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The protests for freedom and democracy against China's increasingly authoritarian control of the territory. It made him a celebrity, even meeting key American leaders. But it also made him a target. And after the passage of Hong Kong's controversial national security law, he was one of hundreds of activists arrested and charged with collusion with foreign powers. Now languishing in jail as his trial continues, his friends and allies have not given up the hope that one day, Jimmy Lai might walk free.
And that is certainly the hope of his son, Sebastian Lai, who's in studio with me right now. Jimmy Lai is a well-known international businessman, self-made success story. And when the crackdown came in Hong Kong of all freedoms, he stood strong rather than, as you just told me, Sebastian. He had a British passport. He could have easily gotten out with his wealth. Yeah, he could have left at any point. But he knew that the right thing to do was stand by his belief and stand by his people, defend his people when they needed him the most. And what happened? They picked him up. He knew he was going to be arrested. He's running a newspaper. And they said, stop it. And he said, no.
Well, it's actually incredible. So they arrested him, arrested a few of his colleagues, and then they sent 200 police officers to raid Apple Daily, the newspaper, which was the biggest newspaper in Hong Kong. And when the journalists refused to close, they then sent another 500 people, froze its bank accounts, and shut down the newspaper. And what did they do with your dad? My father has been in prison since the end of 2020 when he was arrested.
Now, the conditions are horrific. He's being kept in solid confinement. He turns 78 this year and he will be on his fifth year this year of solid confinement, not receiving. He doesn't get natural light.
It's blocked off. And because in these very incredibly trying situations, you can imagine his faith is very important for him. They've also decided to deny him the Eucharist. So first off, let's take a step back. How did your dad make his wealth? My father landed in Hong Kong as a child refugee when he was 12 from communist China. And so it's this beautiful story. Made in England at the time, right?
Exactly. Hong Kong was a British colony. And my father fell in love with the freedoms that we all associate with, you know, rule of law, the free press. And so he went from a manual laborer in a factory to eventually having his own factory, his own textile factory.
And then he started this company called Giordano, which was a fashion brand. And that was one of the fastest growing and largest clothing brands in Asia. But then the 1989 Tiananmen Square Massacre happened. Tiananmen Square.
Exactly. Tiananmen Square Massacre, where many, as you know, many students were killed. And so my father, everybody in Hong Kong was incredibly shocked by that. And then my father knew that he had to do something to defend the freedoms that gave him so much, the freedoms of Hong Kong. So he started his newspaper a few years after that, Apple Daily.
And when he started it, everybody made fun of him because he's, you know, this fifth grade educated child laborer. They did very direct stuff like go back to your factory, you know, you don't belong in this space. They made fun of him until Apple Daily became the largest newspaper in Hong Kong and they couldn't laugh anymore. But more importantly, Apple Daily had a commitment to the truth. It had a commitment to democracy.
And so it was this newspaper that, as you can imagine, pissed off a lot of very powerful people. But it was so important that the people of Hong Kong had this choice in the newsstand every day. And he had protections by an agreement that was signed with the British that said one country, two systems.
Exactly. In 1997, when Hong Kong went from the hands of the British government back to the Chinese, there was one country, two systems, for 50 years. So Hong Kong would still have all its freedoms, would be able to elect its leader, and that would last until 2047.
Obviously, we're in 2025 and those freedoms have been gone for the last five years. Didn't China benefit from this financial engine of Hong Kong? And that is why they pretty much said, do your own thing. We're enjoying this revenue. Yeah, exactly. So it's been tremendously, the sort of current situation in Hong Kong, the downfall since the passing of the National Security Law, has been tremendously hurtful for both the economy of Hong Kong, but also investments in China.
Because Hong Kong used to be a port, it used to be a financial centre where you were protected by a legal system, you had the rule of law, and you could go live in Hong Kong and invest through Hong Kong to China. Sebastian Lai is our guest. His dad's being held in solitary confinement.
A worldwide respected businessman with contacts all throughout the West, especially throughout America. We have not seen him in five years. How hard has that been on you and your family and your brothers? In some sense, the holiday season just passed and you think to yourself, actually, my father making this decision, inadvertently he decided not to spend that time with us. He's 77, he should be enjoying the rest of his life with his grandchildren, taking them to school, going for dinners, meeting his friends and whatnot. But he decided to stay in Hong Kong and defend his people, defend his journalists. I think in my father's story, you have the story of a man who fell in love with freedom, who really fell in love with freedom. And if you think of a 12-year-old refugee, I mean, isn't this the best possible thing that could have happened? A man falls in love with freedom, becomes incredibly successful, and thinks to himself, actually, it doesn't really matter how much money I have, I need to protect these freedoms.
And then campaigns for democracy for the next 20 odd years. And when push comes to shove, when his people needed him, when people were coming after his people, he stayed and defended them. I mean, it's a tremendous story. So even though, unfortunately, we're not going to get the time back, right, and he's not with us at the moment, he's still fighting and I'm tremendously proud that he's my father. Of course.
I can understand that, too. You've been unable to talk to him. Somehow you get information that his health is suffering.
If you're in the prime of your life, it would be suffering. So do you think he regrets it? Did he anticipate this type of terrible prison condition? So I think he always knew that it was a huge possibility of him getting arrested.
He stayed in Hong Kong knowing that that was definitely something that was going to happen. Recently, his national security law trial has been ongoing. He's been on the stand. You get a chance to see him.
So I can't go back to Hong Kong. Is he televised? So it's not televised, but it's open court. So people can go in and so you hear about his conditions.
He's a lot skinnier. And it's a horrible scene. You can imagine a 77-year-old on the stand, these three national security law judges just shouting at him. Is that the system?
They shout at you? So that is not the usual system. That is not the usual system in a place that claims to have rule of law.
But that is currently what Hong Kong is now. Three national security law judges, no jury, allegations. No lawyer? So he does get a Hong Kong defense team, but allegations of tortured witnesses. So it's a complete and utter show trial and has lasted more than a year now. And my father, obviously, his health has gone much worse given what's happened to him. But it's this tremendously emotional moment where you see that even though all of that, he's gone through all of that, he still holds true to his beliefs. He's still strong, mentally and strong of faith. And he's still fighting.
And it's incredible. Do you think Trump, does President Trump know him? So we've been incredibly grateful that the president mentioned that 100 percent he will free my father. He mentioned it in a radio show with Hugh Hewitt. And it's given our family a lot of hope because at this point it is about freeing him, but it's about saving his life.
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Yeah, yeah. So, unfortunately he hasn't had the pleasure and the honor to meet President Trump. But they know of each other. Well, my father has always been incredibly supportive of the President. And I believe that the President knows of my father. And we know there's going to be a meeting in April between it looks like President Xi and President Trump. So, that could be the first one. I know it doesn't work on your behalf to say anything negative about President Xi.
I get it. But in the big picture, he's been so much worse and so much more oppressive than people could imagine. I mean, people really equate him with Mao. So, I think my father's case is a perfect opportunity of where it would be the easiest thing for them to just put him on a plane. It would take them three hours. Put him on a plane and send him back to London, to the United States. And just be done with his problem.
And if you can't even do that, then that tells you a lot about the people. Has your brother, has your dad had organized support? So, we've been incredibly grateful by all the support that we've been getting. So, the United States was the first state to call for my father's release. Followed by, then, the European Union, Canada, Parliament and the Senate, passing a unanimous consent motion. Australia recently called for his release.
The United Kingdom called for his release. So, we've been getting a lot of support. And by Catholics around the world, he is Catholic. His faith is a guiding light in his life.
It's also one of the reasons why he is still so strong. That he's been in those horrible conditions in the last four years. Sebastian Lai is here. His dad is imprisoned in Hong Kong, refusing to sell his newspaper. And I'm sure they're taking his wealth, right? They've taken everything in Hong Kong. Apple Daily used to be a listed company and they've torpedoed it. I mean, worse yet, they've arrested some of my father's colleagues.
And, yeah, frozen everything. And what do you want people to know? I want people to know about my father's story, about this man who has given everything he has for freedom and in the defense of his people. And, you know, it's a story of, obviously, of courage, of bravery, but also one of hope.
And, you know, I hope they do what they can to help my father, but also, you know, if they are religious, please pray for my father. And how hard has it been on you? You know, it's one of those things where I worry every single night whether he's going to make it through the next day.
But in the end day, it is hard, but I'm also inspired by his courage. Mom still alive? Yes, yes, my mother still is. How is she handling it? So, you know, she decided to stay in Hong Kong and be there with my father.
Is she experiencing any type of surveillance? So, fortunately, they have not arrested my mother and, you know, it's this incredibly brave woman who is there for my father every time. And, you know, it's a beautiful story. If people want to help, what do they do? So, they could go on to support jimmyly.com to follow what's currently happening.
They could write to their congressman and speak out, just tell my father's story. It's such a beautiful story. It is, and it's L-A-I, jimmyly.com. Yeah, exactly, yeah. Great. Sebastian, great to meet you.
Sorry you're going through this, but I get the sense with all the respect your dad has garnered with these powerful people around the world throughout his entire life, with his self-made story and being a great person, that there's going to be enough pressure that maybe I think that he'll get his freedom. I hope so. All right. Thanks, Sebastian.
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