Gutfeld. And he's going to be on One Nation, a career-defining appearance, according to reports, Sunday at 10 o'clock.

That was from the Killmead Press, wasn't it? Yes, it was. And by the way, what was it? What did you say? Nuff.

What was that? What did I say? He gave me a new cover for a new book. It's enough said, but he gave me an idea. He said something else.

It was good. What was it? Enough stuff. That'll be free. Thank you.

Keep coin the phrase here.

So, Eric, you're just now you're just talking to my guests? You're circumventing me? Eric and I are solid. When I filled in for you, by the way, congratulations on the record-breaking numbers that day.

So, Tyrus, what do you think about that? I mean, I'm angry. No, Eric, I'm as angry as you are, and I think it's good that. That you're showing this part of your personality because it is ridiculous. It is, but.

I want This is the one administration where I don't think this is going to be tolerated. And this is, why is this not a hate crime? Why are they not being and if or if it's domestic terrorism? There's a great place called Guantanamo Bay. Like, they need to be treated as and The people who are who are fanning these flames.

they're liable and there should be lawsuits. And it should be everyday American should be like I from what I saw, they should be suing The Daily Show who's trying to make jokes out of it or Kimmel who comes out and they're they're basically Saying it's okay to attack someone when things don't go your way. Could you imagine when the horrible things that were were happening to people on conservatives on Facebook and and you made the wrong post, you could lose your job if you stood up against vaccine? How many of Facebook's buildings were burned down? How many of his have his owner of Facebook's companies were attacked?

No, when we didn't like someone, but we didn't approve of it, we didn't like it, so we didn't buy it. You do that all day. Don't buy a Tesla. If you have an issue if you issue with it. But the fact that they're fanning flames, if we were saying that, uh, to encourage things like that.

Fox would have us off the air. We wouldn't be on the air. The fact that they're allowed to be on the air and continue to do this just shows how far up.

So I see media. I picked up something I said this morning, and I said, You have Crockett saying there's going to be a great day on the 29th. Give me a favor, take them down. What does that mean? Take them down.

Exactly. Exactly. What did Kusak just say? He said, make them scared.

So, how is that not a threat? And guess what? They are blowing things up. They're blowing things up right now. And not just, and they're blowing, okay, here's another thing that people don't know about the smart cars, like the Teslas.

Those fires are extremely hard to put out because of the lithium batteries. And a lot of fire departments do not have, they're poisonous, and they need a special blanket. To put those fires out because they're so intense and so hot that water, a lot of times, water's not gonna do it. You have to wait for them to finish burning, which could lead to other cars, explosions, et cetera.

So it's very difficult on the fire department. It's very difficult on the people who are there in the building. You're not hurting Elon Musk. Like that's the part where you You just, it drives me insane. He's not feeling your pinch.

His frustration, his concern is for his employees. This is an American company.

So he could pull off all this stuff and go build in China or wherever the hell he wanted to do or and. It wouldn't hurt him at all, but it would hurt the American people. And then, where's their argument? QZ says all this stuff. Please tell me what your argument is.

Please, what is the issue? That he's going to find Where the money goes, or is it because somehow it's connected to you? I think the people who yell the loudest are the ones that we should be putting under the microscope. Do you think they're getting afraid of Trump? I mean, you think about this.

They're not going after Trump anymore as they used to. They're going after Homan on immigration. They're going after Musk on Doge. Stephen Miller, when he pops up, they're trying to say that Marco Rubio's on the way out and Waltz on the way out. But do you notice it?

Went from a guy that was constantly targeted to like they're almost afraid, almost like it's not working. We're making him stronger.

So we'll try to get the people around him. Which would maybe get him off his game. You have to understand he is beating them. For the American people. They had their moment.

But I think it was a necessary moment. They had their small victory. Getting Biden in the office. And for four years, I think we all had to go through that. The frustration, basically having a country without a leader or a bunch of interns running it.

And I think that For everyone, made gave us perspective. We had four years with the Trump presidency, and the things that he was saying that you could say during that time, like, well, maybe he's. Exaggerating. Maybe he's being off. Then we had four years of living it.

And now he's in, and he is a completely different. He's calm, he's relaxed, he's been through it, he's battle-tested, he doesn't fall for their traps anymore.

So, what they're trying to do is get Elon to fall for the trap or Miller to fall.

Now, Miller will go there. Miller will go there with you. Yeah, he's a firecracker. But they tried it with RFK Jr. at Telsi Galaxy.

They're trying to get those responses that they used to get out of Trump because when you get those responses, that's the news cycle. And then you don't hear what Trump's saying because the news cycle is Telsi Galbert punched such and such from whatever news source or whatever.

So I think that's why they're going after. Plus, they're going after the money. And let's not be stupid. Listen, if I worked at the post office, And I had in my bank account, I had th thirty million dollars. Everyone will be saying I was crooked, right?

And a postman should postman makes about the same as a senator, right? Maybe a little less.

So now we're seeing it. And this is where the money's gonna go. And we're seeing where the money went to this, this, and this, and these charities, and all this other stuff that all seem to go back to family members and themselves and always seem to find a way back.

So I think that's what the attacks are really about.

So, yeah, I think so too. Last night, an important moment, it's got to continue. They brought out one of the guys on Laura Ingram's show. Did you see it? And he's a Treasury Special Advisor, and he's with Doge.

And they said, What are you seeing behind the scenes?

So he sat down with Besson and Laura, and he just said, This is what I'm seeing. This is what he says. He goes, Right down with the IRS. And this is what he found, Cut Forward. Yeah, I've been brought in to look at the IRS's modernization program, in particular, as well as the operations and maintenance budget.

I really care a lot about this country. And this is a huge program that's currently 30 years behind schedule and is already $15 billion over budget.

So the goal is to take. The IRS has some pretty legacy infrastructure. It's actually very similar to what banks have been using. old mainframes running COBOL and assembly. And the challenge has been how do we migrate that to a modern system?

Virtually every bank has already done this, but we're still using a lot of those same systems. And Typically in industry this takes a A few years, maybe a few hundred million dollars, and we're now 35 years into this program.

So what he's not doing us a favor at the IRS? And they said we don't he goes, Do you know they don't surge people on when Tax Day?

So there's no more people working on Tax Day than there is on Christmas Eve.

Well, I'm not sure. And when you do, it's an automated service.

So, but that's what we're seeing. That's why their messaging is so irresponsible. Because we're spending so much time on the small percentage of people who believe the things that they hear out of these MSNBMs and CNNs and all that stuff. And then they go out and they apply it.

So they're getting people to do what they want to do. And then you have these irresponsible centers saying, oh, for my birthday, do this and do that. It's just, it's because of. When everyone should be, hey, full disclosure, let's get to the bottom of this, let's save money. Who should be against it unless the money that they're talking about has been profitable and it goes to the people who are fighting it the most?

I just think, I think, when they talk about a billionaire and you have a hundred millionaire who's talking about the problem with billionaires, and that 100 million also happens to be a senator, I think that's a bigger problem. It's about time we started going, hey.

So, I've been watching Gutfeld especially. This is the first time ever. I'm sorry, it's been particularly rough on you the last week. Oh, I didn't see that. Has it been?

Yeah. So, yeah. Usually, guys pick that out. It was some shots.

So, 15 years. I've never remembered Democrats fighting each other. And now it's nonstop. And it was happening last night. But this one in particular stood out to me because the only really tough guy that I know is Tim Walls.

And finally, he's doing a podcast with my other idol, Gavin Newsom. Yes. And they were able to show their toughness last night, Cut 15. But I think this notion of. I think it's h this notion of toxicity and masculinity needs to be separated.

And I think it's been conflated. And I think we're going to have to work on that a little bit. And I think there's, look, there is a crisis. I think some of us scare them. I think I scare them a little bit why they spend so much time on it.

No, I'm serious because I can fix a truck. They know I'm not bullshit. On this. I'm not putting this in people's grill. I don't know if my identity is not hunting.

My identity is not football coaching. My identity is not, you know, a beard in a truck. So he is a real tough guy, and Republicans are afraid of him. You know, Republicans. Have they expressed this fear?

Listen, I'm going to say I don't think any of the Republicans or Democrats that we see that any of us have any physical fear of. It's more of a when maybe we get their hands around our wallet, we get a little nervous. I think afraid they're gonna. Yeah, but Waltz, you know, he's my identity. You pushed this down our throat.

Your team tried to run you as the man's man. There is sought after sat after sot of them telling him about how he's a man's man and he wears flannels and he's outside. And yet, hey, listen, you're the one who took the dumb video holding a rifle like you never held one before. I'm the one who put him on glass when he was changing a clean air filter with another clean air filter in the truck. Tim, baby, if you got anyone to be mad at, look in the mirror or look at your team.

They pushed who you were, and that's not who you are. It's okay to be a sensitive guy. You know, it's okay to be I volunteered coach for a little while, but I'm not a sports guy. Listen, your Madden performance against AOC gave us all the information that we needed. You even said a pick six was well planned and played and timed.

Bruh, you're phony and you try to trick the American people.

So the only person you should be mad at is yourself.

So he's not aware of this. He's not aware of what a Foolie looks like. And either is a guy I think you know, Mayor Glenn Jacobs, who's Kane. Yeah. He evidently has now challenged Tim Walls to a charity wrestling match.

$10,000 to the charity of whoever wins.

Now, Kane seems to be a big hulking guy. You know him? Yeah, very well.

Now, apparently, he's a booker.

Now, I just listen, I get it. I get enough attention in the world, but the first person to call him out. Was me. I jumped. I was jumped on the line.

You said you'll find it. I said, I'm your hucklebear. Like, hey, just say win, wherever you want to do it. And I even said on Gutville, one hand. If I can't get him in one, hey, I'll move to Minnesota and I'll wear the flannels and start.

Did you hear back? No, it fell on deaf ears. But Glenn is doing it in charity and wrestling because he's I misread the wrestling part. I thought he wanted to have an actual fight. You know, because he says you're afraid of us and he could kick everybody's ass, I believe.

Yeah. So I was like, let's do it. Let's just do it. Let's knuckle up. I was like, catch my fate.

You know, you know what that means. But Glenn wants to make it a charity, and that's because he's a giving guy. And but, you know, all it takes is a snap of the finger, and he goes from Mary Jacobs to Brother of Destruction Kane. Have you met people in this world that are just unaware of what, like, how they're being perceived? Yeah, it's called a wife.

So she lets you know how you really be perceived. You can never tell her. Right. Yeah, but no, yeah. I mean, people that are just unaware or they live in the bubble.

You get the bubble a lot. Yeah. People that. Especially on social media, I try not to read good, bad, or indifferent comments because they all have their issues. But sometimes I'll see someone like, hey, what you know what you need to do.

If you're gonna, you know, if you're gonna bench 600 pounds, you need to roll your elbow here, and then you look at a picture of them. And you're like so where is this coming from? He's like, Oh, well, uh, you know, I used to go to the YMCA when I was 15. But but out of that ticket, Tim Walz and Kamala Harris, I thought Harris was just gonna run for governor and that would be a nut she won't look, she wouldn't even put her head out anymore. And it's him who thinks he's got the promising future.

He thinks he's the face of the party. I don't think. Kamala will ever hold public office again. I don't think you can come back from it. It wasn't that she was outfoxed.

It wasn't that she lost. I think you can certainly lose an election and run a good election and still have credibility. But I think that this election was an exposure of her inability to lead, inability to communicate. And you have to be able to communicate. You can be full of it.

We got enough people that are full of it that can communicate. But when you're full of it and you can't communicate, I just don't I don't see any Even and California is going through a metamorphos right now. And our old buddy, the old hand signal captain, he sees it. Do you know they're a billion dollars of they're a billion dollars shy of balancing their budget and that they decided to, I guess, four years ago to give everybody Medi-Cal? Yep.

Regardless of your immigration status, so it's destroyed their system. They've bankrupted the state that is one of the biggest economies in the world. That's hard to do. And they burned down the biggest city, and they've been unable to rebuild it. They can't rebuild because the bureaucrats and everything else is getting involved.

This is a consequential. That's the group that cuts the check.

So finally in California, the group that was willing to be virtue signaling and just vote for their tent, they're now saying, oh, no, no, my life has been changed. When we come back, Tyrus has been handled brackets of all-time presidents and how they're paired up. And I'm going to ask you, Tyrus, on the matchups that have been handed to you in the spirit of March Madness to tell me what president would beat what president. Back in a moment. Illuminating, intriguing, inculcating.

I know some of these words. It's Brian Kilmead.

From his mouth to your ears, it's Brian Kilmead. Hey, we are back. President of the United States now taking questions from the press who actually get a chance to do their jobs again. It's kind of interesting. All types of questions and answers, no filter.

Tyrus is with us now. Tyrus, you have dates up here. It looks like 30 dates. But you have certain. Ingrid called you and said there's only a couple that have seats open available, right?

Yeah, well, the tickets go fast. And I was told today because we added some dates. Grand Rapids, Michigan, which is April 3rd. Tickets are still available for that. And Middletown, Ohio, May 17th.

I've been there. That is a great town. That is a great town. I'm going to be in Ohio quite a bit because it looks like I've got a couple more shows right before the big governor's elections, which I think will be. The world will probably watching that, yeah.

I think Viveka had a good shot. Ohio's not easy. No, it's not, because Ohio holds you to the test. Is Tim Ryan going to hop in? He seems to be the guy that hops in every time.

Probably. I think, well, we'll see because with Doge and stuff, it might not be as profitable to run for office anymore. And don't forget, you're going to be on One Nation. We'll put up the next one. Yes, we'll be on One Nation, yep.

Sunday at 10 o'clock.

So, listen, I just handed you brackets for the all-time president. You got it? Yeah, I'm not sure. All right, so tell us the matchups and who do you think will win.

Okay, well, first of all, I don't even, this list, I'll highlight a couple, but I'm telling you right now. Abe Lincoln and John F. Kennedy, that's that fight is to a finish. Right. But he had a back problem, and Lincoln was a wrestler.

They both had a death problem.

So they're not going to make it.

So it looks like Andrew Jackson and Dwight Eisenhower will have a bye. Why? You just think they're not going to survive. Good point, Tyrus. I never thought about that.

So I take Andrew Jackson over Dwight Haisenauer just because Jackson's a scrapper and Heisenheart lived a pretty easy life. Hey, you get on that $20 bill. You can do those things. And then George Washington and George Bush, this is tough. Because George.

It's a W. W W can throw. I I would stand back to back with him. I don't think if I. But Dana Prino's not with him.

So I'm going to go with George Washington because very good. We never knew his press secretary. Yeah, we never knew his press secretary. Bill Clinton and Donald Trump. Oh, I'd go Trump all the way.

I'd go Trump with that one. Clinton is not a fighter. No, not to mention that in President Trump's corner, I'm sure he would have lovely models and stuff, and Bill's game would be off. Absolutely. Not to mention Hillary would be off.

Former accusers. Yeah. You know, Hillary asked him to take the dive to push the cause. Ulysses S. Grant and Lyndon Johnson, Ulysses.

Shorter, though. You know, LBJ would have the reach. He would have the reach, but Ulysses was a tough guy. He slept on the outside. And he's not afraid to whiskey it up and get after it.

Tyrus, we're going to have to leave it there. Hold on, but I'm telling you, Teddy Roosevelt wins this in a wash. Absolutely. He dominates. Teddy Roosevelt wins.

The man who bent Teddy Bears from murdering grizzlies and making national parks.

So I got Teddy Roosevelt. is our national champion. I'm Dana Perino. This week on Perino on Politics, I'm joined by Fox News contributor, Outkit columnist, and host of the Getting Hammered podcast Mary Catherine Hamm. Available now on FoxNewsPodcast.com or wherever you get your favorite podcasts.

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